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Christians, do you have the true gospel message?

 
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Also, if any believers out there have any doctrinal questions I will point you to what the Bible says if I am aware of the answer.
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Are God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit one being or three?
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This is the problem with systematic theology. They try to understand the infinite (God) with a finite mind, reasoning.

That means it's an idol. What is true, what is real is the Word of God. Jesus was God in the flesh, but also the only Begotten from the Father (the Son). His true essence is of the Holy Spirit. The Bible teaches us this.

But, we are also reborn of the same Holy Spirit. Meaning our eternal essence is of God Himself. Therefore Christ is not God's only Child, we are all Children of God if you are reborn of the Holy Spirit.

This is what a literal reading of the New Testament yields. Theology then puts that through a grid forcing the reader to interpret the scripture in a certain way.

There is the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit and the Body of Christ. We are part of the Body of Christ. We are Royalty. We are God's family as reborn Christians.
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Explain Isaiah 53.
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why? christians will believe it means what rome tells them it means.

anything I or anyone else says against that narrative will be declared as demonic, new age, ignorant and so forth and so on.
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You can't.

You know nothing..

That was your excuse...
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Since we love Yeshuah, let’s keep His commandments.

MmmmK?
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Behold, My Servant shall deal prudently;
He shall be exalted and extolled and be very high.

Just as many were astonished at you,
So His visage was marred more than any man,
And His form more than the sons of men;

So shall He sprinkle many nations.
Kings shall shut their mouths at Him;
For what had not been told them they shall see,
And what they had not heard they shall consider.

Who has believed our report?
And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?

For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant,
And as a root out of dry ground.
He has no form or comeliness;
And when we see Him,
There is no beauty that we should desire Him.

He is despised and rejected by men,
A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.
And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him;
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.

Surely He has borne our griefs
And carried our sorrows;
Yet we esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten by God, and afflicted.

But He was wounded for our transgressions,
He was bruised for our iniquities;
The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
And by His stripes we are healed.

All we like sheep have gone astray;
We have turned, every one, to his own way;
And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.

He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He opened not His mouth;
He was led as a lamb to the slaughter,
And as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
So He opened not His mouth.

He was taken from prison and from judgment,
And who will declare His generation?
For He was cut off from the land of the living;
For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.

And they made His grave with the wicked—
But with the rich at His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was any deceit in His mouth.

Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him;
He has put Him to grief.
When You make His soul an offering for sin,
He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days,
And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand.

He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied.
By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many,
For He shall bear their iniquities.

Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great,
And He shall divide the spoil with the strong,
Because He poured out His soul unto death,
And He was numbered with the transgressors,
And He bore the sin of many,
And made intercession for the transgressors.




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Explain Isaiah 53.
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why? christians will believe it means what rome tells them it means.

anything I or anyone else says against that narrative will be declared as demonic, new age, ignorant and so forth and so on.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


You can't.

You know nothing..

That was your excuse...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72351498


You need to understand the letters .... which make up the words to understand what is written. The words you see in english are about 5% of what is actually written.

It's a huge undertaking to actually take a verse and letter by letter decipher it. I have not done this with this chapter......

You wouldn't listen anyway. You much prefer your doctrine.
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1 Corinthians 2:10-11
no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.

Matthew 11:27 All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son desires to reveal Him.

The Son is the Spirit.

No "third person" involved in salvation.

No "trinity" in existence.

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You will not state the Good News Gospel of Jesus Christ either:
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Jesus Christ died for all mankind. But not all mankind accepts His message.

Not all will be saved.
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Also, the scriptures prove that God is triune in nature.
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Wrong, the Holy Spirit is a person, of the Triune being. Humans living in a limited dimensional existence do not comprehend how it works.

The Father is not the Son. The Father is fully God.
The Son is not the Father. The Son is fully God.
The Holy Spirit is not the Son. The Holy Spirit is fully God.
etc.

Each has their role.

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Holy, holy, holy

Lord God Almighty

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The New Testament warns that there are wrong gospels being preached. It also warns that the wrong Jesus is being preached. The true gospel message can be distilled into three fundamental components: Believe, repent, and follow Jesus.

