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DeSantis to Sign Bill Banning Social Media ‘Deplatforming,’ ‘Shadow Banning,’ ‘Censoring’

 
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To you that means any opinion not left of center.
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This place is chock full of racist rhetoric. I mean, this thread is on the very next page:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

But go ahead and tell me how it isn't racist, just "realist".
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To you that means any opinion not left of center.
 Quoting: LimaIndiaSierra



This place is chock full of racist rhetoric. I mean, this thread is on the very next page:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

But go ahead and tell me how it isn't racist, just "realist".
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You gave an example of a typical anonymous coward troll bait thread.
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What a waste of time. Jurisdiction issues aside (how tf does Florida plan to enforce this?), this is a massive attack on the first amendment and the personal business of a corporation. You don't need to use facebook, and they don't have to host your racist or nonsensical bullshit.
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Let me guess, your idea of racism only applies to white people...
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Only a racist would be triggered by that. You're always free to run your stupid mouth here.
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Does this apply to GLP as well? Since this site isn't different from social media where they shadow ban certain people, Trinity denies it but it happens here more than most think and it needs to stop.
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There's a lot of auto banning at GLP, but it's mainly a way to generate paid subscriptions.

However, I believe some users have been banned for political reasons.
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The religious fanatics ban anyone who opposes their rhetoric.
The price of liberty and even of common humanity is eternal vigilance.” —Aldous Huxley

For the waywardness of the simple will kill them, and the complacency of fools will destroy them. Proverbs
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Does this apply to GLP as well? Since this site isn't different from social media where they shadow ban certain people, Trinity denies it but it happens here more than most think and it needs to stop.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79761929


There's a lot of auto banning at GLP, but it's mainly a way to generate paid subscriptions.

However, I believe some users have been banned for political reasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75698626


The religious fanatics ban anyone who opposes their rhetoric.
 Quoting: Original Bunnyswanson


I got banned once literally for just writing a timeline of that time Trump edited a weather map to back up his stupid tweet.
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Modern day hero. I hope he has good security. He's the next President if he runs, screw Trump having him as VP.He is an action man, not just talk and he's pragmatic. Of course you can't please everyone and the right wing zealots will always complain he's not far right enough but he's everything you could ask for. Smart, a military lawyer, Ivy league educated , Governor of a successful state, upholds personal freedoms, well spoken and polite when needed. He's their worst nightmare, he would kill in debates, kill...
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To you that means any opinion not left of center.
 Quoting: LimaIndiaSierra



This place is chock full of racist rhetoric. I mean, this thread is on the very next page:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

But go ahead and tell me how it isn't racist, just "realist".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79627370


You gave an example of a typical anonymous coward troll bait thread.
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iamwith
whatever

Don't act like some blue members around here don't do the same thing.
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Modern day hero. I hope he has good security. He's the next President if he runs, screw Trump having him as VP.He is an action man, not just talk and he's pragmatic. Of course you can't please everyone and the right wing zealots will always complain he's not far right enough but he's everything you could ask for. Smart, a military lawyer, Ivy league educated , Governor of a successful state, upholds personal freedoms, well spoken and polite when needed. He's their worst nightmare, he would kill in debates, kill...
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He's going to lose his reelection in 2022. He barely won in 2018 and hasn't done much to gain new support. Laws like this and his anti-protest bill are not popular outside of the far-right bubbles like GLP.
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Had a Facebook account for years. Never used it. It was just there so I could make 1 or 2 comments on news sources. Then my brother hung himself in January, I decided to get the account going and talked about his suicide and my opinions on the George Floyd case, and ... everything was fine. A week or two passed and I bought an Oculus Quest II, my first experience with VR gaming. I was denied being able to create an account, told I was banned or some such rubbish, I thought their site was just messing up.

After buying, I went on Facebook and found out I was, indeed, banned. I never received an email notice of it. I never received a caution for posting anything that violated T&C. Because Oculus is owned by Facebook, they have locked usage of it to a Facebook account. I tried to get my purchase cancelled right away, but they didn't respond before sending it.

