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Christianity or paganism?

 
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Jesus is King and High Priest of Israel, in the line of Mechezeldic. Prophecy is in good shape..lol
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Saying so don’t make it so.
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You are antichrist.
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Absolutely.
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Jesus is King and High Priest of Israel, in the line of Mechezeldic. Prophecy is in good shape..lol
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Do you claim to be a believer in the Blood of Jesus Christ shed on the cross for YOU?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80512535


Didn't he for everyone ?
Shakti.ji

The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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Jesus Christ is the Roman Construct Christ, an imposter to the true Messiah YAHUSHA.

YAHUAH is the one true Elohime beside him there is no other. He shares His esteem with no one.

Lord is Ba'al do you pray to Ba'al?
god is many, do you pray to god?
How many false religions believe in Jesus? Many.

No one comes to the Father but through YAHUSHA, his name means YAH's Salvation, and the Fathers name is in the Messiahs name YAHUAH/ YAHUSHA

Christ is Roman Christos is not He-brew. Jesus Christ is a pagan name with no power made up by the false Popes of Rome.

There is only one name by which men get saved and that is YAHUSHA, who has all authority here in Earth and Heaven above.

John 5:43

I have come in My Father’s name, and you have not received Me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will receive him. 44How can you believe if you accept glory from one another, yet do not seek the glory that comes from the only YAHUAH?

Christians break the first 4 commandments and say they are above the law.

Mathew 7:22

22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’


Revelation 12:17
Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep YAH’s commands and hold fast their testimony about YAHUSHA.


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there are different paths I am male, my path and dharma are based on certain biochemistry and actions that are masculine. My karma dictates my learning. Know yourself is a great axiom.
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Ahhh, but the joy is union of the masculine WITH the feminine within ourselves, which we all have both
Shakti.ji

The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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Creating Christ: How Roman Emperors Invented Christianity
by James S. Valliant, C.W. Fahy
[link to www.amazon.com (secure)]
 Quoting: 936432979


Also Caesar's Messiah, by Joseph Atwell

Another informative read is "NOT IN HIS IMAGE by John lash lamb.

You are definitely free to have your own opinion after reading these, but at least consider what they disclose
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


It is actually Atwill not Atwell, and his analysis is sophomoric. Scholars who even oppose the story of Jesus, have debunked and rubbished Atwill’s claims of an invented Jesus’ story as nonsense. Dorothy Milne Murdock who thinks Jesus was based off of the egyptian god horus says "There is no scientific evidence that the canonical gospels were written by any Flavians, whether Josephus or otherwise.”

How do you people actually fall for this stuff?
 Quoting: mr dull socks


It's atwell.mi have the book. Fall for this "shit"...well I have an open mind and put 2 and 2 together, plus I connect dots. I don't just accept what I've been told and I have unindocrinated myself.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Since you are so learned answer me this...

1. Why does Atwill ignore what is said by Roman writers? Tacitus’ comment in Annals 15.44 places the origins of Christianity, and Roman reaction to it, nearly a decade before Titus’ final victory. Atwill says nothing at all about this critical passage; nor does he mention Pliny’s letter to Trajan asking what to do about Christians.

2. How can someone invent a story in the first century that mentions J_wish towns and provinces and expect J_ws to believe such stories? Early Christianity was mainly of J_wish adherents.

3. Why are there no J_wish literature from the second century mentioning such an invention? They would DEFINITELY write about it, if for no other reason then to keep other j_ws from falling into the trap of those dirty romans.

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Jesus is King and High Priest of Israel, in the line of Mechezeldic. Prophecy is in good shape..lol
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Do you claim to be a believer in the Blood of Jesus Christ shed on the cross for YOU?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80512535


lol you jumped tracks a wee bit.
oh very much am a believer in the Blood of Jesus Christ,
probably more than you'll ever imagine.

“For there are three that testify: the Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three agree” (1 John 5:7–8).
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To have access to the Kingdom
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

What are you talking about? You changed the terms. No one said anything about "accessing" anything... you just made that up now...for some reason...
is to know and live the second commandment as given by Yahshua... known as the golden rule, also encompasses the practice of not infringing on another's free will, this includes all sentient beings. Only then can the beast ego be tamed, opening the door to the Kingdom, that of unconditional love.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

You just made that up.

You have no verses for any of that?

Why are you bothering pretending Jesus anything?

