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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80278465 United Kingdom 05/03/2021 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | teams are skilled at these conversations and will do their best to support colleagues in doing so, but there will not be enough capacity for palliative care teams to undertake all conversations themselves. See Appendix 2 for ‘three talk’ model for shared decision making. 1. Team talk reinforce partnership For example, ‘You have coronavirus infection that has severely affected your breathing. We need to decide on the next steps’ 2. Option talk Check prior knowledge, then outline options along with what is known of the pros and cons of the options, then check understanding 3. Decision talk Further establish that a decision needs to be made, reinforce empathy and partnership, check for information gaps The decision If possible, defer closure and give time for discussion with relatives, carers, advocates. If not possible, ‘What thoughts do you have about the best way forward?’ If low confidence/high anxiety, empathy ‘This is so difficult, but I am here…’ What else can I do/tell you to help us come to the right decision? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76433964 United States 05/03/2021 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't trust hospitals. Quoting: Bar20 Don't trust the police. Don't trust politicians. Don't trust the government. TPTB are really doing a great job convincing all of us to hunker down in our basements with a loaded shotgun pointed at the stairs... But you trust all conspiracy theorists. I'm not sure i'd let y'all into my basement either. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80278465 United Kingdom 05/03/2021 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry... I need a better source than a photograph from some rando's twitter feed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76860697 [link to www.nice.org.uk (secure)] |
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Gabriel~
User ID: 80285400 Canada 05/03/2021 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck it, when my time comes, I would want to be on as much morphine and midazolam as possible. Painless peaceful death. Blissful even. It’s fucked up that they’re coercing sick people into this though. I have no problem with dying at any time, but most people very much do. Edit: the food deprivation is just sick. A high enough dose of opiates and benzos will do the trick just fine. Last Edited by Gabriel~ on 05/03/2021 12:34 PM I LOVE GOD AND CHRIST! <3 We’re all in the same game; just different levels Dealing with the same hell; just different devils |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80307054 United States 05/03/2021 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no need for that. Quoting: Grove Street that's what the vaccines are for. except they all consented. so there's that. meaning there's no 'i didn't know clause' ignorance of the law is not a good defense to begin with. but when you sign up for it, you've signed a pact with the devil. and there's no way out of that contract sad but true Good. The demons will reap what they sow. No one is innocent of this. Those medical personnal had a duty to first do no harm. This is not that. They will burn for this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74989176 United States 05/03/2021 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck it, when my time comes, I would want to be on as much morphine and midazolam as possible. Painless peaceful death. Blissful even. Quoting: Gabriel~ It’s fucked up that they’re coercing sick people into this though. I have no problem with dying at any time, but most people very much do. ~~~~~ Murder is murder ! It doesn’t matter if you give it fancy soft words. Nobody has a right to cut your life short for any reason! We are living at a time where “appalling” has become the norm. |
GLP Effect
User ID: 79302103 United States 05/03/2021 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doctors have been murdering babies in the womb now for decades. Does this really surprise anyone about euthanasia? Pray this prayer to blind Satan: [link to flameoflove.us (secure)] |
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Gabriel~
User ID: 80285400 Canada 05/03/2021 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck it, when my time comes, I would want to be on as much morphine and midazolam as possible. Painless peaceful death. Blissful even. Quoting: Gabriel~ It’s fucked up that they’re coercing sick people into this though. I have no problem with dying at any time, but most people very much do. ~~~~~ Murder is murder ! It doesn’t matter if you give it fancy soft words. Nobody has a right to cut your life short for any reason! We are living at a time where “appalling” has become the norm. Agreed. Truly voluntary euthanasia = mercy Involuntary euthanasia = murder I LOVE GOD AND CHRIST! <3 We’re all in the same game; just different levels Dealing with the same hell; just different devils |
Housedad
GOD User ID: 79584224 United States 05/03/2021 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | murder There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT! -Men in Black |
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darkwolf007
