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Holy Quran says polytheists are trying to reduce the world population

 
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6:137 And it was adorned for the polytheists, by their partners, to kill their children in order to turn them and to confound their system for them. Had God willed they would not have done this, so ignore them and what they invent.

14:46 Andthey schemed their scheming, and their scheming is known to God; and their scheming was enough to make the mountains cease to exist.

 Quoting: Turkic


Muslims have been using those lines for a thousand years

:270:
 Quoting: GORGLESNARGLE


Where is the "What If I Told You" meme that says it was the vatican and euro elite of Gog Magog who created islam and the quran and talmud and fake hollow cost and 911 and fake moon landing and private banks and hollywood and porn and fast food and walmart and malls and social media and glp?
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How about a cartoon of Mohammed?
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6:137 And it was adorned for the polytheists, by their partners, to kill their children in order to turn them and to confound their system for them. Had God willed they would not have done this, so ignore them and what they invent.

14:46 Andthey schemed their scheming, and their scheming is known to God; and their scheming was enough to make the mountains cease to exist.

 Quoting: Turkic


Muslims have been using those lines for a thousand years

:270:
 Quoting: GORGLESNARGLE


Where is the "What If I Told You" meme that says it was the vatican and euro elite of Gog Magog who created islam and the quran and talmud and fake hollow cost and 911 and fake moon landing and private banks and hollywood and porn and fast food and walmart and malls and social media and glp?
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Feel free you make your own memes

I researched mine.

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6:137 And it was adorned for the polytheists, by their partners, to kill their children in order to turn them and to confound their system for them. Had God willed they would not have done this, so ignore them and what they invent.

14:46 Andthey schemed their scheming, and their scheming is known to God; and their scheming was enough to make the mountains cease to exist.

 Quoting: Turkic


Muslims have been using those lines for a thousand years

:270:
 Quoting: GORGLESNARGLE


Where is the "What If I Told You" meme that says it was the vatican and euro elite of Gog Magog who created islam and the quran and talmud and fake hollow cost and 911 and fake moon landing and private banks and hollywood and porn and fast food and walmart and malls and social media and glp?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83974024


How about a cartoon of Mohammed?
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mohamad was a fake as it is. But his Gog Magog and Vatican masters have the whole world fooled with the same tomfoolery like evolution and jhudaism and nasa and the vatican.
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Quran sounds like a retarded version of a children's story book.
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Again:

Everyone is free to believe what they wish, according to Quran. This is the goal of the test world. To confront yourself.

Quran only allows a war of defense.

If you read the full of the verses, you will always see the struggle with the attackers in the defense battle.

Example;

2:190 Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress, God does not like the aggressors.

2:191 Fight them wherever you meet them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. Do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then fight them. Thus is the reward of those who do not appreciate.

2:192 If they cease, then God is Forgiving, Compassionate.

2:193 Fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is God's. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.

***********

Here again, He says, fight with the attackers.

But if you pull out a single verse. You make it look like saying the opposite.

And look at:

49:9 And if two parties of believers battle with each other, you shall reconcile them; but if one of them aggresses against the other, then you shall fight the one aggressing until it complies with the command of God. Once it complies, then you shall reconcile the two groups with justice, and be equitable; for God loves those who are equitable.

As you can see saying, if the attackers are Muslims, stop them too.
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Again:

Everyone is free to believe what they wish, according to Quran. This is the goal of the test world. To confront yourself.

Quran only allows a war of defense.

If you read the full of the verses, you will always see the struggle with the attackers in the defense battle.

Example;

2:190 Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress, God does not like the aggressors.

2:191 Fight them wherever you meet them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. Do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then fight them. Thus is the reward of those who do not appreciate.

2:192 If they cease, then God is Forgiving, Compassionate.

2:193 Fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is God's. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.

***********

Here again, He says, fight with the attackers.

But if you pull out a single verse. You make it look like saying the opposite.

And look at:

49:9 And if two parties of believers battle with each other, you shall reconcile them; but if one of them aggresses against the other, then you shall fight the one aggressing until it complies with the command of God. Once it complies, then you shall reconcile the two groups with justice, and be equitable; for God loves those who are equitable.

