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Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.

 
Anonymous Coward
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06/04/2021 09:22 PM
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Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
I think the fake lumber shortage will be exposed soon.


Don't ya think I should buy that property that I am stewing about and just build a nice home?

To be honest I don't have a builder yet~

What are your thoughts?




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06/04/2021 09:25 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
pise de terre
thats french, for rammed earth.
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06/04/2021 09:33 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
Go to craigslist and buy some kind of rv.


The kind that don't run can be towed.
And/or...
Get a premade big shed and let it be your "barn".(wink,wink)

Don't contribute to the nonsense.

Because once you pay the Dane geld, you never get rid of the Dane. (Look it up)
Sodbuster

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06/04/2021 09:36 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
Our financial advisor is telling all of his clients to not buy or sell homes right now. Sell high, buy high. Time to just wait it out.
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Fluffy Pancakes

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06/04/2021 09:44 PM

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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
Ummmm....No. Lumber is so over inflated it is beyond prohibitive. If you can buy the land at a fair price, ok. And learn to build out of what is available on the land.

Otherwise, well...NO.
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy

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06/04/2021 09:53 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
pise de terre
thats french, for rammed earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77951331


Holy Cow cool!

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06/04/2021 09:58 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
Our financial advisor is telling all of his clients to not buy or sell homes right now. Sell high, buy high. Time to just wait it out.
 Quoting: Sodbuster



It sucks!

What is the fun in getting big money for your home, only to struggle to replace it in another market. Uuuhg.



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06/04/2021 10:02 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
Go to craigslist and buy some kind of rv.


The kind that don't run can be towed.
And/or...
Get a premade big shed and let it be your "barn".(wink,wink)

Don't contribute to the nonsense.

Because once you pay the Dane geld, you never get rid of the Dane. (Look it up)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16981037


“Pay the Danegeld, never be rid of the Dane,” is an old saying about the dangers of appeasement and avoiding the tough decisions. If you deal with your commitments by working harder, longer hours, or sacrificing more important things in favor of the loud and immediate, you are in danger of paying the Danegeld.



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06/04/2021 10:03 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
Wood prices.

Thank you.

Game over.
Fugazi World
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06/04/2021 10:05 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
Ummmm....No. Lumber is so over inflated it is beyond prohibitive. If you can buy the land at a fair price, ok. And learn to build out of what is available on the land.

Otherwise, well...NO.
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06/04/2021 10:07 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
Wood prices.

Thank you.

Game over.
 Quoting: Fugazi World


Butttt what about all of those lumber yards that actually do have lumber.. when are they going to expose the conspiracy!!


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06/04/2021 10:18 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
study rammed earth, any questions, feel free to ask..i built one, yearrrrrs ago... [link to www.saiglobal.com (secure)]
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06/04/2021 10:20 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
Steel is almost as affordable now. Build it like a commercial building. Then you can watch a tornado kick your neighbor's house over yours.
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06/04/2021 10:21 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
pise de terre
thats french, for rammed earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77951331


Holy Cow cool!


 Quoting: Raylie Ann


see, id put a bevel in the formwork corners and rebate the windows in, but thats just me..say @30 seconds?
90 degree edges are weathering prone
45 degree, less so.
good for the muscles too.
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06/04/2021 10:24 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
If you need a builder then you are not building a home. Rather, you are having a home built. Why would you do that, friend?
Fluffy Pancakes

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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
Look, the amount of actual wood in the world isn't relevant to the prices atm. If you live near saw mills, you may be able to buy lumber from the mill. But the market is controlled not by those who produce but by those who constrain.

So, at this point, unless you can buy from a mill or cut it yourself, unless you are filthy rich, wood isn't affordable for building.

But there are other methods.

The lumber isn't going to be available at a fair price until the program runs it's course. So think outside of the box. Get creative.
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy

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06/04/2021 10:37 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
If the land is reasonably priced .... get it now and build later.

With the way lumber has gone up up up in pricing it may now be cheaper to build out of steel, ala commercial grade construction, than out of wood.

In any case building something new is generally more expensive than rebuilding an existing structure (with solid good bones) to your standards. If you don't have kids you can go into the cheaper taxes school district with the lower quality schools where the homes sell for less and buildable non agricultural land sells for less.

