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Socialism works great until you run out of other people's money.
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There is no such thing as something for nothing. Anyone who believes a government handout is to help them is delusional.
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So at people making $47,000 a year going to have to provide that extra $6,000 for those people? Or where is that money coming from?
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Well it is supposedly "privately funded"...for now! But like any good gibs me dat it will unfortunately fall on the taxpayers dime!

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There is no such thing as something for nothing. Anyone who believes a government handout is to help them is delusional.
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Socialism works great until you run out of other people's money.
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Absolutely THIS^^^^^^
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School paraprofessionals are way underpaid for what they do. In this case, she deserves the extra.
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Teachers are paid quite well considering they only work for half a year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80424416


No they aren't. They also only get off for a few months during which they don't get paid. Who told you they get paid when they aren't working?
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You said that, not me. They get paid well for the 180 days school is in session. Many make $60K so if they worked a full year they'd be making $120K. Doesn't sound too bad to me.
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What teachers make 60K? Maybe in California or New York.

They barely make minimum wage in most southern states.
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that amount of money is not enough for someone unemployed. I see she is employed.

will she be smart and save it all?

doubt it - she will not be farther ahead in a year, yet she is okay now.


People like this woman are supposed to seem like nice regular normal people to us, who deserve a boost.


the bigger picture is ignored.
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She will put it all on crypto and blow...
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Sure a lotnof young dummiesnin this threadnwho have no clue about economics and what the outcome of this experiment has been everywhere it has been tried. It always ends in abject failure. Nothing in life is free when will you little idiots get that thru you heads?
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These are averages too. You don't start out making this kind of money in teaching.

Most make around 35K
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OP crying when the peasants get a tiny minuscule bailout for situations resulting from no fault their own. OP probably doesnt even wince when corrupt bankers and corporations get BILLIONS in bailout, even when these bankers and corporations caused the epic economic collapses in the first place. Reward the corrupt, and snub the very people who do good and actually pay the damn taxes that the money comes from.

The ignorance level of the OP is epic.
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Well do something about it hero! Start up your own occupy movement, that ought to make things right!...


DOrolleyes
 Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket


I am not the one CRYING about it. YOU are the one crying! LOL.

You are the one crying here about the "Poors" (poor folks) having a tiny sliver of the wealth which typically is passed around like pennies to the super wealthy. The super wealthy who have obtained every damn bit of wealth, yet you are a "crusader" here to stop the Poors from having a tiny sliver of it when the Poors are the ones who actually WORK and pay the god damn TAXES. Have you seen the latest findings where the most wealthy paid ZERO to 0.98% of the income in taxes? We Poors making $40,000 a year (not BILLIONS) pay 28%.

Ah, but thats all fine with you!. Cant let them Poors get any of that money!!
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School paraprofessionals are way underpaid for what they do. In this case, she deserves the extra.
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Teachers are paid quite well considering they only work for half a year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80424416


No they aren't. They also only get off for a few months during which they don't get paid. Who told you they get paid when they aren't working?
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You said that, not me. They get paid well for the 180 days school is in session. Many make $60K so if they worked a full year they'd be making $120K. Doesn't sound too bad to me.
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even at $35k they are doing well for not teaching a damn thing.
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Teachers are paid quite well considering they only work for half a year.
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No they aren't. They also only get off for a few months during which they don't get paid. Who told you they get paid when they aren't working?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80506866


You said that, not me. They get paid well for the 180 days school is in session. Many make $60K so if they worked a full year they'd be making $120K. Doesn't sound too bad to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80424416


What teachers make 60K? Maybe in California or New York.

They barely make minimum wage in most southern states.
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Move out of the Styx, sweetheart.
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Teachers are paid quite well considering they only work for half a year.
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No they aren't. They also only get off for a few months during which they don't get paid. Who told you they get paid when they aren't working?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80506866


You said that, not me. They get paid well for the 180 days school is in session. Many make $60K so if they worked a full year they'd be making $120K. Doesn't sound too bad to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80424416


even at $35k they are doing well for not teaching a damn thing.
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Well, that's another subject. However, they babysit peoples little rugrats for 9 months of the year. Find a babysitter to work for that price.
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These are averages too. You don't start out making this kind of money in teaching.