What exactly do you think "Kingdom" means?
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Jesus is King and High Priest of Israel, in the line of Mechezeldic. Prophecy is in good shape..lol
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Do you claim to be a believer in the Blood of Jesus Christ shed on the cross for YOU?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80512535


lol you jumped tracks a wee bit.
oh very much am a believer in the Blood of Jesus Christ,
probably more than you'll ever imagine.

“For there are three that testify: the Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three agree” (1 John 5:7–8).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79820602


Tell me more about your Faith in the Blood of Jesus Christ.

Please.
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Speaking of which you know the words Ravanna and Ravenous share the same root?
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I am pagan.

I don't care when Wicca was started or if pagan means circle dwellers or country folk.


I just don't find God in a book, building, or through a silver bedpan with a sacred black stone in it at the Kaaba.

I experience God through nature. Yesterday it was just pulsing.


When I started this journey, my large Wiccan group wanted balance in the circle, male and female. We wrestled over how to include gay members, and finally the HPs assigned them a male/female energy.

There was never any denial of gender.

We did cord magic, and our cords were proudly red, white and blue.

Most were conservatives who ran businesses. Some were liberals, but no damn body tried to throw you out or call you stupid if your political stance wasn't like theirs.
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interesting
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To have access to the Kingdom
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

What are you talking about? You changed the terms. No one said anything about "accessing" anything... you just made that up now...for some reason...
is to know and live the second commandment as given by Yahshua... known as the golden rule, also encompasses the practice of not infringing on another's free will, this includes all sentient beings. Only then can the beast ego be tamed, opening the door to the Kingdom, that of unconditional love.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

You just made that up.

You have no verses for any of that?

Why are you bothering pretending Jesus anything?

What exactly do you think "Kingdom" means?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80512535


Lolssssss

Are you representative of the Roman inquisition ?
Shakti.ji

The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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there are different paths I am male, my path and dharma are based on certain biochemistry and actions that are masculine. My karma dictates my learning. Know yourself is a great axiom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79820602


Ahhh, but the joy is union of the masculine WITH the feminine within ourselves, which we all have both
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Ahhh, but you are blowing more smoke up your own ass... tickle tickle...
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To have access to the Kingdom
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

What are you talking about? You changed the terms. No one said anything about "accessing" anything... you just made that up now...for some reason...
is to know and live the second commandment as given by Yahshua... known as the golden rule, also encompasses the practice of not infringing on another's free will, this includes all sentient beings. Only then can the beast ego be tamed, opening the door to the Kingdom, that of unconditional love.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

You just made that up.

You have no verses for any of that?

Why are you bothering pretending Jesus anything?

What exactly do you think "Kingdom" means?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80512535


Lolssssss

Are you representative of the Roman inquisition ?
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

I am irrelevant.

This is how you do not answer what was asked of you

for all to see...
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there are different paths I am male, my path and dharma are based on certain biochemistry and actions that are masculine. My karma dictates my learning. Know yourself is a great axiom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79820602


Ahhh, but the joy is union of the masculine WITH the feminine within ourselves, which we all have both
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


my female is my body from mother earth my masculine is from the spirit on high just like the symbols.
but the mechanics use the tools you have been blessed with' are we back to Is'Ra'El'? Biblical Physics may be too much for this class...lol
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Also Caesar's Messiah, by Joseph Atwell

Another informative read is "NOT IN HIS IMAGE by John lash lamb.

You are definitely free to have your own opinion after reading these, but at least consider what they disclose
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


It is actually Atwill not Atwell, and his analysis is sophomoric. Scholars who even oppose the story of Jesus, have debunked and rubbished Atwill’s claims of an invented Jesus’ story as nonsense. Dorothy Milne Murdock who thinks Jesus was based off of the egyptian god horus says "There is no scientific evidence that the canonical gospels were written by any Flavians, whether Josephus or otherwise.”

How do you people actually fall for this stuff?
 Quoting: mr dull socks


It's atwell.mi have the book. Fall for this "shit"...well I have an open mind and put 2 and 2 together, plus I connect dots. I don't just accept what I've been told and I have unindocrinated myself.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Since you are so learned answer me this...

1. Why does Atwill ignore what is said by Roman writers? Tacitus’ comment in Annals 15.44 places the origins of Christianity, and Roman reaction to it, nearly a decade before Titus’ final victory. Atwill says nothing at all about this critical passage; nor does he mention Pliny’s letter to Trajan asking what to do about Christians.

