I’ll Probably Get A Lot Of Backlash For Saying This, BUT WHEN WOMEN STARTED WORKING OUTSIDE THE HOME, Society Started To FALL APART!

Great post OP. I think you're absolutely right.

I like what you're saying, but my wife and I both worked, and we did all those things. You just can't whip out, Both husband and wife need to participate in everything, and not be a dysfunctional family...

Good that OP keyed on 1970. That is when these cultural changes were intentionally fostered upon America to tear it down. Born in 1962 and lived thru the transformation decade by decade. Too many examples to list but the "programming" has been non-stop in all aspects of daily life since then.
Great Post OP,once you "wake up" to these things, you go thru life trying to protect yourself from it.

That’s why even though we’re only in our late 20s and everyone our age thinks we’re weird were doing it the old fashioned way. I work, she takes care of the kids and the house. That seemed to work a lot better than what we’re doing now.

It's a nice sentiment. Horse left the barn a long time ago though and it's way down yonder. I need my food, water and shelter but I don't need anything beyond that. You can survive just fine solo. There may be gems out there but the minefield you need to traverse through to find it ain't worth the risk, especially once you have established stability in your life and in your self worth. Plus I don't trust how I pick them, and that's only after 2 picks.

My mother was able to stay home for the most part when I was young. She did start a successful thrift shop with one of her friends, but she only stayed on for a year or so. There were fights between my parents and sometimes it got physical, and in front of me. But they both managed their way through those times. I remember the debates about women's lib and how stereotypical my dad would treat my mom. She had the patience of a saint with him but she had her limits too. She was a very nurturing sort of mother and very spiritually minded. My dad is one of those leathery tough guy types. He was in street gangs as a teenager and a bar room brawler. His work was his priority when I was growing up and he developed a great reputation as a foreman, despite his rebel tendencies. She is my mentor for how to handle the inner reality with patience and virtue and he is my mentor for how to handle the outer world with toughness and individuality. I really looked up to both of them, so my personality reflects them both.

Nowadays? My mother had a severe stroke about 14 years ago, losing most of her ability to speak and her mobility as well. And my father has taken care of her everyday in those 14 years. My sisters and I have tried so many times to convince him to get help, but he will not have it. He takes care of the house. He makes all the meals. He does all the cleaning. All the things my mother used to do, he does. He's completely transformed from his chauvinistic ways. With how things turned out, it makes me wonder if it's karma at play you know. But he's adapted beyond what I ever thought possible. You read about that sort of love, but to actually see it directly is such an inspiration, literally carrying one another in their golden years.




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Look - As I've said before my wife and I both worked, and we had a very successful family life; however, I've seen other couples who both worked, and were very unsuccessful at this. My analysis is that they were unsuccessful because of selfishness. Once they came home from work, it was all about them and not the children, or the family as a whole. Lets face it, there's a gap of only a few hours when the children are out of school, and when the parents are off of work. Today work is an inconvenience for people. All they give a crap about is their personal time off weather its in the evenings or the weekends. When you're not working to bring home a paycheck, you should be working to advance the home life. When I grew up weekends were for getting caught up on chores. Today weekends are for drinking and loud music. I see it everywhere in my neck of the woods. And BTW everything in the media promotes this. It's a recipe for disaster. I see laziness, self centeredness and a lack of a moral foundation as a root cause for a lot of this stuff...

there's a reason old societies were "patriarcal": eve / lilith myths are not so much "myths"
- women inflated the job market brought vages down (demand/offer), now 2 people are needed to get $ 1 used to got
- when in a position of power, use to abuse and be incompetent, just see what happened to IBM, GM and so many after "1st woman CEO" assumed
- zillions of toddlers left unnatended, unhealth 1st infancy leading to cognitive struggles after, easy and big electoral mass maneauver for demagogic politicians
- zillions of kids left unnatended, being brainwashed by the media, future voters for these demagogic policticians
- snowball along decades yet

Thank you so much op for your insight!

Homosexual!
men and women have been gay from Before we ware human.
animals have some of them being gay, just like humans.

as for women staying at home.
yes they should do this.
Men ARE stronger so should go out and hunt.
and yes women are starng to, but should stat at home.

it is difrent times now.
men dont need to kill dinosaurs.
women still need to look after the home and children.
Witch they Dont do!
I have be told by a teacher that when some kids start school they dont know how to use the toilet!!!!
you guess the rest. some Much for that mother.

when a kid starts school the kid should be able to Count Numbers and know the alphbet.

and NOT just play games on a moblie phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is a Bad mother ----

I've been publicly arguing most of those points, all my life, since at least the late sixties, but the arguments started getting hotter in the seventies and in college in the eighties.

It was always women screaming at me, mocking me, calling me names, and not permitting me to finish even one sentence in reply, after they screamed 10 questions at once at me.

Some women were silent, but not one woman ever spoke up in my defense. Not one woman even privately agreed with me, but some men did.

The men were always silent, being mostly afraid to speak. I think most of them were a little shocked by the raging violence of the women. I was used to girls screeching at me and attacking me. (My mother would encourage my little sister, by a year, to attack me with her nails. I had to go around as a kid with long, bloody scratches on my arms and face. When I complained, my mother would only laugh at me, and point to a Chinese picture of a dragon fighting with a tiger, and say that my sister was the dragon, and I was the tiger. I had to defeat the dragon. It wasn't like siblings on television, and I thought my mother was insane. But although I fought with boys all over the place, my mother wanted me to learn how to fight with girls. She would move in close, stare murder into my eyes, and swear that she would kill me if I hurt my sister. I wasn't allowed to fight back, only to defend myself, and neutralize the attacks. It was all very feminist. Women allowed to raise hell and men not allowed to stop it.)

