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Astromut
(OP)Senior Forum Moderator  06/16/2021 09:58 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thomas Pesquet and Shane Kimbrough are getting ready to conduct a spacewalk to install the first of the new iROSA solar arrays to supplement power to the space station. Two of these roll out solar arrays were launched on the current SpaceX cargo dragon docked to the space station and they will slot in front of the existing arrays but generate more power than the part of the arrays that they block. This will also visibly change the appearance of the space station in telescopes. Although the shuttle stopped flying in 2011, 10 years later additional construction of the space station is still continuing as new parts are built and launched. I hear space deniers say all the time that there is no footage of the international Space station under construction. Well that's completely false, there's a ton of footage from the many missions that initially assembled it, but even today here we have live footage of new parts being installed on the space station. Parts that will be visible even from the ground. If you want to look back at the original construction efforts that put the station together mission by mission, here you go: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Wait, people actually think is stuff is real? They give you CGI images of "space" and you think it's totally legit? They can't even give you a non-CGI photo of the Earth, yet you believe this garbage? The small ball of light that you can see traverse the night sky (that they tell you is the ISS) was first recorded back in the 16th century (by Tycho Brahe I think it was). Were they "building" the ISS more than 400 years ago? Normies man, they're everywhere. Not to mention the hilarious "space walks" as they're supposedly doing 17,500 mph. Yeah, sure. Some people have no discernment. You are full of shit. I watched the space station under construction, it didn't exist before that. Yes they are doing space walks at 17, 500 mph. There's nothing impossible about that. Space station is moving at the same speed as the space walker. It's not CGI, I've captured it myself I've even measured its distance size and velocity. It most definitely is fake, normie. So because you claim you saw something under construction, that means it's really up there 250-300 miles above the Earth, travelling at 17,500 mph? Thanks for proving you didn't even watch the video in my post. You claimed the "light in the sky" that is ISS has been there for centuries. I know from first hand experience that isn't true. I've watched ISS throughout its construction through my own telescope, it didn't exist before. Separately, I provided proof of its altitude, size and speed. You completely ignored it. You will not do that again. You wanna discern something? You will watch the above video and you will tell me with your next post what the angular size was of the parallax I measured. What was it? Answer me.  |
| Juicey
User ID: 79322226  Ireland06/16/2021 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You realize he's a fake actor, he's actually British and he's putting on the stupid Southern American accent to try to promote the stereotype of stupid Southern science denying idiots. He's a fucking plant, literal cognitive infiltration. I dont think he's putting forward any scientific theories. Just pointing out the fakery in the various "footage" he includes in his music video, eg bubbles in "space", harnesses and various fake astronaut fails. If you want to do some real science how about demonstrating curvature on standing bodies of water, or opposing gas pressure systems adjacent to one another without solid separation? Both preposterous and absurd propositions of course. Natural science, having to do with the tangible substances of the world (water, air) will always trump theoretical science having to do with intangibles (the luminaries) and imagery on the tv. Aforementioned theoretical globe/space "science" and the associated imagery provided, directly contradicts actual reality and therefor belongs in an appropriate receptacle (ie a dumpster) You're right of course, but you're wasting your time and energy with NASA fanboys. NASA can't even give them a non-cgi photograph of the Earth yet they believe this hot garbage? It honestly sad. Not trying to convert any nasa fanboys but the bs should always be called out. WHats the bets he posts an picture of the bridge over lake pontchartrain to prove bodies of water bend. lol. I wonder does he also believe that train tracks physically converge in the distance. Because along with assumptions and explanations about intangible luminaries, the other major prong of globe delusion is the conflation of optical and physical geometry. They will ignore, or indeed invoke, as required (but mostly ignore) perspective (ie the functionality and limitations of the viewing apparatus) and environmental conditions (moisture, temperature). WHile of course all along completely ignoring the natural sciences down here in the real world |
| PRESIDENT ELECT HARD LUCK
User ID: 1891341  United States06/16/2021 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's unreal hows many people are still in the dark ages. Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn We went to the moon too. With black tar paper and curtain rods and ballet stage wires to simulate the oh so sporadic 1/6th gravity....please....ISS? IDK.....Apollo with .0012" thick foil and 3 grown men in the equivalent of theatre seats, shitting and pissing sitting on each others laps?.....I DO KNOW....PS THE NEASARA CHECKS ARE IN THE POST OFFICE WAITING FOR YOU TO GET YOUR VAXX.....FLAT EARTH HAS NOTHING TO SO WITH IT...I WAS THERE 6/19/1969.....MOST PEOPLE DID NOT BELIEVE IT....APOLLO 13 DID NOT FILM ON THE MON..REGARDLESS OF WHAT ELSE....FLAT EARTH CONCERNS NOT WITHSTANDING...GROWN MEN WITH NEIL ARMSTRONG POSTER ON THE DEN WALL.??. |