If you have kids generally you will want to "pay up" and pay a higher price (for existing house or buildable non agricultural land) so as to get the better schools for your kids. No free lunch in other words. In an area with better schools the houses and the land to build on is generally going to be pricier, sometimes a LOT pricier!!

fwiw: When a BAD housing market comes along the area with the BEST schools usually holds up the best, both wrt to pricing and the ability to sell. In my area during the 2008-2010 RE crunch down the houses in our two best school districts did NOT go down at all, in fact pricing in both continued to go UP, while the rest of the urban area went down by about 20% (some areas, including some newly built areas, by 33%).
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06/04/2021 10:40 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
If you need a builder then you are not building a home. Rather, you are having a home built. Why would you do that, friend?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80424115


he's rich
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
If you need a builder then you are not building a home. Rather, you are having a home built. Why would you do that, friend?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80424115


he's rich
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318

oh, i thought op was a "she" and yeah, was gonna commission some outback outsider to ram her home
just sayin
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06/04/2021 10:46 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
I crave land.

I could do wonderful things with land but I hardly have two cents to rub together so I guess it's never going to happen for me.
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06/04/2021 10:50 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
pise de terre
thats french, for rammed earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77951331


I've always wanted to build an earthbag home.

Multi-dome designs are earthquake resistant & don't need any lumber.

Just bags, dirt, and barbed wire. Optional- a little wood framing for windows and plaster for a nice exterior.


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06/04/2021 11:20 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
Steel is almost as affordable now. Build it like a commercial building. Then you can watch a tornado kick your neighbor's house over yours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78827598


chuckle
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06/04/2021 11:21 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
If you need a builder then you are not building a home. Rather, you are having a home built. Why would you do that, friend?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80424115


Because I am wise enough to know, that I don't know anything about building a home.
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06/04/2021 11:30 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
If the land is reasonably priced .... get it now and build later.

With the way lumber has gone up up up in pricing it may now be cheaper to build out of steel, ala commercial grade construction, than out of wood.

In any case building something new is generally more expensive than rebuilding an existing structure (with solid good bones) to your standards. If you don't have kids you can go into the cheaper taxes school district with the lower quality schools where the homes sell for less and buildable non agricultural land sells for less.

If you have kids generally you will want to "pay up" and pay a higher price (for existing house or buildable non agricultural land) so as to get the better schools for your kids. No free lunch in other words. In an area with better schools the houses and the land to build on is generally going to be pricier, sometimes a LOT pricier!!

fwiw: When a BAD housing market comes along the area with the BEST schools usually holds up the best, both wrt to pricing and the ability to sell. In my area during the 2008-2010 RE crunch down the houses in our two best school districts did NOT go down at all, in fact pricing in both continued to go UP, while the rest of the urban area went down by about 20% (some areas, including some newly built areas, by 33%).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79096761


I have to admit for the first time in my life I am free of the school district scenario. The community we are moving to attracts tourists so it may help buffer the housing market swing, not just the great schools.

I agree now is the time to buy an existing home and do whatever to it and it will still be cheaper than the inflated everything to build...

Still I dream.
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06/04/2021 11:34 PM
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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
If you need a builder then you are not building a home. Rather, you are having a home built. Why would you do that, friend?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80424115


Because I am wise enough to know, that I don't know anything about building a home.
 Quoting: Raylie Ann


Can you use/operate a chainsaw ?

Swing a hammer/axe ?

Maybe it’s a challenge for you at this time.

Treehouse Masters is a great American show.

One day I’ll live in the trees..

All the best OP

hf
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06/05/2021 07:45 AM

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Re: Feeling stubborn and want to build a house~ talk me out of it.
Steel is almost as affordable now. Build it like a commercial building. Then you can watch a tornado kick your neighbor's house over yours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78827598


Banks don't build with wood, they are usually masonry. I don't think that masonry has gone up as much.
Rammed earth is for energetic people to build. I'm thinking about dry stacked block with a proprietary bonding system.

On the picture of the rammed earth house, it doesn't matter what you build with if you have that much glass, it's going to cost a lot.
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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