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There Is No Rapture Till The Final End, Sorry But Its The Truth

 
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Jesus said of his return (rapture) that there will be Two men working in a field one goes and the other is left behind. To me this means rapture before the end of tribulations. As born again meet Jesus in the air and unbeliever is left behind.... also the tribulations are when there is awful things happening as God’s Grace has gone from the Earth. Still there will be those who turn to Christ, but they will suffer gravelly
 Quoting: *ApPaL*

These men have less than 1 hour to run and hide in the neatest 'mountain'.

Re:11:12-14:
And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them,
Come up hither.
And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud;
and their enemies beheld them.
And the same hour was there a great earthquake,
and the tenth part of the city fell,
and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand:
and the remnant were affrighted,
and gave glory to the God of heaven.
The second woe is past;
and,
behold,
the third woe cometh quickly.

Re:18:17:
For in one hour so great riches is come to nought.
And every shipmaster,
and all the company in ships,
and sailors,
and as many as trade by sea,
stood afar off,
Re:18:19:
And they cast dust on their heads,
and cried,
weeping and wailing,
saying,
Alas,
alas,
that great city,
wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness!
for in one hour is she made desolate.

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Middle East Christians have faced torture and death .. but what Western Society Christians were concerned.. No Not One... Just like Vietnam.. The Christians were all for the war.. but stayed on contact with none of the Warriors.. during or after.

They are superficial losers.. easily deceived..

All is vanity.. They are hollow men.. There is no substance to any of them..
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So I'm convinced of a pre and post-trib rapture.

1 Thessalonians 4:17
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80217595


Cant be both. There is only one post Tribulation at the last trumpet, before Gods Wrath is unleashed.
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Sorry to burst your bubble Rapture Tards but we all are riding this till the end..

Noah was not saved from the flood, he had to endure it in a boat till the end and if he lost faith during that time than God would have sunk his boat.

Same for all of us we to will have to endure the tribulation to test our faith..

No one on earth today is better then Noah so why would God rapture you up before the Real SHTF but not Noah..

Stop spreading Rapture lies and Rapture dates that always fail you Harold Camping Tards..


stewart1fu
 Quoting: JackReno


Your wrong. It’s biblical that the believers will be taken first. Stop talking about shit you don’t understand.
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Sorry to burst your bubble Rapture Tards but we all are riding this till the end..

Noah was not saved from the flood, he had to endure it in a boat till the end and if he lost faith during that time than God would have sunk his boat.

Same for all of us we to will have to endure the tribulation to test our faith..

No one on earth today is better then Noah so why would God rapture you up before the Real SHTF but not Noah..

Stop spreading Rapture lies and Rapture dates that always fail you Harold Camping Tards..


stewart1fu
 Quoting: JackReno


Your wrong. It’s biblical that the believers will be taken first. Stop talking about shit you don’t understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8498338

I feel sorry for you.

So blind and so little time left.

You are in for a terrible and eternal shock.
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Sorry to burst your bubble Rapture Tards but we all are riding this till the end..

Noah was not saved from the flood, he had to endure it in a boat till the end and if he lost faith during that time than God would have sunk his boat.

Same for all of us we to will have to endure the tribulation to test our faith..

No one on earth today is better then Noah so why would God rapture you up before the Real SHTF but not Noah..

Stop spreading Rapture lies and Rapture dates that always fail you Harold Camping Tards..


stewart1fu
 Quoting: JackReno


Your wrong. It’s biblical that the believers will be taken first. Stop talking about shit you don’t understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8498338


Where in scripture does it say, with out a doubt that the Believers are taken out of the way before Tribulation starts?
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takeheed blackcat For those of you who would like to know more about the Rapture here are some interesting and well written Chick illustrated tracts on this important subject.

kitty WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

kitty HERE HE COMES!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

kitty LETS FLY AWAY!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

kitty THINGS TO COME?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]
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"caught up" is pre-wrath
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Which is 1,000 years from now.
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no 1000 years from now we are well into the millennial reign.. stop the garbage now.. its garbage and now how any thing works.
Blessed are the PEACEMAKERS for We the Peacemakers are Called the Sons of God. As Peacemakers we are incarnate in all cultures and races on the planet and the Planetary Peoples SHALL KNOW PEACE.

KD New begin....
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Noah was saved from the flood, so was his wife, sons and their wives. If they had not they would have perished in the flood as the rest of the world. Genesis thoroughly records this as does Hebrews 11:7 which explicitly states that his family was saved by the ark.

1 Thess 5 starts out with a discussion on the end times. Verse 9 reminds us that the bride of Christ was not appointed unto the wrath of God. The tribulation is the outpouring of the wrath of God onto the heathen world, not the bride.

Lastly, it isn't about being better than Noah, doing good or bad deeds. It is about finding your justification not in the OT law but in the blood of Jesus. Romans 10:9
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True, Noah and his family were spared from the punishment/wrath that GOD took out upon the Earth in the form of a great flood.

