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Uncle is being denied life saving surgery for refusing covid swab and vaxx

 
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The hospital can be sued for not providing life saving procedures. Your uncle's surgery can be scheduled as the last case of the day for safety.
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05/28/2021 05:17 PM
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May depend on the state. I had surgery yesterday on kiddeny and bladder. No vivid test required or vaccine. A coworker had eye surgery a few weeks before me and did have a covid test. Same hospital but we are in Texas.
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Look at you guys. Willing to let a man die from cancer for your lunacy. This is the worlds largest death cult.
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05/28/2021 05:21 PM
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Re: Uncle is being denied life saving surgery for refusing covid swab and vaxx
My uncle was recently diagnosed with cancer, he has a growing mass pressing on a critical organ.

His surgeon called him and informed him of his scan results and they scheduled surgery for today.

Last week he was called by them and told that he has to have a covid swab and then after the result the vaccine or they cannot proceed.

He is totally awake to the whole covid thing and told them to f off and cancelled his surgery. This is they guy who was giving me Bill Cooper's book when I was a teen and talking to me about problem, reaction, solution. He helped me to see through the media bs. The rest of the entire family are demented sheep.

He won't even have the swab out of principle. The surgeon told him that he is sorry but he will not do the surgery without "swab compliance". He cannot "buck the system".

He said that if my Uncle finds another surgeon willing to proceed then he will happily pass on his records.....

But all physicians in this network are dictated to and controlled by the government EHR computer system and they are not allowed to override this stuff.

Just putting this out there to see if anyone has any advice.
 Quoting: GeorgeSumner'sAcorn


I had surgery on 4/30 and it was the hospital that required the swab not my doctor. It was part of pre-op. I was going to delay the surgery but felt I better get it done before they do require the vaccine. I’m in New York so you know that’s coming soon.

Maybe he misunderstood the part about the vaccine?
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05/28/2021 05:21 PM
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If that "Doctor" is requiring a Vax before surgery...I would get a second opinion from an actual Doctor!

Are their "Masks" not going to work that day?!?

Ask them if he wears a mask, and they wear their masks, what's the issue?
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05/28/2021 05:21 PM
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Go to a different hospital and get a different doctor. They are not all requiring it.
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^^THIS^^ I went to see a surgeon a few months ago and even though a mask was needed for the appt., no mention of vaccine requirement for the procedure. Are you in the states?
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BS. I have been in the hospital since the pandemic and had to be tested for covid but not forced into taking the vaccine. They have to test you for covid because that determines the room that you go to after surgery. Because I use a CPAP I generally have a room to myself because they are so freaked out about the possibility of it nebulizing and going into the air.

Going in for a surgery in 2 weeks, and although I have to get tested beforehand, nobody has told me that I need a vaccine to proceed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77542335


Same here. I was in the hospital for 10 days. It was NOT related to COVID but I was put in a room with the set-up for it (that thing they put on the windows). I wasn't tested while there and they didn't even raise the question. I asked them and they said that I have no symptoms so there is no need. It was strange though. I've been in the hospital about 50 times in my life and I have never seen a whole wing devoid of other patients.

I've had the swab 5 times as required for pre-surgery but nobody has ever made the vaccine a requirement.

Good luck with your surgery and recovery.
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05/28/2021 05:36 PM
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I had to get the swab 3 days before taking a stress test which I also had to do with a mask. VA hospital.
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05/28/2021 06:09 PM
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Re: Uncle is being denied life saving surgery for refusing covid swab and vaxx
My brother was just diagnosed with cancer a couple weeks ago.
There's a lump in his throat that has to be surgically removed, but first they want to use other methods to remove it from the vocal chords.

He's already had a couple surgeries to install a semi permanent breathing tube in his throat and feeding tube into his stomach.

He has already started daily chemo treatment and will soon start radiation therapy.

The covid "vaccine" hasn't been brought up so far and if it was a requirement I'd think it would have been by now.

Maybe your uncle should find another doctor/healthcare system because it doesn't seem to be the same everywhere.
 Quoting: Off Grid AZ


Yes, I called the corporate office of one of the major hospitals in my state, and they did not even mention it and acted like their first job was to treat people. Call around, and you will find a hospital. The problem may really be the physician. He is putting political interest before patient treatment, and would rag him out to the state licensing board for malpractice.
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I would also call the American Cancer Association about this, they have a lot of clout, and tell them the situation. I don't think this is legal, but more people need to stand up and discuss it. I do think the American Cancer Association would shit bricks if they were aware of this.
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05/28/2021 06:13 PM
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Rules are Rules...

Play the game or go elsewhere..

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I have never insulted anyone on purpose in my life before, but I must say sir that you are an absolute Bastard of a human being.
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Rules are Rules...

