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How IVERMECTIN defends against the SPIKE PROTEIN from both the VIRUS and the VACCINE!!!

 
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thanks OP. for any fence-sitters about ivermectin:

Ivermectin for COVID-19: real-time meta analysis of 57 studies

[link to ivmmeta.com (secure)]
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I posted this on my ivermectin thread, but I thought this discussion needs its own thread...so here it is ...

There is reasonably solid evidence that ivermectin docks to the spike protein itself to prevent binding to the ACE2 receptor which is the primary pathology causing the tissue damage and clots related to SARS-CoV-2. Therefore, this is also an implication that this ability of ivermectin to disable the binding of the Spike protein including the vaccine-produced spike proteins.
This binding of ivermectin to disable the spike protein is also preserved even with the newer spike protein mutations, but its activity against the original Wuhan spike protein,(the one vaccines were designed to produce) is fairly well studied at this point.


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Total bullshit. The vaccine created spike protein does not bind to Ace2 receptors. It's not a virus. Its a protein molecule that triggers an immune response. It attaches to the deltoid muscle tissue and does not travel in the body. Enough of these lies you vaccine tard.
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Bullshit to you, the Salk paper disagrees with you;

[link to www.salk.edu (secure)]

"The team then replicated this process in the lab, exposing healthy endothelial cells (which line arteries) to the spike protein. They showed that the spike protein damaged the cells by binding ACE2. This binding disrupted ACE2’s molecular signaling to mitochondria (organelles that generate energy for cells), causing the mitochondria to become damaged and fragmented."

"Previous studies have shown a similar effect when cells were exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but this is the first study to show that the damage occurs when cells are exposed to the spike protein on its own."

Also, you might want to watch the video on this thread, credible information, credible Ph.D., the spike protein does not stay in the deltoid, the VAERS reports and reports on cardiac inflammation (myocarditis problems) support this.

Thread: DR. BYRAM BRIDLE “We made a big mistake” explains spike proteins.
 Quoting: emerald eye

The vaccine generated spike protein only needs to find a cell to present itself, so antibodies can target and destroy it(with some help from macrophages). Does it even use the ACE2 for that? It could use it if it wanted.
 Quoting: uscrusader1


As the paper above states, the spike protein does not need the rest of the virus to bind to the ACE2 receptor, this is one of the reasons this discussion is so important.

"Previous studies have shown a similar effect when cells were exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but this is the first study to show that the damage occurs when cells are exposed to the spike protein on its own."

The binding of the free spike protein from ANY source then causes the damage cascade by damaging the mitochondria of the cell.

"The team then replicated this process in the lab, exposing healthy endothelial cells (which line arteries) to the spike protein. They showed that the spike protein damaged the cells by binding ACE2. This binding disrupted ACE2’s molecular signaling to mitochondria (organelles that generate energy for cells), causing the mitochondria to become damaged and fragmented."

You do not want mitochondria "damaged and fragmented" because the cells cannot function properly.

"Mitochondria are membrane bound organelles present in almost all eukaryotic cells. Responsible for orchestrating cellular energy production, they are central to the maintenance of life and the gatekeepers of cell death."

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

This paper is so important because it showed how the spike protein independently damaged the endothelial cells of the vascular system. Covid 19 is now recognized as a vascular disease, and the cardiovascular complications are a trigger for much if not all of the other pathology.

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Total bullshit. The vaccine created spike protein does not bind to Ace2 receptors. It's not a virus. Its a protein molecule that triggers an immune response. It attaches to the deltoid muscle tissue and does not travel in the body. Enough of these lies you vaccine tard.
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Bullshit to you, the Salk paper disagrees with you;

[link to www.salk.edu (secure)]

"The team then replicated this process in the lab, exposing healthy endothelial cells (which line arteries) to the spike protein. They showed that the spike protein damaged the cells by binding ACE2. This binding disrupted ACE2’s molecular signaling to mitochondria (organelles that generate energy for cells), causing the mitochondria to become damaged and fragmented."

"Previous studies have shown a similar effect when cells were exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but this is the first study to show that the damage occurs when cells are exposed to the spike protein on its own."

Also, you might want to watch the video on this thread, credible information, credible Ph.D., the spike protein does not stay in the deltoid, the VAERS reports and reports on cardiac inflammation (myocarditis problems) support this.

Thread: DR. BYRAM BRIDLE “We made a big mistake” explains spike proteins.
 Quoting: emerald eye

The vaccine generated spike protein only needs to find a cell to present itself, so antibodies can target and destroy it(with some help from macrophages). Does it even use the ACE2 for that? It could use it if it wanted.
 Quoting: uscrusader1


As the paper above states, the spike protein does not need the rest of the virus to bind to the ACE2 receptor, this is one of the reasons this discussion is so important.

"Previous studies have shown a similar effect when cells were exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but this is the first study to show that the damage occurs when cells are exposed to the spike protein on its own."