The video below clearly, and simply teaches what those fundamental components mean:


 Quoting: Ears To Hear


Let me guess. Your church is the only true and right church. And everyone else is following Satan. I've heard that my whole life.
 Quoting: NDFarm


No, I have been warning people to flee the false church scheme for years. The book of Jeremiah states plainly that the flock will be scattered at the end of the age. The word of God is the standard.

Christians should be cultivating their relationship with God through study of His word, plain prayer (not mysticism), and walking out God's standard for living by His grace.
 Quoting: Ears To Hear


If you're going to a church you're following man not God. They are all corrupt.
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Re: Christians, do you have the true gospel message?
OP,

State the true gospel message.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72351498



According to Paul, his.
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Paul preached only Christ.
Anyone that hates Paul hates Christ.
You hate Paul...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72351498


The message of Christ is the Fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of Man. Paul's message is the resurrection of Christ. His Resurrection is historically factual, and misses the Gospel's message of Love. As for Paul himself, I don't hate him, but admittedly I'm not his biggest fan.
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Man is appointed mortal sorrow, but the Blessed God shall come down teaching that His death shall bring the despairing comfort.


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Chuck Missler was a great teacher. He’s the one who discovered that.
Probably the greatest teacher of the Bible in the last 150 years.

And he left the USA and died in a foreign nation because he knew this country was run by the Rothschild banking cartels.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75438626


I know. Studied everything he put out in the 90s and toured Israel with him in '96.
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I’m glad you know the truth.

I’ve recently re-studied all his work.
The guy was dead on perfect in his teachings.
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ADAM MEANS MAN

NOT HUMAN

TAKE THE NAME HUMAN

AND DIE
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If you're going to a church you're following man not God. They are all corrupt.
 Quoting: NDFarm


Thus sayeth you.

So what.

God said for us to gather together.

You don't believe God anyway...
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And Jesus didn’t “ban” people.

Just FYI.

He called a spade a spade and moved on.

He did however speak in parables.....
There is a point in the gospels where Jesus stopped speaking plainly and only spoke in parables because a certain “sect” of people were always looking to attack and destroy him and his message no matter how miraculous the miracles he performed. He referred to them as “Sons of the devil” and “a child of hell”.

He also did this because folks were only wanting the miracles and NOT the message of WHY there was a miracle.

When you “ban” someone your just a Communist. Also known as a Satanist.
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The Wickedness of Gospel Distorters


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Chuck Missler was a great teacher. He’s the one who discovered that.
Probably the greatest teacher of the Bible in the last 150 years.

And he left the USA and died in a foreign nation because he knew this country was run by the Rothschild banking cartels.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75438626


I know. Studied everything he put out in the 90s and toured Israel with him in '96.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72351498


I’m glad you know the truth.

I’ve recently re-studied all his work.
The guy was dead on perfect in his teachings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75438626


ADAM MEANS MAN

NOT HUMAN

TAKE THE NAME HUMAN

AND DIE
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I know. That’s how Missler taught it. He broke down every single word.
I didn’t watch the vid. I just assumed that’s what it said.
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Re: Christians, do you have the true gospel message?
PLEASE READ MY WORDS CAREFULLY:

1. You need to be baptized in the Name of "LORD JESUS CHRIST" NOT in the name of "Father, Son and Holy Spirit".

NOT as Jesus SAID, but as it was DONE by the apostles.

You have to be baptized in his name! Let me explain:

Father = LORD
Son = JESUS
Holy spirit = CHRIST

If you send a letter and write to: my father or my son, will this letter arrive?

You need to write the NAME!!!

LETS MAKE A DEAL!
If
you find only 1 example someone was baptized in the name
of "Father, Son and Holy Spirit" I come to where ever you are and let me baptize in the name of "Father, Son and Holy Spirit".
else
you let youself baptize in the Name of "LORD JESUS CHRIST"
OK?

2. Forget trinity. GOD is one! Let me explain:

LORD = GOD above us (Time = OT)
JESUS = GOD with us (Time = NT)
CHRIST = GOD in us (Time = after Pentecoast)

3. Get out of you denomination (Catholic, Pentecoastal, etc.)

Why?

All denominations are in the wourd church concil led by the catholic church/rome/vatican = great harlot

I do not judge the people who are part of it, but do you really want to be part of the great harlot?

