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Lisa Loeb looks pretty good for her age in that geico commercial.
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Patty Smyth is Smokin' Hot walking outside in this video from 1992.

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Watch that video between 40 and 50 seconds in. Daisy Fuentes who was one of the hottest women in America back then is shamelessly flirting with this guy in a very suggestive way on national TV.

There it is on video. That's what so many men say about how things were better back then. There was no shame for even the hottest women to instigate romance in a mature way. And they did it a lot. Because it was seen as two equals sparring for fun regardless of how serious the intentions were. You can see it in that video.

So much has been lost. I am so glad I am beyond this stuff, but I feel terrible for the younger generations.
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Watch that video between 40 and 50 seconds in. Daisy Fuentes who was one of the hottest women in America back then is shamelessly flirting with this guy in a very suggestive way on national TV.

There it is on video. That's what so many men say about how things were better back then. There was no shame for even the hottest women to instigate romance in a mature way. And they did it a lot. Because it was seen as two equals sparring for fun regardless of how serious the intentions were. You can see it in that video.

So much has been lost. I am so glad I am beyond this stuff, but I feel terrible for the younger generations.
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If it were the same situation between people that good-looking today, Daisy Fuentes isn't going to lower herself to flirting when she can get endless dates online without any effort. Back then, even the most attractive people had to flirt to get the dates they wanted.

And then you can see by the man's reaction in that video that he thought she was out of his league. If that situation happened today, the female would instigate nothing because of her dating app. The guy would continue to think she was out of his league forever. Nothing would ever happen between, and it's such a shame because they look so happy together.

Welcome to modern life.
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Watch that video between 40 and 50 seconds in. Daisy Fuentes who was one of the hottest women in America back then is shamelessly flirting with this guy in a very suggestive way on national TV.

There it is on video. That's what so many men say about how things were better back then. There was no shame for even the hottest women to instigate romance in a mature way. And they did it a lot. Because it was seen as two equals sparring for fun regardless of how serious the intentions were. You can see it in that video.

So much has been lost. I am so glad I am beyond this stuff, but I feel terrible for the younger generations.
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If it were the same situation between people that good-looking today, Daisy Fuentes isn't going to lower herself to flirting when she can get endless dates online without any effort. Back then, even the most attractive people had to flirt to get the dates they wanted.

And then you can see by the man's reaction in that video that he thought she was out of his league. If that situation happened today, the female would instigate nothing because of her dating app. The guy would continue to think she was out of his league forever. Nothing would ever happen between, and it's such a shame because they look so happy together.

Welcome to modern life.
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Does anyone have opinions on my theory?

I think flirting with strangers is degrading. I never do it because I think it is classless, but these days it is dangerous with hypersensitive SJWs out there.

I think women are lucky that they don't have to flirt anymore. I just think it has disadvantages just like with this video we're discussing. Probably every sane man in America thought Daisy Fuentes was out of his league. She probably had no choice but to send clear signals, or she would have possibly been alone. In the age of dating apps and the mentality that comes with them, I think that type of danger is greater than ever. Normal human interaction is disappearing.

Maybe 90s-type women are extinct?
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Continuing with more songs from the year 1990.

Heart got in the great philosophical song genre early on.


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In February 1990, we got this classic philosophical song.

One of the greatest of all time.


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Watch that video between 40 and 50 seconds in. Daisy Fuentes who was one of the hottest women in America back then is shamelessly flirting with this guy in a very suggestive way on national TV.

There it is on video. That's what so many men say about how things were better back then. There was no shame for even the hottest women to instigate romance in a mature way. And they did it a lot. Because it was seen as two equals sparring for fun regardless of how serious the intentions were. You can see it in that video.

So much has been lost. I am so glad I am beyond this stuff, but I feel terrible for the younger generations.
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There's a whole other level to this that just occurred to me.

Back then, since the woman had to put out an effort to get the dates she wanted, she wanted the guy to succeed because getting another date would take significant work. It was kind of like a company that hires new employees. They do whatever they can to help the employees succeed because finding replacements isn't cheap or efficient.

