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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79968046 United States 05/25/2021 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bugging out is so 2000, bugging IN makes more sense. But I’ll play along. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79968046 Small water filter and life straws Ferrous fire starter Rocket stove and small pot Portable bidet Supplements Clothing layers Waterproof poncho Canteen Weapons/ammo Paracord Solar charger Combo Radio/light that uses solar or crank power Instant coffee Pemmican First aid kit Alcohol Small Items to barter As someone else mentioned. How much does it all weigh? Does anyone with a bug out bag have the total weight they can divulge? I’ve hiked with all of that stuff, you take what you think you’ll need and can handle. I’ve never weighed it but it’s under 15lbs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78459304 United States 05/25/2021 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good list. Quoting: PeterWiggin Why not keep this stuff in your car permanently? Then you can bug out in minutes instead of hours? I do have this stuff in my car. I also want to see if I am missing anything. I store everything in my flat trunk crammed in with the spare tire. Including a shovel. Sounds good. Do you have a folding cart to transport your gear if you have to abandon you car? They're like $75, about 3'x2', and can hold 200# A suitcase with decently large wheels is a good thing to keep the stuff in, inside your vehicle. It is reasonably portable. Doesn't scream 'prepper' either. And it keeps your trunk nice and organized. I also have a folding luggage carrier which is great for a small cooler or plano totes. But it's kinda janky. A collapsible wagon would be good. But hopefully my car can go with me because it has all I need except food and some extra blankets. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78965297 United States 05/25/2021 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you do and what do you take with you and your family if you may not come back? Quoting: Achduke7 Just a thought experiment. Thank you for the reminder OP, I have been doing my mental preps on emergency fire evac all morning. So many thing to think about. Making a list and checking it twice, measure to fit max priority needs to be loaded in the least amount of time. Time to put things in order for emergency exit. |
Ostria1
User ID: 80408741 Greece 05/25/2021 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have 4 hours to bug out So only one hour to pack and go, travel for about 2 more hours to get out of the main traffic and have a meeting place with friends/family, at a more remote spot, not on the main bug out road. What do you take with you? Camping items + water and food (dry, cans, nuts, sweets etc) Personal papers, two photos, books/notebooks/magazines, maps, pencils, crayons if you have children, their fav toys Portable radio and a two-way radios, flashlights, batteries, magnifier, matches, compass, ropes, tapes, tools/weapons + an ax and a hand saw, fishing tools. Medicine and first aid box Clothes/shoes for all seasons A normal blanket you can use on the ground and survival blankets Some money + some items to trade with (eg smoke, liquor) Extra fuel + an empty clean jerrycan Ostria |
Ostria1
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Achduke7
(OP) User ID: 69637911 United States 05/25/2021 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bugging out is so 2000, bugging IN makes more sense. But I’ll play along. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79968046 Small water filter and life straws Ferrous fire starter Rocket stove and small pot Portable bidet Supplements Clothing layers Waterproof poncho Canteen Weapons/ammo Paracord Solar charger Combo Radio/light that uses solar or crank power Instant coffee Pemmican First aid kit Alcohol Small Items to barter As someone else mentioned. How much does it all weigh? Does anyone with a bug out bag have the total weight they can divulge? I’ve hiked with all of that stuff, you take what you think you’ll need and can handle. I’ve never weighed it but it’s under 15lbs. Thank you, Achduke |
Rev Woo-Woo
User ID: 78176490 United States 05/25/2021 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Living in a tsunami zone, I’ve had less than 4 hours to bug out. We were able to do it with time to spare! In that situation, the priorities were survival supplies - food, camping gear, medical etc. Irreplaceable items - important paperwork, photos etc. Tools - dig out, repair and rebuild “If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.” Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace "But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8 "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
Achduke7
(OP) User ID: 69637911 United States 05/25/2021 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good list. Quoting: PeterWiggin Why not keep this stuff in your car permanently? Then you can bug out in minutes instead of hours? I do have this stuff in my car. I also want to see if I am missing anything. I store everything in my flat trunk crammed in with the spare tire. Including a shovel. Sounds good. Do you have a folding cart to transport your gear if you have to abandon you car? They're like $75, about 3'x2', and can hold 200# A suitcase with decently large wheels is a good thing to keep the stuff in, inside your vehicle. It is reasonably portable. Doesn't scream 'prepper' either. And it keeps your trunk nice and organized. I also have a folding luggage carrier which is great for a small cooler or plano totes. But it's kinda janky. A collapsible wagon would be good. But hopefully my car can go with me because it has all I need except food and some extra blankets. Interesting. Do they make a suitcase/back pack with wheels. Something you could wheel around or carry on your back. Achduke |