The binding of the free spike protein from ANY source then causes the damage cascade by damaging the mitochondria of the cell.

"The team then replicated this process in the lab, exposing healthy endothelial cells (which line arteries) to the spike protein. They showed that the spike protein damaged the cells by binding ACE2. This binding disrupted ACE2’s molecular signaling to mitochondria (organelles that generate energy for cells), causing the mitochondria to become damaged and fragmented."

You do not want mitochondria "damaged and fragmented" because the cells cannot function properly.

"Mitochondria are membrane bound organelles present in almost all eukaryotic cells. Responsible for orchestrating cellular energy production, they are central to the maintenance of life and the gatekeepers of cell death."

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

This paper is so important because it showed how the spike protein independently damaged the endothelial cells of the vascular system. Covid 19 is now recognized as a vascular disease,


and the cardiovascular complications are a trigger for much if not all of the other pathology.
 Quoting: emerald eye

The vax generated spike proteins are same as existing human proteins in the blood that regulate coagulation. The antibody response to the vax generated spike is destroying the human protein as well, causing the blood clots.

could this be a result of the Mitochondria damage?

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This info should be pinned.
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Bullshit to you, the Salk paper disagrees with you;

[link to www.salk.edu (secure)]

"The team then replicated this process in the lab, exposing healthy endothelial cells (which line arteries) to the spike protein. They showed that the spike protein damaged the cells by binding ACE2. This binding disrupted ACE2’s molecular signaling to mitochondria (organelles that generate energy for cells), causing the mitochondria to become damaged and fragmented."

"Previous studies have shown a similar effect when cells were exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but this is the first study to show that the damage occurs when cells are exposed to the spike protein on its own."

Also, you might want to watch the video on this thread, credible information, credible Ph.D., the spike protein does not stay in the deltoid, the VAERS reports and reports on cardiac inflammation (myocarditis problems) support this.

Thread: DR. BYRAM BRIDLE “We made a big mistake” explains spike proteins.
 Quoting: emerald eye

The vaccine generated spike protein only needs to find a cell to present itself, so antibodies can target and destroy it(with some help from macrophages). Does it even use the ACE2 for that? It could use it if it wanted.
 Quoting: uscrusader1


As the paper above states, the spike protein does not need the rest of the virus to bind to the ACE2 receptor, this is one of the reasons this discussion is so important.

"Previous studies have shown a similar effect when cells were exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but this is the first study to show that the damage occurs when cells are exposed to the spike protein on its own."

The binding of the free spike protein from ANY source then causes the damage cascade by damaging the mitochondria of the cell.

"The team then replicated this process in the lab, exposing healthy endothelial cells (which line arteries) to the spike protein. They showed that the spike protein damaged the cells by binding ACE2. This binding disrupted ACE2’s molecular signaling to mitochondria (organelles that generate energy for cells), causing the mitochondria to become damaged and fragmented."

You do not want mitochondria "damaged and fragmented" because the cells cannot function properly.

"Mitochondria are membrane bound organelles present in almost all eukaryotic cells. Responsible for orchestrating cellular energy production, they are central to the maintenance of life and the gatekeepers of cell death."

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

This paper is so important because it showed how the spike protein independently damaged the endothelial cells of the vascular system. Covid 19 is now recognized as a vascular disease,


and the cardiovascular complications are a trigger for much if not all of the other pathology.
 Quoting: emerald eye

The vax generated spike proteins are same as existing human proteins in the blood that regulate coagulation. The antibody response to the vax generated spike is destroying the human protein as well, causing the blood clots.

could this be a result of the Mitochondria damage?
 Quoting: uscrusader1


Your question:
"The vax generated spike proteins are same as existing human proteins in the blood that regulate coagulation. The antibody response to the vax generated spike is destroying the human protein as well, causing the blood clots.

could this be a result of the Mitochondria damage?"


Yes, and the damage appears to be the same to the mitochondria when the spike protein binds to the ACE2 receptor whether it is spike protein on the surface of the virus or spike protein from another source on its own.

You are getting the bigger picture now, ivermectin
prevents binding of all of the spike protein, no matter what the variant or source to the ACE2 receptors.


The above may be one of the best explanations for ivermectin being vilified by MSM and its discussions blocked by Youtube; that and the profits of the vaccine shareholders, because ivermectin is better at preventing the illness than the current vaccines with much less risk and a massively long safety record with many fewer deaths than even the VAERS data admits from the vaccines; which is arguably only the tip of the iceberg.

Dr. Kory discusses this here, near the end of this video:
[link to covid19criticalcare.com (secure)]


All of this may have been known when the virus was manufactured, first in North Carolina and then transferred to Wuhan that goes beyond the scope of the current discussion.

Some of it is alluded to in multiple GLP threads, I have copies of the paper discussed in this video before the papers were pulled it's solid science, the HIV inserts were no accident.

