THERMONUCLEAR: CDC finally admits that the Pandemic was indeed a Hoax

What exactly does 'excess mortality' mean?

Death numbers SHOULD be going up at this time, with a 78 year average life expectancy and considering the world wide crash and then the huge boom in the 40's.

Omg, what a brilliant point!!! The demographics alone would have given us higher deaths this year with an expectation of it rising over the next three or four years based solely on the fact that those born at the height of the pist-war boom (1946-1952) are now reaching the statistical probability of death.

Freaking brilliant! We would see a natural jump right now if only due to this fact of demographics! If this is fraud they timed it perfectly to obfuscate this demographic reality.

Thank you for adding a new dimension to this for me.

Sheesh ... it is a REAL virus, get over it people.

For most people under 50 it is a Nothing Burger (with the early variations at least), BUT, for people over 70 or people with co-morbidities such as OVERWEIGHT (biggest), Diabetes, or other chronic conditions it can be a killer because of it's A) lung attacking function and B) blood thickening dynamic (because that then causes other organ failures), and the triggering of the body's response mechanisms.

Like any other virus people tend to catch it from other people. No medical science hocus pocus or secret there. Distancing DOES help slow it's spread. Masks do help slow it's spread (particularly if an infected person is the one wearing the mask), and avoiding large crowds helps slow it's spread. In addition making sure you have adequate "nutrition", ie: eating balanced meals and are taking the general basket of vitamins recommended here, helps to build up your own body's immune system (imo).

I know two people who have died from it and several other who caught it. For most of those who caught it they had light cases and it was no worse than the regular flu, but I also know two people who ended up being ventilated and another 4 who ended up in the hospital.

I myself have too many questions about the mRNA vaccines but I am in the process of getting vaccinated since I am in a dual risk group (both age and overweight) but NOT with one of the mRNA vaccines.

STOP ignoring reality!! Covid Virus IS REAL and it can be DEADLY if you end up being older or one of the "unlucky" ones.

Covid Virus IS REAL and it can be DEADLY if you end up being older or one of the "unlucky" ones.

Again: Your "upper bound threshold for excess deaths" is a fixed curve which does not consider the long time dynamics.

And again the long-term graph:
[link to www.macrotrends.net (secure)]

You said before this data would not include covid deaths in 2020, but this makes not much difference.

The CDC provides only PROVISIONAL data from 2020:
[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]
"In 2020, approximately 3,358,814 deaths† occurred in the United States."
"The COVID-19 pandemic caused approximately 375,000 deaths in the United States during 2020."

That means even if we belive their forged numbers then covid raises the numbers only by 10%. Now set the 2020 macrotrends point 10% higher. Does this change anything into a pandemic?

I know people that work in hospitals (two daughters and more). They have seen people labeled as covid positive and put on respirators. THIS IS A DEATH SENTENCE. One of my kids works with kids in the hospital and has had parents declared covid put on a respirator, the kid is positive for covid. When the parent dies, the kid says goodbye over a tablet/zoom. My daughter believes the Drs. and wants to believe the medical professionals/hospitals would not be doing this purposefully. When ones beliefs are challenged we all want to believe what is right, and it is very difficult to believe that medical professionals are killing us. The whole hospital is like this. Overcoming the thought that they are being lied to and killing people is very difficult to say the least. Waking up means you have to admit to participating in some really bad stuff; very dark. They will wake up in due time, and how many will then leave the medical field, commit suicide when they find out they were responsible for all of these deaths, or just be depressed and ill functioning.
To be truthful, there is a virus. It does make people sick. Some do die. The tests are a lie. The numbers are a lie. This virus does have neurological affects and could leave you with lasting damage. It is not what we have been told. We have been played. It is time to stop being played and afraid and step up as an informed citizen and a fighter for this country.

That's exactly what "The Flu" does since centuries.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Get over it. They fooled you by telling you the flu would be a new disease called "covid".

Omg, what a brilliant point!!! The demographics alone would have given us higher deaths this year with an expectation of it rising over the next three or four years based solely on the fact that those born at the height of the pist-war boom (1946-1952) are now reaching the statistical probability of death.

Freaking brilliant! We would see a natural jump right now if only due to this fact of demographics! If this is fraud they timed it perfectly to obfuscate this demographic reality.

Thank you for adding a new dimension to this for me.

Sheesh ... it is a REAL virus, get over it people.

For most people under 50 it is a Nothing Burger (with the early variations at least), BUT, for people over 70 or people with co-morbidities such as OVERWEIGHT (biggest), Diabetes, or other chronic conditions it can be a killer because of it's A) lung attacking function and B) blood thickening dynamic (because that then causes other organ failures), and the triggering of the body's response mechanisms.