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I have never insulted anyone on purpose in my life before, but I must say sir that you are an absolute Bastard of a human being.
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Nope.. etymology speaking a bastard is an illegitimate child.. someone who does not know their father.. I very much knew mine.. I know your new to this but try a better insult next time...
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05/28/2021 06:19 PM
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He violated Hippocratic oath and is intentionally doing further harm to him. His license should be pulled and everyone in compliance to this BS
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He violated Hippocratic oath and is intentionally doing further harm to him. His license should be pulled and everyone in compliance to this BS
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The Hippocratic oath is NOT legally binding you fucking moron!..
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He violated Hippocratic oath and is intentionally doing further harm to him. His license should be pulled and everyone in compliance to this BS
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The Hippocratic oath is NOT legally binding you fucking moron!..
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This will be their way of killing you in the end. Denying medical aid to non vax. If you go in unconscious they will swab and vax with no consent.
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Re: Uncle is being denied life saving surgery for refusing covid swab and vaxx
May depend on the state. I had surgery yesterday on kiddeny and bladder. No vivid test required or vaccine. A coworker had eye surgery a few weeks before me and did have a covid test. Same hospital but we are in Texas.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78554336


That makes sense. An operation on your kidney and bladder provides more distance while an eye operation puts the doctors and nurses directly near the face. It's the same with dentists.

I hope your recovery is going well.
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He doesnt have to take the vaxx...but he does have to test negitive for covid...

tell your uncle to dummy up and at least take the test...

or dont...

people have died for way more stupid principles...

but i would give to the test...not the vaxx...
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Re: Uncle is being denied life saving surgery for refusing covid swab and vaxx
My uncle was recently diagnosed with cancer, he has a growing mass pressing on a critical organ.

His surgeon called him and informed him of his scan results and they scheduled surgery for today.

Last week he was called by them and told that he has to have a covid swab and then after the result the vaccine or they cannot proceed.

He is totally awake to the whole covid thing and told them to f off and cancelled his surgery. This is they guy who was giving me Bill Cooper's book when I was a teen and talking to me about problem, reaction, solution. He helped me to see through the media bs. The rest of the entire family are demented sheep.

He won't even have the swab out of principle. The surgeon told him that he is sorry but he will not do the surgery without "swab compliance". He cannot "buck the system".

He said that if my Uncle finds another surgeon willing to proceed then he will happily pass on his records.....

But all physicians in this network are dictated to and controlled by the government EHR computer system and they are not allowed to override this stuff.

Just putting this out there to see if anyone has any advice.
 Quoting: GeorgeSumner'sAcorn



I'm sorry that your uncle is going through that. My uncle had hernia surgery in December and the staff didn't even mention covid.
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My uncle was recently diagnosed with cancer, he has a growing mass pressing on a critical organ.

His surgeon called him and informed him of his scan results and they scheduled surgery for today.

Last week he was called by them and told that he has to have a covid swab and then after the result the vaccine or they cannot proceed.

He is totally awake to the whole covid thing and told them to f off and cancelled his surgery. This is they guy who was giving me Bill Cooper's book when I was a teen and talking to me about problem, reaction, solution. He helped me to see through the media bs. The rest of the entire family are demented sheep.

He won't even have the swab out of principle. The surgeon told him that he is sorry but he will not do the surgery without "swab compliance". He cannot "buck the system".

He said that if my Uncle finds another surgeon willing to proceed then he will happily pass on his records.....

But all physicians in this network are dictated to and controlled by the government EHR computer system and they are not allowed to override this stuff.

Just putting this out there to see if anyone has any advice.
 Quoting: GeorgeSumner'sAcorn


That's B.S because my dad has a tumor that's been growing on his kidney for a few yrs & it's really big now that he had to wait because of covid restrictions but now that he can have SURGERY ,all they told him was he needed to be tested the day before. They can't make him get the vaccine.
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It is the SWAB that he is refusing, and the computer system enforces the swab rule. The swab on its own is dangerous.
 Quoting: GeorgeSumner'sAcorn


I am curious what evidence you know of that the swabs are adulterated with anything illicit other than cotton?
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This is what you all have allowed this country to become. You can't even get basic medical attention anymore. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU FOR FAILING THIS MAN AND YOUR FUTURE!
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The hospital can be sued for not providing life saving procedures. Your uncle's surgery can be scheduled as the last case of the day for safety.
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Re: Uncle is being denied life saving surgery for refusing covid swab and vaxx
He won't even have the swab out of principle. The surgeon told him that he is sorry but he will not do the surgery.

Just putting this out there to see if anyone has any advice.
 Quoting: GeorgeSumner'sAcorn


My advice would be to start picking out a burial plot, as it sounds like your Uncle is going to die due to being a retard.
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He's not a fucking retard, He is a man who sticks up for what he believes in. He has more guts than the likes of you will ever have.

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