I talked to friend, hadn't talked in eight years. He is a liberal, I used to be but grew a brain five years ago. Here is the convo.

Dude and I were roommates for three years and played in two rock bands together. Lost touch, he emailed me after getting my new email from a mutual friend. I changed my email years ago because I got out of the liberal mindset and realized how insane and stupid I had been.



Me: Hey man, good to hear from you! Been a awhile.

Ben: Yeah man. I was talking to Kristin yesterday and she said you were telling her not to get vaccinated? What is that about? She is really freaked out.

Me: Uh, dude. You don't really believe the hype with all of this do you?

Ben: What do you mean hype? People are dying and have been for over a year man. Kristin is saying she is waiting on the vaccine now to see what happens? What are you talking about?

Me: Listen. The tests don't test for a virus. The creator himself said Fauci is a bullshit artist and that the PCR test can't be used to detect a virus. And look up the death numbers over the last five years. There has been no increase in deaths. They reclassified all respiratory illness and flu and colds as "Covid19". The whole thing is overblown bullshit.

And how do you explain the billion dollar campaign to get everyone vaccinated using fricking donuts and hot dogs and frickin lotteries all of a sudden? The pandemic was obviously overblown bullshit, about an hour of actual mainstream research is all it takes. Kristin is being smart.

Ben: Holy hell. I knew you were a Republican or whatever now but you have gone off the damn deep end. You really can't believe this is fake????

Me: I will be glad to send you some links to actual facts.

Ben: Let me guess, A Jones shit? Don't bother dude. I'm sorry we lost touch, but man, you need to get help.

Me: I am insane because I believe in not depending on the government to think for me? I have changed, I broke out from the brainwashing.

Ben: So now I am brainwashed? Get help man. Please.

There was a bit more, but this really is the main part. As you see, he refuted looking at any facts, called me insane and told me I need help. I was basically best friends with this guy for a decade and he was always a huge liberal. I supported Obama in his first election like a moron. I woke up to the mental illness and lost almost all my friends.

It isn't that he called me nuts, whatever. The terrifying thing is that there was no discussion, he didn't care about facts or evidence. He simply would not discuss. They have brainwashed much of the public into actually believing that open discussion and free thinking are bad, scary even. And, facts don't matter. It felt like I was talking to a human whi has joined with the aliens in They Live.

As someone who has had many ... let’s say, similar - ish... versions of this conversation, let me offer you a different and likely more effective approach.


1- Initiate nothing. Let them lead. If they insist upon making the conversation political then let them play their hand first.

2- ASK QUESTIONS.

3- Know your shit.

“I’m getting the vaccine, aren’t you?”

“Why are you getting the vaccine?”

“Because I don’t want to die! “

“Hmmm. Funny you should say that, because taking the (air quotes) “vaccine” will make you MORE LIKELY TO DIE, as shown in the official CDC statistics.”

“No it won’t, it is 95% effective”

Then show them my thread below and educate them

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As opposed to trusting some random people on the net?

Oh, a "thread", with OTHER opinions! I'm sure that thread will win a Nobel in science!

I don’t think most people have come to accept what is really going on.

The mask has become their safety blanket.

Sooner or later that safety blanket gets taken away.

Actually it is statistics, not opinions

Feel free to debate any of the calculations in that thread if you would like, I will check it from time to time.

No thanks. It would be a waste of time.

Are you sure you understand all statistics and variables?!

That's the mistake I see right wing nuts make most often. They get fixated on one area, but forget all others.

Again, not gonna argue because I've seen the results of such futile actions.

Cool. Consider it an open invite if you ever get past the whole :

“I won’t debate you with facts because I can’t” - mentality.

You mean my "I only accept facts from sources who are in a position to make statements of fact, based on a professional understanding of a subject instead of paranoid woo, misunderstanding and outright lies" -mentality.

I'm not saying that what you present isn't factual, I'm saying it's being misinterpreted by idiots.

It's a common problem with the "it fell at freefall speed within its own footprint" crowd.