Like any other virus people tend to catch it from other people. No medical science hocus pocus or secret there. Distancing DOES help slow it's spread. Masks do help slow it's spread (particularly if an infected person is the one wearing the mask), and avoiding large crowds helps slow it's spread. In addition making sure you have adequate "nutrition", ie: eating balanced meals and are taking the general basket of vitamins recommended here, helps to build up your own body's immune system (imo).

I know two people who have died from it and several other who caught it. For most of those who caught it they had light cases and it was no worse than the regular flu, but I also know two people who ended up being ventilated and another 4 who ended up in the hospital.

I myself have too many questions about the mRNA vaccines but I am in the process of getting vaccinated since I am in a dual risk group (both age and overweight) but NOT with one of the mRNA vaccines.

STOP ignoring reality!! Covid Virus IS REAL and it can be DEADLY if you end up being older or one of the "unlucky" ones.

Yes, suddenly THIS YEAR (not last year) and timed perfectly with the COVID waves.

What a coincidence, they planned it perfectly, didn't they?

Clueless. Total idiot if you believe what you are trying to imply
Covid got in to where I work n nearly half of the staff had symptoms and two people died.

Yes, suddenly THIS YEAR (not last year) and timed perfectly with the COVID waves.

What a coincidence, they planned it perfectly, didn't they?

Yes, suddenly THIS YEAR (not last year) and timed perfectly with the COVID waves.

What a coincidence, they planned it perfectly, didn't they?

It is completely irrelevant

Check total deaths in 2020 and compare to average of the last 10 years. As you yourself noticed, it's some 500.000 over average.

50 years ago doesn't matter, because mortality has been going down due to advances in science.

Mortality from 1978 is irrelevant. You could also say that mortality was much higher in 1900, when there was no antibitics, which would also be true, but it's completely irrelevant to the current pandemic. Only last 10 years are relevant.

The massive increase in rates of birth happened with a jump in births one year: 1946. This trend happened for a few years.

There is no reason to think the number of deaths would statistically result in a corresponding jump in deaths decades later.

It would not account for the total 17 percent increase, but might account for enough percentage points that it -- combined with this year's skyrocketing suicides and criminal behavior in nursing homes -- are huge explanatory factors that would bring that 17 percent down enough that it isn't so anomalous.

Does not mean Covid "isn't real" but could indicate that classification of it as a pandemic, and shutting down an entire economy, was a political scam.

Bye

I tell you what's relecant: A comparison with the Spanish Flu
[link to www.healthaffairs.org (secure)]

An increasing from 1800 %(!!!) from Sep 1918 to Okt 1918!
From 10,373 to 180,787 in ONE MONTH!!!

That's a real pandemic! And you cry because of 10%? Really?

OK, there is really no point in talking to you.

You either:

- didn't bother to check the link
or
- don't understand maths and statistics at the most basic level

None of what you say makes sense, as the deaths match the pandemic not only year by year but WEEK BY WEEK.

If you believe some more births in 1946 could result in such a sudden increase in deaths in synchronicity with COVID infections on a weekly basis, then our discussion doesn't make sense.

Or you just didn't even bother to look at the graph and are spewing nonsense.

Either way

Bye

Actually, you can't read. I suggested this as ONE mitigating factor that could account for a statistically relevant addition to already existing real numbers. You are pathetic in your rudeness.

Yes, I do care. The fact that back in the day people had it worse is not an argument

I don’t see how any person can look at what’s happening in India right this very minute and not think that COVID is a real problem.

Do leftists gin up the nature of the threat? Of course they do. Do right-wingers downplay the nature of the threat? Of course they do.

It’s a shame everything about this has become as politicized as it is. When you look at COVID realistically, you see a very real disease that has a mortality rate probably the same as or even less than the season flu, but which is considerably more contagious.

The extremist bullshit interpretations of it on EACH SIDE are starting to get real fucking old. Quit participating in it.

No, it's statistically completely irrelevant.

If you bothered to check the links you would know that.

I'm not rude, I'm just cutting through stupidity.

I wonder if the ppl who deny it realize they're doing Chinese commie propaganda for FREE. Chicoms would LOVE for COVID to disappear. It's a stain on their reputation. China still claims only 4,000 died of it, blatant lie. China pays their "50 cent army" to deny and downplay COVID, yet some Americans do the shit for free.

At least get paid for it, ppl!

People are seeking Truth period.