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And so it BEGINS.... China and Russia may be teaming up.... guess WHY.

 
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Good!!! Let the entire global banking system collapse. The US dollar is no longer worth the paper it is no longer printed on. The ponzi scheme needs to collapse. We need to go back to the gold and silver standard, nationalize the fed reserve, and deatroy the global banking cabal.
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I agree, this worthless money is in fact very powerful and gives power to our evil overlords to do all manner of torture to not only US but the worlds people.
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And, of course....


The International Monetary Fund looks set to issue $650 billion in currency aid to countries hit hard by the coronavirus pandemic, but those with unsustainable debt burdens may struggle to reap the rewards.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen indicated last week that the U.S. is on board with the allocation of Special Drawing Rights, which are reserve assets that countries can use to supplement their foreign exchange assets, such as gold and U.S. dollars.


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the Federal Reserve prints almost 200 billion dollars monthly out of thin air and supplying the system with these fresh numbers on a digital screen, earning money from the creation of it and the interest that goes with it

causing massive global inflation since World's reserve currency is the dollar

what FED does, hits the whole World with same consequences

so USA should be nuked for it
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it's almost 300 billion and not 200
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Well, if THIS doesn't get the 'bye-done - harass' people out

of their leadership positions, nothing will!

This is totally the current administrations fault!

He's pushing to cause much destabilization among

our countries. Why? To bring WW3?


I say...maybe...
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And, of course....


The International Monetary Fund looks set to issue $650 billion in currency aid to countries hit hard by the coronavirus pandemic, but those with unsustainable debt burdens may struggle to reap the rewards.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen indicated last week that the U.S. is on board with the allocation of Special Drawing Rights, which are reserve assets that countries can use to supplement their foreign exchange assets, such as gold and U.S. dollars.


:laughing:
 Quoting: Digital mix guy


the Federal Reserve prints almost 200 billion dollars monthly out of thin air and supplying the system with these fresh numbers on a digital screen, earning money from the creation of it and the interest that goes with it

causing massive global inflation since World's reserve currency is the dollar

what FED does, hits the whole World with same consequences

so USA should be nuked for it
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Harsh but I get your point.

My economist buddy tried to explain to me how Russia will lend their money to China and China will lend their money to Russia at cost. So that each country is not affected by the others inflation/currency value/etc.
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Russia hates China, they would never do this...

Dispute what the MSM tells you, Russia and China are not friends...
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Russia hates China, they would never do this...

Dispute what the MSM tells you, Russia and China are not friends...
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Always problems but not too much hate for many years.
Wikipedia is not the best but:
"Sino–Russian relations since 1991 are currently close and cordial. Both countries maintain a strong geopolitical and regional alliance and significant levels of trade."
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Russia hates China, they would never do this...

Dispute what the MSM tells you, Russia and China are not friends...
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They don't need to be friends to attack common enemy, which is USA.

If USA collapses it is win win for China and Russia.
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Because I have been banned.
I can buy a premium account and be immune from bans.
But I choose not to.
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An old Chinese proverb "We plant trees so that our grandchildren will have shade"
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An old Chinese proverb "We plant trees so that our grandchildren will have shade"
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and American MO, we cut down trees so we can earn more money and build more polluting industries
Truth be known
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And, of course....


The International Monetary Fund looks set to issue $650 billion in currency aid to countries hit hard by the coronavirus pandemic, but those with unsustainable debt burdens may struggle to reap the rewards.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen indicated last week that the U.S. is on board with the allocation of Special Drawing Rights, which are reserve assets that countries can use to supplement their foreign exchange assets, such as gold and U.S. dollars.


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 Quoting: Digital mix guy


the Federal Reserve prints almost 200 billion dollars monthly out of thin air and supplying the system with these fresh numbers on a digital screen, earning money from the creation of it and the interest that goes with it

causing massive global inflation since World's reserve currency is the dollar

what FED does, hits the whole World with same consequences

so USA should be nuked for it
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Except it’s not the USA. It’s the federal reserve.
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Wait for the wheel barrel of cash for a loaf of bread?
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Russia hates China, they would never do this...

Dispute what the MSM tells you, Russia and China are not friends...
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend.....
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Is it possible for you to understand they are all unified against the peoples?
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Injudicious use of sanctions as a means to force other nations to do what the US dictates has caused those targeted nations to make plans to exit the dollar system.