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As always, none of my posts constitute medical advice but are merely intended for entertainment and discussion purposes. hf

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So we now have to take Ivermectin on a routine basis to protect ourselves from the virus and the vaxxed.
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I updated the title to one that is more descriptive and accurate. I was in a hurry when I posted this...apologies.
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Bullshit to you, the Salk paper disagrees with you;

[link to www.salk.edu (secure)]

"The team then replicated this process in the lab, exposing healthy endothelial cells (which line arteries) to the spike protein. They showed that the spike protein damaged the cells by binding ACE2. This binding disrupted ACE2’s molecular signaling to mitochondria (organelles that generate energy for cells), causing the mitochondria to become damaged and fragmented."

"Previous studies have shown a similar effect when cells were exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but this is the first study to show that the damage occurs when cells are exposed to the spike protein on its own."

Also, you might want to watch the video on this thread, credible information, credible Ph.D., the spike protein does not stay in the deltoid, the VAERS reports and reports on cardiac inflammation (myocarditis problems) support this.

Thread: DR. BYRAM BRIDLE “We made a big mistake” explains spike proteins.
 Quoting: emerald eye

The vaccine generated spike protein only needs to find a cell to present itself, so antibodies can target and destroy it(with some help from macrophages). Does it even use the ACE2 for that? It could use it if it wanted.
 Quoting: uscrusader1


As the paper above states, the spike protein does not need the rest of the virus to bind to the ACE2 receptor, this is one of the reasons this discussion is so important.

"Previous studies have shown a similar effect when cells were exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but this is the first study to show that the damage occurs when cells are exposed to the spike protein on its own."

The binding of the free spike protein from ANY source then causes the damage cascade by damaging the mitochondria of the cell.

"The team then replicated this process in the lab, exposing healthy endothelial cells (which line arteries) to the spike protein. They showed that the spike protein damaged the cells by binding ACE2. This binding disrupted ACE2’s molecular signaling to mitochondria (organelles that generate energy for cells), causing the mitochondria to become damaged and fragmented."

You do not want mitochondria "damaged and fragmented" because the cells cannot function properly.

"Mitochondria are membrane bound organelles present in almost all eukaryotic cells. Responsible for orchestrating cellular energy production, they are central to the maintenance of life and the gatekeepers of cell death."

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

This paper is so important because it showed how the spike protein independently damaged the endothelial cells of the vascular system. Covid 19 is now recognized as a vascular disease,


and the cardiovascular complications are a trigger for much if not all of the other pathology.
 Quoting: emerald eye

The vax generated spike proteins are same as existing human proteins in the blood that regulate coagulation. The antibody response to the vax generated spike is destroying the human protein as well, causing the blood clots.

could this be a result of the Mitochondria damage?
 Quoting: uscrusader1



Incorrect, sir or madam. The protein in question was not even discovered until aids research began
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Where can we get Ivermectin if no Drs will prescribe it?
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America’s frontline doctors are prescribing it. Go to their website.
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It's not hard to find. Been around for 45 years, keep digging
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Good stuff OP!!!
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My experience with the vaxxxx ( JnJ) was a complete nothing burger, and I credit my being on ivermectin, plus high Vit D3 zinc and C.

When DD decided to do the JnJ ( her adult decision) I put her on ivermectin a week before.

No evidence, just a hunch eventually it would be proved to be effective protection against non-covid spike protein disease induced by the vaxxx
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Awesome info, thank you OP. How long does the spike protein last after leaving the individual's body (breathing, shedding, etc)?

If a bunch of vaxxed people gathered in a room, how long do you have to wait before the room becomes safe for unvaxxed to enter ?
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The vaccine generated spike protein only needs to find a cell to present itself, so antibodies can target and destroy it(with some help from macrophages). Does it even use the ACE2 for that? It could use it if it wanted.
 Quoting: uscrusader1


As the paper above states, the spike protein does not need the rest of the virus to bind to the ACE2 receptor, this is one of the reasons this discussion is so important.

"Previous studies have shown a similar effect when cells were exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but this is the first study to show that the damage occurs when cells are exposed to the spike protein on its own."

The binding of the free spike protein from ANY source then causes the damage cascade by damaging the mitochondria of the cell.

"The team then replicated this process in the lab, exposing healthy endothelial cells (which line arteries) to the spike protein. They showed that the spike protein damaged the cells by binding ACE2. This binding disrupted ACE2’s molecular signaling to mitochondria (organelles that generate energy for cells), causing the mitochondria to become damaged and fragmented."

You do not want mitochondria "damaged and fragmented" because the cells cannot function properly.

"Mitochondria are membrane bound organelles present in almost all eukaryotic cells. Responsible for orchestrating cellular energy production, they are central to the maintenance of life and the gatekeepers of cell death."