It's not like that anymore for attractive women who use dates sites and apps. With just swiping right or left, they have nothing invested in getting dates. Finding new guys is as easy as picking up their phones. Consequently, dates become disposable trash to attractive women.

I don't see how the birth rates and marriage rates haven't fallen off a cliff in that environment.
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Mariah Carey, the woman of the 90s, just appeared on the national scene in 1990. Another perfect "coincidence"?

Here we have another philosophy song that seems like a love song, but it's actually a philosophical statement about her view of the power of love.

Carey was an absolute goddess in the 90s.

From 1990...


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"Black Cat" by Janet Jackson is another excellent example of the 90s style and spirit.

This song was released in 1990, and I am kind of stunned as to how this particular style just arrived seemingly out of nowhere in the year 1990. We are still just scratching the surface of the year 1990 alone.


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I am not done with 1990 songs, but I just had this song recommended on YouTube.

This is about the most perfect example of everything we have discussed in this thread.

From 1991...


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They took our women and gave us dugongs .
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They took our women and gave us dugongs .
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It's so depressing looking at these videos and remembering how things were.

It might be impossible for young people today to believe, but the types of women like these pop stars were around everywhere in Southern California in the 90s. I can't speak for anywhere else.

I worked in a huge warehouse as a teen, and many of the women who were my colleagues were approximately as beautiful as these pop stars. The company I worked for hired lots of college students, and this thread is representative of how lots of those women were back then even at my menial job.

I know that will seem outrageous to many, but I think I could prove it with photos and videos of that time.
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Hopefully someone within these 10 pages has pointed out the changes in MEN too. Like, they used to exist. No real men in this country anymore. Also, the 90s were the beginning of the downfall. The alt rock scene, the goth trend... gross. Early 90s were great. Mid- to late-90s began changing our society for the worse. I can't believe "I hate my sister, she's such a bitch" is the example of how great women used to be. Puhlease
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Hopefully someone within these 10 pages has pointed out the changes in MEN too. Like, they used to exist. No real men in this country anymore. Also, the 90s were the beginning of the downfall. The alt rock scene, the goth trend... gross. Early 90s were great. Mid- to late-90s began changing our society for the worse. I can't believe "I hate my sister, she's such a bitch" is the example of how great women used to be. Puhlease
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It has only just begun .
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I seem to appreciate the 50's to 80's-type of women much more.

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I can't believe "I hate my sister, she's such a bitch" is the example of how great women used to be. Puhlease
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That song is epic poetry.

Picking apart the hopeful, brooding ruminations of the jangle-pop masterstroke could take hours because Hatfield, once and always a mystery, never had a sister. When Hatfield is calling her sister “such a bitch” or “the best,” she’s drawing from an amalgam of ideas — some real, like her friend who took her to her first all-ages show (the Violent Femmes and the “Del Foo-way-goes”), and some personal, such as wondering how others saw her. Ultimately, “My Sister” became a sensation anyway: A spot in MTV’s coveted Buzz Bin, a No. 1 Modern Rock single, and the cover of SPIN’s March 1994 issue. It was so popular, in fact, that Hatfield’s label, Atlantic, allowed another of its artists, folk singer Melissa Ferrick, to release a track titled “The Juliana Hatfield Song (Girls With Guitars)” that complained about its title character’s success.
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Hopefully someone within these 10 pages has pointed out the changes in MEN too.
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That's a worthy topic. The decline in male music has been even worse than the decline in female music in my opinion.

For example, Ariana Grande today is at least somewhat comparable to Mariah Carey in the 90s. Taylor Swift today is comparable to Madonna in the 90s.

If you look at the male musicians on this list:

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I can't think of any contemporary male musicians who are comparable to the top male musicians of the 90s or previously at all.
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Please expand on your point?
I don't get what you're saying.
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For example, No Doubt gave a free concert near where I lived in the mid-90s. I drove my sister and her friend to the concert, but I just stayed in the car because Gwen Stefani didn't even seem like anything special to me then. Looking back, that's insane because she was so gorgeous and cool and talented, but back then I thought of her as just a little above average. I am not exaggerating at all.