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Read the other day that Russia's trade using dollars has dropped below the 50% mark. That shows that their effort to get off the USD system is working.


Not sure what happens when the nations from which we buy 'stuff' stop taking dollars and instead require the US to buy using some other currency...
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We fucking stop buying their stuff an manufacture here, taxing the shit out of imports. With the us not buying their stuff they will re-think their plan.
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Thank GOD!!! About time. I have traded 80 percent of my USD into Silver. Totally ready for the USD to burn and crash.
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Russia hates China, they would never do this...

Dispute what the MSM tells you, Russia and China are not friends...
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And Americans believe that Iran and Saudi hate each other too.
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In a rare joint statement in late March, China and Russia doubled down on earlier pledges to upend the global reliance on the U.S. dollar, and the long-standing global financial system that enables the U.S. to strong-arm them.

Will the Sino-Russian strategy succeed? My research suggests “dollar hegemony” is stable for many reasons, primarily due to the United States’ financial centrality and ability to secure investments. The measures announced so far, such as de-dollarization, renminbi digitalization, and alternative financial settlement and messaging systems, are unlikely to kick the dollar to the curb. But the reaction from America’s rivals underscores the limits of the dollar as a tool of deterrence.

If China and Russia devise successful alternatives to the dollar-centered financial system, and if these alternatives gain significant international traction, we would be witnessing a cataclysmic moment in great power rivalry. Currency unipolarity has been a defining feature of the entire postwar era — no currency, not even the euro, has ever come close to rivaling the scale of U.S. dollar use around the world.

An end to America’s dollar primacy and status as a financial hub could mean an end to U.S. macroeconomic perks. And a declining role for the dollar could also undermine the practice of dollar deterrence — the U.S. government’s ability to threaten or deny foreigners access to dollar clearing and, therefore, dollar settlement.

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This is not the first time countries have railed against dollar primacy. In the 1960s, French Finance Minister Giscard d’Estaing denounced the United States’ “exorbitant privilege” while economist Jacques Rueff decried the “monetary sin of the West.”

However, frustration with the system’s inequity pales in comparison with their ire over the discretion it gives the U.S. to exercise dollar deterrence. Should the U.S. lose this unique form of financial leverage, its ability to benefit from the current international order, and influence countries within it, will be sharply curtailed.

What is dollar deterrence?

U.S. dollar transactions are either cleared through the Federal Reserve or through U.S. financial institutions, which means foreigners depend on the U.S. financial infrastructure when settling dollar transactions. The United States’ ability to turn off the tap on foreign banks’ dollar funding can inflict significant costs on those who evade compliance with U.S. sanctions, given this extraterritorial reach.

Global dollar dependence provides the U.S. government with a powerful lever to police geopolitical behavior without intervening militarily. The U.S. has, for instance, sought to thwart Iran’s bid for regional hegemony, particularly its development of nuclear weapons and missile programs, not only by sanctioning Iran but by imposing secondary financial sanctions on countries dealing with Iran.

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The only way to stop globalism and their great reset.
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Thank GOD!!! About time. I have traded 80 percent of my USD into Silver. Totally ready for the USD to burn and crash.
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Gold/Silver isn't going to climb in a straight line.

But we are at the point in time when we will see steep increases in metals as we move into the Earth Gold Standard.

I hope that the closing US Bank branches will turn into Gold/Silver exchanges. They already have huge vaults in place and safe deposit boxes.

Better that than pawn shops.
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More and


more and

more

FAKE NEWS!
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For Putin to WOK well with China, Mr. Xi will have to separate the YinG from the YanG and find the straightest path.

Asians have known for millennia,.. The nOOdle will have to b=e pulled...to make one's path Straightah! ...lolz



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See if America woulda stopped hating on Russia and China because the Country ran by a bunch a greedy fucks then maybe we could a been friends sharing in prosperity instead of having to feel threatened by China.

Seriously why can't America just be happy for Russia or China's come up and trust that shits gonna be fine and just work towards global unity.

I mean there is 0 guarantee they are gonna be dicks if they achieve any power. America is just reflecting it's own shit nature on others.
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As Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov started a two-day trip to China on Monday, days after senior Chinese and US officials clashed openly during a bilateral meeting, a major topic in talks with Chinese State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi is how to counter US sanctions -- not just on China and Russia but a growing list of other countries -- using its dollar hegemony, analysts said.

