This is insane! FDA: Do not use antibody tests to assess immunity after COVID-19 vaccination | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80391409 France 05/21/2021 02:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are crazy! [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] Antibody testing is not currently recommended to assess for immunity to COVID-19 following COVID-19 vaccination or to assess the need for vaccination in an unvaccinated person. Since vaccines induce antibodies to specific viral protein targets, post-vaccination serologic test results will be negative in persons without history of previous natural infection if the test used does not detect antibodies induced by the vaccine. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79573678 Australia 05/21/2021 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that's because the vax doesn't provide immunity and they don't want to be called out for it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79573678 the test does not detect the type of antibodies induced by the vaccine, the FDA said. They are totally paranoid!, what the heck! i'd be surprised if it induces any type of antibodies, they know they are being deceitful by calling it a "vaccine". this latest news is just a continuation of their deceit. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80391409 France 05/21/2021 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... in humans and non-human primates suggest SARS-CoV-2 infection and development of antibody can result in some level of protection against SARS-CoV-2 reinfection. The durability of this immunity has yet to be determined Vaccination Natural SARS-CoV-2 infection results in antibody development against viral proteins including the N and S proteins, including the RBD of the S protein. Vaccine induced antibody development has implications for serologic testing. Before vaccine introduction, a SARS-CoV-2 serologic test that detects any of the N, S or RBD antibodies could be considered to indicate previous exposure to SARS-CoV-2. With the introduction of vaccine, vaccinated persons may test positive by serologic tests for the vaccine antigenic target (S and S subunits, including RBD) but not against other non-target proteins. Thus, history of vaccination and/or prior SARS-CoV-2 infection must be considered when interpreting serologic test results. Further, many persons infected with SARS-CoV-2 will be asymptomatic and never tested by viral detection tests, further complicating the interpretation of subsequent serologic testing. Testing for antibodies that indicate natural infection could be a useful public health tool as vaccination programs are implemented, provided the serologic tests are adequately validated to specifically detect antibodies to specific proteins (or antigens). Although an antibody test may employ a specific antigen(s), antibodies developed in response to different proteins may cross-react (i.e., the antigen(s) may detect antibodies it is not intended to detect), and therefore, may not provide sufficient information on the presence of antigen specific antibodies. For currently FDA authorized tests, it has not been established whether the antigen(s) employed by the test specifically detects only antibodies against that antigen and not others. Furthermore, none of the currently authorized tests have been specifically authorized to assess individuals who have received a vaccine. However, the EUA indications for currently authorized tests do not preclude the use of these tests on individuals who have received a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine. Vaccination may cause false-positive results for tests that utilize the S antigen or subunits like RBD, but not for tests that use the N antigen. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80391409 France 05/21/2021 02:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that's because the vax doesn't provide immunity and they don't want to be called out for it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79573678 the test does not detect the type of antibodies induced by the vaccine, the FDA said. They are totally paranoid!, what the heck! i'd be surprised if it induces any type of antibodies, they know they are being deceitful by calling it a "vaccine". this latest news is just a continuation of their deceit. Authorized SARS-CoV-2 antibody tests are not validated to evaluate immunity or protection from COVID-19 infection. The above for the natural infection. As for the vaccination, antibody test results will be negative if there is no history of natural infection and if the test does not detect the type of antibodies induced by the vaccine, the FDA said. LOL! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80391409 France 05/21/2021 02:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that's because the vax doesn't provide immunity and they don't want to be called out for it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79573678 so why do people claim they did the test after the vax and proud to say they have the antibodies They were antibodies from previous natural infection and that is why some have more and some less, it is not from the vaccination, since it does not detect the type of antibodies induced by the vaccine. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80232578 Iceland 05/21/2021 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that's because the vax doesn't provide immunity and they don't want to be called out for it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79573678 so why do people claim they did the test after the vax and proud to say they have the antibodies They were antibodies from previous natural infection and that is why some have more and some less, it is not from the vaccination, since it does not detect the type of antibodies induced by the vaccine. wow really? big if true. on reddit tons of shills are saying 'once you get the vaxx you'll be protected by antibodies' |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80391409 France 05/21/2021 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They practically instruct specific antibodies to be made, for the antigen response that is created! and has nothing to do with the original virus as a whole! Of course here they are mumbo jumbo... [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] but in reality it is simple how it works a vaccine, it produces antibodies for the virus, those antibodies are there, they are not invisible! and they are for the virus that they want to bring immunity towards. Now they say to you that they do not produce antibodies for the virus, but for the things that they instructed the immune to make! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80391409 France 05/21/2021 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that's because the vax doesn't provide immunity and they don't want to be called out for it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79573678 so why do people claim they did the test after the vax and proud to say they have the antibodies They were antibodies from previous natural infection and that is why some have more and some less, it is not from the vaccination, since it does not detect the type of antibodies induced by the vaccine. wow really? big if true. on reddit tons of shills are saying 'once you get the vaxx you'll be protected by antibodies' FDA said it. [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] [link to www.aappublications.org (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77801949 United States 05/21/2021 02:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that's because the vax doesn't provide immunity and they don't want to be called out for it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79573678 the test does not detect the type of antibodies induced by the vaccine, the FDA said. They are totally paranoid!, what the heck! Holy shit they are full blown liars... They had to know this would come out... So corrupt... literally a full year of “tests, tests, tests” and now they won’t test the vaccinated for the antibodies or the PCR.. Something is REALLY WRONG |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79573678 Australia 05/21/2021 02:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that's because the vax doesn't provide immunity and they don't want to be called out for it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79573678 the test does not detect the type of antibodies induced by the vaccine, the FDA said. They are totally paranoid!, what the heck! i'd be surprised if it induces any type of antibodies, they know they are being deceitful by calling it a "vaccine". this latest news is just a continuation of their deceit. Authorized SARS-CoV-2 antibody tests are not validated to evaluate immunity or protection from COVID-19 infection. The above for the natural infection. As for the vaccination, antibody test results will be negative if there is no history of natural infection and if the test does not detect the type of antibodies induced by the vaccine, the FDA said. LOL! haha so this "vaccine" makes some kind of special invisible antibodies that can't be detected by normal tests? what a joke |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80391409 France 05/21/2021 02:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80391409 the test does not detect the type of antibodies induced by the vaccine, the FDA said. They are totally paranoid!, what the heck! i'd be surprised if it induces any type of antibodies, they know they are being deceitful by calling it a "vaccine". this latest news is just a continuation of their deceit. Authorized SARS-CoV-2 antibody tests are not validated to evaluate immunity or protection from COVID-19 infection. The above for the natural infection. As for the vaccination, antibody test results will be negative if there is no history of natural infection and if the test does not detect the type of antibodies induced by the vaccine, the FDA said. LOL! haha so this "vaccine" makes some kind of special invisible antibodies that can't be detected by normal tests? what a joke It produces speficic type of antibodies induced by the vaccine, the FDA said, which the antibody test results will be negative if there is no history of natural infection. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77801949 United States 05/21/2021 02:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79573678 i'd be surprised if it induces any type of antibodies, they know they are being deceitful by calling it a "vaccine". this latest news is just a continuation of their deceit. Authorized SARS-CoV-2 antibody tests are not validated to evaluate immunity or protection from COVID-19 infection. The above for the natural infection. As for the vaccination, antibody test results will be negative if there is no history of natural infection and if the test does not detect the type of antibodies induced by the vaccine, the FDA said. LOL! haha so this "vaccine" makes some kind of special invisible antibodies that can't be detected by normal tests? what a joke It produces speficic type of antibodies induced by the vaccine, the FDA said, which the antibody test results will be negative if there is no history of natural infection. “They said” lol |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80391409 France 05/21/2021 02:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80391409 Authorized SARS-CoV-2 antibody tests are not validated to evaluate immunity or protection from COVID-19 infection. The above for the natural infection. As for the vaccination, antibody test results will be negative if there is no history of natural infection and if the test does not detect the type of antibodies induced by the vaccine, the FDA said. LOL! haha so this "vaccine" makes some kind of special invisible antibodies that can't be detected by normal tests? what a joke It produces speficic type of antibodies induced by the vaccine, the FDA said, which the antibody test results will be negative if there is no history of natural infection. “They said” lol FDA are the "they", they (FDA) are them that instruct the Government to place any measures to all for the greater good, they (FDA) is the one that moves the strings to you there and Globally to mostly all through the WHO. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77801949 United States 05/21/2021 02:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought it was crazy when the doc didn’t test my friend who has covid symptoms after the experimental drug. Just told him it was something else. Now it totally makes sense.. doctors are covering and likely told not to test the vaccinated... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77801949 United States 05/21/2021 02:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79573678 haha so this "vaccine" makes some kind of special invisible antibodies that can't be detected by normal tests? what a joke It produces speficic type of antibodies induced by the vaccine, the FDA said, which the antibody test results will be negative if there is no history of natural infection. “They said” lol FDA are the "they", they (FDA) are them that instruct the Government to place any measures to all for the greater good, they (FDA) is the one that moves the strings to you there and Globally to mostly all through the WHO. I get it... it’s funny... they didn’t provide some new test, they didn’t provide anything, they just said it creates other antibodies that you can’t test for... That’s funny. |
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Turtle Hermit User ID: 78227579 United States 05/21/2021 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Next will be approval of the vaccines, and the ability to make them mandatory! What the antibody is about is denying natural proof of immunity vs government issued immunity. One costs nothing, while the other carries a very high price. Stop thinking this vax is a poison, it’s just the most effective means of controlling you! They are purposely derailing the natural immunity aspect, so they can force the vax on you. They want you tagged. Electronically. Outlaw cash and you can track 100% what is bought and sold. Follow you through your GPS, and Ecar. Go further in your mind...Listen to Rush’s Red Barchetta...the motor law is coming...the eyes watching... The mark is surely coming, but it’s not what’s happening now...this is the beginning...I don’t hate anyone for wanting to die on this hill, but ultimately, a foolish gesture at best, as the true battle will be later, when Science is God, and they force it on you. Anyways....not trying to pull anyone’s chain or collect 3.50, just saying this “program” is running at like 95% efficiency, and every hurdle I see here on GLP is being jumped over...HIPAA, FDA approval, etc. Mandovax is coming. So I guess in a way...you don’t have to worry about “Dethvax” anymore, though that might be a later scenario, and of course the end result: The Mark. So maybe plan farther ahead, than just having a shootout with local police, and being turned into a propaganda piece over not getting the vax. When the REAL time comes...it’s about turning from God...you will know (and have no other choice), and all true warriors will accept death and deny Science! Always remember these words: Work hard, study well, and eat and sleep plenty! That is the Turtle Hermit way! We must master the art of peace in addition to the art of war! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 80391409 France 05/21/2021 02:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80391409 It produces speficic type of antibodies induced by the vaccine, the FDA said, which the antibody test results will be negative if there is no history of natural infection. “They said” lol FDA are the "they", they (FDA) are them that instruct the Government to place any measures to all for the greater good, they (FDA) is the one that moves the strings to you there and Globally to mostly all through the WHO. I get it... it’s funny... they didn’t provide some new test, they didn’t provide anything, they just said it creates other antibodies that you can’t test for... That’s funny. yes, it is totally funny actually, it goes with what WHO written about herd immunity some months ago, that it comes from either natural infection or vaccination, and then instantly after some days it changed the definition to only from vaccination and under no circumstances from natural infection. They (this time WHO) prepared the ground for this one now from them (FDA) |