As you can see saying, if the attackers are Muslims, stop them too.
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And;

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Again:

Everyone is free to believe what they wish, according to Quran. This is the goal of the test world. To confront yourself.

Quran only allows a war of defense.

If you read the full of the verses, you will always see the struggle with the attackers in the defense battle.

Example;

2:190 Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress, God does not like the aggressors.

2:191 Fight them wherever you meet them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. Do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then fight them. Thus is the reward of those who do not appreciate.

2:192 If they cease, then God is Forgiving, Compassionate.

2:193 Fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is God's. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.

***********

Here again, He says, fight with the attackers.

But if you pull out a single verse. You make it look like saying the opposite.

And look at:

49:9 And if two parties of believers battle with each other, you shall reconcile them; but if one of them aggresses against the other, then you shall fight the one aggressing until it complies with the command of God. Once it complies, then you shall reconcile the two groups with justice, and be equitable; for God loves those who are equitable.

As you can see saying, if the attackers are Muslims, stop them too.
 Quoting: Emre_1974tr 52041143


Isn't odd how every time Muslims kill millions it is always after they have invaded a country and the citizens of that country defend themselves and Muslims are defending themselves against that defense....
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Again:

Everyone is free to believe what they wish, according to Quran. This is the goal of the test world. To confront yourself.

Quran only allows a war of defense.

If you read the full of the verses, you will always see the struggle with the attackers in the defense battle.

Example;

2:190 Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress, God does not like the aggressors.

2:191 Fight them wherever you meet them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. Do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then fight them. Thus is the reward of those who do not appreciate.

2:192 If they cease, then God is Forgiving, Compassionate.

2:193 Fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is God's. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.

***********

Here again, He says, fight with the attackers.

But if you pull out a single verse. You make it look like saying the opposite.

And look at:

49:9 And if two parties of believers battle with each other, you shall reconcile them; but if one of them aggresses against the other, then you shall fight the one aggressing until it complies with the command of God. Once it complies, then you shall reconcile the two groups with justice, and be equitable; for God loves those who are equitable.

As you can see saying, if the attackers are Muslims, stop them too.
 Quoting: Emre_1974tr 52041143


Once again you are posting the watered down version of the Koran for the kaffir to read.

That's not about defense. Laying in wait is not defense, it's AMBUSH and ATTACK.

Taqiyya much?
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Isn't odd how every time Muslims kill millions it is always after they have invaded a country and the citizens of that country defend themselves and Muslims are defending themselves against that defense....
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right!

asymmetrical warfare. That's what the koran is all about. Dirty stinking tricks and assholery warfare.
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Holy Quran

6:137 And it was adorned for the polytheists, by their partners, to kill their children in order to turn them and to confound their system for them. Had God willed they would not have done this, so ignore them and what they invent.

14:46 Andthey schemed their scheming, and their scheming is known to God; and their scheming was enough to make the mountains cease to exist.

 Quoting: Turkic


FIRST muslims are polytheists. How man gods are allah, which is a SINGULARITY (unlike God of the bible which is ECHAD, meaning a plurality in oneness), and this singularity called allah COEXISTS beside his eternal word, the quran, which will become a white man that argues with allah and sends black people to hell. So how gods are 1+1? The answer ofcourse are 2, muslims worship 2 gods, since here you have 2 divine, eternal, uncreated seperate entities.

Article on the biblical meaning of ECHAD, or one, YACHID, which is a singularity is never used for God:
[link to news.kehila.org (secure)]

Also MUSLIMS want to reduce the worlds population and comit genocide on non-muslims, so who are you to point fingers? Are you talking about yourself as those polytheists that want to reduce the worlds population? Islam is a death cult, encouraging people sacrificing their own life and the lives of non-muslims or what various groups in this cult see as competitive heretical groups of muslims (shiites vs sunnis etc). Heres the quran verses:


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And pedophilia is allowed in quran verse 65:4, like your best moral example, muhammed, practiced when he climbed on top of 9 year old aisha which is described in Sahih Bukhari 5133, 5134, 5158 & 6130 and Sahih Muslim 3480-3482.

These hadiths are your most "holy" books as a muslim and deemed to be AUTHENTIC and if you are seen as a heretic if you reject these among sunni mulims, so you cant get away from this.
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Once again you are posting the watered down version of the Koran for the kaffir to read.