Most make around 35K
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Right, so if they actually worked a full year, they'd be starting at $70K/yr. Sounds pretty fucking good to me.
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funded by private donations. doesn't even matter.
I've gotten a lot of red for telling the truth and being right. Just sayin'
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OP crying when the peasants get a tiny minuscule bailout for situations resulting from no fault their own. OP probably doesnt even wince when corrupt bankers and corporations get BILLIONS in bailout, even when these bankers and corporations caused the epic economic collapses in the first place. Reward the corrupt, and snub the very people who do good and actually pay the damn taxes that the money comes from.

The ignorance level of the OP is epic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80509055


Well do something about it hero! Start up your own occupy movement, that ought to make things right!...


DOrolleyes
 Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket


I am not the one CRYING about it. YOU are the one crying! LOL.

You are the one crying here about the "Poors" (poor folks) having a tiny sliver of the wealth which typically is passed around like pennies to the super wealthy. The super wealthy who have obtained every damn bit of wealth, yet you are a "crusader" here to stop the Poors from having a tiny sliver of it when the Poors are the ones who actually WORK and pay the god damn TAXES. Have you seen the latest findings where the most wealthy paid ZERO to 0.98% of the income in taxes? We Poors making $40,000 a year (not BILLIONS) pay 28%.

Ah, but thats all fine with you!. Cant let them Poors get any of that money!!
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Not crying just stating facts! There is no such thing as a free lunch!
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I love having the government feed, cloth, and house me!

I don't have to think or decide who to vote for.

It's like the luxurious life of a beef cow!

I wonder what the payoff is?


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No they aren't. They also only get off for a few months during which they don't get paid. Who told you they get paid when they aren't working?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80506866


You said that, not me. They get paid well for the 180 days school is in session. Many make $60K so if they worked a full year they'd be making $120K. Doesn't sound too bad to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80424416


What teachers make 60K? Maybe in California or New York.

They barely make minimum wage in most southern states.
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Move out of the Styx, sweetheart.
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Oh, yeah 60K will go so far in Cali or New York. Just can't wait to live there and be mobbed by a bunch of blacks and antifa queers on my way to work.
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They’ll start at $500 then get to $1000, $2500 and $25000 quick. Why? Because they’re intentionally destroying the US dollar and it’s about to become worthless. Anyone with a brain knows that UBI just doesn’t work.

Then when the dollar crashes they’ll introduce the Fed’s new digital currency, make all transactions digital, make owning metals or crypto illegal, then offer UBI to all in exchange for no property ownership.

People, it’s all right out in the open. I’m hearing it from people at the highest levels. It’s coming quick. The dollar will be dead by Christmas and UBI for renouncing ownership will be by 2023.
Like I told my ex-wife, I said: honey, I never drive faster than I can see. Besides that, it’s all in the reflexes…
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Teachers are paid quite well considering they only work for half a year.
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No they aren't. They also only get off for a few months during which they don't get paid. Who told you they get paid when they aren't working?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80506866


You said that, not me. They get paid well for the 180 days school is in session. Many make $60K so if they worked a full year they'd be making $120K. Doesn't sound too bad to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80424416


even at $35k they are doing well for not teaching a damn thing.
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Right? These people teach the same crap to kids for 30 years. None of the skills are special. Everyone who graduated from an American school should be able to teach a grade school class.
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These are averages too. You don't start out making this kind of money in teaching.

Most make around 35K
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Right, so if they actually worked a full year, they'd be starting at $70K/yr. Sounds pretty fucking good to me.
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They work 9 to 10 months retard. Plus a lot of them work in summer school to make ends meet. It's not some glamorous profession.
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I love having the government feed, cloth, and house me!

I don't have to think or decide who to vote for.

It's like the luxurious life of a beef cow!

