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You were discussing the video - you brought it up.
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I wrote that YouTube recommended that video to me, but I didn't comment on the video. I only commented on the song.

The thread title is 90s type women are extinct. Women are the same now as then - they all think they're fat and will use digital trickery to hide it.
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You missed the point of this thread. The point is that 90s-type women are extinct among the younger generations. It's not about appearance primarily although that's part of it.

The big issues here are the style, spirit, values, etc. of the 90s being dead among the younger generations.
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You were discussing the video - you brought it up.
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I wrote that YouTube recommended that video to me, but I didn't comment on the video. I only commented on the song.

The thread title is 90s type women are extinct. Women are the same now as then - they all think they're fat and will use digital trickery to hide it.
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You missed the point of this thread. The point is that 90s-type women are extinct among the younger generations. It's not about appearance primarily although that's part of it.

The big issues here are the style, spirit, values, etc. of the 90s being dead among the younger generations.
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Ok pal. Gee, what would I, a woman throughout these time periods know about women then and now and how 'spirit
and values' change? Example - I HAD spirit and values when I adored her and her music as a child having fun dancing and singing, then you grow up and see the world for the pack of lies and garbage that it really is. How could you NOT be disillusioned ESPECIALLY by the very same people you looked up too?
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How could you NOT be disillusioned ESPECIALLY by the very same people you looked up too?
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That's a great point that I completely agree with.

In the 90s, people were innocent because the Internet was just getting started. People were innocent because the "truth movement" and having the knowledge of all previous generations at our fingertips didn't exist yet.

With that innocence came bliss. We had so much hope and faith because of ignorance. With the Internet came knowledge and thus power but also a loss of bliss, hope, and faith.

Thank you for adding that. hf
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How could you NOT be disillusioned ESPECIALLY by the very same people you looked up too?
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That's a great point that I completely agree with.

In the 90s, people were innocent because the Internet was just getting started. People were innocent because the "truth movement" and having the knowledge of all previous generations at our fingertips didn't exist yet.

With that innocence came bliss. We had so much hope and faith because of ignorance. With the Internet came knowledge and thus power but also a loss of bliss, hope, and faith.

Thank you for adding that. hf
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I agree.
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That is a beautiful love song although it's corny. It's incredibly poetic.

In the 90s, women could write romantic love songs that weren't corny but fun and hot. Janet Jackson's song "If" is a perfect example of that. This song and music video sounded and looked futuristic in 1993, and it still does to me today. Things were spinning off in many directions in the 90s, and so much music seemed so avant-garde and futuristic and a lot if that suddenly disappeared and didn't even make it to the next decade. You don't see that in previous or subsequent decades.

The songs embedded above and below here point out another thing that's been lost. No matter how good-looking women were back then (and previously), they had to tell men that the men were valuable and cherished. Both of these women are calling out to the men they like explaining why these women will be good partners. None of that is necessary anymore when women don't need to put any effort out to get as many good dates as they want online.


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Hatfield is trying to make a comeback with tour. I believe it’s called in your face and it opens in LA. The culture has changed so much I think the only people there will be Gen X’ers. Everything went hip hop and rap in the music industry overs twenty years ago now. Rock, especially chick rock, is dead. Billie Ellish is the voice of female music now apparently. It’s heavily influenced by African American ‘culture’....
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The songs embedded above and below here point out another thing that's been lost. No matter how good-looking women were back then (and previously), they had to tell men that the men were valuable and cherished. Both of these women are calling out to the men they like explaining why these women will be good partners. None of that is necessary anymore when women don't need to put any effort out to get as many good dates as they want online.
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I haven't heard a song where a female singer praised a man in ages. I just did a search for 2021 love songs, and I chose this Dua Lipa song because I know she's a good artist.

I would say this song is a shadow of the songs I just discussed. Dua Lipa is explaining the importance of her partner to him but only in the most self-centered way possible. There's no acknowledgement of the man being special like in the previous songs. The entire song is about Dua Lipa. That's exactly how it is these days with every female singer I know of like Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, Selena Gomez, and Katy Perry.