That's not about defense. Laying in wait is not defense, it's AMBUSH and ATTACK.

Taqiyya much?
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Quran only allows a war of defense.

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“They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore do not take friends from among them, until they emigrate in the way of Allah; then, if they turn their backs, seize them and kill them wherever you find them; do not take for yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)

Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment, (Qur'an 5:33) <- remember this when muslims accuse you of causing "corruption" when you speak truth to them.

“When your Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers; so strike the necks, and strike every finger of them!” (Qur’an 8:12)

“Fight them, till there is no Fitna and religion is all for Allah; then if they give over, surely Allah sees the things they do.” (Qur’an 8:39) <- Fitna = a state of trouble or chaos.

“Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, and do not practice the religion of truth, even if they are of the People of the Book — until they pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” (Qur’an 9:29)

“Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon Allah in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran; and who fulfils his covenant truer than Allah? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.” (Qur’an 9:111)

"So do not weaken and call for peace while you are superior; and Allah is with you and will never deprive you of [the reward of] your deeds." (Qur’an 47:35)

“O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.” (Qur’an 9:123)

“When you meet the unbelievers, strike their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads. So it shall be; and if Allah had willed, He would have avenged Himself upon them; but that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will not send their works astray.” (Qur’an 47:4)

...etc. You can double check on for example www.quran.com or get the only honest quran translations in english either from Usama Dakdok (the generous quran) or Robert Spencer for a deep dive into this cult.
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"Is there child marriage in Quran?

The first subject that should be reminded to those who attack our Prophet due to the age of Aisha (Her Holiness) and claim that child marriage is allowed in Quran, is that the provisions can only be learned from Quran and they should not rely on sources that do not comply with Quran. Allah says”We left nothing missing in this book…”(En’am Surah, 38).In Quran which is definitely complete, an important subject as time of marriage has also been mentioned.

Check the orphans until they are eligible for marriage; if you realize any maturity in them immediately give them their wealth… (Nisa Surah, 6)

“do not approach the wealth of the orphan maliciously until his adolescence…” (En’am Surah, 152)

If you read the verses carefully, they say ‘’check the orphans until they are eligible for marriage’’. It says if you realize any maturity in them immediately give them their wealth. In the second verse it says do not approach the wealth of the orphan maliciously until his adolescence. A child cannot know what money is. He cannot know about saving, budget spending and investment. If you give money to a child he will probably get chocolate or candy with it. So he will start to control his wealth when he is mentally mature, not physically. The same principle applies for the marriage too.

The word “ru&#351;hden” in the verse means that the man and woman should be “Mature”.

Rushd: Ability of finding the right way.
Reshid: The person who shows the right way to others.
Rashid: The person who has the capacity of finding the right way.
Murshid: The person who educates, teaches.

The bride price (Mehir),is the money or wealth given by the man to the woman when getting married according to the Islamic Laws. The bride price is given directly to the woman, not to her family. According to the verse mentioned above, the period when the wealth is given to its owner is the period when the person can manage that wealth. So the woman who gets the bride price should be mature enough to control it.

The claims regarding that Aisha got married when she was 6-9 years old do not comply with the marriage period stated in Quran. The marriage period stated in Quran complies with the age restriction mentioned in our current Civil Law. Besides, Buhari who is one of the owners of the sources where Aisha’s age has been stated lived 238 years later than our Prophet, Muslim 243 years later, Tirmizi 260 years later, Ebu Davud 256 years later, Nesai 238 years later, &#304;bn-i Mace 263 years later. The age of Aisha is mentioned in some sources as 6, in some as 9 and in some others as 18. The reference regarding marriage age is Quran. Quran mentions the necessity of mental maturity for marriage.

But some of the atheists who ignore this true fact, claim that the term ‘’that does not menstruate’’ in Talak Surah 4th Verse refers to a child.

”If you hesitate regarding the delay period of the women who do not menstruate (due to menopause period), their delay period is three months. Same period applies for those who do not menstruate. The delay period of pregnant women ends when they give birth to their children. Allah helps those who respect Him and refrain from opposing Him.”(Talak, 4)

It says that the delay period of women who do not menstruate or are in menopause period is 3 months. Why waiting for 3 months? To determine if she is pregnant or not. Can the child who does not menstruate become pregnant? No. Then no need to wait for 3 months. The woman who is pregnant does not menstruate. But it takes a while to determine her pregnancy. The delay period for the women in this state is 3 months. The woman whose pregnancy is certain waits until birth.