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

This paper is so important because it showed how the spike protein independently damaged the endothelial cells of the vascular system. Covid 19 is now recognized as a vascular disease,


and the cardiovascular complications are a trigger for much if not all of the other pathology.
 Quoting: emerald eye

The vax generated spike proteins are same as existing human proteins in the blood that regulate coagulation. The antibody response to the vax generated spike is destroying the human protein as well, causing the blood clots.

could this be a result of the Mitochondria damage?
 Quoting: uscrusader1



Incorrect, sir or madam. The protein in question was not even discovered until aids research began
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I can back up the statements I make, they are correct, and it's madam. The engineering for this virus was underway in 2015, HIV viral genome was sequenced before then; so the point you are trying to make is not entirely clear. However, thanks for helping me to keep this important thread on the first page, although I am pretty sure that is not your real intent hf


"Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research
Lab-made coronavirus related to SARS can infect human cells.


Declan Butler,12 November 2015"
Less than 50% quoted, emphasis mine.

"An experiment that created a hybrid version of a bat coronavirus — one related to the virus that causes SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) — has triggered renewed debate over whether engineering lab variants of viruses with possible pandemic potential is worth the risks.

In an article published in Nature Medicine1 on 9 November, scientists investigated a virus called SHC014, which is found in horseshoe bats in China. The researchers created a chimaeric virus, made up of a surface protein of SHC014 and the backbone of a SARS virus that had been adapted to grow in mice and to mimic human disease. The chimaera infected human airway cells — proving that the surface protein of SHC014 has the necessary structure to bind to a key receptor on the cells and to infect them. It also caused disease in mice, but did not kill them."

"But other virologists question whether the information gleaned from the experiment justifies the potential risk. Although the extent of any risk is difficult to assess, Simon Wain-Hobson, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, points out that the researchers have created a novel virus that “grows remarkably well” in human cells. “If the virus escaped, nobody could predict the trajectory,” he says."

[link to www.nature.com (secure)]
12 November 2015


I have the full paper of this...even though the full paper has now been removed from the internet:

"Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag
Prashant Pradhan, Ashutosh Kumar Pandey, Akhilesh Mishra, Parul Gupta, Praveen Kumar Tripathi, Manoj Balakrishnan Menon, James Gomes, Perumal Vivekanandan, Bishwajit Kundu
doi: [link to doi.org (secure)]

"We are currently witnessing a major epidemic caused by the 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV). The evolution of 2019-nCoV remains elusive. We found 4 insertions in the spike glycoprotein (S) which are unique to the 2019-nCoV and are not present in other coronaviruses. Importantly, amino acid residues in all the 4 inserts have identity or similarity to those in the HIV-1 gp120 or HIV-1 Gag. Interestingly, despite the inserts being discontinuous on the primary amino acid sequence, 3D-modelling of the 2019-nCoV suggests that they converge to constitute the receptor binding site. The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity /similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature. This work provides yet unknown insights on 2019-nCoV and sheds light on the evolution and pathogenicity of this virus with important implications for diagnosis of this virus."
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Is it reasonable to think that if I am forced to get the Vax, that a course of ivermectin could minimize potential damage? Seems so to my uneducated mind.
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Awesome info, thank you OP. How long does the spike protein last after leaving the individual's body (breathing, shedding, etc)?

If a bunch of vaxxed people gathered in a room, how long do you have to wait before the room becomes safe for unvaxxed to enter ?
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Thats a great question and one that is hard to find the answer for, but after vaccination, the spike protein is found in low levels on day 1 and peaks in 5 days and then dissipates in most by day 14.


"To conduct their study, Walt and colleagues measured levels of SARS-CoV-2 protein subunits in plasma samples collected from 13 participants who received two doses of the Moderna (mRNA-1273) vaccine.

Specifically, the team measured levels of SARS-CoV-2 antigens Spike, S1, and Nucleocapsid. The team examined plasma collected at 10-13 timepoints between 1 and 29 days after the first injection and 1-28 days after the second injection. The average age of participants was 24 and the percentage of female participants was 46.

"The team found that 11-of-13 participants had low levels of SARS-CoV-2 protein (S1 subunit) as early as one day post-vaccination. S1 subunit protein level peaked on average five days after the first injection. In all participants, the level of S1 protein declined and became undetectable by day 14. Spike protein was detected in 3-of-13 participants an average of 15 days after the first injection. After the second vaccine dose, no S1 or Spike was detectable."

[link to www.sciencedaily.com (secure)]

I would like to point out that this study specifically measured the S-1 spike protein in plasma, which is in the bloodstream, not the deltoid muscle as it is sometimes being claimed that the effect of the vaccine is only localized to the deltoid muscle. We know that is not true.

As always my posts are not intended as medical advice but presented only for entertainment and discussion purposes.

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As the paper above states, the spike protein does not need the rest of the virus to bind to the ACE2 receptor, this is one of the reasons this discussion is so important.

"Previous studies have shown a similar effect when cells were exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, but this is the first study to show that the damage occurs when cells are exposed to the spike protein on its own."

