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Involuntary Euthanasia.. Are you @! kidding me!?

 
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Palliative care

teams are skilled at these conversations and will do their best to support colleagues in doing so, but there will not be enough capacity for palliative care teams to undertake all conversations themselves.

See Appendix 2 for ‘three talk’ model for shared decision making.

1. Team talk

reinforce partnership For example, ‘You have coronavirus infection that has severely affected your breathing. We need
to decide on the next steps’

2. Option talk

Check prior knowledge, then outline options along with what is known of the pros and cons of the
options, then check understanding

3. Decision talk

Further establish that a decision needs to be made, reinforce empathy and partnership, check for information gaps

The decision

If possible, defer closure and give time for discussion with relatives, carers, advocates.

If not possible, ‘What thoughts do you have about the best way forward?’

If low confidence/high anxiety, empathy

‘This is so difficult, but I am here…’ What else can I do/tell you to help us come to the right decision?


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How sad for us...
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Don't trust hospitals.

Don't trust the police.

Don't trust politicians.

Don't trust the government.

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I'm not sure i'd let y'all into my basement either.

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Death panels
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Sorry... I need a better source than a photograph from some rando's twitter feed.
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Sorry... I need a better source than a photograph from some rando's twitter feed.
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This is the way triage is done in natural disasters and during war time.

The declaration of "state of emergency" releases the participants from liability.
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Jeffery Dahmer involuntarily euthanized a bunch of people.
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This is a perfect example of what they are doing. It’s no different than the “Night Stalker” in the 1980’s or Ted Bundy .., All “Involuntarily Euthanized!”
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Fuck it, when my time comes, I would want to be on as much morphine and midazolam as possible. Painless peaceful death. Blissful even.

It’s fucked up that they’re coercing sick people into this though. I have no problem with dying at any time, but most people very much do.

Edit: the food deprivation is just sick. A high enough dose of opiates and benzos will do the trick just fine.

Last Edited by Gabriel~ on 05/03/2021 12:34 PM
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Jeffery Dahmer involuntarily euthanized a bunch of people.
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>>>>><<<<<
This is a perfect example of what they are doing. It’s no different than the “Night Stalker” in the 1980’s or Ted Bundy .., All “Involuntarily Euthanized!”
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Involuntarily euthanized others against their will !!
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death by being deprived of food and water... wtf
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no need for that.

that's what the vaccines are for.

except they all consented.

so there's that.

meaning there's no 'i didn't know clause'

ignorance of the law is not a good defense to begin with.

but when you sign up for it, you've signed a pact with the devil.

and there's no way out of that contract

sad but true
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This is not that. They will burn for this.
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Fuck it, when my time comes, I would want to be on as much morphine and midazolam as possible. Painless peaceful death. Blissful even.

It’s fucked up that they’re coercing sick people into this though. I have no problem with dying at any time, but most people very much do.
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Murder is murder ! It doesn’t matter if you give it fancy soft words. Nobody has a right to cut your life short for any reason! We are living at a time where “appalling” has become the norm.
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Doctors have been murdering babies in the womb now for decades. Does this really surprise anyone about euthanasia?
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I think there uses to be another word for that.
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Murder

That's the word you're looking for
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Fuck it, when my time comes, I would want to be on as much morphine and midazolam as possible. Painless peaceful death. Blissful even.

It’s fucked up that they’re coercing sick people into this though. I have no problem with dying at any time, but most people very much do.
 Quoting: Gabriel~


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Murder is murder ! It doesn’t matter if you give it fancy soft words. Nobody has a right to cut your life short for any reason! We are living at a time where “appalling” has become the norm.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74989176

Agreed.

Truly voluntary euthanasia = mercy
Involuntary euthanasia = murder
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I think there uses to be another word for that.
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murder
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That's just murder with a flowery name.
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Huh... At least they are being honest about they are doing, will continue to do, and what they are willing to do to accomplish their idea(s) of a "better tomorrow" for us all.
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Fuck it, when my time comes, I would want to be on as much morphine and midazolam as possible. Painless peaceful death. Blissful even.

It’s fucked up that they’re coercing sick people into this though. I have no problem with dying at any time, but most people very much do.
 Quoting: Gabriel~


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Murder is murder ! It doesn’t matter if you give it fancy soft words. Nobody has a right to cut your life short for any reason! We are living at a time where “appalling” has become the norm.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74989176

Agreed.

Truly voluntary euthanasia = mercy
Involuntary euthanasia = murder
 Quoting: Gabriel~


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Original source?
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Pharmacological measures: end of life (last days / hours)

Use a combination of levomepromazine and midazolam in a syringe driver

Levomepromazine (helpful for delirium)

• start 25mg SC stat and q1h prn (12.5mg in the elderly)
• if necessary, titrate dose according to response
• maintain with 50-200mg / 24h CSCI
• alternatively, smaller doses given as an SC bolus at bedtime, bd and prn

Midazolam (helpful for anxiety)

• start with 2.5-5mg SC/IV stat and q1h prn
• if necessary, increase progressively to 10mg SC/IV q1h prn
• maintain with 10-60mg / 24h CSCI

If the above is ineffective, seek specialist palliative care
advice


• in the last days of life

o morphine 2.5-5mg SC prn
o midazolam 2.5mg SC prn
o consider morphine 10mg and or midazolam 10mg
over 24 hours via syringe driver, increasing to morphine 30mg/midazolam 60mg





For those who are dying as a consequence of coronavirus and/or who do not wish to have active or invasive treatments, the switch in focus to high quality, compassionate, palliative care at the end of their life is equally important.

Treatment escalation planning

In the context of the coronavirus pandemic, decisions about further treatment escalation or shifting the focus to palliative care will need to take place rapidly. It may not be possible to have joint discussions involving the patient, those close to them and the clinicians because:

• the patient may have become ill and deteriorated very quickly, so they may not be able to fully participate in the decision-making.

the patient’s family and those closest to them may not be able to be present because of hospital infection control procedures, or they may be in self-isolation or looking after
family members who are ill.

Conversations with the patient’s family may well have to take place remotely. They are likely to be anxious and shocked by what has happened. These are not easy conversations to have but it is important that honest and timely conversations do take place.

Senior clinicians should role model these conversations and support their teams to do so. Palliative care teams are skilled at these conversations and will do their best to support colleagues in doing so, but there will not be enough capacity for palliative care teams to undertake all conversations themselves.
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Holy crap.

And they won't just give people ivermectin/HCQ and zinc.

I bet the same thing applied everywhere. Freaking horror.
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Holy crap.

And they won't just give people ivermectin/HCQ and zinc.

I bet the same thing applied everywhere. Freaking horror.
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Soylent Green coming soon.


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TPTB don't want anyone over 60 years old.
By then you are a net drain on society, so off to the Soylent Plant with you!!!
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I think there uses to be another word for that.
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murder
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This already goes on all the time. My brother murdered my mother via neglect at the end and he and the nurse gave a little wink and a bit to much medication. Gone in less than 24 hours. It's a daily occurrence everywhere.
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My "respected" medical professional sister killed my dad and my sister this way in 2010 and 2009.

She works with WHO as well!
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and Doctors are the first ones who are guilty of this genocide

they're breaking the Hippocratic Oath

they fucking plainly state they're starving and not giving water to patients so of course majority will die!!!!!

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Not only that, I have a copy of my Grandmother's death certificate (for some reason my aunt gave it to me)--cause of death

Dehydration! In 1969.
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If they did not kill old people they would not have had the number of deaths required to lock down the healthy population.
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Democrat states seem to have their game plan in order





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