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Well It's Here Folks ...UBI...UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME!

 
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School paraprofessionals are way underpaid for what they do. In this case, she deserves the extra.
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No. If you want more money, then further your education or find a new occupation. Best way to get ahead - stop working for others and become your own boss. The harder and more efficient your work, the more the boss makes. That should be you.
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Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards,
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So at people making $47,000 a year going to have to provide that extra $6,000 for those people? Or where is that money coming from?
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It will come from people like me who are already unfairly taxed, who pay taxes for schools yet have NO children enrolled.
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Isn't UBI a better alternative than having welfare checks, food stamps, disability payments, and all the other financial help from gov?
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You must own a Tattoo parlor or a liquor store in that area.
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School paraprofessionals are way underpaid for what they do. In this case, she deserves the extra.
 Quoting: GA Girl


No. If you want more money, then further your education or find a new occupation. Best way to get ahead - stop working for others and become your own boss. The harder and more efficient your work, the more the boss makes. That should be you.
 Quoting: FightForGod!


Certain professions pay just fine. But fill in the blank something-something studies, theater arts, etc. Not so much. Regardless, there seems to be a sense of entitlement that if a person got a college degree---no matter how marketable---that they should get out and make at least $80k/year.

Problems is, now living minimum wage is getting to $15/hr. So a "career" like serving up fast food, which used to be a bridge job for people in HS or college to get to the next stage in their earning power, is supposed to support a family of 4.

WTF. When your poison Big Mac, fries, and limestone flavored "shake" costs $16, don't wonder why.
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If you love starvation.
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I would use it to sink into a small business every month. In 6-8 months have all the equipment I needed and be able to start with more inventory or even hire someone to work for me part-time.
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if it not enough to cover the costs of the area. im sure hood houses in cali cost way more than mine and 500 a month is not enough for housing alone for a month in any area.

so is communism the reason for the pissing in the wind?
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These are averages too. You don't start out making this kind of money in teaching.

Most make around 35K
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Right, so if they actually worked a full year, they'd be starting at $70K/yr. Sounds pretty fucking good to me.
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They work 9 to 10 months retard. Plus a lot of them work in summer school to make ends meet. It's not some glamorous profession.
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No they don't. The standard US school year is 180 days. It's spread over 9 months with a metric shit ton of days off throughout it. No other profession gets that kind of time off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80424416


Per their OWN UNION the average teacher works about 1200 hours a year INCLUDING all the hours they lie about “grading papers at home”.

I work in corporate America and we really work twice that many hours PLUS travel. But I don’t whine….I chose it.

Besides, they should be ashamed of what they teach. Highest paid teachers in the world but we have the dumbest graduates in the developed world. But they sure teach our children all types of lies.
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Wow an extra $500 a month from the government, with no strings attached! No thanks! One thing I’ve learned is in life nothing is free! Oh you’ll be paying for this one way or another - you just don’t see it yet.
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Annette Steele isn’t destitute or unemployed. But for a year she’ll be receiving $500 per month in no-strings-attached payments as part of an experimental universal basic income program in upstate New York.

Places from Compton, California, to Richmond, Virginia, are trying out guaranteed income programs, which gained more attention after the pandemic idled millions of workers.

Steele, a special education school aide, is getting her payments through a program in Ulster County, which covers parts of the Catskill Mountains and the Hudson River Valley.

During the pilot program, funded by private donations, 100 county residents making less than $46,900 annually will get $500 a month for a year. The income threshold was based on 80% of the county’s average median income, meaning it includes both the poor and a slice of the middle class — people who face financial stress but might not ordinarily qualify for government aid based on income.

For researchers, the pilot could give them a fuller picture of what happens when a range of people are sent payments that guarantee a basic living.

For Steele, 57, it’s a welcome financial boost that helped her pay for car insurance and groceries.

“It lessens my bills,” said Steele, who lives in the village of Ellenville with her retired husband. “People think because you’ve been working so many years, that you make this tremendous amount of money. But no, actually.”
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It's ALL about control

Take away someone's ability to produce their own income, and then hand them little tiny table scraps that they will grow dependent on.