Noah and his family were warned as to what was coming, and were given instructions/prepared in order to survive the coming wrath.

the earth was not anywhere as densely populate then as it is now. Since GOD promised never to again destroy Earth by means of water, how would he go about doing the same thing today?

where could all of the Christians and their families that belong to him go? they won't all fit in any building, boat/ark, plane house, etc....

Christians were warned as to what was going to happen in the bible, the Revelation specifically.

Where could GOD send all of these people where they would be sustained with the basics of food, clothing, shelter while simultaneously be protected from the wrath that GOD will pour out upon the Earth during the tribulation period?

the answer is nowhere on Earth....which is why his people are raptured to heaven both the dead and specifically the living.
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"caught up" is pre-wrath
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Which is 1,000 years from now.
 Quoting: iseeyourmind


no 1000 years from now we are well into the millennial reign.. stop the garbage now.. its garbage and now how any thing works.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


The thousand year reign of Jesus, the only begotten son of GOD, doesn't begin until after the tribulation period is over. You keep lying and saying that it started 3 years ago all is one/candace...the garbage as always is coming from YOU. it is YOU who doesn't know how anything works.
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So I'm convinced of a pre and post-trib rapture.

1 Thessalonians 4:17
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80217595


Cant be both. There is only one post Tribulation at the last trumpet, before Gods Wrath is unleashed.
 Quoting: paramedic


sorry but NO> Post Trib is wrong and here is why: If it were true, then who would be left to go into the millennial kingdom to re-populate the Earth?

by the end of the tribulation of the few left on Earth, there will only be 2 groups:

goats---the ones who took the mark and who do not go into the millennial kingdom.

sheep--- those who did not take the mark because they came to the saving knowledge of Jesus.

if the sheep are raptured at the end and the dead in christ resurrected, then who would be left to re-populate Earth for Christ's 1000 year reign?

Nobody.

we know that the resurrected and raptured will no longer procreate:


Matthew 22:30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

that is why post-trib is false.

after the pre-trib rapture, there will be many who although left behind, will come to a saving knowledge of Christ as their saviour.-----those who make it to the end of the trib (sheep) will be the ones who go into the millennial kingdom and will be the ones who begin to re-populate the Earth.
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So I'm convinced of a pre and post-trib rapture.

1 Thessalonians 4:17
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80217595


Cant be both. There is only one post Tribulation at the last trumpet, before Gods Wrath is unleashed.
 Quoting: paramedic


sorry but NO> Post Trib is wrong and here is why: If it were true, then who would be left to go into the millennial kingdom to re-populate the Earth?

by the end of the tribulation of the few left on Earth, there will only be 2 groups:

goats---the ones who took the mark and who do not go into the millennial kingdom.

sheep--- those who did not take the mark because they came to the saving knowledge of Jesus.

if the sheep are raptured at the end and the dead in christ resurrected, then who would be left to re-populate Earth for Christ's 1000 year reign?

Nobody.

we know that the resurrected and raptured will no longer procreate:


Matthew 22:30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.

that is why post-trib is false.

after the pre-trib rapture, there will be many who although left behind, will come to a saving knowledge of Christ as their saviour.-----those who make it to the end of the trib (sheep) will be the ones who go into the millennial kingdom and will be the ones who begin to re-populate the Earth.
 Quoting: Baloney


Read 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 the man of Lawlessness. The people had to be set straight that the rapture nor the anti Christ, nor Jesus had come back yet.
"These things do not happen until the great falling away occurs and the Man of Lawlessness appears"

So therefore no "pre-trib rapture.
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Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you,

not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.

Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,

who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?

And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time.

For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.

And then the lawless one will be revealed
, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.

The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,

and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,

that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.



2Thessalonians 2:1-12
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Jerusalem is already surrounded. Metaphorically. And Divine Intervention is nigh at hand :)
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No, to be surrounded by all the armies of the nations, fully possessed people trying to accomplish Satan's last desperate act of spite to do what he never could, destroy the Lord's people.
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Dual fulfilment is a thing. And we are surrounded far worse than most could fathom.
Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
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Yep
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I know this is THE second page but om Always womdering about this
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So THE last Day is coming. Really? I tjink mot as THE new Christ is to reign for a tjousand Tears.
But this is really just hypothesis. As a ohilosophical judgement of todaus world vs THE visions acquired by seets in black blical Times..
Will THE world end om flames ord was ut a Quick judgement of an apostel vs trie fvt of todaus tech?
Eadmt it Johns testament that told of THE lords Day? It was it someone elses?
I just know its mentipned befpre revelation which is John
Anyway John states 1000 Tears arter this Bring fact as of me.. so..
Om drinking Bert f off
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I medan they cud just havet menar video games Bring THE brutal Day of THE lords.
I know ive hade visions myself
But we Aldo got revelation talking about plagues and disaster, Still THE tjousand Tears through..
Soooo...
I Guess we Sony know for certain.. we Night just end Up having to sitt through rart for a 1000 yrs more Still.
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For a seer in the middle anges it mustavebeen THE beezkneez seeing visions of today. But they hade THE same shrooms i hade last decade.
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I medan they cud just havet menar video games Bring THE brutal Day of THE lords.
I know ive hade visions myself
But we Aldo got revelation talking about plagues and disaster, Still THE tjousand Tears through..
Soooo...
I Guess we Sony know for certain.. we Night just end Up having to sitt through rart for a 1000 yrs more Still.
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It'll get better after some brief turbulence. Keep the Faith.
Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
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I tjink Johns revelation is a confirmation of THE Angelic psychedelic state grabbing Gold and showing Jim hope as a reborn member of future life reborn..
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So I'm convinced of a pre and post-trib rapture.

