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Christians, do you have the true gospel message?

 
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You tell me, as I have taught you how many gospels there are previously
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There's ONE Gospel.
Calling me names doesn't change scripture.

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You tell me, as I have taught you how many gospels there are previously
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There's ONE Gospel.
Calling me names doesn't change scripture.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD



Galatians 1:7 calls you that name.
Read it, son:

"Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ."
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How many Gospels are there?
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You tell me, as I have taught you how many gospels there are previously
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There's ONE Gospel.
Calling me names doesn't change scripture.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD



Galatians 1:7 calls you that name.
Read it, son:

"Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ."
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In fact, the entire book of Galatians calls you out.

You ought to read it, you Paul hater.
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There's ONE Gospel.
Calling me names doesn't change scripture.
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Galatians 1:7 calls you that name.
Read it, son:

"Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

In fact, the entire book of Galatians calls you out.

You ought to read it, you Paul hater.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

You're retarded.

Thread: One Gospel - Or Multiple Gospels - KJV Bible Study

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"gospel of the kingdom" occurs 4 times in 4 verses in the KJV.

"gospel of God" occurs 7 times in 7 verses in the KJV.

"gospel of Christ" occurs 11 times in 11 verses in the KJV.

10 other "gospel of"

- gospel of Jesus Christ
- gospel of the grace of God
- gospel of his Son
- gospel of peace - 2 times
- gospel of the uncircumcision
- gospel of the circumcision
- gospel of your salvation
- gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ
- gospel of the blessed God

18 various "_____ gospel" (words other than 'the")

- this gospel - 3 times
- my gospel - 3 times
- Christ's gospel
- our gospel - 3 times
- glorious gospel - 2 times
- another gospel - 2 times
- other gospel - 2 times
- that gospel
- everlasting gospel
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You ought to read it, you Paul hater.
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Paul 'hater'??? 1rof1

Thread: To Understand Paul - His Letters Don't Tell Us All of What He Originally Preached - Bible Study

Thread: Paul Taught Repentance - Gospel - KJV Bible Study

Thread: Paul Taught the 10 Commandments - Gospel - Bible Study
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There's ONE Gospel.
Calling me names doesn't change scripture.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD

Galatians 1:7 calls you that name.
Read it, son:

"Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

In fact, the entire book of Galatians calls you out.

You ought to read it, you Paul hater.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

You're retarded.

Thread: One Gospel - Or Multiple Gospels - KJV Bible Study

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"gospel of the kingdom" occurs 4 times in 4 verses in the KJV.

"gospel of God" occurs 7 times in 7 verses in the KJV.

"gospel of Christ" occurs 11 times in 11 verses in the KJV.

10 other "gospel of"

- gospel of Jesus Christ
- gospel of the grace of God
- gospel of his Son
- gospel of peace - 2 times
- gospel of the uncircumcision
- gospel of the circumcision
- gospel of your salvation
- gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ
- gospel of the blessed God

18 various "_____ gospel" (words other than 'the")

- this gospel - 3 times
- my gospel - 3 times
- Christ's gospel
- our gospel - 3 times
- glorious gospel - 2 times
- another gospel - 2 times
- other gospel - 2 times
- that gospel
- everlasting gospel
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD



What about 'another Gospel'?

You know, the one you preach ... the false gospel.


"I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ."


Again, in the book of Galatians ... you know, the book you don't read or understand.
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You ought to read it, you Paul hater.
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Paul 'hater'???
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Have you read the book yet?

"(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day."
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.....Have you read the book yet?
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I've read 4 different translations of the Bible 'cover to cover' - including the 1611 KJV Red Letter twice.

'Paul Only for gentiles' is bad theology.
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.....Have you read the book yet?
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I've read 4 different translations of the Bible 'cover to cover' - including the 1611 KJV Red Letter twice.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD



And unfortunately you have learned very little of the Grace of God.

Why do you pervert the Gospel of Jesus Christ with your man made rules?
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And unfortunately you have learned very little of the Grace of God.

Why do you pervert the Gospel of Jesus Christ with your man made rules?
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There's only ONE Gospel that gets preached....

Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

.....

Jesus isn't the 'author' of Salvation.

The Father SENT Jesus and TOLD Him what to say.

John 12:49-50 & Revelation 1:1

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.


Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

.....

Thread: Hebrews 12:2 Embellishes Jesus as "Author" - Yet the Plan for Salvation is Father God's - Bible Study
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And unfortunately you have learned very little of the Grace of God.

Why do you pervert the Gospel of Jesus Christ with your man made rules?
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There's only ONE Gospel that gets preached....
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You clearly do not understand what the word 'gospel' means.

From the Greek word euaggelion, it means simply 'good tidings' or 'good news'.

The Lord Jesus Christ preached the Gospel of the Kingdom.
[see Matthew 4:23 and Matthew 10:5-7]
The Gospel of the Kingdom has to do with the person of the Messiah, the coming King and was addressed to Israel ONLY.