They told me I had violated T&C, but no specifics, and that if I wanted a chance in hell of getting it overturned I had to provide a picture of myself for them to even review my case. I don't have pictures of myself, I hate taking them. Tried getting Oculus to assist but they didn't, and eventually I succumbed.

The ban was overturned, but I'm sure I dodged a bullet and got an employee to evaluate who was sympathetic to free speech.

I removed all my posts and am never posting on Facebook again. I'm just keeping it so I can use my Oculus Quest II. Also Facebook can be assured I will never buy an Oculus game through their store if everything I buy can be invalidated if they don't like something I post (which by the way, were only facts found in the Floyd autopsy report).

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It does literally nothing for people previously banned. Its only if youre running for public office.

It's literally just a do nothing show bill.

A certain person was pushing for changes in the bill but it got ignored and he got put on the no fly list.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77679119


It's to protect GOP candidates. This is a good bill since the Democratic Party has made it obvious that Big Tech works on their campaigns for free and when they need negative press suppressed.

The left/right paradigm is dead in many parts where GOP(RINO)/Dem candidates are no different from each other, but in FL, the party lines could not be more distinct. The Florida GOP is still "The Establishment", but they are being made to recognize and codify America First policies from Governor DeSantis. Today's Florida is an example of the government actually working for the people.
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I love my Governor.
I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean.
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Does this apply to GLP as well? Since this site isn't different from social media where they shadow ban certain people, Trinity denies it but it happens here more than most think and it needs to stop.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79761929


I average two bans a day from the butthurt white supremacists running this site. However, my Linux guys don’t give two shits.
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U should not take it personally. Half is automation lol. White supremacist AI? Lol

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This is great, just put your name in as running for office every year and you can never get banned again.
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ROFL ROFL ROFL

This will never happen. Social media is what is controlling everyone, they will be able to continue doing what they are doing since they are in charge.
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WATCH and learn dumbass negative goldbricker
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What a waste of time. Jurisdiction issues aside (how tf does Florida plan to enforce this?), this is a massive attack on the first amendment and the personal business of a corporation. You don't need to use facebook, and they don't have to host your racist or nonsensical bullshit.
 Quoting: RR4lyfe


Part I: 'How does florida plan to enforce'. Derp, the same way States enforce every law. It's a fucking sovereign country with its own independent laws. You choose to do business there? You follow its laws.

Part II. Lol, that's not how 'muh first amendment' works. The corporation can do whatever it pleases until it advertises as OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

When a business is open to the GENERAL PUBLIC. It must allow the GENERAL PUBLIC to use its general services.

That's why Christian stores are forced to bake cakes for FOeGGOTS, if the store is in the cake business.

Because, if a business advertises as OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, then it can't arbitrarily discriminate against the public - unless there is a law on the books allowing said discrimination. (e.g. no shoes, shirt, is covered under decency law).

Now, if you're a PRIVATE CONTRACTOR and your entire business revolves around choosing contracts only for specific people, that's a different story.

Sorry moron, you lose.
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Social media companies would be unable to permanently kick people off their platforms under a tough new Florida law.

The bill, passed by the GOP-dominated state Legislature Thursday and awaiting Gov. Ron DeSantis’ signature, would make it a crime to remove state political candidates from Twitter and Facebook, and would mete out penalties of $250,000 a day for any statewide candidate who is deplatformed.

Removing more local candidates would cost the company $25,000 a day.

The bill also requires tech companies to give users seven days notice that they are at risk of being banned and offer them the opportunity to correct the issue. Suspensions of up to 14 days would still be allowed.

[link to www.breitbart.com (secure)]
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It's not going anywhere. Social media giants have more lawyer cloud than DeCrazy.
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What a waste of time. Jurisdiction issues aside (how tf does Florida plan to enforce this?), this is a massive attack on the first amendment and the personal business of a corporation. You don't need to use facebook, and they don't have to host your racist or nonsensical bullshit.
 Quoting: RR4lyfe


Part I: 'How does florida plan to enforce'. Derp, the same way States enforce every law. It's a fucking sovereign country with its own independent laws. You choose to do business there? You follow its laws.