| Katipo
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| Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 06/16/2021 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHats the bets he posts an picture of the bridge over lake pontchartrain to prove bodies of water bend. lol. Quoting: Juicey Hahaha! You think that DOESN'T prove that water conforms to the curve of the earth? I wonder does he also believe that train tracks physically converge in the distance. Quoting: JuiceyI wonder if you think crepuscular rays shining through clouds prove the sun is close to the surface? Because along with assumptions and explanations about intangible luminaries, Why have amateurs been able to bounce radio waves off the moon and planets if they're not physical and tangible? |
| Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 06/16/2021 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On that we agree. I suggest you brush up on your history. For someone who says they were there, you seem to have forgotten a pretty major event... Last Edited by Astromut on 06/16/2021 10:11 AM |
| Scribbler
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| Astromut
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| Juicey
User ID: 79322226 Ireland06/16/2021 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHats the bets he posts an picture of the bridge over lake pontchartrain to prove bodies of water bend. lol. Quoting: Juicey Hahaha! You think that DOESN'T prove that water conforms to the curve of the earth? You should refer that question to chief internet globe high priest Neil De Grass Tyson. I'm sure you've heard of him. Perhaps you are even a fan?? Neil says you cant even see the curvature from red bull jump height of only 25 miles approx. Laughs at the idea actually. And yet you think a picture from ground level shows curvature????? I do not think Mr De Grasse Tyson would approve of your statement. The fact is, water is the most accurate levelling tool in existence. This understanding has been fundamental to the progress of civilisation, in terms of construction, engineering and navigation. As in, the real stuff, here in the real world. |
| Juicey
User ID: 79322226 Ireland06/16/2021 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, as I've previously mentioned, there are 2 distinct geometries at play. Physical and Optical. We cant always trust optical to tell us the physical, particularly over long distance. Train tracks is a perfect example. Another is the notion of ships going over curve of a ball. Because of this, we cannot rely on optics to tell the full story. Direct measurement and demonstration of the substances about which you are making claim, is the required standard of scientific proof. |
| Wookiee
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| Juicey
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| Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 06/16/2021 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, imagery is not an acceptable standard of proof. Quoting: Juicey No matter how honest the person providing the imagery is or claims to be, the simple fact is that images are susceptible to fakery. You don't get to disregard evidence just because you think it's possible to fake it. The burden of proof is on you to prove it's fake. Prove my videos are fake or else my evidence stands. |
| Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 06/16/2021 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, as I've previously mentioned, there are 2 distinct geometries at play. Physical and Optical. Quoting: Juicey We cant always trust optical to tell us the physical, particularly over long distance. Train tracks is a perfect example. You're an idiot. You can perform optical triangulation on train tracks if you want. |
| Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 06/16/2021 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHats the bets he posts an picture of the bridge over lake pontchartrain to prove bodies of water bend. lol. Quoting: Juicey Hahaha! You think that DOESN'T prove that water conforms to the curve of the earth? You should refer that question to chief internet globe high priest Neil De Grass Tyson. I'm sure you've heard of him. Perhaps you are even a fan?? Neil says I don't care what Neil says. You're not talking up Neil, you're talking to me. Take your strawman and shove it. |
| Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 06/16/2021 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another is the notion of ships going over curve of a ball. Quoting: Juicey Because of this, we cannot rely on optics to tell the full story. It's not a notion, it's a demonstrable fact. Claiming you can't trust it because it disagrees with your preconceived notions is the very essence of confirmation bias, discarding evidence that proves you wrong. |
| Juicey
User ID: 79322226 Ireland06/16/2021 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, imagery is not an acceptable standard of proof. Quoting: Juicey No matter how honest the person providing the imagery is or claims to be, the simple fact is that images are susceptible to fakery. You don't get to disregard evidence just because you think it's possible to fake it. The burden of proof is on you to prove it's fake. Prove my videos are fake or else my evidence stands. Utter delusion |