The binding of the free spike protein from ANY source then causes the damage cascade by damaging the mitochondria of the cell.

"The team then replicated this process in the lab, exposing healthy endothelial cells (which line arteries) to the spike protein. They showed that the spike protein damaged the cells by binding ACE2. This binding disrupted ACE2’s molecular signaling to mitochondria (organelles that generate energy for cells), causing the mitochondria to become damaged and fragmented."

You do not want mitochondria "damaged and fragmented" because the cells cannot function properly.

"Mitochondria are membrane bound organelles present in almost all eukaryotic cells. Responsible for orchestrating cellular energy production, they are central to the maintenance of life and the gatekeepers of cell death."

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

This paper is so important because it showed how the spike protein independently damaged the endothelial cells of the vascular system. Covid 19 is now recognized as a vascular disease,


and the cardiovascular complications are a trigger for much if not all of the other pathology.
 Quoting: emerald eye

The vax generated spike proteins are same as existing human proteins in the blood that regulate coagulation. The antibody response to the vax generated spike is destroying the human protein as well, causing the blood clots.

could this be a result of the Mitochondria damage?
 Quoting: uscrusader1



Incorrect, sir or madam. The protein in question was not even discovered until aids research began
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I can back up the statements I make, they are correct, and it's madam. The engineering for this virus was underway in 2015, HIV viral genome was sequenced before then; so the point you are trying to make is not entirely clear. However, thanks for helping me to keep this important thread on the first page, although I am pretty sure that is not your real intent hf


"Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research
Lab-made coronavirus related to SARS can infect human cells.


Declan Butler,12 November 2015"
Less than 50% quoted, emphasis mine.

"An experiment that created a hybrid version of a bat coronavirus — one related to the virus that causes SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) — has triggered renewed debate over whether engineering lab variants of viruses with possible pandemic potential is worth the risks.

In an article published in Nature Medicine1 on 9 November, scientists investigated a virus called SHC014, which is found in horseshoe bats in China. The researchers created a chimaeric virus, made up of a surface protein of SHC014 and the backbone of a SARS virus that had been adapted to grow in mice and to mimic human disease. The chimaera infected human airway cells — proving that the surface protein of SHC014 has the necessary structure to bind to a key receptor on the cells and to infect them. It also caused disease in mice, but did not kill them."

"But other virologists question whether the information gleaned from the experiment justifies the potential risk. Although the extent of any risk is difficult to assess, Simon Wain-Hobson, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, points out that the researchers have created a novel virus that “grows remarkably well” in human cells. “If the virus escaped, nobody could predict the trajectory,” he says."

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12 November 2015


I have the full paper of this...even though the full paper has now been removed from the internet:

"Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag
Prashant Pradhan, Ashutosh Kumar Pandey, Akhilesh Mishra, Parul Gupta, Praveen Kumar Tripathi, Manoj Balakrishnan Menon, James Gomes, Perumal Vivekanandan, Bishwajit Kundu
doi: [link to doi.org (secure)]

"We are currently witnessing a major epidemic caused by the 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV). The evolution of 2019-nCoV remains elusive. We found 4 insertions in the spike glycoprotein (S) which are unique to the 2019-nCoV and are not present in other coronaviruses. Importantly, amino acid residues in all the 4 inserts have identity or similarity to those in the HIV-1 gp120 or HIV-1 Gag. Interestingly, despite the inserts being discontinuous on the primary amino acid sequence, 3D-modelling of the 2019-nCoV suggests that they converge to constitute the receptor binding site. The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity /similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature. This work provides yet unknown insights on 2019-nCoV and sheds light on the evolution and pathogenicity of this virus with important implications for diagnosis of this virus."
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This is a pic what we're talking about.
spikep1
1 HIV pseudovirus glycoprotein 120 for better human to human transmission 4-20 times better than coronavirus. Published report according to She Zhengli the creator of the virus.

2 A Proline-Arginine-Arginine-Alinine Insert,
a US patent owned by US govt. Not found in any other virus, a rabies protein. Can only be an artificial insert. Tropism. Steers virus to humans and causes the bending at the cleavage site to attach to cell better.

3 A prion-like Domain at the receptor binding site, can easily turn into a prion. By adding the HIV and PRRA has bent the molecule creating the prion genesis site.

Spike protein can be made in spleen for antibodies and sent through the vegas nerve direct to brain cause the facial paralysis and brain bleeding & clotting.
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The vax generated spike proteins are same as existing human proteins in the blood that regulate coagulation. The antibody response to the vax generated spike is destroying the human protein as well, causing the blood clots.

could this be a result of the Mitochondria damage?
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Incorrect, sir or madam. The protein in question was not even discovered until aids research began
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80436881



I can back up the statements I make, they are correct, and it's madam. The engineering for this virus was underway in 2015, HIV viral genome was sequenced before then; so the point you are trying to make is not entirely clear. However, thanks for helping me to keep this important thread on the first page, although I am pretty sure that is not your real intent hf


"Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research
Lab-made coronavirus related to SARS can infect human cells.