Part II. Lol, that's not how 'muh first amendment' works. The corporation can do whatever it pleases until it advertises as OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

When a business is open to the GENERAL PUBLIC. It must allow the GENERAL PUBLIC to use its general services.

That's why Christian stores are forced to bake cakes for FOeGGOTS, if the store is in the cake business.

Because, if a business advertises as OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, then it can't arbitrarily discriminate against the public - unless there is a law on the books allowing said discrimination. (e.g. no shoes, shirt, is covered under decency law).

Now, if you're a PRIVATE CONTRACTOR and your entire business revolves around choosing contracts only for specific people, that's a different story.

Sorry moron, you lose.
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So, can we sue GLP for ITS bans?????????????????????? What's good for the goose....
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To you that means any opinion not left of center.
 Quoting: LimaIndiaSierra



This place is chock full of racist rhetoric. I mean, this thread is on the very next page:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

But go ahead and tell me how it isn't racist, just "realist".
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Aw, shaddup.

You know full well that if the observations of that thread had come from a BLM-loving leftist, one who resented white-supremacist women culturally appropriating black guys for themselves and lessening the prospects for black women, you'd pause, look up, look down, look all away around, and then go on your idiotic leftwing ways.
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To you that means any opinion not left of center.
 Quoting: LimaIndiaSierra



This place is chock full of racist rhetoric. I mean, this thread is on the very next page:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

But go ahead and tell me how it isn't racist, just "realist".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79627370


racism is amusing, given the current climate. If it stings your heart, don't fucking read it
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What a waste of time. Jurisdiction issues aside (how tf does Florida plan to enforce this?), this is a massive attack on the first amendment and the personal business of a corporation. You don't need to use facebook, and they don't have to host your racist or nonsensical bullshit.
 Quoting: RR4lyfe


Part I: 'How does florida plan to enforce'. Derp, the same way States enforce every law. It's a fucking sovereign country with its own independent laws. You choose to do business there? You follow its laws.

Part II. Lol, that's not how 'muh first amendment' works. The corporation can do whatever it pleases until it advertises as OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

When a business is open to the GENERAL PUBLIC. It must allow the GENERAL PUBLIC to use its general services.

That's why Christian stores are forced to bake cakes for FOeGGOTS, if the store is in the cake business.

Because, if a business advertises as OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, then it can't arbitrarily discriminate against the public - unless there is a law on the books allowing said discrimination. (e.g. no shoes, shirt, is covered under decency law).

Now, if you're a PRIVATE CONTRACTOR and your entire business revolves around choosing contracts only for specific people, that's a different story.

Sorry moron, you lose.
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So, can we sue GLP for ITS bans?????????????????????? What's good for the goose....
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The law exempts companies making less than 100 million.

Trinity broke ass ain't goin to jail.

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Does this apply to GLP as well? Since this site isn't different from social media where they shadow ban certain people, Trinity denies it but it happens here more than most think and it needs to stop.
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No, it only applies to politicians in Florida.
Shilllikeproductions and }ewbart fooling the useful idiots.

What, you thought they cared about you?

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It does literally nothing for people previously banned. Its only if youre running for public office.

It's literally just a do nothing show bill.

A certain person was pushing for changes in the bill but it got ignored and he got put on the no fly list.
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Somebody that doesn't have his head up his ass.

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Social media companies would be unable to permanently kick people off their platforms under a tough new Florida law.

The bill, passed by the GOP-dominated state Legislature Thursday and awaiting Gov. Ron DeSantis’ signature, would make it a crime to remove state political candidates from Twitter and Facebook, and would mete out penalties of $250,000 a day for any statewide candidate who is deplatformed.

Removing more local candidates would cost the company $25,000 a day.