| Juicey
User ID: 79322226 Ireland06/16/2021 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHats the bets he posts an picture of the bridge over lake pontchartrain to prove bodies of water bend. lol. Quoting: Juicey Hahaha! You think that DOESN'T prove that water conforms to the curve of the earth? You should refer that question to chief internet globe high priest Neil De Grass Tyson. I'm sure you've heard of him. Perhaps you are even a fan?? Neil says I don't care what Neil says. You're not talking up Neil, you're talking to me. Take your strawman and shove it. Looking at this and your previous post, you are full of anger and offensive insults. Which is ironic as you have banned me (and probably others) for offending you by questioning the veracity of your videos. Not only are you utterly delusional, you are also an absolute hypocrite |
| hikaru
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| Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 06/16/2021 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, imagery is not an acceptable standard of proof. Quoting: Juicey No matter how honest the person providing the imagery is or claims to be, the simple fact is that images are susceptible to fakery. You don't get to disregard evidence just because you think it's possible to fake it. The burden of proof is on you to prove it's fake. Prove my videos are fake or else my evidence stands. Utter delusion So you are unable to provide any evidence refuting my observational data. Got it. My evidence stands.  |
| Juicey
User ID: 79322226 Ireland06/16/2021 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another is the notion of ships going over curve of a ball. Quoting: Juicey Because of this, we cannot rely on optics to tell the full story. It's not a notion, it's a demonstrable fact. Claiming you can't trust it because it disagrees with your preconceived notions is the very essence of confirmation bias, discarding evidence that proves you wrong. Ah right, so you do believe train tracks physically converge in the distance then? |
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| Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 06/16/2021 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Astromut Hahaha! You think that DOESN'T prove that water conforms to the curve of the earth? You should refer that question to chief internet globe high priest Neil De Grass Tyson. I'm sure you've heard of him. Perhaps you are even a fan?? Neil says I don't care what Neil says. You're not talking up Neil, you're talking to me. Take your strawman and shove it. Looking at this and your previous post, you are full of anger and offensive insults. Which is ironic as you have banned me (and probably others) for offending you by questioning the veracity of your videos. Says the person who is questioning the veracity of my videos and refuses to back it up when cornered. That is beyond insulting, it's actually accusatory in nature. I don't tolerate that kind of bullshit. And now you admit you're using a sock account to circumvent a personal ban from my threads? Thanks for the admission and goodbye. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80377409 United States06/16/2021 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80377409 United States06/16/2021 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NASA has finally improved their CGI ... with all the billions of tax dollars at their disposal. Or maybe prior CGI was bad on purpose because of the Musk principle: you know it must be real because it looks so fake. Quoting: Malleus It's not CGI. After the first LZ-1 landing was conducted at night, a conspiracy theorist thought they would be clever by asking why they always land them at night. Musk replied that it was easier to fake it with CGI that way. He loves trolling conspiracy idiots. But yeah if they wanted to fake it, the result would probably look more like what people expect it to look like, instead of the unexpected surreal nature of the video from the Falcon heavy demo launch. In space, there's no haze between the dummy payload and the Earth beyond it, none of the distance cues we subconsciously look for because we experience them all the time here on Earth. Your avatar is real, too! |
| Usfighter
User ID: 75923065 United States06/16/2021 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Awesome! And here is Gandalf riding to Minas Tirith....and this was almost 20 years ago... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 06/16/2021 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another is the notion of ships going over curve of a ball. Quoting: Juicey Because of this, we cannot rely on optics to tell the full story. It's not a notion, it's a demonstrable fact. Claiming you can't trust it because it disagrees with your preconceived notions is the very essence of confirmation bias, discarding evidence that proves you wrong. Ah right, so you do believe train tracks physically converge in the distance then? Unlike you, I actually understand how perspective works. At 2 meters height over the ground, my telescope could easily resolve the separation in a 3 meter wide pair of tracks out to 5 km and well beyond, so in other words, over the curve assuming flat terrain. Likewise, I can see ships sailing over the horizon. I have no trouble observing things that are going over the curve of the horizon. Where's the drone ship the rocket is landing on? In terms of angular size, even the narrow rocket itself is being resolved, the ship should be easy pickings. Instead only the dust and smoke is visible coming up over the horizon at landing... |
