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Headlines articles dated September 2020: 'Scientists working on vaccines that spread like a disease'

 
Tess.  (OP)

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I've been thinking, God forbid I have an accident and need a blood transfusion.


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Population control at its finest. Enough sheepLe out there would take it to reduce the pop by 40%. So,sad how gullible people are. We must keep teaching them.
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Population control at its finest. Enough sheepLe out there would take it to reduce the pop by 40%. So,sad how gullible people are. We must keep teaching them.
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Not just people. Animals too. The scientists said it could jump species.

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Self‐disseminating wild‐life reservoir vaccines
Self‐disseminating vaccines, which aim to immunologically contain emerging viruses within their non‐human reservoir hosts, offer an alternative to the conventional vaccine approach. They are designed to exploit the ability of replicating virus‐based vectors to spread through animal host populations, so avoiding the need for direct inoculation of every animal. In this way, vaccination of a limited number of initiator animals is used for the introduction of the vaccine into a target population. The vaccine is engineered to express target antigens from the emerging pathogen of interest, so its transmission from vaccinated to non‐vaccinated animals will result in the co‐ordinated spread of specific immunity for the emerging pathogen throughout the targeted animal population.
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"The idea, essentially, is to vaccinate a small proportion of a population through direct inoculation. These so-called founders will then passively spread the vaccine to other animals they encounter either by touch, sex, nursing, or breathing the same air. Gradually, these interactions could build up population-level immunity...

Once released, scientists will no longer be in control of the virus. It could mutate, as viruses naturally do. It may jump species. It will cross borders. There will be unexpected outcomes and unintended consequences. There always are..."


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Yes, it's called shedding.
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So if you do not consent to this treatment, can the Pharma companies be held liable?
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NO you sign a wavier before you take a shot that they aren't held responsible for any harm its in the fine print. But no one reads oh well.
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no evidence
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Maybe THAT is what COVID19 IS?

A Vax gone wrong?
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You read too much garbage tabloid rags, buddy! Don't believe the fakenews, yo!

It's like this: off the shelf medication at the local pharmacy or grocery store.. let's say, Claratin for allergy relieve. This shit comes with just as much risk as the current covid vaccines, in terms of possible side effects that will effect 1 out of a million people. Woopedidoo! You people are freaking out over fakenews, as usual!
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STFU and go get vaxxed. You can have mine too.
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So if you do not consent to this treatment, can the Pharma companies be held liable?
 Quoting: KRAKEN N3m3s1s


No
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In other words...

they are working on a damaging disease or 'virus' that will spread better (aka FASTER) than the old-fashioned conventional speed of spread.

Because mad ... 'scientists' ... care ... about ... you ....???

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Maybe THAT is what COVID19 IS?

A Vax gone wrong?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72255371


no. Covid 19 is not a vax or a disease. It is the name of a final game of testing who is sheep and who is HUman. a sorting. It is the name of the PERFECT storm of which Q team spoke.

the actual REAL test... in terms on that strip they stuff up your nose.. is to detect gamma ray damage.
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Re: Headlines articles dated September 2020: 'Scientists working on vaccines that spread like a disease'
Has anyone found information published on how long the estimated shedding period is for the Moderna vaccine?
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Editorial/Opinion/Satire:

Has anyone found information published on how long the estimated shedding period is for the Moderna vaccine?
 Quoting: SAM Watcher


Moderna isn't one of those gene therapy vaccines that would contain a live virus readily able to shed, and it has been claimed by the CDC that spike protein or RNA from the vaccine doesn't "shed" *significantly*, although coming from them that's not much comfort.

I'd worry more about being around someone who had any of the adenovirus vector vaccines.

RNA vaccines
Pfizer
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GoTimeItIs
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Concern 1: Individuals with active endogenous or exogenous retroviruses may integrate spike protein mRNA into the genome as DNA if inhaled. Since everyone has endogenous retroviruses, the spike protein mRNA may be effectively self-spreading, without an additional live virus.

Concern 2: Replication deficient adenovirus spike protein DNA plasmid gene therapy vaccines like AstraZeneca and Johnson and Johnson may become self-spreading under the circumstance that they are rescued by coinfection recombination with wild-type adenovirus in adenovirus vaccine recipient. 30% of obese have wild-type adenovirus infection, 11% of non-obese have wild-type adenovirus infection. It is recognized in literature that replication deficient adenovirus gene therapy recipients must be screened for wild type adenovirus infection before receiving adenovirus gene therapy and be quarantined during the transfection process to prevent serious side effects.

It looks like this thread contributed to some impact in some news circles. Unfortunately these news sources in attempting to debunk the concern do not address the above explicit concerns and some utilize logical fallacy, ad hominem and appeal to authority for instance, to sway the reader against the source rather than address salient points presented as honest academics would.

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"Transmission would also require the vaccine to be live – and to be able to replicate and infect its host. This is not possible. None of the COVID-19 vaccines have this capability."



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Brazil Rejects the Gamaleya Vaccine
Russian Sputnik adenovirus gene therapy released into the wild!

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But the bigger news was that Anvisa, the Brazilian drug agency, said that every single lot of the Ad5 Gamaleya shot that they have data on appears to still have replication-competent adenovirus in it.



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Let me reiterate, a reputable state level health agency of Brazil basically says that they received replication competent live adenovirus gene therapy "self-spreading vaccine" in ALL the lots they received of the Sputnik vaccine, exactly the same brand being distributed widely in Mexico, from where the majority of the migrants are flowing into the USA. Just want to point out that the speculation posited by the OP's link has been confirmed by the above link from the American Association for the Advancement of Science. We indeed do have self-spreading vaccine being distributed worldwide. This link from AAAS commenting on Brazil's health agency, goes against all the conciliatory fact-checking articles denying that any of the vaccines are self-spreading. If just one of the COVID shots is self-spreading, and it's distributed to a population, then we may have a worldwide gene plague on our hands from an out of control adenovirus gene therapy on the loose!
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Was just playing Portal 2 and realized one of the A.I characters may be the answer to combat the spread... P-bodies or processing bodies, which relates to o mrna decay! Good post Tess,folks need to be become acutely aware of this
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Maybe THAT is what COVID19 IS?

A Vax gone wrong?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72255371


no. Covid 19 is not a vax or a disease. It is the name of a final game of testing who is sheep and who is HUman. a sorting. It is the name of the PERFECT storm of which Q team spoke.

the actual REAL test... in terms on that strip they stuff up your nose.. is to detect gamma ray damage.
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Do yourself a favour Candace, go look up Toxoplasmosis and get it fixed.

Then you won't be a crazy cat lady here anymore.
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This is the plan. Dated 1981:


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So if you do not consent to this treatment, can the Pharma companies be held liable?
 Quoting: KRAKEN N3m3s1s


You mean can pharma be held liable if we non Vaxers get the vaccine variant anyway?

That’s an interesting question. I’m sure GLP has lawyers present?
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How would one prove this? Does the vaccines show in some sort of test???
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