I wonder what the payoff is?


yeahsure
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No they aren't. They also only get off for a few months during which they don't get paid. Who told you they get paid when they aren't working?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80506866


You said that, not me. They get paid well for the 180 days school is in session. Many make $60K so if they worked a full year they'd be making $120K. Doesn't sound too bad to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80424416


even at $35k they are doing well for not teaching a damn thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63927796


Right? These people teach the same crap to kids for 30 years. None of the skills are special. Everyone who graduated from an American school should be able to teach a grade school class.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80424416


You want to teach a class of 35 8th graders? Yeah, didn't think so. You need eyes in the back of your head. I don't even want to know what they do now. Probably having sex under the tables.
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No they aren't. They also only get off for a few months during which they don't get paid. Who told you they get paid when they aren't working?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80506866


You said that, not me. They get paid well for the 180 days school is in session. Many make $60K so if they worked a full year they'd be making $120K. Doesn't sound too bad to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80424416


even at $35k they are doing well for not teaching a damn thing.
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Well, that's another subject. However, they babysit peoples little rugrats for 9 months of the year. Find a babysitter to work for that price.
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If you don't like the job, choose another career. So tired of whiney teachers who want everyone to feel sorry for them. You guys are as bad as the pigs with the thin blue line crap. You chose this profession.
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I'd sink it into gold crypto beans and guns each month
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That's what I did with covid money
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You said that, not me. They get paid well for the 180 days school is in session. Many make $60K so if they worked a full year they'd be making $120K. Doesn't sound too bad to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80424416


even at $35k they are doing well for not teaching a damn thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63927796


Well, that's another subject. However, they babysit peoples little rugrats for 9 months of the year. Find a babysitter to work for that price.
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If you don't like the job, choose another career. So tired of whiney teachers who want everyone to feel sorry for them. You guys are as bad as the pigs with the thin blue line crap. You chose this profession.
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You said that, not me. They get paid well for the 180 days school is in session. Many make $60K so if they worked a full year they'd be making $120K. Doesn't sound too bad to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80424416


even at $35k they are doing well for not teaching a damn thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63927796


Well, that's another subject. However, they babysit peoples little rugrats for 9 months of the year. Find a babysitter to work for that price.
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If you don't like the job, choose another career. So tired of whiney teachers who want everyone to feel sorry for them. You guys are as bad as the pigs with the thin blue line crap. You chose this profession.
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Well as far as the "pigs" hun I can assure you that teachers are and have been in the same situation for a while. No appreciation and not able to discipline mommy and daddy's little angels.

Teachers should be able to slap the shit out your little turds.
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Annette Steele isn’t destitute or unemployed. But for a year she’ll be receiving $500 per month in no-strings-attached payments as part of an experimental universal basic income program in upstate New York.

Places from Compton, California, to Richmond, Virginia, are trying out guaranteed income programs, which gained more attention after the pandemic idled millions of workers.

Steele, a special education school aide, is getting her payments through a program in Ulster County, which covers parts of the Catskill Mountains and the Hudson River Valley.

During the pilot program, funded by private donations, 100 county residents making less than $46,900 annually will get $500 a month for a year. The income threshold was based on 80% of the county’s average median income, meaning it includes both the poor and a slice of the middle class — people who face financial stress but might not ordinarily qualify for government aid based on income.

For researchers, the pilot could give them a fuller picture of what happens when a range of people are sent payments that guarantee a basic living.

For Steele, 57, it’s a welcome financial boost that helped her pay for car insurance and groceries.

“It lessens my bills,” said Steele, who lives in the village of Ellenville with her retired husband. “People think because you’ve been working so many years, that you make this tremendous amount of money. But no, actually.”
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I think the idea itself has merit. But it will never work in the socio-economic system we currently have as the wealth is siphoned to the tippity top and unfairly. Its just another false gift. And we will lose more than we will gain from UBI (at the moment)....

But in a world that is functioning properly, in real harmony, where wealth was distributed in a completely fair way - A Universal basic income would work well to help people know that their basic needs are taken care of in accidents, emergencies, time of rest and contemplation, etc... and could be done with no strain at all.

Imagine what harmony would look like. We are headed there. Join me
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They’ll start at $500 then get to $1000, $2500 and $25000 quick. Why? Because they’re intentionally destroying the US dollar and it’s about to become worthless. Anyone with a brain knows that UBI just doesn’t work.

Then when the dollar crashes they’ll introduce the Fed’s new digital currency, make all transactions digital, make owning metals or crypto illegal, then offer UBI to all in exchange for no property ownership.

People, it’s all right out in the open. I’m hearing it from people at the highest levels. It’s coming quick. The dollar will be dead by Christmas and UBI for renouncing ownership will be by 2023.
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