Declan Butler,12 November 2015"
Less than 50% quoted, emphasis mine.

"An experiment that created a hybrid version of a bat coronavirus — one related to the virus that causes SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) — has triggered renewed debate over whether engineering lab variants of viruses with possible pandemic potential is worth the risks.

In an article published in Nature Medicine1 on 9 November, scientists investigated a virus called SHC014, which is found in horseshoe bats in China. The researchers created a chimaeric virus, made up of a surface protein of SHC014 and the backbone of a SARS virus that had been adapted to grow in mice and to mimic human disease. The chimaera infected human airway cells — proving that the surface protein of SHC014 has the necessary structure to bind to a key receptor on the cells and to infect them. It also caused disease in mice, but did not kill them."

"But other virologists question whether the information gleaned from the experiment justifies the potential risk. Although the extent of any risk is difficult to assess, Simon Wain-Hobson, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, points out that the researchers have created a novel virus that “grows remarkably well” in human cells. “If the virus escaped, nobody could predict the trajectory,” he says."

[link to www.nature.com (secure)]
12 November 2015


I have the full paper of this...even though the full paper has now been removed from the internet:

"Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag
Prashant Pradhan, Ashutosh Kumar Pandey, Akhilesh Mishra, Parul Gupta, Praveen Kumar Tripathi, Manoj Balakrishnan Menon, James Gomes, Perumal Vivekanandan, Bishwajit Kundu
doi: [link to doi.org (secure)]

"We are currently witnessing a major epidemic caused by the 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV). The evolution of 2019-nCoV remains elusive. We found 4 insertions in the spike glycoprotein (S) which are unique to the 2019-nCoV and are not present in other coronaviruses. Importantly, amino acid residues in all the 4 inserts have identity or similarity to those in the HIV-1 gp120 or HIV-1 Gag. Interestingly, despite the inserts being discontinuous on the primary amino acid sequence, 3D-modelling of the 2019-nCoV suggests that they converge to constitute the receptor binding site. The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity /similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature. This work provides yet unknown insights on 2019-nCoV and sheds light on the evolution and pathogenicity of this virus with important implications for diagnosis of this virus."
 Quoting: emerald eye

This is a pic what we're talking about.
spikep1
1 HIV pseudovirus glycoprotein 120 for better human to human transmission 4-20 times better than coronavirus. Published report according to She Zhengli the creator of the virus.

2 A Proline-Arginine-Arginine-Alinine Insert,
a US patent owned by US govt. Not found in any other virus, a rabies protein. Can only be an artificial insert. Tropism. Steers virus to humans and causes the bending at the cleavage site to attach to cell better.

3 A prion-like Domain at the receptor binding site, can easily turn into a prion. By adding the HIV and PRRA has bent the molecule creating the prion genesis site.

Spike protein can be made in spleen for antibodies and sent through the vegas nerve direct to brain cause the facial paralysis and brain bleeding & clotting.
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Yes, Yes, and Yes!
Thank you so much for adding this.

Seeing this picture helps people understand how this protein is formed and folded in non-accidental ways. It was designed as a weapon against humanity.

I am trying to find a weapon to fight back. So far ivermectin is the best I can come up with so far although there are other things that help, like quercetin and Vitamin D. We may not realize it, we are in a war. We cannot sleep through this or we, as the vast numbers of humans will lose.

I know the trolls will descend upon me with ferocity for making that statement, but it is the truth.

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Thats a great question and one that is hard to find the answer for, but after vaccination, the spike protein is found in low levels on day 1 and peaks in 5 days and then dissipates in most by day 14.


"To conduct their study, Walt and colleagues measured levels of SARS-CoV-2 protein subunits in plasma samples collected from 13 participants who received two doses of the Moderna (mRNA-1273) vaccine.

Specifically, the team measured levels of SARS-CoV-2 antigens Spike, S1, and Nucleocapsid. The team examined plasma collected at 10-13 timepoints between 1 and 29 days after the first injection and 1-28 days after the second injection. The average age of participants was 24 and the percentage of female participants was 46.

"The team found that 11-of-13 participants had low levels of SARS-CoV-2 protein (S1 subunit) as early as one day post-vaccination. S1 subunit protein level peaked on average five days after the first injection. In all participants, the level of S1 protein declined and became undetectable by day 14. Spike protein was detected in 3-of-13 participants an average of 15 days after the first injection. After the second vaccine dose, no S1 or Spike was detectable."

I would like to point out that this study specifically measured the S-1 spike protein in plasma, which is in the bloodstream, not the deltoid muscle as it is sometimes being claimed that the effect of the vaccine is only localized to the deltoid muscle. We know that is not true.
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EE,
That shows the levels of the plasma spike protein up to 15 days. I wonder if they will continue the study? The depletion of spike protein doesn't seem to be limited to the virus spike protein or vaccine spike protein. It seems to deplete the human Protein S that regulates the blood coagulation, from all the stroke, heart attacks, blood clots and vascular diseases reported.