The Gospel of God's Grace was preached primarily by the Apostle Paul. [see Acts 15:11, Acts 20:24, Ephesians 3:1-6] This Gospel is addressed to all sinners without distinction, offering to them a Savior .. not a King and a Kingdom. You see how these first two differ?
This is the Gospel we must believe today in order to be saved.


Another Gospel, which is really no gospel at all.
This is the false gospel which you preach.
[See 2 Corinthians 11:3-4 and Galatians 1:6-7]
It is preached by false prophets like you .. adding works and religious ritualism to create a different gospel. [See Galatians 1:8 and 2:16, 2 John 1:10-11]


The Everlasting Gospel is the message of Revelation 14 and is addressed to the endtimes earth dwellers just before God's Wrath is poured out.
The Everlasting Gospel is precisely this: 'Fear God and give Glory to Him: For the hour of His Judgement is come'

The Everlasting Gospel is neither the Gospel of Grace nor the Gospel of the Kingdom, but rather the good news that God is about to establish His sovereignty over the world.



How can one preach the death, burial and resurrection of Christ BEFORE IT HAPPENS? Jesus never preached the Gospel of the Grace of God. He preached the Gospel of the King and His Kingdom are AT HAND ... just like John the Baptist.
You don't just lump all Gospels together into ONE. That is poor biblical scholarship.
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You clearly do not understand what the word 'gospel' means.

From the Greek word euaggelion, it means simply 'good tidings' or 'good news'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

Really?

THE Gospel is God's plan for Salvation for ALL who are either 'chosen' OR decide to CHOOSE to Believe.

Father God speaks of reconciling the Gentiles back to Himself several times in the Old Testament. Jesus BROUGHT the 'plan' to Earth.

Thread: Elect / Chosen - AND Those Who CHOOSE to Believe - Bible Study

Why did Paul constantly return to Jerusalem? Part of the reason was to compare notes. He taught the SAME Gospel as the others.

Thread: The Gospel - Basic Teachings of Jesus (amd Paul) for Salvation - KJV Bible Study

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The Lord Jesus Christ preached the Gospel of the Kingdom.
[see Matthew 4:23 and Matthew 10:5-7]
The Gospel of the Kingdom has to do with the person of the Messiah, the coming King and was addressed to Israel ONLY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


Utter NONSENSE.

Jesus sent the Apostles to 'all the nations / world'.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Matthew 26:13 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her.

Mark 14:9 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached throughout the whole world, this also that she hath done shall be spoken of for a memorial of her.

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

.....

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them....

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
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The Gospel of God's Grace was preached primarily by the Apostle Paul. [see Acts 15:11, Acts 20:24, Ephesians 3:1-6] This Gospel is addressed to all sinners without distinction, offering to them a Savior .. not a King and a Kingdom. You see how these first two differ?
This is the Gospel we must believe today in order to be saved.
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Paul didn't 'invent' the idea of Grace. It has existed since Cain killed Abel - God didn't kill cain.

Thread: Grace - Biblical Context and Usage - A Deeper Look - Bible Study
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Another Gospel, which is really no gospel at all.
This is the false gospel which you preach.
[See 2 Corinthians 11:3-4 and Galatians 1:6-7]
It is preached by false prophets like you .. adding works and religious ritualism to create a different gospel. [See Galatians 1:8 and 2:16, 2 John 1:10-11]
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'Another gospel' refers to a False Gospel being taught by false teachers who weren't disciples of Jesus.

Period.

If Paul and the others weren't on the same page there would have been NO contact between them.
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The Everlasting Gospel is the message of Revelation 14 and is addressed to the endtimes earth dwellers just before God's Wrath is poured out.
The Everlasting Gospel is precisely this: 'Fear God and give Glory to Him: For the hour of His Judgement is come'

The Everlasting Gospel is neither the Gospel of Grace nor the Gospel of the Kingdom, but rather the good news that God is about to establish His sovereignty over the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

More nonsense. No scripture backs up ANY of your explanations.

Multiple Gospels? Funny that the plural word isn't in the KJV

The word "gospels" occurs 0 time in 0 verses in The New Testament in the KJV.

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How can one preach the death, burial and resurrection of Christ BEFORE IT HAPPENS? Jesus never preached the Gospel of the Grace of God. He preached the Gospel of the King and His Kingdom are AT HAND ... just like John the Baptist.
You don't just lump all Gospels together into ONE. That is poor biblical scholarship.
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Because Jesus didn't send them out 'to all nations / world' until after His Resurrection.

The Apostles started teaching when Jesus died - 30 AD.

Paul didn't take his first 'trip' to establish churches until around 50 AD - 20 years later.

Paul's travels, as documented in the (KJV) Book of Acts, show us that EVERYWHERE Paul went - he went to the synagogues FIRST.

This also proves that Paul had the same Gospel as the other Apostles, who were to preach "to the world".