I had wanted nothing more than a modest version of the American dream. A reasonably interesting job, a wife and children in a modest suburban house.

It fell apart because of the women. I could not find one woman who even liked me, and I knew I would need a woman who would home school the children, avoid vaccines, be happy without a TV, and she would have to be a woman strong enough to share my lifestyle, as an outsider at war with society.

I knew it was a lot to ask, or a lot to expect, so a woman would have to be madly in love with me and my ways. So many women hated me, and no women were stepping up. I considered it hopeless by the time I was 22 years old, long before the women of my generation would even think about marriage.

They were on their own mad journey, fornicating with one pathetic guy after another and learning to hate men. My argument to that was they were acting wrong and not pursuing serious relationships with serious men. I was serious, but women would panic if I even asked them if they planned to have children some day. It was something their magazines and television shows had distracted them from thinking about, but it was a central issue of life. A man would be wasting his time dating a woman if she had no intention of having children. It was an important thing to know from the start, and it clearly couldn't be taken for granted.

I can tell you this much personally. My whole life fell apart because I couldn't find a girlfriend. It was the top thing on my list, but without it, I didn't care what I did or how long I lived. It isn't one of those situations where you can build the nest and a woman will show up to fill it with children. A couple has to plan their life together. They have to work on their homestead together. They have to be charting a parallel life together from the start.

I knew I would be a drifter for as long as I was alone, because it is a man's fate. I would get restless if I worked in a place for a year or two, and found no girlfriend. I had to try another place, anything to find a woman. A man settles down when he finds a woman.

I had to take setbacks and spend through all my savings every time I moved. I was always going back to owning nothing and earning minimum wage. The jobs were always dead end service jobs, where if I accepted managerial responsibilities I got another dollar an hour, but I remained poor, living in spare, dank, basement rooms, and reading books to pass my time. No friends, a loner, and women hated me all the more.

Going against the current is slow death.

The only kind of attention I got from women was all the wrong kind of attention. Bad girls liked me, but they were very bad. They weren't capable of something as simple as love.

I could never turn the tide.

History seems to show that when a society gets this bad and crazy, this far departed from the basics of healthy life, it can't do anything but be destroyed.

Do you think you can convince anybody to be reasonable or sensible?

They are triggered to raging violence by the truth. I never met a woman, even the most miserable and depressed woman, who could admit that she had been doing anything wrong, making bad choices, etc., when she was complaining about men. I knew darned well that a woman would never repent, correct her thinking or behavior, and start doing things right if she was incapable of admitting that she had been doing wrong, thinking wrong, and living wrong. Any such suggestion, even on the most minor issues, would make a woman fly into a rage. I was once attacked by a woman for telling her at work that she needed to wash the tomatoes before slicing them. Who was I to tell her what to do? What difference did it make? And would she feed tomatoes like that to her children?

It was a world full of arrogant, contemptuous, raging female assholes.

I was eventually happy to be single.

Not one woman ever even came close to being a suitable wife.

I would seriously wonder how other men could tolerate their girlfriends and wives.

And every married man I knew envied me for being single.

[ /quote] Hey Dumbfuck...
When Men/Dads are no longer welcomed into the homes that their Children reside in... Because Mom wants to be a Ghetto Whore.. But Dad still has to pay for her Whoring Lifestyle...

Who the fuck wants to hang around for that.. it is better to go find a good woman and have kids with her..”




ME: I definitely think it is wrong when women don’t allow the father to see their own children.

That’s pure selfishness on the part of the mother. The children suffer for that.

Agree!

That IS inspirational

for reading this thread later.

Stopped working a month before I delivered my first child and didn't go back till after they all left home. No regrets whatsoever.

We aren’t all collapsing.

When women allowed strangers to nurture their infants and discipline children, the already fragmented family unit became a house filled with resentment and dysfunction.

And every married man I knew envied me for being single.

You’ve never met my husband then, ROLF…

I saw some good marriages, but they were rare - especially among the poor and working classes where I lived.

Hmmm...

Women in the workforce is a by-product of inflation.

The timing of the women’s lib movement coincides with the US$ being taken off the gold standard.

What people don’t realize is that once we begin to print money then extra bodies are needed in the workforce in order to assist with the circulation and “velocity” of money. A stagnant US$ is worse than inflation.

In essence, women were the original “illegal aliens” designed to circulate the US$ but also to suppress wage growth.

As we began printing more and more money (Quantitative Easing I and II) you will see that it directly coincides with the active promotion of open borders and amnesty for Mexicans.

Everything we see in the news, real or fake, is correlated to the activity of the US$, interest rates and inflation. Everything.

This needs to be repeated again and again.

FUCK feminism.

Feminists can burn in the lake of fire.

Imaging convincing most women they need a career, you double the labor supply, now you have twice the labor chasing the same jobs, salary is half, kids are being raised by the state, and some very very rich people had a good laugh watching the process play out.

Indeed, now make me a sammy

“Imaging convincing most women they need a career, you double the labor supply, now you have twice the labor chasing the same jobs, salary is half, kids are being raised by the state, and some very very rich people had a good laugh watching the process play out”


Yes, exactly.

It’s like dominos. Start the first one, and the rest follow.

It's true and the forces behind this needed to put women on the Supreme Ct to enable it. The federal government is within a conspiracy to establish a religion in USA and that religion is progressive liberal Satanism. Not everybody should have to follow it.

Taking prayer out of school and trying to remove the One True God from society was the real culprit- women working is a huge symptom.... Motherhood and being a godly (submissive) wife has by In large been rejected- but if you don’t believe in being rewarded on the other side - getting instant gratification (pay check) seems to make more sense.... Sad

Also add the Virginia Slim ads that encouraged women to smoke. I know this is what got me curious at 13.