The term ‘vellailemyahidne’ which is translated as girls who do not menstruate in the interpretations medically means “sekonderamenore”. It refers to the women who have medical menstruation problems (the woman who does not menstruate for any reason during 3 months or more).

The term of “not menstruated yet” that we read in some of the interpretations is not mentioned in the 4th Verse of Talak Surah. In order to say not menstruated yet the term ”ellaaiii lemma yahidne ” should be mentioned.

Lem: Will never happen, or never happened before.
Lemma: Not happened yet but will happen.

The word ‘’Nisa’’ mentioned in the verse is used for mature women. If the person who does not menstruate were a child then the terms ”Vildan, Veled, Benat…” should have been used. But the word ‘’Nisa’’ which stands for mature women is used in the Verse.

As a result, Quran does not allow child marriage. Such wrong applications are favored by societies that are far from Quran. The atheists and fanatics claim that Islam allows child marriage due to translations made wrong intentionally. Children are living beings that need compassion. Nobody can find proofs from Quran supporting their pervert ideas.

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Again:

Everyone is free to believe what they wish, according to Quran. This is the goal of the test world. To confront yourself.

Quran only allows a war of defense.

If you read the full of the verses, you will always see the struggle with the attackers in the defense battle.

Example;

2:190 Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress, God does not like the aggressors.

2:191 Fight them wherever you meet them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. Do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then fight them. Thus is the reward of those who do not appreciate.

2:192 If they cease, then God is Forgiving, Compassionate.

2:193 Fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is God's. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.

***********

Here again, He says, fight with the attackers.

But if you pull out a single verse. You make it look like saying the opposite.

And look at:

49:9 And if two parties of believers battle with each other, you shall reconcile them; but if one of them aggresses against the other, then you shall fight the one aggressing until it complies with the command of God. Once it complies, then you shall reconcile the two groups with justice, and be equitable; for God loves those who are equitable.

As you can see saying, if the attackers are Muslims, stop them too.
 Quoting: Emre_1974tr 52041143


and

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"Is there child marriage in Quran?

The first subject that should be reminded to those who attack our Prophet due to the age of Aisha (Her Holiness) and claim that child marriage is allowed in Quran, is that the provisions can only be learned from Quran and they should not rely on sources that do not comply with Quran. Allah says”We left nothing missing in this book…”(En’am Surah, 38).In Quran which is definitely complete, an important subject as time of marriage has also been mentioned.

Check the orphans until they are eligible for marriage; if you realize any maturity in them immediately give them their wealth… (Nisa Surah, 6)

“do not approach the wealth of the orphan maliciously until his adolescence…” (En’am Surah, 152)

If you read the verses carefully, they say ‘’check the orphans until they are eligible for marriage’’. It says if you realize any maturity in them immediately give them their wealth. In the second verse it says do not approach the wealth of the orphan maliciously until his adolescence. A child cannot know what money is. He cannot know about saving, budget spending and investment. If you give money to a child he will probably get chocolate or candy with it. So he will start to control his wealth when he is mentally mature, not physically. The same principle applies for the marriage too.

The word “ru&#351;hden” in the verse means that the man and woman should be “Mature”.

Rushd: Ability of finding the right way.
Reshid: The person who shows the right way to others.
Rashid: The person who has the capacity of finding the right way.
Murshid: The person who educates, teaches.

The bride price (Mehir),is the money or wealth given by the man to the woman when getting married according to the Islamic Laws. The bride price is given directly to the woman, not to her family. According to the verse mentioned above, the period when the wealth is given to its owner is the period when the person can manage that wealth. So the woman who gets the bride price should be mature enough to control it.

The claims regarding that Aisha got married when she was 6-9 years old do not comply with the marriage period stated in Quran. The marriage period stated in Quran complies with the age restriction mentioned in our current Civil Law. Besides, Buhari who is one of the owners of the sources where Aisha’s age has been stated lived 238 years later than our Prophet, Muslim 243 years later, Tirmizi 260 years later, Ebu Davud 256 years later, Nesai 238 years later, &#304;bn-i Mace 263 years later. The age of Aisha is mentioned in some sources as 6, in some as 9 and in some others as 18. The reference regarding marriage age is Quran. Quran mentions the necessity of mental maturity for marriage.