As the new US administration under President Joe Biden signals its intention to continue his predecessor Donald Trump's confrontational approach by wielding sticks, many countries around the world are faced with the risk of a weaponized, dollar-centered global payment system and a growing urgency to find alternatives.

While ending the greenback's dominance remains an almost impossible mission at the moment, there are ways for countries to find ways to at least avert certain sanctions and slowly chip away at the dollar's dominance, analysts added, noting that the trend of de-dollarization in certain areas is on the rise.

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This began some time ago, even though the Establishment sniffed at anyone who suggested the scenario

China wont treat Lavrov like they treat American dickwads like Rice, Blinken et al
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BRICS Nations have been pooling Gold Reserves to create a new Gold Backed currency that WILL replace the US Dollar as the Worlds reserve currency. 11+yr old news.

BRICS Nations = Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. Iran joined a decade ago too. Syria too?

GLP used to discuss this topic over a decade ago.
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In a rare joint statement in late March, China and Russia doubled down on earlier pledges to upend the global reliance on the U.S. dollar, and the long-standing global financial system that enables the U.S. to strong-arm them.

Will the Sino-Russian strategy succeed? My research suggests “dollar hegemony” is stable for many reasons, primarily due to the United States’ financial centrality and ability to secure investments. The measures announced so far, such as de-dollarization, renminbi digitalization, and alternative financial settlement and messaging systems, are unlikely to kick the dollar to the curb. But the reaction from America’s rivals underscores the limits of the dollar as a tool of deterrence.

If China and Russia devise successful alternatives to the dollar-centered financial system, and if these alternatives gain significant international traction, we would be witnessing a cataclysmic moment in great power rivalry. Currency unipolarity has been a defining feature of the entire postwar era — no currency, not even the euro, has ever come close to rivaling the scale of U.S. dollar use around the world.

An end to America’s dollar primacy and status as a financial hub could mean an end to U.S. macroeconomic perks. And a declining role for the dollar could also undermine the practice of dollar deterrence — the U.S. government’s ability to threaten or deny foreigners access to dollar clearing and, therefore, dollar settlement.

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This is not the first time countries have railed against dollar primacy. In the 1960s, French Finance Minister Giscard d’Estaing denounced the United States’ “exorbitant privilege” while economist Jacques Rueff decried the “monetary sin of the West.”

However, frustration with the system’s inequity pales in comparison with their ire over the discretion it gives the U.S. to exercise dollar deterrence. Should the U.S. lose this unique form of financial leverage, its ability to benefit from the current international order, and influence countries within it, will be sharply curtailed.

What is dollar deterrence?

U.S. dollar transactions are either cleared through the Federal Reserve or through U.S. financial institutions, which means foreigners depend on the U.S. financial infrastructure when settling dollar transactions. The United States’ ability to turn off the tap on foreign banks’ dollar funding can inflict significant costs on those who evade compliance with U.S. sanctions, given this extraterritorial reach.

Global dollar dependence provides the U.S. government with a powerful lever to police geopolitical behavior without intervening militarily. The U.S. has, for instance, sought to thwart Iran’s bid for regional hegemony, particularly its development of nuclear weapons and missile programs, not only by sanctioning Iran but by imposing secondary financial sanctions on countries dealing with Iran.

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Wouldn’t it be ironic
The left in America think the right are Russian sympathizers
And the right in America think the left are Chinese communist sympathizers
When maybe they just divided USA citizens
So they can divide up American land for themselves
Truth be known
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Russia hates China, they would never do this...

Dispute what the MSM tells you, Russia and China are not friends...
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They don't need to be friends to attack common enemy, which is USA.

If USA collapses it is win win for China and Russia.
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It’s lose lose. The US will take their ball and kill everyone else on the way home.
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Russia has lots of natural resources and China has lots of hungry people willing to move
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US = fucked.

- 28 trillion in debt, fed cannot raise interest rates else the short term debt will roll over at the higher rates making the debt impossible to service.

- medicare/medicaid are set to go bankrupt in 2 years and probably sooner.

- more and more oil contracts are settling in euros and the chinese yuan. it won't be long till the petrodollar goes extinct.

- global appetite for us treasuries stopped in 2014. meanwhile foreign appetite for chinese bonds is growing.

- oh, and the us hollowed out its manufacturing core to such a degree that the department of defense has to buy supplies from china to wage war.





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