We are looking at a long term problem of vascular and neurodegenerative disease if no 'fix'(weapon) for the missing Protein S is found for vaxxed people. Months and months later.

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Just thought I'd add this about the protein we're talking about here.

The wuhan19 virus spike protein IS the vaccine mRNA spike protein which IS our body's own Protein S. It's shape is variable and appears as a 'spike' on the virus where it more rigorously clears cellular waste and debris. The virus 'spike protein' is another name for the protein S that is being produced by the vaccine.

The vaccine mRNA instructions and produced Protein S are immediately read as an enemy to be attacked because they are being delivered from an external source into your body.

The body will then respond by attacking all Protein S and causing a Protein S deficiency resulting in blood clots, vascular problems, neurodegenerative problems, etc. Additionally that's exactly what we're seeing happen with those immediately impacted. The longer term effects are going to be catastrophic, not because of the Protein S in its spike shape, but due to severe deficiency of it in the body.

Protein S helps block the activity of (inactivate) certain proteins that promote the formation of blood clots.

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Thats a great question and one that is hard to find the answer for, but after vaccination, the spike protein is found in low levels on day 1 and peaks in 5 days and then dissipates in most by day 14.


"To conduct their study, Walt and colleagues measured levels of SARS-CoV-2 protein subunits in plasma samples collected from 13 participants who received two doses of the Moderna (mRNA-1273) vaccine.

Specifically, the team measured levels of SARS-CoV-2 antigens Spike, S1, and Nucleocapsid. The team examined plasma collected at 10-13 timepoints between 1 and 29 days after the first injection and 1-28 days after the second injection. The average age of participants was 24 and the percentage of female participants was 46.

"The team found that 11-of-13 participants had low levels of SARS-CoV-2 protein (S1 subunit) as early as one day post-vaccination. S1 subunit protein level peaked on average five days after the first injection. In all participants, the level of S1 protein declined and became undetectable by day 14. Spike protein was detected in 3-of-13 participants an average of 15 days after the first injection. After the second vaccine dose, no S1 or Spike was detectable."

I would like to point out that this study specifically measured the S-1 spike protein in plasma, which is in the bloodstream, not the deltoid muscle as it is sometimes being claimed that the effect of the vaccine is only localized to the deltoid muscle. We know that is not true.
 Quoting: emerald eye


EE,
That shows the levels of the plasma spike protein up to 15 days. I wonder if they will continue the study? The depletion of spike protein doesn't seem to be limited to the virus or vaccine protein. It seems to deplete the human Protein S that regulates the blood coagulation, from all the stroke, heart attacks, blood clots and vascular diseases reported.
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There is so much about all of this that remains unanswered questions in my mind. One of them is if reverse RNA transcriptase can integrate spike protein genome for later production back into the DNA. We are promised that since the vaccine codes only for mRNA production of the spike protein, this cannot be cloned back into DNA for long-term genome change. I am not sure that is true and if it is not, all bets are off.

The Biotechnology Revolution: PCR and the Use of Reverse Transcriptase to Clone Expressed Genes
By: Leslie A. Pray, Ph.D. © 2008 Nature Education
Citation: Pray, L. (2008) The Biotechnology Revolution: PCR and the Use of Reverse Transcriptase to Clone Expressed Genes. Nature Education 1(1):94

The cloning of expressed genes and the polymerase chain reaction (PCR), two biotechnological breakthroughs of the 1970s and 1980s, continue to play significant roles in science today. Both technologies give researchers the means to make more DNA, but they do so in different ways. In particular, cloning involves the synthesis of DNA from mRNA using an enzyme called reverse transcriptase. Although this method reverses the flow of genetic information as described by the central dogma, it effectively mimics the process by which RNA viruses "flip" the direction of transcription in their host cells, thereby causing these cells to manufacture viral DNA even though the viruses themselves contain only RNA."

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"Enzymatic conversion of mRNA into double-stranded insert DNA can be accomplished by a number of different procedures. All of them involve the action of reverse transcriptase and oligonucleotide-primed synthesis of cDNA. After that, the procedures in common use diverge considerably. There are a number of methods for synthesizing the second strand and several procedures for producing suitable ends for making clonable DNA.."

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Just thought I'd add this about the protein we're talking about here.

The wuhan19 virus spike protein IS the vaccine mRNA spike protein which IS our body's own Protein S. It's shape is variable and appears as a 'spike' on the virus where it more rigorously clears cellular waste and debris. The virus 'spike protein' is another name for the protein S that is being produced by the vaccine.

The vaccine mRNA instructions and produced Protein S are immediately read as an enemy to be attacked because they are being delivered from an external source into your body.