But some of the atheists who ignore this true fact, claim that the term ‘’that does not menstruate’’ in Talak Surah 4th Verse refers to a child.

”If you hesitate regarding the delay period of the women who do not menstruate (due to menopause period), their delay period is three months. Same period applies for those who do not menstruate. The delay period of pregnant women ends when they give birth to their children. Allah helps those who respect Him and refrain from opposing Him.”(Talak, 4)

It says that the delay period of women who do not menstruate or are in menopause period is 3 months. Why waiting for 3 months? To determine if she is pregnant or not. Can the child who does not menstruate become pregnant? No. Then no need to wait for 3 months. The woman who is pregnant does not menstruate. But it takes a while to determine her pregnancy. The delay period for the women in this state is 3 months. The woman whose pregnancy is certain waits until birth.

The term ‘vellailemyahidne’ which is translated as girls who do not menstruate in the interpretations medically means “sekonderamenore”. It refers to the women who have medical menstruation problems (the woman who does not menstruate for any reason during 3 months or more).

The term of “not menstruated yet” that we read in some of the interpretations is not mentioned in the 4th Verse of Talak Surah. In order to say not menstruated yet the term ”ellaaiii lemma yahidne ” should be mentioned.

Lem: Will never happen, or never happened before.
Lemma: Not happened yet but will happen.

The word ‘’Nisa’’ mentioned in the verse is used for mature women. If the person who does not menstruate were a child then the terms ”Vildan, Veled, Benat…” should have been used. But the word ‘’Nisa’’ which stands for mature women is used in the Verse.

As a result, Quran does not allow child marriage. Such wrong applications are favored by societies that are far from Quran. The atheists and fanatics claim that Islam allows child marriage due to translations made wrong intentionally. Children are living beings that need compassion. Nobody can find proofs from Quran supporting their pervert ideas.

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bsflag

Such effort to try to lie and decieve about the quran saying something else than exactly what it says.

Muhammed hijab, a muslim, will lecture you on quran verse 65:4:



There are also tafsirs verifying what muhammed hijab says. So quran verse 65:4 DOES INDEED allow pedophilia. End of debate.

Next:

Al Fadi and David Wood, chrisitans like me, will lecture you on muhammeds sexlife with 9 year old aisha:



There you go. Im telling the truth, youre lying.
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So, why should you listen to me, a christian? Well, you do deny the crucifixion of Christ, dont you? Did you know Jesus Christ is written about in detail in the old testament, centuries before you came, including his crucifixion? Its in the dead sea scrolls so you cant argue about that fact.

That alone should make you as a muslim (or atheist for that matter) worried, because Jesus and the crucifixion is one of the most well attested historical facts of ancient history - says SECULAR SCHOLARS that dont even look at the old testament (because in their world, prophecy - which in CHRISTIAN context involves speaking into the future - is impossible):

"The question of the historicity of Jesus is part of the study of the historical Jesus as undertaken in the quest for the historical Jesus and the scholarly reconstructions of the life of Jesus.[1][2][3] Virtually all scholars of antiquity accept that Jesus was a historical figure,[note 1][note 2][4][5][6][7] although interpretations of a number of the events mentioned in the gospels (most notably his miracles and resurrection) vary and are a subject of debate.[8][9][10][11] Standard historical criteria have aided in evaluating the historicity of the gospel narratives,[12][13] and only two key events are subject to "almost universal assent", namely that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and crucified by order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate."

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Birdseye view of the bible:



Example of a often cited old testament prophecy of the crucifixion (there are many more):



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Its worth leaving the lies of islam and learn this when your eternal destiny is at stake, but the choice is yours. Turkey was where the first churches began btw, you can read about them in the book of revelation by apostle John.

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"Is there child marriage in Quran?

The first subject that should be reminded to those who attack our Prophet due to the age of Aisha (Her Holiness) and claim that child marriage is allowed in Quran, is that the provisions can only be learned from Quran and they should not rely on sources that do not comply with Quran. Allah says”We left nothing missing in this book…”(En’am Surah, 38).In Quran which is definitely complete, an important subject as time of marriage has also been mentioned.

