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Zovalex
User ID: 80278243 09/15/2021 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why is it that every religion and spiritual teaching the humans involved speak with the spirit or Deity in their own human language? Quoting: Ty_ But anyway, thoughts anyone? It’s a fine question, Ty. One that deserves a considered answer. Tangentially, did you know there are some who speak to their deity in their native non-verbal “body language”? For example, let’s look very closely at how Nataly Hay “speaks” to her deity.... At 2:00, she prays in a body language that’s almost trance-like: Last Edited by Zovalex on 09/15/2021 10:52 PM “Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery. It gives you the illusion of freedom, makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor, while making an enemy of those who are trying to free you or open your eyes.” -Fiyah “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe “You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.” -SOL |
Ty_
Veneficus Vita User ID: 80724039 Australia 09/15/2021 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why is it that every religion and spiritual teaching the humans involved speak with the spirit or Deity in their own human language? Quoting: Ty_ But anyway, thoughts anyone? It’s a fine question, Ty. One that deserves a considered answer. Tangentially, did you know there are some who speak to their deity in their native non-verbal “body language”? For example, let’s look very closely at how Nataly Hay “speaks” to her deity.... At 2:00, she prays in a body language that’s almost trance-like: Dance for the Gods? Familiar with that and familiar with dance being a method of communication. Communicating with (implying bi directional) Deities through dance and body language, hmm. I don't think so... unless you mean the first line I said. Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight? I guess this might fit with communicating via energy/emotion, etc. Where the dance is causing a particular feeling to be raised within the dancer and expressed to the Deity (or crowd, when we talk of purely entertainment purposes of dance). Last Edited by Tý_ on 09/15/2021 11:12 PM Coz reasons, probably. Elea tel'Taur GDMD |
Green Witch
(OP) Pythonissam Vita User ID: 74391656 United States 09/15/2021 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why is it that every religion and spiritual teaching the humans involved speak with the spirit or Deity in their own human language? Quoting: Ty_ But anyway, thoughts anyone? It’s a fine question, Ty. One that deserves a considered answer. Tangentially, did you know there are some who speak to their deity in their native non-verbal “body language”? For example, let’s look very closely at how Nataly Hay “speaks” to her deity.... At 2:00, she prays in a body language that’s almost trance-like: It's always about vibration. Build up and release. The cosmos 'speaks' through vibration and frequency. Words are vibration as well but sometimes they are a poor substitute for movement and thought. “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
Ty_
Veneficus Vita User ID: 80724039 Australia 09/15/2021 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why is it that every religion and spiritual teaching the humans involved speak with the spirit or Deity in their own human language? Quoting: Ty_ But anyway, thoughts anyone? It’s a fine question, Ty. One that deserves a considered answer. Tangentially, did you know there are some who speak to their deity in their native non-verbal “body language”? For example, let’s look very closely at how Nataly Hay “speaks” to her deity.... At 2:00, she prays in a body language that’s almost trance-like: It's always about vibration. Build up and release. The cosmos 'speaks' through vibration and frequency. Words are vibration as well but sometimes they are a poor substitute for movement and thought. Hah, you said what I said in my edit :P Also answers the question in a sort of reverse engineering way. :) Non verbal interpreted and translated in to verbal or written word :) Last Edited by Tý_ on 09/15/2021 11:15 PM Coz reasons, probably. Elea tel'Taur GDMD |
Green Witch
(OP) Pythonissam Vita User ID: 74391656 United States 09/15/2021 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why is it that every religion and spiritual teaching the humans involved speak with the spirit or Deity in their own human language? Quoting: Ty_ But anyway, thoughts anyone? It’s a fine question, Ty. One that deserves a considered answer. Tangentially, did you know there are some who speak to their deity in their native non-verbal “body language”? For example, let’s look very closely at how Nataly Hay “speaks” to her deity.... At 2:00, she prays in a body language that’s almost trance-like: It's always about vibration. Build up and release. The cosmos 'speaks' through vibration and frequency. Words are vibration as well but sometimes they are a poor substitute for movement and thought. Hah, you said what I said in my edit :P “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
Ty_
Veneficus Vita User ID: 80724039 Australia 09/15/2021 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | aaaand also see my edit in the post you quoted already... I gotta stop doing that. You're just sitting there like a steel trap ready to quote me. :P Last Edited by Tý_ on 09/15/2021 11:17 PM Coz reasons, probably. Elea tel'Taur GDMD |
Green Witch
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Ty_
Veneficus Vita User ID: 80724039 Australia 09/15/2021 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pfft, you can't even quote properly. Or, hide your quote fail by editing post-postum. :P Last Edited by Tý_ on 09/15/2021 11:21 PM Coz reasons, probably. Elea tel'Taur GDMD |
Ty_
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Green Witch
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Ty_