Damascus Acts 9:20
Salamis Acts 13:5
Antioch Acts 13:14
Iconium Acts 14:1
Thessalonica Acts 17:1
Berea Acts 17:10
Athens Acts 17:16
Corinth Acts 18:4
Ephesus Acts 18:19
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How can one preach the death, burial and resurrection of Christ BEFORE IT HAPPENS? Jesus never preached the Gospel of the Grace of God. He preached the Gospel of the King and His Kingdom are AT HAND ... just like John the Baptist.
You don't just lump all Gospels together into ONE. That is poor biblical scholarship.
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Because Jesus didn't send them out 'to all nations / world' until after His Resurrection.

The Apostles started teaching when Jesus died - 30 AD.

Paul didn't take his first 'trip' to establish churches until around 50 AD - 20 years later.

Paul's travels, as documented in the (KJV) Book of Acts, show us that EVERYWHERE Paul went - he went to the synagogues FIRST.

This also proves that Paul had the same Gospel as the other Apostles, who were to preach "to the world".

Damascus Acts 9:20
Salamis Acts 13:5
Antioch Acts 13:14
Iconium Acts 14:1
Thessalonica Acts 17:1
Berea Acts 17:10
Athens Acts 17:16
Corinth Acts 18:4
Ephesus Acts 18:19
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You said the SAME GOSPEL has always been preached ... from Abraham to today. ONE GOSPEL.

That is wrong. That is a lie.

There have been other Gospels in other times.

For example, the Gospel of the Kingdom was preached by Jesus Christ in the flesh .. He could not have preached death, burial and resurrection for it had not yet happened.

Besides, the Apostles did not understand death, burial and resurrection before it happened:

Luke 18:31-34
"Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.
For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.
And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken."

Not until Paul was taught the Gospel of the Grace of God by the Risen Christ Himself did the Gospel message change.

Romans 2:16
"In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel."

Romans 16:25
"Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,"

2Timothy 2:8
"Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel"


How does it feel to be wrong and be schooled by the Word of God (Jesus Christ)????
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Luke 18:31-34
"Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.

For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.

And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken."

Not until Paul....
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Luke 18 is pre-Resurrection...

...BEFORE Jesus SENT them out

to preach TO THE WORLD.

That's why they didn't understand at that point.

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You said the SAME GOSPEL has always been preached ... from Abraham to today. ONE GOSPEL.
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Gospel 'from Abraham'????

Show me where I said any such thing.

Jesus was TOLD the Gospel by the Father.

The Father merely talked about reconciling the Gentiles back to Himself at some future time.

Jesus brought the plan from the Father.

The word "gentiles" occurs 30 times in 30 verses in the Old Testament in the KJV.

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Luke 18:31-34
"Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.

For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.

And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken."

Not until Paul....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

Luke 18 is pre-Resurrection...

...BEFORE Jesus SENT them out

to preach TO THE WORLD.

That's why they didn't understand at that point.
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It's because at that point they only understood the Gospel of the Kingdom, as preached by Jesus.

AND therefore .. there is more than one Gospel, depending upon the time and events involved.

So you admit now that there is more than ONE gospel ...
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You said the SAME GOSPEL has always been preached ... from Abraham to today. ONE GOSPEL.
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Gospel 'from Abraham'????

Show me where I said any such thing.

Jesus was TOLD the Gospel by the Father.

The Father merely talked about reconciling the Gentiles back to Himself at some future time.

Jesus brought the plan from the Father.

The word "gentiles" occurs 30 times in 30 verses in the Old Testament in the KJV.

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You said there is ONE GOSPEL and no more.

There are 4 Gospels mentioned in the Word of God.

I have proved it to you in the Scriptures.



Jesus IS God, therefore in His Divinity He knows ALL Things.

In His veiled form as a human, He lived generally under the limitations of a human to show us how to trust God.
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You said there is ONE GOSPEL and no more.

There are 4 Gospels mentioned in the Word of God.
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4 Gospels, yup.

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

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You FAIL again Rastus.

The Gospel - meaning ONE

The Gospel - according to - Matthew
The Gospel - according to - Mark
The Gospel - according to - Luke
The Gospel - according to - John

WHERE is Paul's "gospel"?

The plural word "gospels" is NEVER used in the KJV.

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See what I mean?
Sidesteps the question of one or more than one gospel by stupidity.

He is clearly mentioned here in 2Peter 3:16

"as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures."




You said there is ONE GOSPEL and no more.

There are 4 Gospels mentioned in the Word of God.
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4 Gospels, yup.

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

The LORD pay you back in kind for your persecution of the Truth.
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You FAIL again Rastus.

The Gospel - meaning ONE

The Gospel - according to - Matthew
The Gospel - according to - Mark
The Gospel - according to - Luke
The Gospel - according to - John

WHERE is Paul's "gospel"?

The plural word "gospels" is NEVER used in the KJV.

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