IF you love me.....

Best saying ever “I Don’t Know!”

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Cheers Kate.
You seem like a kind person.

:)

Why insist on love to coerce obedience, especially absolute obedience?

Believe me, I struggle like everyone else, but I fight the fight every day to do what is right, not in my eyes, but in His!

Thank you!

Amen to that.
That is the best way to live. It puts everything else into the proper perspective.
You had a thread last week about Canadian GLPers getting together this summer.
That would be a great idea - provided they don't lock down travel even more than they already have.
Keep the faith and may you go in the strength of our Lord.

My struggle right now is with humans in general, I feel encroached upon. It's as if everyone wants to live where we live, the traffic and housing prices are driving us away from a place we raised our children. The way folks drive is a reflection of what is inside them, it's a dog eat dog mentality these days for sure and we are going to leave it behind us soon.

I would pray that I don't do mortal harm to someone because that is what I feel I could do, God give me patience.

I don’t think it’s that, it’s just a choice we make.

How well does a marriage go when you break your vows to each other, and why do we NOT want to break them? Is it because we have to keep them or is it out of love and never wanting to hurt the one we love?

I think it’s like that, not coercion, a choice.

Bridegroom - Jesus
Bride - Believers

Same principle of earthly marriage.

Amen

Um, no. The marriage happened first, then the vows are forced. They were never followed by both parties. But this format gives you too much time to think of clever answers, and to consult with those who are in bad faith. Jesus and his father, and both of their followers, specialize in calling a shotgun marriage free will. Free will only exists for the sake of insisting the person already agreed.

That’s sounds like you’re tossing word salad at me, it make no sense at all.

The threat of Hell if you don't forces you into the marriage. Free will is only the will to acknowledge God's total control, and thus it isn't even will at all. Why make up a philosophical game that doesn't even exist in the Bible? Because it gives the people who declare themselves to be his representatives the right to punish. Does that make sense? Take all the time you want to manufacture a non-heartfelt response.

I love you! I love everyone by default, as all mankind is my brethren. We were taught only one simple rule to ensure we could all get along, the Golden Rule, I abide by it to my best ability.

Thanks for a lovely post and putting a smile on my face this morning!

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I don't know you that well. lol.

The relationship began with sin to begin with then. There’s a reason we are to pair up with someone we are equally yoked to - same convictions!

Agreed lol

Original sin contradicts free will as no one can will to be saved.

Don’t forget about forgivenessness, a relationship can be purified.

You’re on the attack, i don’t want to go any further with you because of that ok.

Kate - don't bother arguing with this person. You won't change his mind - he has wrong thinking because his brain is broken.

AC - your statement above begins with a lie.
No one is "insisting on love" - so your argument dies before it can begin. You started with a false pretense.
GOD is GOD - He exists whether you believe in Him or not.
And whether you chose to believe this or not PROVES free will.

You can chose to not believe.
Because GOD established everything including the "rules" - then don't be surprised if you are punished because you broke the rules. Your belief in Him or not doesn't change what has been established.

I know I will not convince you of anything, just like you won't convince me.
So please, just drop it and don't sidetrack the thread.

Much Love, friend. Peace be with you.

Amen

That’s exactly what it says….

Love sent to you both.

If you honestly believe you won't convince me and that my 'brain is broken,' you only responded to get brownie points from the club. Exactly the lack of free will and groupthink of which I complained. More specifically, God people don't do justice, they just talk about it. If a God person punishes someone or harms them wrongly, they aren't accused of playing God; but if their victim refuses to forgive them and says the law say they must be punished in turn, then they are accused of it.

The free will argument is intended to break brains. People are held to wildly different standards in God person world, and this in open defiance of the Bible expressly saying not to do so. So everyone goes down together, because the God people refuse to let anyone leave, and it's all down to the fault of not God, not the self-declared God people, but of the person who won't forgive what would never have been repented of--because it gets money, power, and all sorts of 'wordly' things.

John 14:15
If ye love Me, keep My commandments.

Exodus 20:6
And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love Me, and keep My commandments.

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Thou shalt not take the name of YHWH thy Elohim in vain; for YHWH will not hold him guiltless that taketh His name in vain.

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Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Hebrews 4:9

There remains therefore a Sabbatismos for the people of Elohim

Sabbatismos = Keeping Sabbath

Isa 58:14

Then shalt thou delight thyself in YHWH; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of YHWH hath spoken it.

Exodus 20:6
And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love Me, and keep My commandments.

Exodus is mind blowing

The whole Old Testament is

Just unbelievable

...xo

I would do as you request, but I don't know what you want me to do. I didn't get the message. I have to go and find out how to survive on my own now and you are not going to be able to find me. Sorry but, I have to leave this very dangerous place to try an maybe find a safer one. Doesn't look good at the moment.