User ID: 18898354 United States 05/03/2021 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Huh... At least they are being honest about they are doing, will continue to do, and what they are willing to do to accomplish their idea(s) of a "better tomorrow" for us all. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
darkwolf007
User ID: 18898354 United States 05/03/2021 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuck it, when my time comes, I would want to be on as much morphine and midazolam as possible. Painless peaceful death. Blissful even. Quoting: Gabriel~ It’s fucked up that they’re coercing sick people into this though. I have no problem with dying at any time, but most people very much do. ~~~~~ Murder is murder ! It doesn’t matter if you give it fancy soft words. Nobody has a right to cut your life short for any reason! We are living at a time where “appalling” has become the norm. Agreed. Truly voluntary euthanasia = mercy Involuntary euthanasia = murder Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
Fluffy Pancakes
User ID: 33028046 United States 05/03/2021 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.nice.org.uk (secure)] Pharmacological measures: end of life (last days / hours) Use a combination of levomepromazine and midazolam in a syringe driver Levomepromazine (helpful for delirium) • start 25mg SC stat and q1h prn (12.5mg in the elderly) • if necessary, titrate dose according to response • maintain with 50-200mg / 24h CSCI • alternatively, smaller doses given as an SC bolus at bedtime, bd and prn Midazolam (helpful for anxiety) • start with 2.5-5mg SC/IV stat and q1h prn • if necessary, increase progressively to 10mg SC/IV q1h prn • maintain with 10-60mg / 24h CSCI If the above is ineffective, seek specialist palliative care advice • in the last days of life o morphine 2.5-5mg SC prn o midazolam 2.5mg SC prn o consider morphine 10mg and or midazolam 10mg over 24 hours via syringe driver, increasing to morphine 30mg/midazolam 60mg For those who are dying as a consequence of coronavirus and/or who do not wish to have active or invasive treatments, the switch in focus to high quality, compassionate, palliative care at the end of their life is equally important. Treatment escalation planning In the context of the coronavirus pandemic, decisions about further treatment escalation or shifting the focus to palliative care will need to take place rapidly. It may not be possible to have joint discussions involving the patient, those close to them and the clinicians because: • the patient may have become ill and deteriorated very quickly, so they may not be able to fully participate in the decision-making. • the patient’s family and those closest to them may not be able to be present because of hospital infection control procedures, or they may be in self-isolation or looking after family members who are ill. Conversations with the patient’s family may well have to take place remotely. They are likely to be anxious and shocked by what has happened. These are not easy conversations to have but it is important that honest and timely conversations do take place. Senior clinicians should role model these conversations and support their teams to do so. Palliative care teams are skilled at these conversations and will do their best to support colleagues in doing so, but there will not be enough capacity for palliative care teams to undertake all conversations themselves. Holy crap. And they won't just give people ivermectin/HCQ and zinc. I bet the same thing applied everywhere. Freaking horror. Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80278465 United Kingdom 05/03/2021 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holy crap. Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes And they won't just give people ivermectin/HCQ and zinc. I bet the same thing applied everywhere. Freaking horror. [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] Minister says UK public inquiry into Covid now would be ‘premature’ Reopening the economy is main priority for government, says the business secretary, Kwasi Kwarteng [link to www.pulsetoday.co.uk (secure)] NHS England chief executive to quit post and join the House of Lords |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80249080 United States 05/03/2021 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This already goes on all the time. My brother murdered my mother via neglect at the end and he and the nurse gave a little wink and a bit to much medication. Gone in less than 24 hours. It's a daily occurrence everywhere. My "respected" medical professional sister killed my dad and my sister this way in 2010 and 2009. She works with WHO as well! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80249080 United States 05/03/2021 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and Doctors are the first ones who are guilty of this genocide Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79191964 they're breaking the Hippocratic Oath they fucking plainly state they're starving and not giving water to patients so of course majority will die!!!!! Not only that, I have a copy of my Grandmother's death certificate (for some reason my aunt gave it to me)--cause of death Dehydration! In 1969. |
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