Mark of the Beast... Coming soon.
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500 a month isn't shit
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if it not enough to cover the costs of the area. im sure hood houses in cali cost way more than mine and 500 a month is not enough for housing alone for a month in any area.

so is communism the reason for the pissing in the wind?
 Quoting: OldCar


Everything you see going on, is ALL about training for the Mark of the Beast.

Anyone who doesn't see or believe that, will come to believe it too late.
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Thread: Disney - $800 hotel rooms and $100 sandwiches
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any UBI out there for terminally-ill retired Intel? Otherwise, I'm going to continue spilling my guts at GLP.
signatures so often represent submission to criminal authority, so I am averse to signatures in any designation.
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some ppl on here are too stupid to realize they all get the same amount of $$ a mth now. it is $0,same they gave at birth to u and the rich kid. same # to all. that same # is added to the costs of everything.

now u want to change the 0 to $1000? bread +$1000,rent +1000 , cup of coffee +10000. still sound like a good idea?
this works well for the govern thou. they tax every dollar,so now they can tax every person more $$. oops uncle joe and gayo got rich but not u. still sound smart?


lets look at this a lil more. WTF did this $$ come from to pay these ppl? TAXES. so now this lady is getting your $$. why u complaining bout not having enuf $$ ,when u can afford to give it away??? joke is on u isn't it?

the trick looks good there cause the costs didn't go up yet. not everyone is getting the windfall. we know this does not work well. minimum wagge is higher than in 1970 but the average person can buuy less than in 1970. why? cause the freaking costs went up.

why is it so hard for ppl to see how dumb ths idea is? u make 100 times what ppl did before and u have can afford less. my grandfather did more earning $1 a DAY than u can with your $100 a day.but there are thousnads of more govern workers than back then. how does that work out?

ppl have sucker written on their heads. take the politicians pay down to $500,then u would see progress and the ppl would get richer.otherwise u are cutting your head off to save your arm. not too smart.
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School paraprofessionals are way underpaid for what they do. In this case, she deserves the extra.
 Quoting: GA Girl


No. If you want more money, then further your education or find a new occupation. Best way to get ahead - stop working for others and become your own boss. The harder and more efficient your work, the more the boss makes. That should be you.
 Quoting: FightForGod!


So basically fuck the children and look out for yourself only? Just what god are you fighting for little buckaroo?
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500 a month in new york ! Hahahahahaahahahah. That wont pay for cigarettes.
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Yeah they better be looking for loosecees

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Isn't UBI a better alternative than having welfare checks, food stamps, disability payments, and all the other financial help from gov?
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It will most likely be in addition to those programs though!
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We'll have to mortgage the Earth to space aliens in order to keep up with the imaginary concept of money and value for money.
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I'm honestly appalled that anyone on GLP could possibly think this is good. My day just got ruined. Evidently, the doom is real this time. How can people not see that this is a government control measure? Socialism turns to Communism...not the fairytale kind either. History repeats itself. It always has and always will.
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$500 for some folk in Upstate New York, in year long "trials," isn't Universal, nor is it a Basic Income.

Universal Basic Income isn't "Here Folks" until I get it, you get it, and every other single American Citizen gets it. Equally. "Universal."

Until everyone, from the poorest people, on up to Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos. Where Everyone gets the Exact Same Amount of just barely enough money to find a place to sleep warm at night and enough to eat so as not to starve. No less, no more.

However...

Beyond that, let capitalism and free trade and commerce provide for anything beyond basic sustenance, with ZERO other handouts or exceptions. No food stamps, No free phones, nothing else.

Want more than the UBI will provide? Earn it through wages or investment.

If you don't use the UBI to actually buy food and shelter, that is your business. Maybe, by next month's UBI, you will have learned the lesson and be more like the fabled ant, and not like the unwise grasshopper.

So, we have not yet had a UBI that is really "Universal" or a "Basic Income."

Furthermore:

Pay for UBI by taxing INTERNATIONAL CORPORATIONS for the chance to do business within the USA with a VAT tax. Andrew Yang was right about UBI and a VAT to pay for it.