Check the orphans until they are eligible for marriage; if you realize any maturity in them immediately give them their wealth… (Nisa Surah, 6)

“do not approach the wealth of the orphan maliciously until his adolescence…” (En’am Surah, 152)

If you read the verses carefully, they say ‘’check the orphans until they are eligible for marriage’’. It says if you realize any maturity in them immediately give them their wealth. In the second verse it says do not approach the wealth of the orphan maliciously until his adolescence. A child cannot know what money is. He cannot know about saving, budget spending and investment. If you give money to a child he will probably get chocolate or candy with it. So he will start to control his wealth when he is mentally mature, not physically. The same principle applies for the marriage too.

The word “ru&#351;hden” in the verse means that the man and woman should be “Mature”.

Rushd: Ability of finding the right way.
Reshid: The person who shows the right way to others.
Rashid: The person who has the capacity of finding the right way.
Murshid: The person who educates, teaches.

The bride price (Mehir),is the money or wealth given by the man to the woman when getting married according to the Islamic Laws. The bride price is given directly to the woman, not to her family. According to the verse mentioned above, the period when the wealth is given to its owner is the period when the person can manage that wealth. So the woman who gets the bride price should be mature enough to control it.

The claims regarding that Aisha got married when she was 6-9 years old do not comply with the marriage period stated in Quran. The marriage period stated in Quran complies with the age restriction mentioned in our current Civil Law. Besides, Buhari who is one of the owners of the sources where Aisha’s age has been stated lived 238 years later than our Prophet, Muslim 243 years later, Tirmizi 260 years later, Ebu Davud 256 years later, Nesai 238 years later, &#304;bn-i Mace 263 years later. The age of Aisha is mentioned in some sources as 6, in some as 9 and in some others as 18. The reference regarding marriage age is Quran. Quran mentions the necessity of mental maturity for marriage.

But some of the atheists who ignore this true fact, claim that the term ‘’that does not menstruate’’ in Talak Surah 4th Verse refers to a child.

”If you hesitate regarding the delay period of the women who do not menstruate (due to menopause period), their delay period is three months. Same period applies for those who do not menstruate. The delay period of pregnant women ends when they give birth to their children. Allah helps those who respect Him and refrain from opposing Him.”(Talak, 4)

It says that the delay period of women who do not menstruate or are in menopause period is 3 months. Why waiting for 3 months? To determine if she is pregnant or not. Can the child who does not menstruate become pregnant? No. Then no need to wait for 3 months. The woman who is pregnant does not menstruate. But it takes a while to determine her pregnancy. The delay period for the women in this state is 3 months. The woman whose pregnancy is certain waits until birth.

The term ‘vellailemyahidne’ which is translated as girls who do not menstruate in the interpretations medically means “sekonderamenore”. It refers to the women who have medical menstruation problems (the woman who does not menstruate for any reason during 3 months or more).

The term of “not menstruated yet” that we read in some of the interpretations is not mentioned in the 4th Verse of Talak Surah. In order to say not menstruated yet the term ”ellaaiii lemma yahidne ” should be mentioned.

Lem: Will never happen, or never happened before.
Lemma: Not happened yet but will happen.

The word ‘’Nisa’’ mentioned in the verse is used for mature women. If the person who does not menstruate were a child then the terms ”Vildan, Veled, Benat…” should have been used. But the word ‘’Nisa’’ which stands for mature women is used in the Verse.

As a result, Quran does not allow child marriage. Such wrong applications are favored by societies that are far from Quran. The atheists and fanatics claim that Islam allows child marriage due to translations made wrong intentionally. Children are living beings that need compassion. Nobody can find proofs from Quran supporting their pervert ideas.

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Again:

Everyone is free to believe what they wish, according to Quran. This is the goal of the test world. To confront yourself.

Quran only allows a war of defense.

If you read the full of the verses, you will always see the struggle with the attackers in the defense battle.

Example;

2:190 Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress, God does not like the aggressors.

2:191 Fight them wherever you meet them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. Do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then fight them. Thus is the reward of those who do not appreciate.

2:192 If they cease, then God is Forgiving, Compassionate.