The thing is, there is no one like Gwen Stefani in her prime around anymore. Do you see what I mean?

This is video of a No Doubt show around that time.


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If one has to jump and do back flips while singing, that's a hint that the person's singing can't stand on its own.

The instrumental backup wasn't so hot, either.
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Please expand on your point?
I don't get what you're saying.
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For example, No Doubt gave a free concert near where I lived in the mid-90s. I drove my sister and her friend to the concert, but I just stayed in the car because Gwen Stefani didn't even seem like anything special to me then. Looking back, that's insane because she was so gorgeous and cool and talented, but back then I thought of her as just a little above average. I am not exaggerating at all.

The thing is, there is no one like Gwen Stefani in her prime around anymore. Do you see what I mean?

This is video of a No Doubt show around that time.


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If one has to jump and do back flips while singing, that's a hint that the person's singing can't stand on its own.

The instrumental backup wasn't so hot, either.
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You're the first person in this thread who is questioning No Doubt's musicianship because you don't know about them. First, that's a terrible recording of that concert. Second, they didn't always dance in concert, and even if they did, it's not relevant. Third, their music improved. I think this song and video by them a couple of years after that concert is perfect. They have lots of great songs. This song was released in 1997, so it fits this thread.


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This song and music video are perfect examples of not just how 90s women are extinct among young people today. It's a perfect example of how everything back then is extinct among young people today.

No Doubt was proud to be a garage band. They were one of the biggest bands in the world at the time of that music video, and they were performing in an actual garage in that video. Pop stars today are the opposite of that. They just want to make an ostentatious display of their success as much as possible.

We also have Gwen Stefani's completely unique fashion at that time. In the comments to that video, people are saying Stefani was wearing 1940s clothing there. Regardless of the specifics, she was different than else in pop music at the time, and she didn't care. She was going to express herself her way regardless of what anyone thought. Pop stars are like clones today in terms of fashion.

Another important point is that the band wrote the song "Sunday Morning" by themselves. I don't remember the last time I saw a big pop act with a song they wrote themselves without an outside songwriter co-writing or completely writing the song.
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Please expand on your point?
I don't get what you're saying.
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Dating in the 90s was a cakewalk compared to the present day dating scene dumpster fire. Women in the 90s were more down to earth and easier to talk to.
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No kidding today even the ugly ones got an attitude.

The younger ones are all cardi b tramps looking for a sugar daddy to use for drug money.
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We also have Gwen Stefani's completely unique fashion at that time. In the comments to that video, people are saying Stefani was wearing 1940s clothing there. Regardless of the specifics, she was different than else in pop music at the time, and she didn't care. She was going to express herself her way regardless of what anyone thought. Pop stars are like clones today in terms of fashion.
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This point is baffling to me. Why don't contemporary musicians wear clothing from past eras?

I guess it's not hip anymore. It wasn't hip in the 90s to wear what's apparently 1940s style clothing like Stefani, but that gets back to a major issue of this thread:

In the 90s, being yourself was hip in itself. Self-expression was cool. It wasn't that the fashion you were wearing was cool. It was that your self-expression made you cool regardless of what you were expressing (within reason). I think that was a unique thing in the 90s, and it disappeared afterward.
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The last time I spoke to someone about the 90s, they told me it was time when everyone felt very hopeful and positive about the future as if something great was about to happen.

Even in this kind of corny song, it describes that feeling perfectly.

She asks right in the middle of the song, "Why do I feel this way?" That didn't seem profound at the time, but it's incredibly profound now. We were all being hit with a magical energy that we couldn't understand in my opinion.
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The last time I spoke to someone about the 90s, they told me it was time when everyone felt very hopeful and positive about the future as if something great was about to happen.