The bill also requires tech companies to give users seven days notice that they are at risk of being banned and offer them the opportunity to correct the issue. Suspensions of up to 14 days would still be allowed.

[link to www.breitbart.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anon Braveheart


This isn't good enough. It will only affect people who are running for office or in office and limiting their discrimination to only two weeks at a time.

This is another example of 'weak and sniveling response" from the right. Desantis needs to make it binding on all residents of Florida, not just political people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78367566


The game is simple, the so called conservatives throw crumbs at the masses and tell them it's a full dinner.

Trump did it too.
Both sides lie and conservative is bad about selling bread crumbs as dinners.
Just because left wing media lies doesn't mean right wing media tells the truth.

Stops them from banning "people" that is a bold faced in your face lie by omission to make it sound better.

It only stops them from banning people running for office and politicians.

All they doing is saying, we are more important than you and selling you on getting nothing for the normal citizen.
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I... like many of DeSantis' recent moves.
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Well, that ought to be interesting.
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Social media companies would be unable to permanently kick people off their platforms under a tough new Florida law.

The bill, passed by the GOP-dominated state Legislature Thursday and awaiting Gov. Ron DeSantis’ signature, would make it a crime to remove state political candidates from Twitter and Facebook, and would mete out penalties of $250,000 a day for any statewide candidate who is deplatformed.

Removing more local candidates would cost the company $25,000 a day.

The bill also requires tech companies to give users seven days notice that they are at risk of being banned and offer them the opportunity to correct the issue. Suspensions of up to 14 days would still be allowed.

[link to www.breitbart.com (secure)]
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clappa


This has to happen in every state.
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Does this apply to GLP as well? Since this site isn't different from social media where they shadow ban certain people, Trinity denies it but it happens here more than most think and it needs to stop.
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As I see it, GLP is a virtual PRIVATE country club, and includes contractually bound agreement to view the site. GLP is NOT social media such as twatter and zuckbook, so GLP as a private club can ban anyone for any reason or no reason at all, and the users agree to this upon entering the site.

I hope this helps.

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Big government knows best, right? Let's all sit back and let them pass more and more laws and regulations so that the snowflake politicians are protected from being booted off the private company apps and sites they fucking loathe but need to rely on because there's no other place to go where they can say the type shit that gets them booted. These are the same people who are in favor of repealing Section 230.

My fucking head hurts from the retardation.
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Had a Facebook account for years. Never used it. It was just there so I could make 1 or 2 comments on news sources. Then my brother hung himself in January, I decided to get the account going and talked about his suicide and my opinions on the George Floyd case, and ... everything was fine. A week or two passed and I bought an Oculus Quest II, my first experience with VR gaming. I was denied being able to create an account, told I was banned or some such rubbish, I thought their site was just messing up.

After buying, I went on Facebook and found out I was, indeed, banned. I never received an email notice of it. I never received a caution for posting anything that violated T&C. Because Oculus is owned by Facebook, they have locked usage of it to a Facebook account. I tried to get my purchase cancelled right away, but they didn't respond before sending it.

They told me I had violated T&C, but no specifics, and that if I wanted a chance in hell of getting it overturned I had to provide a picture of myself for them to even review my case. I don't have pictures of myself, I hate taking them. Tried getting Oculus to assist but they didn't, and eventually I succumbed.

The ban was overturned, but I'm sure I dodged a bullet and got an employee to evaluate who was sympathetic to free speech.

I removed all my posts and am never posting on Facebook again. I'm just keeping it so I can use my Oculus Quest II. Also Facebook can be assured I will never buy an Oculus game through their store if everything I buy can be invalidated if they don't like something I post (which by the way, were only facts found in the Floyd autopsy report).
 Quoting: GooPile


Another fucking jackass who misunderstands free speech.

You have no right not to be kicked off Facebook for saying something if Facebook doesn't jive with it. The First Amendment (along with all constitutional rights) only protects you against the government.

Facebook is not the government. It is not owned by the government and it is not run by the government. It is a private sector entity.





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