Veneficus Vita User ID: 80724039 Australia 09/15/2021 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pfft, you can't even quote properly. Or, hide your quote fail by editing post-postum. :P Why Ty, what eva do you mean? *runs thumb along the edge of the 12 inch blade she just bought* LOL Yes, "blade". Stick it in ya drawer already :P Coz reasons, probably. Elea tel'Taur GDMD |
Green Witch
(OP) Pythonissam Vita User ID: 74391656 United States 09/15/2021 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pfft, you can't even quote properly. Or, hide your quote fail by editing post-postum. :P Why Ty, what eva do you mean? *runs thumb along the edge of the 12 inch blade she just bought* LOL Yes, "blade". Stick it in ya drawer already :P gotta make room lol “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
Zovalex
User ID: 80278243 09/15/2021 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's always about vibration. Build up and release. The cosmos 'speaks' through vibration and frequency. Words are vibration as well but sometimes they are a poor substitute for movement and thought. Quoting: Green Witch I like this. ....bodies vibrating... ....building up intense vibrational frequency .... ....powerful release .... That reminds me: I read somewhere recently that sex energy is used in witchcraft. Is this true? If so, how is it used? . “Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery. It gives you the illusion of freedom, makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor, while making an enemy of those who are trying to free you or open your eyes.” -Fiyah “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe “You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.” -SOL |
Ty_
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Green Witch
(OP) Pythonissam Vita User ID: 74391656 United States 09/15/2021 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's always about vibration. Build up and release. The cosmos 'speaks' through vibration and frequency. Words are vibration as well but sometimes they are a poor substitute for movement and thought. Quoting: Green Witch I like this. ....bodies vibrating... ....building up intense vibrational frequency .... ....powerful release .... That reminds me: I read somewhere recently that sex energy is used in witchcraft. Is this true? If so, how is it used? . Ritual sex magick is indeed a real thing used by some in the Craft but not all. Like almost everything else in the Craft, everyone who practices this particular form of magick does it differently. The basic principles are to build energy and release it. The sexual act being the method by which power is raised. Then when you have your 'happy ending' and you've set your intention, you've released that energy back into the universe. You can do this by yourself but its preferable to have a partner. “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
Ty_
Veneficus Vita User ID: 80724039 Australia 09/15/2021 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's always about vibration. Build up and release. The cosmos 'speaks' through vibration and frequency. Words are vibration as well but sometimes they are a poor substitute for movement and thought. Quoting: Green Witch I like this. ....bodies vibrating... ....building up intense vibrational frequency .... ....powerful release .... That reminds me: I read somewhere recently that sex energy is used in witchcraft. Is this true? If so, how is it used? . Resonates well, huh. :) Sex magick is old. Also symbolic. What's the deal with consummating a marriage? In simple terms, think of sex magic as tandem spell working utilizing primal masculine and feminine energies unified toward a shared goal. That goal will of course be what each party is focusing their intent and will upon, each aiming to match the pre-agreed upon energy that is required for the task. As with any raising and releasing of energy to the universe, the whole thing should reach a crescendo and release at the same time. You can see this sort of building to a frenzy and suddenly stopping with a big crash and cease of music, etc. in other spiritual workings. Btw, totally the same principle behind a heap of practices. Prayer in the congregation that are all speaking the same words, same rate, perhaps with music that all ceases simultaneously with their word "Amen", or whatever is the tradition "so mote it be", etc. Last Edited by Tý_ on 09/15/2021 11:51 PM Coz reasons, probably. Elea tel'Taur GDMD |
Elfsong
User ID: 16583171 United States 09/15/2021 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I need a mecation, where some nice man comes in and cleans the damn house. Quoting: pool And, starts anti-vaxxer football parties. I am good at cleaning house. fixing things some cooking. painting. DONT ask me to wallpaper, it will look like bubble rap. oh but I hate foot ball and dont live in usa. may the Goddes bles you. Careful Dark Man.. there are woman in the US that would 'kill' for a man like you. working with Positive Thoughts will result in Positive Outcomes. |
Elfsong
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Green Witch
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Green Witch
(OP) Pythonissam Vita User ID: 74391656 United States 09/15/2021 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I need a mecation, where some nice man comes in and cleans the damn house. Quoting: pool And, starts anti-vaxxer football parties. I am good at cleaning house. fixing things some cooking. painting. DONT ask me to wallpaper, it will look like bubble rap. oh but I hate foot ball and dont live in usa. may the Goddes bles you. Careful Dark Man.. there are woman in the US that would 'kill' for a man like you. True lol “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
Zovalex