Even in this kind of corny song, it describes that feeling perfectly.

She asks right in the middle of the song, "Why do I feel this way?" That didn't seem profound at the time, but it's incredibly profound now. We were all being hit with a magical energy that we couldn't understand in my opinion.
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Bwahaha - this video does sum up most women now, sadly and is a precursor to airbrushing image altering and app editing. This video was compressed sideways and stretched out and only to hide how fat she thought she was and she was bulimic. You couldn't have picked a sadder video to try to illustrate your point about how different women were then than now.
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The last time I spoke to someone about the 90s, they told me it was time when everyone felt very hopeful and positive about the future as if something great was about to happen.

Even in this kind of corny song, it describes that feeling perfectly.

She asks right in the middle of the song, "Why do I feel this way?" That didn't seem profound at the time, but it's incredibly profound now. We were all being hit with a magical energy that we couldn't understand in my opinion.
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Bwahaha - this video does sum up most women now, sadly and is a precursor to airbrushing image altering and app editing. This video was compressed sideways and stretched out and only to hide how fat she thought she was and she was bulimic. You couldn't have picked a sadder video to try to illustrate your point about how different women were then than now.
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How can you completely ignore the message of the song, and just focus on the music video? That song has a powerful message that described the time period very well.

Paula Abdul released this video a couple of months before the one you are discussing. She was not fat at that time in the slightest. You're making things up.


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The last time I spoke to someone about the 90s, they told me it was time when everyone felt very hopeful and positive about the future as if something great was about to happen.

Even in this kind of corny song, it describes that feeling perfectly.

She asks right in the middle of the song, "Why do I feel this way?" That didn't seem profound at the time, but it's incredibly profound now. We were all being hit with a magical energy that we couldn't understand in my opinion.
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Bwahaha - this video does sum up most women now, sadly and is a precursor to airbrushing image altering and app editing. This video was compressed sideways and stretched out and only to hide how fat she thought she was and she was bulimic. You couldn't have picked a sadder video to try to illustrate your point about how different women were then than now.
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How can you completely ignore the message of the song, and just focus on the music video? That song has a powerful message that described the time period very well.

Paula Abdul released this video a couple of months before the one you are discussing. She was not fat at that time in the slightest. You're making things up.


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You were discussing the video - you brought it up. The thread title is 90s type women are extinct. Women are the same now as then - they all think they're fat and will use digital trickery to hide it.
I did not say I thought she was fat, I said she did and was a bulimic. And she was for at least 20 30 years. I most certainly am not making it up. I know what I'm talking about. I had paula abdul posters on the wall as a kid and danced and sang into a remote control as a mic in front of her videos - there was no bigger fan than me. You're the one
'missing a powerful message'.
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You were discussing the video - you brought it up.
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I wrote that YouTube recommended that video to me, but I didn't comment on the video. I only commented on the song.

The thread title is 90s type women are extinct. Women are the same now as then - they all think they're fat and will use digital trickery to hide it.
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You missed the point of this thread. The point is that 90s-type women are extinct among the younger generations. It's not about appearance primarily although that's part of it.

The big issues here are the style, spirit, values, etc. of the 90s being dead among the younger generations.
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You were discussing the video - you brought it up.
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I wrote that YouTube recommended that video to me, but I didn't comment on the video. I only commented on the song.

The thread title is 90s type women are extinct. Women are the same now as then - they all think they're fat and will use digital trickery to hide it.
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You missed the point of this thread. The point is that 90s-type women are extinct among the younger generations. It's not about appearance primarily although that's part of it.

The big issues here are the style, spirit, values, etc. of the 90s being dead among the younger generations.
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Ok pal. Gee, what would I, a woman throughout these time periods know about women then and now and how 'spirit
and values' change? Example - I HAD spirit and values when I adored her and her music as a child having fun dancing and singing, then you grow up and see the world for the pack of lies and garbage that it really is. How could you NOT be disillusioned ESPECIALLY by the very same people you looked up too?





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