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Duh, we're all in our 50s now
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We’re old but not extinct.

So touching that someone still wants us.
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That's a good song, but what are these lyrics?

I got a little devil dancing in my mind
Playing tricks on my imagination, ruining my night, wow
I try to shake it off by looking in your eyes
All the voices in my head keep tryna tell me it's goodbye, uh


She's not even a little ashamed to sing that in front of the whole world?

And actually the whole song is about her being miserable, disoriented, and let's face it...that sounds like a description of serious mental illness.

Remember the women of the 90s had to appear as good as possible all the time to get the dates they wanted.

Someone like Dua Lipa can say or do anything basically now, and it makes no difference socially. So...they do. I don't blame them, but it needs to be said.
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why post music ? thread was about people , not lizards .
THEY ARE LIZARDS .
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why post music ? thread was about people , not lizards .
THEY ARE LIZARDS .
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Pop music is a good barometer for society as a whole. That's what scares me. chuckle
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I need to cleanse my soul after listening to "If It Ain't Me" by Dua Lipa one too many times. I felt a generation gap with that song. That's not because I haven't felt that way in romance. I have felt exactly that way, and I think it's a great song. I think she described those emotions perfectly and poetically. It's just that it's hard for me to imagine that a love song by someone like Dua Lipa is that downbeat and depressing these days. That's something I haven't experienced before.

The Sundays from 1997 with not a love song but a philosophical statement about love is a good way to pick this thread back up.


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I love her voice. It gives me chills.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ESV

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards,
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Does anyone know who the woman is who got a close-up at about 54-57 seconds into that video?

I don't remember the last time I saw a woman that beautiful. We're talking about 90-type women being extinct, and I have had that thought several times in this thread: I don't remember the last time I saw a woman that beautiful.

What I'm realizing is that so much of this is gone because it all came and went together. Nothing in society happens in a vacuum.
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I love her voice. It gives me chills.
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You should like their debut album. This is it in full.


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Man, I miss me some 90s women. Such a great time to be a teenager, the women hadn't yet been fully indoctrinated by leftist filth and were more concerned with saving the whales and rainforests.

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Man, I miss me some 90s women. Such a great time to be a teenager, the women hadn't yet been fully indoctrinated by leftist filth and were more concerned with saving the whales and rainforests.
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Politics wasn't a divisive issue in the 90s the way I remember it. There wasn't much difference between Republicans and Democrats then in my opinion.

I never even bothered to discuss politics with friends or family back then. It seemed to me that a uniparty was so clearly in control that it hardly mattered which side you chose.
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They were still whores.
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They were still whores.
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There was more female independence than ever in the 90s. I don't know if that increased or declined after that because I haven't paid attention.

I think women pulled away from men in the 90s more than ever compared with previous decades.

Were they "still whores"?

I think there was less of that than at any time previously.
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OP is an idiot.

You need to go back 100 years to find worthy women.
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OP is an idiot.

You need to go back 100 years to find worthy women.
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What's your definition of worthy? Worthy of what?

Judging a person on whether they're "worthy" makes it seem like life is a competition. Who has the right to determine that life is a competition? Who could determine what it would take to win the competition?

No one has the right to tell me what winning is for me. Consequently, I don't have the right to tell anyone else what winning is for them.
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Out from the belly of a whale came a prophet, Amen!
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90’s were definitely the end of an era. 21st Century has sucked big time.
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Does anyone know who the woman is who got a close-up at about 54-57 seconds into that video?
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I remember this particular thing vividly. When this video was on MTV, I would always think that was a gorgeous woman. Since I saw women like that practically every day, it didn't seem special. Whether they were on TV or I saw them in real life, it was basically the same.

Now I think the woman at about 54-57 seconds into that video looks like an otherworldly angel that I have never seen before.

