"There Is No Shortage?" Train Loads Of Lumber Stacked As Far As The Eye Can See

The shortage will obviously be filled eventually. It just takes a few months for the loggers and mills to catch up to the demand.

actually, crony socialism

Yes,neighbor most of it salvage logging, due to the fires that were lit by the communist cunts.

Last Edited by Super Straight Splinterhead on 05/04/2021 04:47 PM

Capitolism.

Money money money

Wood float on water, and if they had not built another Noah Ark by then.. it is another preparation for the coming great flood.

Would you want to dive underwater and chopped the trees down?.

They know it and preparing for it.

That's why when quoting always over-estimate the price of a build by a margin of 15%. It gives you flexible margins and potentially higher profits without being greedy.

...says the guy that has clearly never build anything of substance.

Nope.
You want it, we got plenty, how much you want ?

Biden could drop the tariff on Canadian lumber and prices would crater.
And the PROFIT is going to the middlemen.

There was apost from a person high up in the lumber contract market and he said biden admin due to climate change cut the lumber contract for most of the north east

Confirmed. In fact, you won’t see a development contract today without some form of price adjustment language included.

Spoken like a true proud gay Canadomunist

I spoke to a lumber company owner in Oregon yesteray on a business call. He said OSB board was $17.00 now its $38.00 per 4X8 Sheet. He doesnt know why.

I get tired of saying this... The lumber prices are completely the result of mafia style collusion and market manipulation, between the handful of mobster families that run the entire timber industry. Covid-1984 didn't affect the production of wood products AT ALL. Our secret supermills tucked away in the hinterlands of Northern Canada just keep rolling on.

The price is lumber is beyond absurd, I am pretty sure most people don't have a clue. Go ahead and drop by your local yard and buy half a dozen boards - I dare you.

I just flew over Canada. If you want to understand the lumber crisis, just do this. It's an Agenda 2030 plan to stop new home builds, plain and simple.

Video looks like a distribution center very common site here in the northeast by rail lines

Doesn't have to be shortage...lumber has been in a trading

range for years...once it broke out...it went insane...there

is huge demand...


doubt we will ever see S2.50 2x4 again...

That's true abt labor, as ppl are being paid more to stay home than to work. #hovidcoax

True also abt the good stuff going overseas. We're paying highly inflated prices for essentials because we're exchanging critical commodities for tonnage of low-brow chineser crap.

A pound of burger is 7 bucks and a 2x8/8 is 40 bucks, but thank the gods we have $3 t-shirts.

Go on Facebook Marketplace right now and check out all the average Joe's who quit their day jobs because of Rona and are now building wood dog crates for $3k a pop.

Last Edited by Zorro A. Knievel Esq. on 05/04/2021 06:06 PM

There is no conspiracy. Lumber is up because it was way too low for too long. While the price of many commodities doubled and tripled or more over the last decade lumber was flat.

Now it’s playing catch up. Until people stop buying it will stay high.

My coworker just transferred here and is having a house built. The 750k house is now 800k. So what? That’s like an extra 200$ on their house payment, which is nothing when you make six figs a year.

I take it most of you snowflakes have never seen a lumber yard before.


That yard is NOT unusual, and couldn't supply a large city let alone a single state.


Why is it, maybe, just sitting there? Price changes or it isn't.

It says it comes from Canada; so it could be pricing/dollar issues, could be customs issues. Who knows. Looks like much ado about nothing.

Btw, I spent a few months trucking (per trip) 30,000 lbs, and once 45,000 lbs lumber from Bracebridge Ont to the North Eastern States. Their yard wasn't that big, but I was one out of apprx 200 truckers and most of those truckers left south carrying lumber, every week.

meh.

this is the beginning of the building shut down. No more single family homes.

It has nothing to do with the pandemic. If there were real shortages, they couldn't do it because they wouldn't have lumber etc to sell and houses would not be being built. Instead they have lumber to sell and they are building and they are making big money.

They are making big money from all the people who have had big gains in stocks for the past decade from QE and so don't care about the price of building a house anyways. But don't blame the lumber cartel etc in that it's not just lumber. Lumber is just the 'you can't miss it' sign of what is going on out there now.

It's because of cryptocurrencies aka Bitcoin etc. All the smart people are grabbing all the cash they can to throw at crypto as fast as they can. It is incentivizing inflation as everyone who can raise prices are raising them to grab as much cash as they can to throw at crypto asap.

Nobody wanted to see the supply chain raising prices so much for the past decade because it will have to mean the end of QE aka free money from the Fed. The Fed can't keep handing out free money if inflation gets out of control because inflation is the problem free money can't solve and instead makes worse. But the difference now from ten years ago is that crypto markets are now very well established and deep in terms of the money you can throw in and take out of them, and everyone smart knows about them.

So now there is a growing stampede into crypto currencies, and the Fed has wanted to reduce QE for a while now, so people think all that QE will have to end anyway because of inflation, so they had better get with the smart herd and throw money at crypto or they will miss out.

People are raising prices because there are a lot of rich customers who can pay, and they themselves want to buy more crypto to protect themselves from inflation, but raising prices IS inflation which drives even more people into crypto. It's a positive feedback loop and that means big things could happen quickly when thresholds are crossed.

For now there are lots of Americans who are wealthy from the past decade of easy money and they can shrug off the price increases to keep this trend going, but ordinary folks will start to feel the pain more and more this year the more this trend continues.

NO QUESTION THIS IS A FABRICATED SHORTAGE TO INCREASE PRICES AND INCREASE PROFITS FOR THE GREEDY


ANYTIME YOU HEAR SIMILAR EVENTS TODAY MORE THAN LIKELY IT IS JUST GREEDY INTERESTS INCREASING PROFITS AND RETURNS FOR
GREEDY INVESTORS.

I have been in the construction business for over 25 years. Everything now has extended lead times; some building products are 20 to 30 weeks out. Lumber, Steel, Bathroom fixtures, Tile, Carpeting, Windows, etc. Many contractors are also having a very difficult time filling empty positions for various construction workers. Lack of supplies and lack of available workers will be bringing construction sites to a halt in some areas soon.

Some of my projects are restaurants. I have clients who own numerous restaurants; they will be shutting down very lucrative businesses in beach town vacation areas because they cannot find workers.

Last Edited by SmoothSailing on 05/04/2021 07:09 PM

I am in oregon at the foot of the cascades. I counted 21 log trucks coming down the McKenzie river highway yesterday with in 20 miles . Where the fires hit they are logging like I have never seen before . Detroit , McKenzie river , and all points south . There is absolutely NO shortage of lumber , pecker polls , chips , bark and the mills are in max processing capacity . Been here for over 40 years now and I havent seen anything like this before . One log truck a minuite coming down the mountain. There is no lumber shortage . Log decks are full to capacity .
Wish I knew how to post pictures on here.

There's no Construction (Industry) going on.

If there was any Construction going on,
those rail cars wouldn't be stacked-up like cord-wood.

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It's going gangbusters in BC...and we didn't get the massive price increase.

It's not taking advantage, all products worth is determined on faith of what the consumer will pay at any given moment (and obviously material, labor, etc).

If 1000 towns need lumber and I've only got enough for 800, there's no reason not to accept the highest price per board foot, as regardless how it's split up, 200 customers are going to be unhappy. Your paying for the right to not be one of those 200 people, short on your material for a deadline and no available inventory date.

In some cases, it's a matter of paying for convenience. In others, it may be costing money every day the required inventory is unobtainable.