1 Thessalonians 4:17
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80217595


Cant be both. There is only one post Tribulation at the last trumpet, before Gods Wrath is unleashed.
 Quoting: paramedic


We have to do something first which is enter our chambers; kind of like Noah did during the cleansing. I used to be all in for the pretrib rapture but I know now the Lord is preparing us to meet him. No matter how religious you are NONE of us are ready to meet Him. We are about to grow into the perfect blemish free bride for Jesus. The church is going to grow and do amazing things. So so many are about to be saved! Take care and check out Bo Polny he explains things with numbers. It's amazing actually how God is about to move to prepare the bride.

Isaiah 26:20 Come, my people, enter your chambers, and shut your doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until the fury has passed by.
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Thanks you, please Tea i tjink so..
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What really worries me personally, and what ewakes My interest. Is tjat THE Them of rapture is misunderstood by mistranslation and excageration by prophets befpre John i. THE Bublé.. which i now cant remember and wont look Up..
In actuallity THE One about THE world going Up in flames, its a 50/50 between ohilosophical vision and actual happening
But Johns revelation coming arter seems to point att THE stans of allegorical fact contributed by vision of a tjird perspektivet..
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Like John actually descrining that he sers an absract theme befpre an actual factual theme like THE ones before him.
Which är mostly made Up of ethical Verdes.
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You others prob have hade more Times than me getting to know THE Bublé. Im mostly aqauinted by revelation since god told me its about me.
It hinta att destruktion a lot but its Bert allegorical and simplex once its understöd from a first person perspektivet.
It hinta att sslvation. Much more is Hard to till as Day by Day progresses i get smarter myself, im only Young Still, 29
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I tjink its THE Still untold story of life, but.

1000 Tears.
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Sorry to burst your bubble Rapture Tards but we all are riding this till the end..

Noah was not saved from the flood, he had to endure it in a boat till the end and if he lost faith during that time than God would have sunk his boat.

Same for all of us we to will have to endure the tribulation to test our faith..

No one on earth today is better then Noah so why would God rapture you up before the Real SHTF but not Noah..

Stop spreading Rapture lies and Rapture dates that always fail you Harold Camping Tards..

stewart1fu
 Quoting: JackReno


August 1993: I had my own personal private "rapture" while conscious and walking to work.

My soul was taken up by Jesus Christ to Heaven to stand in front of HIM.

I given a choice.

HE spoke telepathically asking if I wished to stay in Heaven or return to Earth.

I asked (and was allowed) to be returned to Earth to tell everyone that Heaven was real.


The only place left for me to go to was HELL itself.

It took me from to August 1993 to October 2003 to successfully break through into HELL which I barely survived and then returned back again to Earth.


DECEMBER 2003:

GOD IN HIS DIVINE TIMING arranged that I met in the flesh with my (wife) ONE TRUE PERFECT LOVE (MY ETERNAL BELOVED TWINFLAME).

THE MOST HIGH GOD HIMSELF came down into our room (in London, UK) in ALL of HIS DIVINE MAJESTY and GLORY to personally BLESS our SACRED ETERNAL TWIN FLAME MARRIAGE.

My TWIN FLAME and I instantly “merged” souls AS ONE with each other - and then we “merged” souls AS ONE with GOD HIMSELF - and then we transported each other across in a tsunami wave of elation to GODS GOLDEN REALM “HOME” of Timeless Infinite Orgasmic Love Bliss Peace Happiness Joy Glory Ecstasy Forever!

hf

My wife and myself are currently in TWO PLACES AT ONCE...

(1) WE are with THE MOST HIGH GOD HIMSELF.
(2) WE are still here alive on Planet Earth.

WE will FULLY "ASCEND" to GOD at the very END!

abduct
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Yea well lets hear about your TWINFLAME in 15 years when you are going thru a divorce. That is assuming most wont be around by then any way.
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Im not gonna look it Up now as im drink. But its THE One about gods mighty Day when THE world goes Up in flames, and IF its arter THE 1000yr reign of rev or not, which worries me..
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It could just be mistranslation of visions.. Bring that he saw something out of a video Game, as he was only human.
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And that THE fact that revelation exists points to just that, it and THE while rapture fantasy Bring just that, a human mistake





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