2. How can someone invent a story in the first century that mentions J_wish towns and provinces and expect J_ws to believe such stories? Early Christianity was mainly of J_wish adherents.

3. Why are there no J_wish literature from the second century mentioning such an invention? They would DEFINITELY write about it, if for no other reason then to keep other j_ws from falling into the trap of those dirty romans.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


Don't know, I'll have a look
Shakti.ji

The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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Why are you bothering pretending Jesus anything?


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Look at all the vigorous oppostion to simple Faith in Christ

to so vehememently say faith is really anything else...
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Look at all the vigorous oppostion to simple Faith in Christ

to so vehemently say faith is really anything else...
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To have access to the Kingdom
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

What are you talking about? You changed the terms. No one said anything about "accessing" anything... you just made that up now...for some reason...
is to know and live the second commandment as given by Yahshua... known as the golden rule, also encompasses the practice of not infringing on another's free will, this includes all sentient beings. Only then can the beast ego be tamed, opening the door to the Kingdom, that of unconditional love.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

You just made that up.

You have no verses for any of that?

Why are you bothering pretending Jesus anything?

What exactly do you think "Kingdom" means?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80512535


Lolssssss

Are you representative of the Roman inquisition ?
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

I am irrelevant.

This is how you do not answer what was asked of you

for all to see...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80512535

I just said...the second commandment of Yahshua was the golden rule. It leads into the first commandment m from which everything hangs.

Take it up with him if you don't like it.
Shakti.ji

The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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Satan masquerades as an angel of light!

So do his servants!
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there are different paths I am male, my path and dharma are based on certain biochemistry and actions that are masculine. My karma dictates my learning. Know yourself is a great axiom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79820602


Ahhh, but the joy is union of the masculine WITH the feminine within ourselves, which we all have both
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


my female is my body from mother earth my masculine is from the spirit on high just like the symbols.
but the mechanics use the tools you have been blessed with' are we back to Is'Ra'El'? Biblical Physics may be too much for this class...lol
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I agree
Shakti.ji

The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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What are you talking about? You changed the terms. No one said anything about "accessing" anything... you just made that up now...for some reason...
...

You just made that up.

You have no verses for any of that?

Why are you bothering pretending Jesus anything?

What exactly do you think "Kingdom" means?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80512535


Lolssssss

Are you representative of the Roman inquisition ?
 Quoting: Satya Revelations

I am irrelevant.

This is how you do not answer what was asked of you

for all to see...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80512535

I just said...the second commandment of Yahshua was the golden rule. It leads into the first commandment m from which everything hangs.

Take it up with him if you don't like it.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


I like it.
Can't wait to see Him.

It just has nothing to do with what you were asked...

I know it is impossible for you to say I don't know or I was wrong

until you were told that.

Now that I've told you that,

I am sure will soon say just that

elsewhere...
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It is actually Atwill not Atwell, and his analysis is sophomoric. Scholars who even oppose the story of Jesus, have debunked and rubbished Atwill’s claims of an invented Jesus’ story as nonsense. Dorothy Milne Murdock who thinks Jesus was based off of the egyptian god horus says "There is no scientific evidence that the canonical gospels were written by any Flavians, whether Josephus or otherwise.”

How do you people actually fall for this stuff?
 Quoting: mr dull socks


It's atwell.mi have the book. Fall for this "shit"...well I have an open mind and put 2 and 2 together, plus I connect dots. I don't just accept what I've been told and I have unindocrinated myself.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Since you are so learned answer me this...

1. Why does Atwill ignore what is said by Roman writers? Tacitus’ comment in Annals 15.44 places the origins of Christianity, and Roman reaction to it, nearly a decade before Titus’ final victory. Atwill says nothing at all about this critical passage; nor does he mention Pliny’s letter to Trajan asking what to do about Christians.

2. How can someone invent a story in the first century that mentions J_wish towns and provinces and expect J_ws to believe such stories? Early Christianity was mainly of J_wish adherents.

3. Why are there no J_wish literature from the second century mentioning such an invention? They would DEFINITELY write about it, if for no other reason then to keep other j_ws from falling into the trap of those dirty romans.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


Don't know, I'll have a look
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


At least you are honest. that is great. But i can tell you that no one researched more than i did before i became a follower of the way (Christian). I have looked extensively into all of these theories, and none of them are true. they all fall apart under real scrutiny. The "Jesus Seminar" being the most famous of them all.