User ID: 80278243 09/16/2021 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As with any raising and releasing of energy to the universe, the whole thing should reach a crescendo and release at the same time. Quoting: Ty_ You can see this sort of building to a frenzy and suddenly stopping with a big crash and cease of music, etc. in other spiritual workings. Btw, totally the same principle behind a heap of practices. Intriguing. I would like to learn more on this subject, but I’m fading fast.....zzzzzzz..... . Last Edited by Zovalex on 09/16/2021 12:06 AM “Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery. It gives you the illusion of freedom, makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor, while making an enemy of those who are trying to free you or open your eyes.” -Fiyah “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe “You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.” -SOL |
Green Witch
(OP) Pythonissam Vita User ID: 74391656 United States 09/16/2021 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As with any raising and releasing of energy to the universe, the whole thing should reach a crescendo and release at the same time. Quoting: Ty_ You can see this sort of building to a frenzy and suddenly stopping with a big crash and cease of music, etc. in other spiritual workings. Btw, totally the same principle behind a heap of practices. Intriguing. I would like to learn more on this subject, but I’m fading fast.....zzzzzzz..... . goodnight Z :P “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
Ty_
Veneficus Vita User ID: 80724039 Australia 09/16/2021 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As with any raising and releasing of energy to the universe, the whole thing should reach a crescendo and release at the same time. Quoting: Ty_ You can see this sort of building to a frenzy and suddenly stopping with a big crash and cease of music, etc. in other spiritual workings. Btw, totally the same principle behind a heap of practices. Intriguing. I would like to learn more on this subject, but I’m fading fast.....zzzzzzz..... . Pick any spiritual path and find where they are praying, chanting, dancing, drumming, rocking back n forth, sexing, etc. You'll find similarities. Coz reasons, probably. Elea tel'Taur GDMD |
Zovalex
User ID: 80278243 09/16/2021 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now that I’ve slept and my Mind is more clear, let me revisit this: It's always about vibration. Build up and release. The cosmos 'speaks' through vibration and frequency. Words are vibration as well but sometimes they are a poor substitute for movement and thought. Quoting: Green Witch The basic principles are to build energy and release it. The sexual act being the method by which power is raised. Then when you have your 'happy ending' and you've set your intention, you've released that energy back into the universe. Quoting: Green Witch ....utilizing primal masculine and feminine energies unified toward a shared goal. That goal will of course be what each party is focusing their intent and will upon, Quoting: Ty_ As with any raising and releasing of energy to the universe, the whole thing should reach a crescendo and release at the same time. You can see this sort of building to a frenzy and suddenly stopping with a big crash and cease of music, etc. in other spiritual workings.. I see the theme here. Interesting. Qigong masters speak of the same: Gathering Qi/chi and releasing it for various purposes. I’ve read of witches forming a “cone of power”, raising energy and directing it to an end point. As pointed out, this process of setting an intention, raising energy to a high point, directing that energy to the intention, then releasing that energy/intention can be accomplished through a variety of methods and practices. Now that this is more clear to me, I can also see where important parts/aspects to this process are missing from many peoples’ “practice”. I’ve pointed out previously that many who practice qigong/Tai Chi/Yoga are completely missing the point and merely going through the physical motions. I’ve seen this repeated in YT videos of so-called “witches” who talk of energy but obviously with no understanding. I can see the same with religious people merely blathering words of prayer and thinking this will have some magical effect. Clearly, this is a process with elements in a specific sequence, but many do not understand the process and are missing elements, the most important of which is the raising of energy. That said, can we discuss this “energy”? What is it? Are there different forms of energy? How is it raised and intensified? . . Last Edited by Zovalex on 09/16/2021 07:59 AM “Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery. It gives you the illusion of freedom, makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor, while making an enemy of those who are trying to free you or open your eyes.” -Fiyah “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe “You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.” -SOL |
Ty_
Veneficus Vita User ID: 80724039 Australia 09/16/2021 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now that I’ve slept and my Mind is more clear, let me revisit this: Quoting: Zovalex It's always about vibration. Build up and release. The cosmos 'speaks' through vibration and frequency. Words are vibration as well but sometimes they are a poor substitute for movement and thought. Quoting: Green Witch The basic principles are to build energy and release it. The sexual act being the method by which power is raised. Then when you have your 'happy ending' and you've set your intention, you've released that energy back into the universe. Quoting: Green Witch ....utilizing primal masculine and feminine energies unified toward a shared goal. That goal will of course be what each party is focusing their intent and will upon, Quoting: Ty_ As with any raising and releasing of energy to the universe, the whole thing should reach a crescendo and release at the same time. You can see this sort of building to a frenzy and suddenly stopping with a big crash and cease of music, etc. in other spiritual workings.. I see the theme here. Interesting. Qigong masters speak of the same: Gathering Qi/chi and releasing it for various purposes. I’ve read of witches forming a “cone of power”, raising energy and directing it to an end point. As pointed out, this process of setting an intention, raising energy to a high point, directing that energy to the