Achduke7
(OP) User ID: 69637911 United States 05/25/2021 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good list. Quoting: PeterWiggin Why not keep this stuff in your car permanently? Then you can bug out in minutes instead of hours? I do have this stuff in my car. I also want to see if I am missing anything. I store everything in my flat trunk crammed in with the spare tire. Including a shovel. Sounds good. Do you have a folding cart to transport your gear if you have to abandon you car? They're like $75, about 3'x2', and can hold 200# A suitcase with decently large wheels is a good thing to keep the stuff in, inside your vehicle. It is reasonably portable. Doesn't scream 'prepper' either. And it keeps your trunk nice and organized. I also have a folding luggage carrier which is great for a small cooler or plano totes. But it's kinda janky. A collapsible wagon would be good. But hopefully my car can go with me because it has all I need except food and some extra blankets. This may fit the bill. A backpack with wheels. [link to www.amazon.com (secure)] Achduke |
Inquire Within
User ID: 78689057 United States 05/25/2021 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If a disaster or crisis strikes, these are always my steps: 1. Stop whatever I'm doing. 2. Pray for Divine guidance. 3. Act accordingly by intuition. This makes my responses universal for any situation or circumstance. *All statements above represent my personal opinions. If you disagree, simply add me to your ignore list. |
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sssssteve
User ID: 80407210 United States 05/25/2021 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We aren't running ANYWHERE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406825 Whatever comes we will face it head-on. If its an asteroid and we're ground zero, we will say our prayers, and THANK THE GOOD LORD! yep, I'm already in the NC Mountains. Have guns, ammo, truck, dual sport motorcycle, boat, a freshwater clean creek on property, well, generator, garden, canned goods, I really don't plan on leaving, might as die on my feet than on my knees..... |
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SlimMcKenzie
User ID: 80407066 Sweden 05/25/2021 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm already in God's country here. Nowhere else I would bug out to as we've got solar, huge garden, running stream, forest full of game animals, farmer neighbors, and can bike 10 minutes to a beautiful hidden lake. Quoting: LaGata If there was ever a reason to bug out from THIS location, I'm staying put and dying right here on my beautiful rural land looking at the gorgeous mountains and sky as my last sights on earth. Can i come bug out your place? Lone Ranger, looking for Pocahontas. |
continuity
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77374864 United States 05/25/2021 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those in Paradise California had 5 minutes, 15 max, to HIT THE ROAD and get out of there, and not all made it - mostly those who delayed. 4 hours? In a disaster situation 4 hours would be a Godsend ... in a real DISASTER, you have 10 minutes max to react and get physically moving. * Always know where your most important papers are (birth certificates, passports, address book for contacting family and friends, insurance papers) and make sure they and your "grab money" can be grabbed so you can be out of there in 90 seconds. * A little more time? Say 5 more minutes: Family photographs - for most they are irreplaceable and what people miss the most if disaster destroys everything * A little more time? Say another 5 minutes? Some family "artifacts", particularly the multi-generational ones. * AFTER you have that stuff ready to go THEN worry about clothes, water, food and shelter items. Having water, food, and shelter from the elements, particularly in a rainy or cold location, can be an almost immediate Life and Death dynamic. * ONLY AFTER those items are taken care of would I worry about guns /ammo etc.. Guns and ammo are replaceable, and NOT NEEDED for the first few days a bug out situation (unless you are going to use them to STEAL from others). Those who react quickly can possibly "beat the crowd" wrt traffic (if they are driving) ... since any MASS evacuation is going to clog the roads up very quickly. Again look at the situation of those trying to get out of Paradise. If you don't remember what that was like just call up some YouTube videos of it and you will quickly get an education that SPEED at getting on the road can make the difference between life and death. The Oakland Hills fire of 1991 is another good example. Some people who left 90 seconds after their neighbor DIED!! In that situation one had about 90 seconds to get moving ... or risk dying. 90 seconds ... THAT is what you need to be ready for. Usually it is better to leave stuff behind, even survival stuff, and start to get out the situation as fast as possible once a real disaster hits. |
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The Wizzard of Ahs!