All of these myths are simply a satanic deception. Satan invents all sorts of reason to divert your attention away from the truth. this is just another one of those things. and so are most modern churches. You are on the right path but going the wrong way.

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Jesus is King and High Priest of Israel, in the line of Mechezeldic. Prophecy is in good shape..lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79820602


Do you claim to be a believer in the Blood of Jesus Christ shed on the cross for YOU?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80512535


lol you jumped tracks a wee bit.
oh very much am a believer in the Blood of Jesus Christ,
probably more than you'll ever imagine.

“For there are three that testify: the Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three agree” (1 John 5:7–8).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79820602


Tell me more about your Faith in the Blood of Jesus Christ.

Please.
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nah, we'll keep that gnostic. You though, stay the course.lol
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It's atwell.mi have the book. Fall for this "shit"...well I have an open mind and put 2 and 2 together, plus I connect dots. I don't just accept what I've been told and I have unindocrinated myself.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Since you are so learned answer me this...

1. Why does Atwill ignore what is said by Roman writers? Tacitus’ comment in Annals 15.44 places the origins of Christianity, and Roman reaction to it, nearly a decade before Titus’ final victory. Atwill says nothing at all about this critical passage; nor does he mention Pliny’s letter to Trajan asking what to do about Christians.

2. How can someone invent a story in the first century that mentions J_wish towns and provinces and expect J_ws to believe such stories? Early Christianity was mainly of J_wish adherents.

3. Why are there no J_wish literature from the second century mentioning such an invention? They would DEFINITELY write about it, if for no other reason then to keep other j_ws from falling into the trap of those dirty romans.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


Don't know, I'll have a look
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


At least you are honest. that is great. But i can tell you that no oneresearched more than i did before i became a follower of the way (Christian). I have looked extensively into all of these theories, and none of them are true. they all fall apart under real scrutiny. The "Jesus Seminar" being the most famous of them all.

All of these myths are simply a satanic deception. Satan invents all sorts of reason to divert your attention away from the truth. this is just another one of those things. and so are most modern churches. You are on the right path but going the wrong way.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


Good on you

But don't assume you know my heart
Shakti.ji

The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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If Faith in His Kingdom was within you

you would preach Him.

You don't.

You preach you.
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It's atwell.mi have the book. Fall for this "shit"...well I have an open mind and put 2 and 2 together, plus I connect dots. I don't just accept what I've been told and I have unindocrinated myself.
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


Since you are so learned answer me this...

1. Why does Atwill ignore what is said by Roman writers? Tacitus’ comment in Annals 15.44 places the origins of Christianity, and Roman reaction to it, nearly a decade before Titus’ final victory. Atwill says nothing at all about this critical passage; nor does he mention Pliny’s letter to Trajan asking what to do about Christians.

2. How can someone invent a story in the first century that mentions J_wish towns and provinces and expect J_ws to believe such stories? Early Christianity was mainly of J_wish adherents.

3. Why are there no J_wish literature from the second century mentioning such an invention? They would DEFINITELY write about it, if for no other reason then to keep other j_ws from falling into the trap of those dirty romans.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


Don't know, I'll have a look
 Quoting: Satya Revelations


At least you are honest. that is great. But i can tell you that no one researched more than i did before i became a follower of the way (Christian). I have looked extensively into all of these theories, and none of them are true. they all fall apart under real scrutiny. The "Jesus Seminar" being the most famous of them all.

All of these myths are simply a satanic deception. Satan invents all sorts of reason to divert your attention away from the truth. this is just another one of those things. and so are most modern churches. You are on the right path but going the wrong way.
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To add, this response of yours has NOTHING to do with the topic of the thread. Why you presume conclusions about me based on the op is ignorant
Shakti.ji

The servants of the Most Merciful walk upon the earth easily; and when the ignorant address them harshly they say words of peace.

When the heart is pure, there is no difficulty, whatsoever. Why should one be afraid of any one if there be no evil thought in us?

Of what worth is creation ~ if it doesn’t put a sparkle in your eye ~ and a song in your heart?
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Why don't you just move on and try to really start your own guru cult bullshit milking practice.

You will get some followers and support if you are good at what you do at all...

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Why are you bothering pretending Jesus anything?


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80512535

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80512535





GLP