intention, then releasing that energy/intention can be accomplished through a variety of methods and practices. Now that this is more clear to me, I can also see where important parts/aspects to this process are missing from many peoples’ “practice”. I’ve pointed out previously that many who practice qigong/Tai Chi/Yoga are completely missing the point and merely going through the physical motions. I’ve seen this repeated in YT videos of so-called “witches” who talk of energy but obviously with no understanding. I can see the same with religious people merely blathering words of prayer and thinking this will have some magical effect. Clearly, this is a process with elements in a specific sequence, but many do not understand the process and are missing elements, the most important of which is the raising of energy. That said, can we discuss this “energy”? What is it? Are there different forms of energy? How is it raised and intensified? . . Just about to jump off the PC, but very quickly. I've mentioned emotion being key, matching your frequency to the energy you're looking to work with. Any songs you listen to that make you feel a certain way? Moments in your past that really stir up a strong emotion? Ponder that in regards to your questions, more on this tomorrow after coffee. :) I've explained all this a lot here and there, but you're getting the context and where it sits as a core to many practices. So yeah, tomorrow some more. Coz reasons, probably. Elea tel'Taur GDMD |
Green Witch
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Zovalex
User ID: 80274554 United States 09/16/2021 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've mentioned emotion being key, matching your frequency to the energy you're looking to work with. Quoting: Ty_ Any songs you listen to that make you feel a certain way? Moments in your past that really stir up a strong emotion? Would you mind expanding on this and we can go from there? . “Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery. It gives you the illusion of freedom, makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor, while making an enemy of those who are trying to free you or open your eyes.” -Fiyah “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe “You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.” -SOL |
Zovalex
User ID: 80274554 United States 09/16/2021 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Alright, you two.... serious question... Quoting: Zovalex I’ve done a fair amount of study of qigong. From what little I have learned of REAL witchcraft, it seems to me the Craft also involves learning to command and control chi energy. Despite trying a variety of search engine keywords, I find surprisingly little connection between the two. But it seems to me that for one to be successful in raising energy with the Craft, one would certainly benefit greatly in learning qigong. Blending qigong energy control techniques with the energy-raising methods used in witchcraft would be MY approach if I were to undertake learning the Craft. I would much appreciate both of your thoughts on this, please. . I haven't studied Qigong in detail, but from what I have read, it is the same energy we raise in the craft. It just goes by another name. I absolutely agree that learning a movement based martial art that focuses chi energy would be a great benefit. Such as Tai Chi. One of the things that has always frustrated me about those of us that teach in the Craft, is that we always talk about 'raising energy' but few actually go into detail about what that means in real practice. G-Dub? I haven’t forgotten about ^^ THIS ^^. . “Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery. It gives you the illusion of freedom, makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor, while making an enemy of those who are trying to free you or open your eyes.” -Fiyah “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe “You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.” -SOL |
Green Witch
(OP) Pythonissam Vita User ID: 80856853 United States 09/16/2021 10:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Alright, you two.... serious question... Quoting: Zovalex I’ve done a fair amount of study of qigong. From what little I have learned of REAL witchcraft, it seems to me the Craft also involves learning to command and control chi energy. Despite trying a variety of search engine keywords, I find surprisingly little connection between the two. But it seems to me that for one to be successful in raising energy with the Craft, one would certainly benefit greatly in learning qigong. Blending qigong energy control techniques with the energy-raising methods used in witchcraft would be MY approach if I were to undertake learning the Craft. I would much appreciate both of your thoughts on this, please. . I haven't studied Qigong in detail, but from what I have read, it is the same energy we raise in the craft. It just goes by another name. I absolutely agree that learning a movement based martial art that focuses chi energy would be a great benefit. Such as Tai Chi. One of the things that has always frustrated me about those of us that teach in the Craft, is that we always talk about 'raising energy' but few actually go into detail about what that means in real practice. G-Dub? I haven’t forgotten about ^^ THIS ^^. . A good book I just found talks about this very thing. It's called Magical Power For Beginners: How to Raise & Send Energy for Spells That Work by Debra Lipp “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
Ty_
Veneficus Vita User ID: 80724039 Australia 09/16/2021 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've mentioned emotion being key, matching your frequency to the energy you're looking to work with. Quoting: Ty_ Any songs you listen to that make you feel a certain way? Moments in your past that really stir up a strong emotion? Would you mind expanding on this and we can go from there? . How about your expand your mind and we'll return from here. :P Yeah I will at some point today. :) Coz reasons, probably. Elea tel'Taur GDMD |