Paul Taught the 10 Commandments - Gospel - Bible Study

NONSENSE.
You have to DIG in the letters
to see this.

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Hey OP!!

NONSENSE. Argument doesn't hold water.
I won't allow further discussion
about it in this topic.

Correct. Did you receive this message. It seems GLP has blocked me when it comes to over a one word sentence to any thread.

Paul mentioning the Commandments

1 Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

1 Corinthians 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

Colossians 2:22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?

Colossians 4:10 Aristarchus my fellowprisoner saluteth you, and Marcus, sister's son to Barnabas, (touching whom ye received commandments: if he come unto you, receive him;)

1 Thessalonians 4:2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.

Titus 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewwish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

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“Nay, we establish the law”

However he also wrote that the law is a ministration of death. The law indeed is good but we are now dead to the law, a la Romans and Galatians. We are not under the law but grace and Romans 5:13 is the smoking gun- SIN IS NOT IMPUTED WHEN THERE IS NO LAW.

We Follow God Almighty and Christ as we follow in the footsteps...

You better get your nose out of Paul
and read the rest of scripture.

Thread: The 10 Commandments Are Still Valid - They Define Major Sins AND Show How to Love God - Bible Study

The 10 Commandments DEFINE what major sins are.

Anyone who is under the Law, is cursed:

Galations 3:
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.


Anyone in Christ is redeemed from the curse of the Law:
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:


Paul taught Grace, not Law, to the gentiles.

I suggest that you go back to my OP
and start reading ALL the verses where
Paul is referencing the Commandments.

Check this topic too.


Thread: The 10 Commandments Are Still Valid - They Define Major Sins AND Show How to Love God - Bible Study

Thread: Paul Taught Repentance - Gospel - KJV Bible Study

The phrase "the law" occurs 183 times in 149 verses in the New Testament in the KJV.

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1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

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Ecclesiastes 12

9 And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs.

10 The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth.

11 The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd.

12 And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

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'You have to learn the Fear of God before you can appreciate the Grace of God.' (quote from the video)

KJV Psalm 111:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.

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DARBY Psalm 111:10 The fear of Jehovah is the beginning of wisdom; a good understanding have all they that do [his precepts]: his praise abideth for ever.

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Mark 7

20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.

21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,

22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:

23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

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Stop polluting this site with Christianity
Religitards

..and then he wrote how Christ Jesus nailed the 10 commandments to his cross:

Colossians 2:14

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Paul was a Roman citizen, that actively and vigorously persecuted Christians.

Then he did a 180 when Jesus revealed Himself to him on the road. This was after Paul actively sought permission and special conscription to round up Christians on his travel between provinces if he came across them.

After Paul took on Christianity, He was arrested at the insistence and hand of the same group that persecuted and crucified Jesus. However, because Paul was a Roman citizen, he had protections that other Christians did not. The Roman authority, in Jerusalem at that time found no fault with Paul. In fact, Paul would have been released in Jerusalem, had he not appealed to have his case heard by Caesar in Rome. As a result, he was eventually slated for transport to Rome aboard a prison ship headed there, to go before Caesar. On it's voyage, that ship broke up at sea. His and the lives of every man on board were spared through his assurance that not one man would perish because God would intervene. The practice at the time was to kill all of the prisoners if a ship was lost at sea. This didn't happen, because as Paul said, God intervened and every man aboard made it safely to shore, where they met up with another ship that took Paul the rest of the way to Rome.

At Rome, Paul came to live as a Roman under house arrest. He became the head of the Christian ministry, living under house arrest in Rome. He couldn't leave, but he could accept visitors and otherwise influence others. Paul had all of the amenities and privileges afforded Roman citizens in his home. House arrest just meant he had to stay put. This is where he instructed and oversaw the other Apostles of Christ, writing letters, meeting with them and sending them out throughout the province to teach Jesus' message. Paul was able to oversee and coordinate the Apostles like no one else, due to his special distinction of being a Roman and a Christian. Peter did much of the leg work and travel along with the other Apostles, but Paul coordinated and established the network on his end, using his position and location to see it through.

The 7 churches in Revelation were located within 7 distinct cities under Roman occupation at that time, of which Paul and the other Apostles were ministering to. The names of the 7 Revelation churches coincide with the ancient names of these 7 cities where the ministry was taking place. The Christians in these cities were exposed to the corruption of pagan ideals and practices that were rife in Roman culture at that time. See the map here; Seven churches of Asia [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Paul, preached Jesus and adhered to what Jesus instructed. Scripture clearly shows this to be the truth of his involvement and dedication. Paul didn't bring another message as some say. It is sheer ignorance and denial proof otherwise, to claim that he did.

Remember, Jesus told Peter that he (Peter) would deny Jesus three times, before the cock crowed.

Which Peter did.

After Jesus was Resurrected, Jesus had dinner with some of the Apostles on the shore of the sea. At that dinner, Jesus asks Peter if he loves Him (Jesus). Jesus does this THREE times.

It directly correlates to Peter's first denial incident and many miss the significance that Jesus was again insinuating that Peter would again fail to do what Jesus instructed.

The third time, Peter is grieved by the question. In other words, it troubled him that Jesus asked him this, yet a third time. Peter most assuredly thought back to his denial of Jesus as happened before and I believe this was the intent of Jesus pressing him on the matter.