The body will then respond by attacking all Protein S and causing a Protein S deficiency resulting in blood clots, vascular problems, neurodegenerative problems, etc. Additionally that's exactly what we're seeing happen with those immediately impacted. The longer term effects are going to be catastrophic, not because of the Protein S in its spike shape, but due to severe deficiency of it in the body.

Protein S helps block the activity of (inactivate) certain proteins that promote the formation of blood clots.
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So are you saying it's the lack of S protein, not the newly-manufactured spike protein, that's causing all the clotting and deaths?
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"The team found that 11-of-13 participants had low levels of SARS-CoV-2 protein (S1 subunit) as early as one day post-vaccination. S1 subunit protein level peaked on average five days after the first injection. In all participants, the level of S1 protein declined and became undetectable by day 14. Spike protein was detected in 3-of-13 participants an average of 15 days after the first injection. After the second vaccine dose, no S1 or Spike was detectable."

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Thank you that's very interesting. So after 14 days they don't have spike proteins any more, so they will be harmless to unvaxxed people around them, is that a safe assumption?
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Where can we get Ivermectin if no Drs will prescribe it?
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America’s frontline doctors are prescribing it. Go to their website.
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I used text2md . I think it was $95 for the “visit”, which was a questionnaire and I got 24 pills and my insurance paid for it. They responded to my text very quickly and called my prescription to cvs. I had it within a few hours.
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"The team found that 11-of-13 participants had low levels of SARS-CoV-2 protein (S1 subunit) as early as one day post-vaccination. S1 subunit protein level peaked on average five days after the first injection. In all participants, the level of S1 protein declined and became undetectable by day 14. Spike protein was detected in 3-of-13 participants an average of 15 days after the first injection. After the second vaccine dose, no S1 or Spike was detectable."

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Thank you that's very interesting. So after 14 days they don't have spike proteins any more, so they will be harmless to unvaxxed people around them, is that a safe assumption?
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Maybe, that is only one study, and only on the Moderna. See the above post on reverse mRNA transcriptase, if that mechanism is true, and it is true for other forms of viral mRNAs then all bets are off.

"The so-called central dogma of molecular biology states that all genetic information flows in one direction: from DNA to RNA through the process of transcription, and then from RNA to protein through the process of translation (Crick, 1958). For over a decade, the central dogma was thought to be a universal truth--in other words, researchers believed that genetic information always flowed in this order, otherwise it could not be passed along. In 1970, however, the two experiments mentioned in the Nature quote--one conducted by David Baltimore, then of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, and the other by Howard Temin and Satoshi Mizutani, then of the University of Wisconsin in Madison--called this belief into question. Specifically, these researchers independently published scientific papers demonstrating that RNA tumor viruses contain enzymes that use viral RNA as a template for the synthesis of DNA, thereby reversing the direction of transcription (Baltimore, 1970; Temin & Mizutani, 1970). Not only did these two experiments challenge the validity of the central dogma, but they also laid the foundation for a series of technological developments that eventually earned reverse transcription and the synthesis of complementary DNA, or cDNA, central places in the molecular biologist's toolbox.

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So I really don't know the full answer to that question.
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Just thought I'd add this about the protein we're talking about here.

The wuhan19 virus spike protein IS the vaccine mRNA spike protein which IS our body's own Protein S. It's shape is variable and appears as a 'spike' on the virus where it more rigorously clears cellular waste and debris. The virus 'spike protein' is another name for the protein S that is being produced by the vaccine.

The vaccine mRNA instructions and produced Protein S are immediately read as an enemy to be attacked because they are being delivered from an external source into your body.

The body will then respond by attacking all Protein S and causing a Protein S deficiency resulting in blood clots, vascular problems, neurodegenerative problems, etc. Additionally that's exactly what we're seeing happen with those immediately impacted. The longer term effects are going to be catastrophic, not because of the Protein S in its spike shape, but due to severe deficiency of it in the body.

Protein S helps block the activity of (inactivate) certain proteins that promote the formation of blood clots.
 Quoting: uscrusader1


So are you saying it's the lack of S protein, not the newly-manufactured spike protein, that's causing all the clotting and deaths?
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Yes.
Search PROS1 gene.

Search PF4

See the connection of PF4 with the function of the PROS1 gene. You will not see it as it is written, because it is not specific to that gene, but in the way it functions.

The C4b-binding protein is a regulatory protein of the Complement Cascade that possesses decay-accelerating activity.

The Role of DAF(decay accelerating factor) in autoimmune and inflammatory disease. The data says that it supports a critical role for DAF in protection of self tissues.

PF4 significantly inhibits APC(Activated Protein C) for anti-coagulant activity, meaning that PF4 impairs Protein S cofactor enhancement of APC anticoagulant function, at sites of vascular injury with concurrent platelet activation.

*Synopsis, you need 'your' natural Protein S for proper blood coagulation control.
The wuhan19 vax's eventually wipe it out.

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