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**Isn't this PROOF my PC is HACKED**email this am originated from MY email addy to me receipt from website I subscribe to***How can this happen

 
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**Isn't this PROOF my PC is HACKED**email this am originated from MY email addy to me receipt from website I subscribe to***How can this happen
Just HOW can this happen??
I was SHOCKED when I checked my email an
hour ago and saw this FROM my email TO
MY email.. First time it has happened, EVER!
I am still SHOCKED and feel really creepy.
I know that I cannot send an email with SOMEONE
ELSE'S EMAIL as the ORIGINATOR.

Is this in any way possible?
I have subscribed to this website for at least
6 mo now and I have ALWAYS received a receipt from
PAYPAL for the withdwawn fees and it took years to
even use Paypal as I don't trust them.

I will try and post a copy after I delete some
of my email addy from it.
The website is Wayne Madsen Reports.

Help me out here, PLEASE!
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12/25/2007 12:01 PM
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Re: **Isn't this PROOF my PC is HACKED**email this am originated from MY email addy to me receipt from website I subscribe to***How can this happen
did you receive an email from the website? is it possible you set your email to cc you another copy? or did you check some confirmation box you didnt understand when you joined the site? could be alot of ways it happened besides hacking....might even have clicked the wrong button when closing the original...got me curious now
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12/25/2007 12:06 PM
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you have a zombie in your machine

google it , so you can kill it

[link to www.associatedcontent.com]

good luck
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12/25/2007 12:07 PM
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and so it begins....



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12/25/2007 12:10 PM
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Re: **Isn't this PROOF my PC is HACKED**email this am originated from MY email addy to me receipt from website I subscribe to***How can this happen
It is possible to send email and determine the sender address at will.

I could right now send you an email using [email protected] , that wouldn't mean I hacked it, that would mean that the email system was designed by a moron.
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12/25/2007 12:24 PM
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We need to know what OS your using also to help.

If your using windows then you could be using a system with a mean lil app running on it.

Let us know
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We need to know what OS your using also to help.

If your using windows then you could be using a system with a mean lil app running on it.

Let us know
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12/25/2007 12:27 PM
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It's dead easy to change the originating addy in Outlook to appear as anything you want.

But it sounds like someone's hitting on you. Look at the mail headers.
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12/25/2007 12:38 PM
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Re: **Isn't this PROOF my PC is HACKED**email this am originated from MY email addy to me receipt from website I subscribe to***How can this happen
I'm obviously NOT a computer whiz, but this is the
FIRST time this has EVER happened. (redundant I know)
But this is just too freaky! Always a Paypal notice
NEVER this. I didn't check any box indicating this,
but I'll try and check. I've suspected for sometime
that something was amiss. I was caught up in that
'keystroke' lockon here about 3 years ago and had to
start over with everything on my pc.
Most of us pretty much assume that our emails, etc
are hijacked; read, etc. But THIS??

But last night I was trying to activate my printer
and when I asked the pc to check for 'new hardware'
it brought up this: an exclamation mark in a logo
that said something like "shared network" or close
to this (I tried to copy it and ask someone about it
but it wouldn't c/p)

I don't know enough about this to findout HOW to get
rid of whatever it is. I would have to be walked
through it.

Not sure how to copy this unto thread without
giving up my email addy, but will try.

You can check waynemadsenreport.com and see if
you spot anything amiss.
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12/25/2007 12:43 PM
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windows 98
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My 666 Beast is running free outside, in one will, with permission to do anything except to destroy water, air, trees, or wildlife, or the people with the marks of the Father on them. My armies move in ways beyond your programmed book brains in a Holy War to redeem life on Earth.

Charles Manson
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12/25/2007 12:57 PM
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if you gave me your email address I could, right now, send you an email that looks like it came form you. Anybody can. But if you look deeper and at the email header you can see that it doesnt actually come from your email server.

dont worry about it.
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12/25/2007 01:13 PM
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Here are some details of the email. Hope I've redacted
enough personal info..

Received: (qmail 12945 invoked by uid 989); 25 Dec 2007 12:24:22 -0000
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 04:24:22 -0800
Message-Id: <@paypal.com>
Subject: Receipt for your subscription payment
X-MaxCode-Template: email-receipt-subscribe-payment
To: <[email protected]>
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]
X-Email-Type-Id: PPxxx
X-XPT-XSL-Name:
email_pimp/default/en_US/transaction/buyer/ReceiptSubscribePa​yment.xsl
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-AOL-IP: xxxxxxX-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:xxxxxx:xxxxx
X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT:
X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n
X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : +


***Had to redact bunches*** Didn'twant to give up
my paypal acct or email. I suppose I didn't include
enough info, there was an ip# but thought it was more
than likely mine:-) This appears to be a relay type
thingy, but has never before with MY email as sender.
Also, still wondering about this **shared network**
thingy w/the yellow exclamation mark re new hardware?
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12/25/2007 01:21 PM
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and so it begins....