| Jay.Crew
User ID: 26728121 United States06/16/2021 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is that white bag looking thing right outside the back window? Is that the new section they will be attaching? I just heard them say they are depressurizing the module they are in, so I would guess they will be suiting up and going for a walk soon. Will be cool to watch, thanks for posting. I'll watch the old videos while waiting on them to suit up Quoting: 772STi They're in the airlock and it just finished depressurizing. They're getting ready to hoping the hatch. There's an additional thermal cover which looks like a floppy piece of fabric covering the hatch and that's the last thing they'll emerge from as they come out. In fact I could just see the thermal cover moving away from the hatch a little bit when they opened it, the last of the air in the airlock pushed on it. Request please. If anyone would know where to find this maybe it would be you. Camera in space, pan from earth - > sun -> moon If I had a video camera in space that is the first thing I would do, yet I have never seen footage of it. Not saying earth is flat. But this would put a damper on that, which would be good. Or maybe you have footage of a spacewalk that catches all these things in the background, preferably without having to watch for 4 hours. Check out this thread for important statistics which have showed (since early summer 2021) that Covid “Vaccine” is more likely to KILL YOU than save you: Thread: COVID JAB statistically more likely to KILL YOU per official CDC DATA. You’re 3.87x more likely to die from the Pfizer vax than save your life!! |
| Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 06/16/2021 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is that white bag looking thing right outside the back window? Is that the new section they will be attaching? I just heard them say they are depressurizing the module they are in, so I would guess they will be suiting up and going for a walk soon. Will be cool to watch, thanks for posting. I'll watch the old videos while waiting on them to suit up Quoting: 772STi They're in the airlock and it just finished depressurizing. They're getting ready to hoping the hatch. There's an additional thermal cover which looks like a floppy piece of fabric covering the hatch and that's the last thing they'll emerge from as they come out. In fact I could just see the thermal cover moving away from the hatch a little bit when they opened it, the last of the air in the airlock pushed on it. Request please. If anyone would know where to find this maybe it would be you. Camera in space, pan from earth - > sun -> moon The moon is only a few pixels across in most cameras they use on EVA. I'm sure if I looked long enough I'd find an example, but it's not what you're thinking it would look like, it's nothing like a sci-fi movie. Not saying earth is flat. But this would put a damper on that, which would be good. Quoting: JaySorry, but I disagree. The moon and sun can be seen in a lot of the HDEV footage and it's done nothing to put a damper on anything. Last Edited by Astromut on 06/16/2021 12:31 PM |
| Jay.Crew
User ID: 77960846 United States06/16/2021 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is that white bag looking thing right outside the back window? Is that the new section they will be attaching? I just heard them say they are depressurizing the module they are in, so I would guess they will be suiting up and going for a walk soon. Will be cool to watch, thanks for posting. I'll watch the old videos while waiting on them to suit up Quoting: 772STi They're in the airlock and it just finished depressurizing. They're getting ready to hoping the hatch. There's an additional thermal cover which looks like a floppy piece of fabric covering the hatch and that's the last thing they'll emerge from as they come out. In fact I could just see the thermal cover moving away from the hatch a little bit when they opened it, the last of the air in the airlock pushed on it. Request please. If anyone would know where to find this maybe it would be you. Camera in space, pan from earth - > sun -> moon The moon is only a few pixels across in most cameras they use on EVA. I'm sure if I looked long enough I'd find an example, but it's not what you're thinking it would look like, it's nothing like a sci-fi movie. Not saying earth is flat. But this would put a damper on that, which would be good. Quoting: JaySorry, but I disagree. The moon and sun can be seen in a lot of the HDEV footage and it's done nothing to put a damper on anything. What does HDEV stand for? (And what location is the footage taken from, if that isn’t clear from the acronym) Is the earth or the sun visible in any of the footage take from the moon on any of the moon missions? Or is there any video footage you are aware of that shows (Preferably both) earth And the sun from deep space (not low earth orbit) I watched your video on calculating the distance of the ISS, cool stuff. Check out this thread for important statistics which have showed (since early summer 2021) that Covid “Vaccine” is more likely to KILL YOU than save you: Thread: COVID JAB statistically more likely to KILL YOU per official CDC DATA. You’re 3.87x more likely to die from the Pfizer vax than save your life!! |