Tie the UBI amount to, and make it adjustable to, any inflation, and make it NO STRINGS ATTACHED.

Want to hold UBI over citizen's head and make them do whatever? Want to use UBI to make people get vaxxed, for example? Fuck off. The UBI law must include "No Strings Attached" except citizenship.

Any strings attached, or eroding UBI's value with inflation must be prevented. UBI must always be enough to provide for only basic food and shelter. Let people be free. Yet, let them work and earn in order to enrich their lives beyond mere existence.

Until such a time as we realize true UBI, there will always be wage slavery and universal emancipation hasn't really happened, this includes people of all races.

The time for true UBI is now.
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Annette Steele isn’t destitute or unemployed. But for a year she’ll be receiving $500 per month in no-strings-attached payments as part of an experimental universal basic income program in upstate New York.

Places from Compton, California, to Richmond, Virginia, are trying out guaranteed income programs, which gained more attention after the pandemic idled millions of workers.

Steele, a special education school aide, is getting her payments through a program in Ulster County, which covers parts of the Catskill Mountains and the Hudson River Valley.

During the pilot program, funded by private donations, 100 county residents making less than $46,900 annually will get $500 a month for a year. The income threshold was based on 80% of the county’s average median income, meaning it includes both the poor and a slice of the middle class — people who face financial stress but might not ordinarily qualify for government aid based on income.

For researchers, the pilot could give them a fuller picture of what happens when a range of people are sent payments that guarantee a basic living.

For Steele, 57, it’s a welcome financial boost that helped her pay for car insurance and groceries.

“It lessens my bills,” said Steele, who lives in the village of Ellenville with her retired husband. “People think because you’ve been working so many years, that you make this tremendous amount of money. But no, actually.”
 Quoting: Don Draper from Nantucket


If she loses her job, she will almost have per month what the aged,blind,and disabled live on.


In the social circus,its still cruel to throw peanuts at the starving crowd.
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I'm honestly appalled that anyone on GLP could possibly think this is good. My day just got ruined. Evidently, the doom is real this time. How can people not see that this is a government control measure? Socialism turns to Communism...not the fairytale kind either. History repeats itself. It always has and always will.
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I think it is safe to say that the majority of the proponents of this free gibs me dats are just trolling here. Most glp'ers know that Socialism is not a good thing!
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I really don't give a fuck what NY, CA, WA, or CO do. It's not what the rest of the country will do.
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$500 a week would be more like something you could live on
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Hmmm 2-bifacial solar panels with micro inverters or 1-240 amp hour LiFePo battery per month.
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True UBI is not Socialism. Milton Friedman advocated for a UBI.

UBI works perfectly within the framework of Capitalism.

In fact, Capitalism would see tremendous growth with a UBI.

It would be a perpetual stimulus for the economy.
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Most glp'ers know that Socialism is not a good thing!
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Absolutely correct but would you send the money back or not spend it?
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Annette Steele isn’t destitute or unemployed. But for a year she’ll be receiving $500 per month in no-strings-attached payments as part of an experimental universal basic income program in upstate New York.

Places from Compton, California, to Richmond, Virginia, are trying out guaranteed income programs, which gained more attention after the pandemic idled millions of workers.

Steele, a special education school aide, is getting her payments through a program in Ulster County, which covers parts of the Catskill Mountains and the Hudson River Valley.

During the pilot program, funded by private donations, 100 county residents making less than $46,900 annually will get $500 a month for a year. The income threshold was based on 80% of the county’s average median income, meaning it includes both the poor and a slice of the middle class — people who face financial stress but might not ordinarily qualify for government aid based on income.

For researchers, the pilot could give them a fuller picture of what happens when a range of people are sent payments that guarantee a basic living.

For Steele, 57, it’s a welcome financial boost that helped her pay for car insurance and groceries.

“It lessens my bills,” said Steele, who lives in the village of Ellenville with her retired husband. “People think because you’ve been working so many years, that you make this tremendous amount of money. But no, actually.”
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Awesome. I'll take it.
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you'll be paying out your ass for food by the time it's over you fucking idiot.





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