I’ll Probably Get A Lot Of Backlash For Saying This, BUT WHEN WOMEN STARTED WORKING OUTSIDE THE HOME, Society Started To FALL APART!

I am sorry that was your experience, however, it is not everyone's experience.

OP not sure why my reply did not go through but here goes. Women have always had jobs. It was only a brief time period after WW2 where it was less common.

OP not sure why my reply did not go through but here goes. Women have always had jobs. It was only a brief time period after WW2 where it was less common.

OP not sure why my reply did not go through but here goes. Women have always had jobs. It was only a brief time period after WW2 where it was less common.

Why, just this morning I thought to myself, If I gave up my childless, active social/business life, my multimillion dollar home which I bought with my own goddamn money, my bought and paid for car which I again bought with my own money and without a man's help, and just become a dutiful little meek housewife and pop out babies constantly and submit to my husband, I'd be WAY happier.

Why, just this morning I thought to myself, If I gave up my childless, active social/business life, my multimillion dollar home which I bought with my own goddamn money, my bought and paid for car which I again bought with my own money and without a man's help, and just become a dutiful little meek housewife and pop out babies constantly and submit to my husband, I'd be WAY happier.

That's not true. If women had jobs, they worked in the home so they could also look after the kids. They did NOT go out to work when they had small children unless they were widows or had no other means of support. Jobs outside the home, where there were small children, WERE THE EXCEPTION. I'm old enough to remember this.

Men have no jobs. This is the whole problem... don't blame women.

On farms men always had a job.

That's not true. If women had jobs, they worked in the home so they could also look after the kids. They did NOT go out to work when they had small children unless they were widows or had no other means of support. Jobs outside the home, where there were small children, WERE THE EXCEPTION. I'm old enough to remember this.

But the type of job is the issue.

If you are single, then more power to you.

If you have children, your children need you is what I’m emphasizing and what I alluded to in my original starting post.

I’ll Probably Get A Lot Of Backlash For Saying This, BUT WHEN WOMEN STARTED WORKING OUTSIDE THE HOME, Society Started To FALL APART!
And now all hell is breaking loose it appears.

This isn’t an indictment against women, as I am a woman myself (see avatar) but after contemplating this subject, I think what I’m saying has a lot of validity.

You can agree or disagree.

These are just my thoughts on the matter.

Since the 1970’s, there has been an acceleration towards society’s decline

Since the 1970’s:

1) abortion was legalized (1973)
2) the feminist movement :” In 1971, feminist Gloria Steinem joined Betty Friedan and Bella Abzug in founding the National Women’s Political Caucus“
3) in the 70’s there was a push to get women working outside the home. This was pushed in the media via television shows such as “ The Mary TylerMoore Show” (1970-77) “ one Day At A Time” (1975-1984)
“ Alice” (1976-1985”,”Maude” (1972-78) and on and on.
4) Ms. Magazine was founded in 1972.
5) Divorce was made more acceptable in the 1970’s. No fault divorce came into effect in 1970.
6) Daycare for children started to become popular due to more women working outside the home
7) the use of ADHD drugs such as Ritalin became popular in the 1970’s and onward.
8) Explosion iof sexually transmitted diseases ( started in the late 60’s)
9) Pornography....we know how has exploded

There is definitely a correlation between the traditional family structure breaking down and society breaking down which has resulted in divorce, ADHD chiidren’s behavior, a growing disrespect between the sexes: women against men, and men against women.

While I am not saying that the “ Ozzie And Harriet” lifestyle is the one everyone should be living, as that was a manufactured Hollywood illusion anyway, what I am saying is that all these factors have contributed to a breakdown in society.

If you have women working outside the home, who’s watching the children?

SOMEBODY ELSE.

And our out of control children are a RESULT of the neglect we see in society today.

-Women who don’t know how to act like women...ie snowflakes, who DEMAND their rights but get no respect, tattoos, shaving their hair, sexually irresponsible etc.

-Men who turn to the homosexual lifestyle because they don’t have good male role models due to divorce
-men rejecting their role as providers ...lonely men who only find satisfaction in temporary sexual encounters but only crave more and more

All because Mom (and dad) are not there to instill his/his values into their children.
If mom is working a full time job too, BOTH parents are exhausted, so it be comes a tug of war between who does the chores, giving children supervision, baths, putting dinner on the table etc.etc. Etc. which leads to fighting, lack of sex, frustration

Which’s leads to a disordered home and eventually a broken home, divorce, unhappy children, unhappy parents. Unhappy society.

Personally, I know when I gave up a lucrative career in the fashion industry, over time I have seen the positive result of my choosing to become a stay at home mother. And a support to my husband.


I enjoy making him tasty meals that he likes and makes me feel appreciated when he likes them, for example.

Simple enough right? So simple we tend to dismiss these traditional things.

Having a clean well ordered home..who has the energy and time to have this when you are working a full time job outside the home?

Well fed disciplined children who understand right from wrong.

Yes, initially, we had to downsize. And sacrifice some of the extras we were enjoying.
But now my family is ABUNDANTLY blessed with more than we want or need. You make adjustments. And it works.

Who needs a McMansion and chasing after all the goodies when you PEACE and contentment?

I am happier than I have ever been. God has blessed my husband career more than ever and I am seeing the fruit of our discipline and sacrifice...

Hubby is blessed and feels respected because of his providing for the family.
I am not saying I am the poster child for domestic bliss, or that I am “all that”, because my hubby and I have had to work out and thru our differences. This takes time.

But in perspective, it has been time well invested and I wouldn’t want it any other way.
Basically, what I am saying is it can be done and if enough catch on to “going back to basics” we might see a lot happier, well adjusted people who contribute to society rather than tear it down.

And lest anyone thinks I am knocking my own sex, this thread is not addressed towards single women or divorced women, who, due to circumstances, have to work because the ex can’t or won’t pay child support and because they need to put food on the table...

No, this is addressed towards those who think chasing the almighty dollar is where it’s at...because it’s not...it only brings heartache when your career is your only friend, and you allow someone else to raise your own flesh and blood.

It’s heartache to you, and to your offspring. And to society.

The very best thing that could happen to our society is the DEATH OF FEMINISM (I say this AS a woman) and for women to LEAVE THE WORKPLACES AND GO HOME. If you have children, your place is at HOME taking care of and EDUCATING them in various ways, taking care of sick or elderly relatives and building a neighborhood. That is the role of women. AND IT WORKS.

How old must you be? WW2 ended 1945. To remember social norms before then you would need to be born 1935???

When domestic abuse was overlooked as something cops couldn't be involved, more women began working outside of the home.

I can't remember the TV show, but I do remember when the woman chose to remain single with a child and the word 'bastard' disappeared. "Shame" also disappeared.

I was born in the mid 50s to old parents. My father was born in 1911 and my grandfather in 1868. I'm old enough to remember that generation too. I grew up with people who were literally slaves in the Ottoman Empire and who fought the Easter Sunday rebellion in Ireland. It's not just me, it's who I grew up with. WOMEN DID NOT WORK OUTSIDE THE HOME if they had small children. In fact, it was considered somewhat shameful because it meant you did not have a husband who could support you.

Some women might do work IN the home, like sewing or cooking or piece meal work for others, but NOT outside until the kids were at least in high school and for middle class people THAT was unusual too.