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12/25/2007 01:25 PM
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It's an old hacker's trick -- spoofing the email and IP. I can do it, and so can anyone else with just a little bit of knowledge and a simple probe of unsecured computers.

The first time I encountered it was back in 1992 (which was when I learned to do this, using the old telnet command line protocols.) Spammers use it to make things seem like they come from legitimate links and legitimate websites. If you click, it often leads to kittens sites or sites that grab your info.

No need to panic. Delete the email and laugh.
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12/25/2007 01:45 PM
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you have a zombie in your machine

google it , so you can kill it

[link to www.associatedcontent.com]

good luck
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Thanks, I looking thru this...Any recommandation
among these?
Are you saying install one of these then google
infected results, then it will tell me how to
rid them??
Told'ya no whiz here.
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12/25/2007 02:07 PM
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Re: **Isn't this PROOF my PC is HACKED**email this am originated from MY email addy to me receipt from website I subscribe to***How can this happen
It's an old hacker's trick -- spoofing the email and IP. I can do it, and so can anyone else with just a little bit of knowledge and a simple probe of unsecured computers.

The first time I encountered it was back in 1992 (which was when I learned to do this, using the old telnet command line protocols.) Spammers use it to make things seem like they come from legitimate links and legitimate websites. If you click, it often leads to kittens sites or sites that grab your info.

No need to panic. Delete the email and laugh.
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Are you saying after reading my last post that
this IS spoofed? Does this mean that someone IS
hacking or attempting to hack my PP acc?
Have they been successful? What now?

Sorry to be so stupid about this, I initially
got into computers to research a project that I
have been working on for many years for a video
documentary and didn't take time to really learn
basics. Just leapt in there and hit and miss
at a frantic pace, but it certainly beat snail mail
and the wait. Or library data.

So many things going on NOW re EVERYTHING imagineable
and not, so I thank all that have taken time to help
me during this dilemma, which seems paltry compared
to what is happening all around us and in our private
lives. This in not how I expected to spend these past
hours either, but it just shocked the L out of me.
Thanks so much for your time and help.
Sincerely, love to all
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12/25/2007 02:14 PM
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>> Are you saying after reading my last post that
>> this IS spoofed?

Yes.

>> Does this mean that someone IS
>> hacking or attempting to hack my PP acc?

No. It's like sending you a letter with the return address of "president George Bush, The White House, Washington DC."

>> Have they been successful? What now?

No. Delete and laugh or report it to Paypal. Someone's trying to phish you.

Here's some info on phishing:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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12/25/2007 02:33 PM
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I get these all the time on my e-mail.

If you go "full header", you will see
a numbered URL after "Sender:". Usually
the first one is the telltale source.

Usually, it is from Africa, Russia or China.

You have to search RIPE (Europe)

[link to www.ripe.net]

Asia Pacific:

[link to wq.apnic.net]

[link to www.who.is]

Banks and organizations such as PayPal
do not use internet e-mail to contact
account holders.
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12/25/2007 03:03 PM
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There is an IP on this which I withheld fearing it
may be mine:-)

Is there a source (haven't checked the above links yet)
for IP'S? Although, I think I did copy mine and
store it somewhere...I'd love to find out where it
originates.

Here I go (stupid again) will I have more than one IP#
(just in case) just don't want to publish private
info on myself, like most of us on the internet do not.
Although I (we) have nothing to hide...No telling what
others might do with any of our private info.
Some still do not understand the privacy issues.
Imagine that!

Is there ANY chance that these phishers now know
my PP acc or that it has infected my PC or email?

I'm going to find my IP and check.
Multitasking today, for sure!

thank-you-thank-you!!
Elijah

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12/25/2007 03:10 PM
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There is an IP on this which I withheld fearing it
may be mine:-)

Is there a source (haven't checked the above links yet)
for IP'S? Although, I think I did copy mine and
store it somewhere...I'd love to find out where it
originates.

Here I go (stupid again) will I have more than one IP#
(just in case) just don't want to publish private
info on myself, like most of us on the internet do not.
Although I (we) have nothing to hide...No telling what
others might do with any of our private info.
Some still do not understand the privacy issues.
Imagine that!

Is there ANY chance that these phishers now know
my PP acc or that it has infected my PC or email?

I'm going to find my IP and check.
Multitasking today, for sure!

thank-you-thank-you!!
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Not to be over critical, but if you are not knowledgeable about computer security, do you really think you should do online transactions?
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12/25/2007 04:47 PM
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Not to be over critical, but if you are not knowledgeable about computer security, do you really think you should do online transactions?
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Elijah....You are absolutely right!
(I would imagine everyone on this thread are thinking
the same thing) I thought long and hard before I
did this and it is the ONLY online transaction I
have ever done-For this very reason.
I have been tempted to purchase a few things in the
past; non musical CD'S, etc.
But have resisted and generally
send a money order rather than even a check or
personal debit card.

I thought L only $7...not considering all implications.
Just a loose moment, I guess.

But right you are.
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Zetas right again!!





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