I am convinced that the vast majority of people who lived through the 90s have forgotten what it was really like. I did too. This thread is making me remember.
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The songs embedded above and below here point out another thing that's been lost. No matter how good-looking women were back then (and previously), they had to tell men that the men were valuable and cherished. Both of these women are calling out to the men they like explaining why these women will be good partners. None of that is necessary anymore when women don't need to put any effort out to get as many good dates as they want online.
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YouTube just recommended this new Dua Lipa love song to me.

Give her credit for saying something supportive to the guy in this one:

"Never have I ever met somebody like you"

That's gushing these days. She could actually manage one sentence of support for the guy. The rest of the song is all about her. It's all about her situation. It's all about her needs, her desires, her troubles, and her perspective. Compare that to the 90s love songs recorded by women. This song has a miserable mood and tone like the other Dua Lipa song that I discussed in this thread. Compare that to all the cheerful and uplifting 90s love songs in this thread.

I'm saying all that as a fan of Dua Lipa. I think she'll be a legend someday. chuckle


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I was just trying to find a 2020s-type female love song in the 90s. "Any Man of Man" by Shania Twain is one example. I would argue it's not even a love song but a philosophical statement on romance.

However, that song was a one-off outlier for Twain as far as I know. She recorded almost all traditional love songs like the following in the 90s. What I mean by traditional love songs are love songs where a lot of emphasis is put on praising the partner and the synergy of both people together.

I am convinced it's so uncool for women to praise men now that the situation is exactly the opposite of what Twain did in the 90s today. If you can find a contemporary female musician writing or recording a traditional love song, that would be the complete outlier. Why? Because that's not just out of style, but men are considered disposable trash in dating now for the most part.


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I am convinced it's so uncool for women to praise men now that the situation is exactly the opposite of what Twain did in the 90s today. If you can find a contemporary female musician writing or recording a traditional love song, that would be the complete outlier. Why? Because that's not just out of style, but men are considered disposable trash in dating now for the most part.
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Some people will blame that change on feminism. I don't think that change has anything to do with feminism.

Feminism means nothing when it comes to getting a date. Getting a date used to involve work for both people (outside of blind dates). That's why I think when you look back to pre-Internet explosion love songs women were writing and recording songs that expressed a lot appreciation for men, and they put a lot of emphasis on proving that they would be good partners and explaining why they believed the relationship would succeed. The reason all of that is in old women's love songs is because it is a manifestation of the effort women had to exert to get the dates they wanted in those days.

Now they just turn on their phone and find a list of guys to choose from in their dating apps. No effort whatsoever is necessary for a woman to get good dates now. That goes for all age groups who are dating these days. It's a big reason why not just 90s-type women are extinct but women of the types of all previous generations are extinct in all age groups. I am sure there are a few exceptions here and there like someone who refuses to use the Internet.

For the women posting in this thread, "I am a 90s woman and still here." If you rely on the Internet for dates, I would bet you think of your dates like trash and put out as little effort in dating as that mentality would dictate. That wasn't even possible in the 90s and previously. Women could not afford to act think or act that way simply because getting a good date took effort, so each one had to be cherished.

TLDR: Feminism didn't change dating. Technology did.
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I am making a serious attempt to find a 2020s traditional love song by a female pop star. This is how I'm defining a traditional love song:

"What I mean by traditional love songs are love songs where a lot of emphasis is put on praising the partner and the synergy of both people together."

Let's consider a love song from Taylor Swift's last album which was released in December 2020. The name of the song is "willow."

This song has no elements of a traditional love song. She doesn't say one nice thing about her future partner. Why? Because the following lyrics aren't about a real person but a dream, and this is it as far as nice things to say about her future partner.

"Head on the pillow, I could feel you sneaking in
As if you were a mythical thing
Like you were a trophy or a champion ring
And there was one prize I'd cheat to win"

Synergy between the partners? Promise of a happy future life?

Forget it. Her dream is a nightmare, and the entire song is downbeat, depressing, and bleak.

I don't mind this not being a traditional love song, but there's no joy or positive energy in it at all. It's very similar to the Dua Lipa love songs I discussed in this thread. It's as if these women feel obligated to have a romantic relationship but really don't want one at all.

This is a love song from a dystopia that I don't want to visit.


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