So, it becomes clear, that the reason Peter was grieved, is that Jesus was again insinuating that Peter would yet deny Him (Jesus) again.

Then, immediately, following Jesus asking Peter the questions, three times, if he loved Him, Jesus told Peter that another would carry him where he did not want to go. In other words, Peter would again NOT do as Jesus instructed, out of the same fear as happened before of being persecuted for it.

That other person who Jesus said was to carry Peter, clearly, is/was Paul.

This is why Paul rebuked Peter, because Peter was again not fully doing what Jesus asked him to do. Paul had to reprimand Peter for it and set him back on the correct path that Jesus instructed Peter to follow.

This fulfilled what Jesus predicted at that meeting by the sea, just as the cock crowing did the first time Peter denied Jesus prior.

Matthew 5:18
King James Version

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

God's Ten Commandments were not abolished.

It was the ritual practices that were abolished. Sacrifice of animals and all prior Holy days that were observed under the Old Covenant where those ritual things took place. Same with the days dealing with atonement for sin. Same with the cutting of foreskin. Same with Trumpets, which were days set aside, meant to Herald (announce) Jesus and what He was about to do.

Nearly any day associated with the earthly temple, and the ceremonial practices that occurred there were nailed to the cross and abolished. Not God's Commandments or God's Ordinance of clean v.s. unclean meat.

Jesus became the cornerstone of a Spiritual Temple. One built without hands, where ALL men are being called to become building blocks for it's perfect Spiritual construction.

Jesus fulfilled all of the earthly temple requirements at his Crucifixion and Resurrection.

The dispute of eating otherwise clean food/ meat that were sacrificed to idols was otherwise also dispelled. It's just that some orthodox individuals had trouble with it, so to keep the peace and not cause them to stumble over it, It was recommended not to eat those in the presence of such people, but eating them otherwise wasn't wrong. This didn't give permission to forsake God's clean and unclean meat ordinance though. That was instituted by God, Himself and never changes.

In the place of Passover, Jesus instead instituted The Lord's Supper.

God's 7th day Sabbath also remains in effect as it was Created by God from the beginning and is Commanded to be observed for all time.

Scripture in several places, calls all of the earthly ceremonial things of the Old Covenant, shadows, signifying them as things that Christ came to abolish. Under the New Covenant, there is no place for them.

Ironic that Jesus had issues with all Seven churches that Paul had started.

1 Peter is Written to Paul's Churches - Paul Must Be Dead


Point #1 Peter wrote his first epistle to many of the Believers in areas Paul had been to. He had no real reason to write to them when Paul was alive.

KJV 1 Peter 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,


Pontus (southern coast of the BLack Sea)

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Galatia (Galatians - Paul)
Cappadocia (Turkey - Paul)

Asia (mentioned several times in Acts)

Bithynia - (Anatolia)

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Point #2 Peter would not have admitted that Paul's epistles were scripture as Paul was arrogant at times, as a few passages of his letters show this.

KJV 2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;

16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

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Point #3 Silvanus

Paul mentions Silvanus 3 times, then Peter mentions having had written to and exhorted. Peter would not have done this if Paul was still alive.


KJV 2 Corinthians 1:19 For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in him was yea.

1 Thessalonians 1:1 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Thessalonians 1:1 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:

1 Peter 5:12 By Silvanus, a faithful brother unto you, as I suppose, I have written briefly, exhorting, and testifying that this is the true grace of God wherein ye stand.

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So you throw out most all of the New Testament because it was written by the Apostle Paul?

Exactly. They apparently are not aware that the epistles of Paul were meant to reproof and exhort the congregations he wrote those books of the bible too, while also extolling portions of the same for actually following the faith.

It's what Revelation 1 and 2 does also. There isn't a conflict between Paul and Jesus.

Those seven churches were located in Roman cities that they are named after. Those cities were rife with pagan worship and many of the members were entangled by it, which was causing dissension among the congregants.

Paul addressed these matters in his letters to them, which are in fact the content of the books of the bible based on Paul's letter to them, for that specific purpose.

Spot On.

Just because a cultist cannot understand Paul's Scriptures does not mean throw away the New Testament.


The reason that the cultist cannot understand Scripture is that they do not have the Holy Spirit to guide them into all truth.
They are blind.

Most people who take issue with such things are not studying the scriptures themselves. They are just parroting what other people say with out doing the research themselves. Or, perhaps they are researching, but they are starting with a flawed premise to begin with so of course they will fail to recognize their error in evaluation.

If they actually studied what is said and have an understanding of the context and what was transpiring during that time historically they would come to see the error and false logic in those claims.

Blind is correct. Scripture is acutely accurate in that regard too.

Every one who is doing the sin, the lawlessness also he doth do, and the sin is the lawlessness,

That is the literal translation of 1 John 3:4

Instead you use the erroneous translation which skews all understanding.

The LAW is necessary for one's spiritual growth. It's the ultimate beginning to one's path with Christ and spiritual growth. These commandments are written into our hearts and minds when we believe upon Jesus, who wrote the 10 commandments, who is the LOrd of the Sabbath. Jesus is Torah in the flesh! Without following these basic,simple principles , one will never be in the Kingdom of Heaven.

The law is not sin.
The law is the power/strength of sin.

the gospel, because it is the power/strength of God for salvation to everyone who believes, first to the J- then to the Greek. 17For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish,d just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”e

He lived by faith, not law.
The law is not from faith.