2:193 Fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is God's. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.

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Here again, He says, fight with the attackers.

But if you pull out a single verse. You make it look like saying the opposite.

And look at:

49:9 And if two parties of believers battle with each other, you shall reconcile them; but if one of them aggresses against the other, then you shall fight the one aggressing until it complies with the command of God. Once it complies, then you shall reconcile the two groups with justice, and be equitable; for God loves those who are equitable.

As you can see saying, if the attackers are Muslims, stop them too.
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My Turkish article translated with machine:

Quran abolished slavery

And the subject of slavery is constantly being asked and discussed. Although some authors have made necessary explanations on this subject, I thought I would mention it.

The Qur'an forbade slavery and declared that people are equal.

As stated in the Qur'an, even the prophets do not have the authority to take slaves. Servitude-slavery to something other than Allah, that is, created is one of the greatest sins:

Zumer
29. GOD gives the example of a man with conflicting partners and a man who is dependent on a single person. Will these two ever be equal? Praise is to GOD. But many do not know.

(Man has only one master, and that is our Lord. Servitude-slavery to anyone other than the Almighty Creator is shirk, and in this verse, those who serve only Allah and those who are created are compared with an example. And it is stated that these two are not the same.)

Religion They have taken the scholars, the priests, and the Messiah, son of Mary, as lords (masters) after GOD. However, they were commanded to serve only one God. There is no god but Him. He is Higher than those whom he associates with. (

9:31 ) Say: 'People of the Books! Come to a principle that is the same between us and you: that we should not serve anyone but Allah, and that we should not associate anything with Him, and that neither of us should take the other as lords after Allah. ` If they do not accept, `bear witness, we are Muslims! say. (3: 64)

Surah Ali Imran
Verse 79: No one to whom Allah has given the book, knowledge and prophethood has the authority to stand up and say to people: "Be a servant to me, not to Allah". But: "Become the soldiers of Allah's way because you are teaching the book and taking lessons!" says.

Surah Hud Verse 2: That is, do not be a servant to anyone but Allah! I am a prophet sent by Him to give good news and warn you!

Surah Anbiya,
Verse 98: "You and those you serve as slaves besides Allah are the firewood of Hell. You will all enter there."

No Muslim could acquire slaves after the religion of Islam (the periods when true Islam in the Qur'an was practiced). But the cessation of slaves from the period of ignorance took place step by step. The verses command the release of the slaves in the smallest thing, financial assistance to them, and getting them married if the age has come. For example:

5 Maide Surah
89 GOD does not hold you responsible for your random oaths. However, it holds you accountable for what you knowingly do. If you break your oath, the punishment is to feed or clothe ten poor people from the food you usually feed your family, or release a slave. Whoever cannot find it should fast for three days. This is the punishment for your willful oaths. Keep your vows. This is how Allah explains His verses so that you may respond well.

BELED
12. Do you know what the hard way is?
13. To liberate slaves;


It is clearly stated that even prisoners of war cannot be enslaved.

"When you finally prevail, take them captive; release them either free of charge or for ransom. Apply this until the war situation is over. "(47-4)

Allah, with a slave who has no power and is the property of someone else, secretly and openly from the beautiful sustenance We have given him. He gives as an example the one who spends in the way of Allah. Are they ever equal? Praise be to Allah, but most of them do not know. (Nahl 75)

Here again, a person who serves other than Allah is compared with a free person who serves only Allah, and slavery is condemned. We also see in the verse that wealth is held above poverty. These and similar verses indicate that servitude should only be against Allah.

And in fact, in a religion where even stealing is prohibited, slavery, that is, stealing human freedom, is completely abolished.

Think about it, while it is forbidden to even take a person's car or pen without permission, it is highly prohibited to acquire a slave by stealing that person's self.

In other words, if you cannot take even one item of a person without permission, it means that you cannot make that person a slave to you by force.

And again, as stated in the verses, since all people are free to believe and live as they wish, slavery is prohibited in the religion of Islam, due to the world of testing.