Learn more here:
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PLEASE READ MY WORDS CAREFULLY:

1. You need
 Quoting: Cudilicious2


What do you need?
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You will not state the Good News Gospel of Jesus Christ either:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72351498


Jesus Christ died for all mankind. But not all mankind accepts His message.

Not all will be saved.
 Quoting: Very Interesting


Yes, so Jesus created the law that says you must believe in him, or he will have you burn for eternity.

and we know this is true, because the bible says it is true. And we know the bible is true, because it says it is.
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Also, if any believers out there have any doctrinal questions I will point you to what the Bible says if I am aware of the answer.
 Quoting: Ears To Hear


THE GOOD NEWS IS TO ALL CREATION IT IS ABOUT CHRIST DYING FOR NOT ONLY OUR SINS BUT BEING THE ATONEMENT FOR THE SIBS OF THE WHOLE WORLD MEANING ALSO FOR UNBELIEVERS WHO DO NOT BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST
THIS IS PROVEN WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND EXACTLY What is
the gospel Paul recieved and preached?
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OP,

State the true gospel message.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72351498



According to Paul, his.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78883105

Paul preached only Christ.
Anyone that hates Paul hates Christ.
You hate Paul...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72351498


The message of Christ is the Fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of Man. Paul's message is the resurrection of Christ. His Resurrection is historically factual, and misses the Gospel's message of Love. As for Paul himself, I don't hate him, but admittedly I'm not his biggest fan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78883105

Did Jesus Christ die for YOU?
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The New Testament warns that there are wrong gospels being preached. It also warns that the wrong Jesus is being preached. The true gospel message can be distilled into three fundamental components: Believe, repent, and follow Jesus.

The video below clearly, and simply teaches what those fundamental components mean:


 Quoting: Ears To Hear


Let me guess. Your church is the only true and right church. And everyone else is following Satan. I've heard that my whole life.
 Quoting: NDFarm


No, I have been warning people to flee the false church scheme for years. The book of Jeremiah states plainly that the flock will be scattered at the end of the age. The word of God is the standard.

Christians should be cultivating their relationship with God through study of His word, plain prayer (not mysticism), and walking out God's standard for living by His grace.
 Quoting: Ears To Hear


If you're going to a church you're following man not God. They are all corrupt.
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JESUS CHRIST SAID

WHERE TWO OR MORE ARE GATHERED

THAT IS MY CHURCH
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JESUS CHRIST SAID

WHERE TWO OR MORE ARE GATHERED

THAT IS MY CHURCH
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No, He didn't.

He said "There I am in the midst of them."

The church is us. Believers are"the church".
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and we know this is true, because the bible says it is true. And we know the bible is true, because it says it is.
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Verse?
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There's no "third person" or "trinity" or "triune god".
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That's what the cultists of Arianism teach, for example the Jehovah's Witnesses and LDS/Momons. They deny the full divinity of Chist.

A simple explanation:



RC Sproul goes in further detail:


John 3:16
Romans 3:23
Romans 5:8
Romans 10:9-10
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JESUS CHRIST SAID

WHERE TWO OR MORE ARE GATHERED

THAT IS MY CHURCH
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No, He didn't.

He said "There I am in the midst of them."

The church is us. Believers are"the church".
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Yes churches of stone are not the church
They are buildings
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I know. Studied everything he put out in the 90s and toured Israel with him in '96.
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I’m glad you know the truth.

I’ve recently re-studied all his work.
The guy was dead on perfect in his teachings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75438626


ADAM MEANS MAN

NOT HUMAN

TAKE THE NAME HUMAN

AND DIE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73797654


I know. That’s how Missler taught it. He broke down every single word.
I didn’t watch the vid. I just assumed that’s what it said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75438626


HE DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE WORD HUMAN

THAT IS WHAT THE LORD TOLD ME
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There's no "third person" or "trinity" or "triune god".
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That's what the cultists of Arianism teach, for example the Jehovah's Witnesses and LDS/Momons. They deny the full divinity of Chist.

A simple explanation:



RC Sproul goes in further detail:


 Quoting: Jahfree


Nice masonic checkerboard symbolism with these false teachers.

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and we know this is true, because the bible says it is true. And we know the bible is true, because it says it is.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

Verse?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72351498


ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh so are you saying this is a man-made doctrine?





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