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80409097 United States 05/25/2021 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those in Paradise California had 5 minutes, 15 max, to HIT THE ROAD and get out of there, and not all made it - mostly those who delayed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77374864 4 hours? In a disaster situation 4 hours would be a Godsend ... in a real DISASTER, you have 10 minutes max to react and get physically moving. * Always know where your most important papers are (birth certificates, passports, address book for contacting family and friends, insurance papers) and make sure they and your "grab money" can be grabbed so you can be out of there in 90 seconds. * A little more time? Say 5 more minutes: Family photographs - for most they are irreplaceable and what people miss the most if disaster destroys everything * A little more time? Say another 5 minutes? Some family "artifacts", particularly the multi-generational ones. * AFTER you have that stuff ready to go THEN worry about clothes, water, food and shelter items. Having water, food, and shelter from the elements, particularly in a rainy or cold location, can be an almost immediate Life and Death dynamic. * ONLY AFTER those items are taken care of would I worry about guns /ammo etc.. Guns and ammo are replaceable, and NOT NEEDED for the first few days a bug out situation (unless you are going to use them to STEAL from others). Those who react quickly can possibly "beat the crowd" wrt traffic (if they are driving) ... since any MASS evacuation is going to clog the roads up very quickly. Again look at the situation of those trying to get out of Paradise. If you don't remember what that was like just call up some YouTube videos of it and you will quickly get an education that SPEED at getting on the road can make the difference between life and death. The Oakland Hills fire of 1991 is another good example. Some people who left 90 seconds after their neighbor DIED!! In that situation one had about 90 seconds to get moving ... or risk dying. 90 seconds ... THAT is what you need to be ready for. Usually it is better to leave stuff behind, even survival stuff, and start to get out the situation as fast as possible once a real disaster hits. Thank you for life saving information and reminders. I have been thinking along the same lines. How to get out fast and be ready. We are in for another bad fire season this year out west, possibly worse due to drought, insect damage, excess debris and lower snow pack. |
Achduke7
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PeterWiggin
User ID: 80406021 05/25/2021 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you do and what do you take with you and your family if you may not come back? Quoting: Achduke7 Just a thought experiment. It would be helpful to know the disaster we are facing. I mentioned a couple of scenarios earlier in the thread. And the scenarios don't matter. Here's the scenario... Your house and neighborhood are in immediate and significant danger. You HAVE to leave. What do you take? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45407635 United States 05/26/2021 08:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A few posts up, i answered that And phone/tablet can carry gigabytes of survival data. I'm certain no one here knows everything. I downloaded gigabytes of random survival, back to basics, natural medicine, etc. It is copied to all my families' phones because... Why not phones are tracking devices.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80411700 United States 05/26/2021 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1st off IF you are smart you will be LIVING in the place that is where you need to be no buggin out required. So get your alls asses out of the cities be able to grow a few things. Sure keep a PLAN just in case but the last minute runnoft is rift with potential problems. You get on a busy freeway and try and flee a car with bug out gear? Whackadoodles will probably stop you in your tracks. The thing to keep in mind is Fear is not good and adrenaline should be used only when needed. |
PeterWiggin
User ID: 80406021 05/26/2021 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A few posts up, i answered that And phone/tablet can carry gigabytes of survival data. I'm certain no one here knows everything. I downloaded gigabytes of random survival, back to basics, natural medicine, etc. It is copied to all my families' phones because... Why not phones are tracking devices.... And? I feel like some of y'all have narrow thinking about the kind of emergencies that would lead to bugging out. Most emergencies have nothing to do with the gov. |
PeterWiggin
User ID: 80406021 05/26/2021 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1st off IF you are smart you will be LIVING in the place that is where you need to be no buggin out required. So get your alls asses out of the cities be able to grow a few things. Sure keep a PLAN just in case but the last minute runnoft is rift with potential problems. You get on a busy freeway and try and flee a car with bug out gear? Whackadoodles will probably stop you in your tracks. The thing to keep in mind is Fear is not good and adrenaline should be used only when needed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80411700 Such nonsense. The most like emergencies are natural disasters. Those happen everywhere. By all means, if living away from cities makes you happy, DO THAT! BE HAPPY! But do not run to live in the country out of fear... Because then you created your own shtf |
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Bar20
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