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you have been debunked and you are a verified liar. This is nothing but islamic deception in a futile attempt to promote islam, as i proved over, and when you KNOW islam promote pedophilia after i put away all doubt if there was any with my post, you are still trying to make some "point" here by bumping up yourself. Heres why you do what you do:

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John 8:44

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

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Quran abolished slavery

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Short article on the islamic slavetrade:

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My Turkish article translated with machine:

Quran abolished slavery

And the subject of slavery is constantly being asked and discussed. Although some authors have made necessary explanations on this subject, I thought I would mention it.

The Qur'an forbade slavery and declared that people are equal.

As stated in the Qur'an, even the prophets do not have the authority to take slaves. Servitude-slavery to something other than Allah, that is, created is one of the greatest sins:

Zumer
29. GOD gives the example of a man with conflicting partners and a man who is dependent on a single person. Will these two ever be equal? Praise is to GOD. But many do not know.

(Man has only one master, and that is our Lord. Servitude-slavery to anyone other than the Almighty Creator is shirk, and in this verse, those who serve only Allah and those who are created are compared with an example. And it is stated that these two are not the same.)

Religion They have taken the scholars, the priests, and the Messiah, son of Mary, as lords (masters) after GOD. However, they were commanded to serve only one God. There is no god but Him. He is Higher than those whom he associates with. (

9:31 ) Say: 'People of the Books! Come to a principle that is the same between us and you: that we should not serve anyone but Allah, and that we should not associate anything with Him, and that neither of us should take the other as lords after Allah. ` If they do not accept, `bear witness, we are Muslims! say. (3: 64)

Surah Ali Imran
Verse 79: No one to whom Allah has given the book, knowledge and prophethood has the authority to stand up and say to people: "Be a servant to me, not to Allah". But: "Become the soldiers of Allah's way because you are teaching the book and taking lessons!" says.

Surah Hud Verse 2: That is, do not be a servant to anyone but Allah! I am a prophet sent by Him to give good news and warn you!

Surah Anbiya,
Verse 98: "You and those you serve as slaves besides Allah are the firewood of Hell. You will all enter there."

No Muslim could acquire slaves after the religion of Islam (the periods when true Islam in the Qur'an was practiced). But the cessation of slaves from the period of ignorance took place step by step. The verses command the release of the slaves in the smallest thing, financial assistance to them, and getting them married if the age has come. For example:

5 Maide Surah
89 GOD does not hold you responsible for your random oaths. However, it holds you accountable for what you knowingly do. If you break your oath, the punishment is to feed or clothe ten poor people from the food you usually feed your family, or release a slave. Whoever cannot find it should fast for three days. This is the punishment for your willful oaths. Keep your vows. This is how Allah explains His verses so that you may respond well.

BELED
12. Do you know what the hard way is?
13. To liberate slaves;


It is clearly stated that even prisoners of war cannot be enslaved.

"When you finally prevail, take them captive; release them either free of charge or for ransom. Apply this until the war situation is over. "(47-4)

Allah, with a slave who has no power and is the property of someone else, secretly and openly from the beautiful sustenance We have given him. He gives as an example the one who spends in the way of Allah. Are they ever equal? Praise be to Allah, but most of them do not know. (Nahl 75)

Here again, a person who serves other than Allah is compared with a free person who serves only Allah, and slavery is condemned. We also see in the verse that wealth is held above poverty. These and similar verses indicate that servitude should only be against Allah.

And in fact, in a religion where even stealing is prohibited, slavery, that is, stealing human freedom, is completely abolished.

Think about it, while it is forbidden to even take a person's car or pen without permission, it is highly prohibited to acquire a slave by stealing that person's self.

In other words, if you cannot take even one item of a person without permission, it means that you cannot make that person a slave to you by force.

And again, as stated in the verses, since all people are free to believe and live as they wish, slavery is prohibited in the religion of Islam, due to the world of testing.

Peace
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The Quran completely abolishes slavery. So it suddenly removes it without a phase.

However, since non-Muslim slave owners and non-Muslim countries do not abandon their slaves, the liberation of those slaves by Muslims involves stages/times.

The slave emancipation desired in the verses is the stage of freeing the slaves of non-Muslims from them.

Already, Muslims cannot acquire slaves, nor can they become slaves.
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Also, in the Quran there is no headscarf, circumcision, stoning to death, communism, black stone, asceticism, spirit world and holy people, but these pagan practices are in the false Bible.

So today Muslims live like Christians, whereas Christians live like Muslims.





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