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The Witch's Corner.

 
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Disclaimer: I am not responsible for what Z does with this information, I simply shared it.

Please don't wank us in to a new timeline Z :P

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All this talk of building intense feeling and energy, bringing it to a crescendo, and then releasing it in an explosion of ecstasy...

Sounds like one hell of a powerful orgasm that can cause a timeline shift to occur.

But no worries..... I’ll shift us all into a world in which the ladies can eat cheesecake and vanilla ice cream in bed all day and never gain a pound, and they’ll line up to pleasure the men.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Elf sits back in her chair. "So, you think you can get this
Elf to join the line and beg to 'pleasure the men'."
(Picking herself up after falling out of the chair from
laughing so hard, she dusts her self off and climbs back
onto the chair.)
Not in your lifetime, or your next lifetime.
 Quoting: Elfsong


lol hf



Is this you drawing your sword in defiance Elfsong? :P

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He who is a seeker of Truth,
Will not ever fail.
Even when he finds nothing there,
He has succeeded.
For if truthfully finds nothing,
Then Truth has been found.
So always he wins,
It matters not where he may tread.
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And Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh and before his servants, and it became a serpent.

But Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers;
so the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.

For every man threw down his rod, and they became serpents.
But Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods.

 Quoting: Joe Nemo



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It's frustrating because I know the questions are not coming from a place of actually wanting to know. These people have zero interest in learning and trying to expand their awareness.

The questions are designed to get me to admit that there are things I either can't answer, or that I simply have no answer for. That way, they can point to me and say, 'Haha look she doesn't know what she is talking about so she is a fake, a poser etc' and so on. The gotcha game makes them feel more secure.

You see, as a non Christian, I'm held to a completely different standard. You argue with a Christian and it almost always ends up with answers like, 'Well God's ways are not our ways', or 'we can't see the bigger picture', or 'God's ways are mysterious so you just have to take it on faith.'

The Christian can get away with that. People like me are never afforded that luxury. We have to have every answer in the bag ready to go.

It's almost as though, to these people, being a non christian obligates me to explain every reason why I am not. And every answer I don't get right just validates what they already believe.

But the truth is, no answer will ever be sufficient
 Quoting: Green Witch


Joe Nematode would do well to print/frame that post and it read it daily.

In last night’s theatrics, he perfectly exemplified your point - challenging you at every turn, yet when you finally cornered him for answers, he replied with curt one-word responses, then defended his absurd responses (while requiring YOU to further elaborate), and immediately ducked out of the thread.

Ty pegged him succinctly:

Too cowardly to speak their real opinion and be themselves openly.
 Quoting: Ty_




...I need more napkins. This egg is all over me.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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It's frustrating because I know the questions are not coming from a place of actually wanting to know. These people have zero interest in learning and trying to expand their awareness.

The questions are designed to get me to admit that there are things I either can't answer, or that I simply have no answer for. That way, they can point to me and say, 'Haha look she doesn't know what she is talking about so she is a fake, a poser etc' and so on. The gotcha game makes them feel more secure.

You see, as a non Christian, I'm held to a completely different standard. You argue with a Christian and it almost always ends up with answers like, 'Well God's ways are not our ways', or 'we can't see the bigger picture', or 'God's ways are mysterious so you just have to take it on faith.'

The Christian can get away with that. People like me are never afforded that luxury. We have to have every answer in the bag ready to go.

It's almost as though, to these people, being a non christian obligates me to explain every reason why I am not. And every answer I don't get right just validates what they already believe.

But the truth is, no answer will ever be sufficient
 Quoting: Green Witch


Joe Nematode would do well to print/frame that post and it read it daily.

In last night’s theatrics, he perfectly exemplified your point - challenging you at every turn, yet when you finally cornered him for answers, he replied with curt one-word responses, then defended his absurd responses (while requiring YOU to further elaborate), and immediately ducked out of the thread.

Ty pegged him succinctly:

Too cowardly to speak their real opinion and be themselves openly.
 Quoting: Ty_




...I need more napkins. This egg is all over me.

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Come here for your spanking ;p
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Elf sits back in her chair. "So, you think you can get this
Elf to join the line and beg to 'pleasure the men'."
(Picking herself up after falling out of the chair from
laughing so hard, she dusts her self off and climbs back
onto the chair.)
Not in your lifetime, or your next lifetime.
 Quoting: Elfsong


I’m confident that if you, G-Dub, Ty, and I were all in the same room vying to be the Dominant and forcing the other the to be the Passive, it would make for some very rough sex. chuckle

Cheesecake flying, thunderbolts cracking, hexes being shouted, arm-twisting, rope being thrown, the snapping sound of cuffs, double slit experiments being conducted, rug burns on the knees, fighting off the spreader bar, screaming and shrieking, .....

Witch-sex is a wild time! We’d all come out of it bruised and bleeding.

damned damned

.

Last Edited by Zovalex on 09/18/2021 11:28 AM
“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Come here for your spanking ;p
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Pfffft! See above.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Elf sits back in her chair. "So, you think you can get this
Elf to join the line and beg to 'pleasure the men'."
(Picking herself up after falling out of the chair from
laughing so hard, she dusts her self off and climbs back
onto the chair.)
Not in your lifetime, or your next lifetime.
 Quoting: Elfsong


I’m confident that if you, G-Dub, Ty, and I were all in the same room vying to be the Dominant and forcing the other the to be the Passive, it would make for some very rough sex. chuckle

Cheesecake flying, thunderbolts cracking, hexes being shouted, arm-twisting, rope being thrown, the snapping sound of cuffs, double slit experiments being conducted, rug burns on the knees, fighting off the spreader bar, screaming and shrieking, .....

Witch-sex is a wild time! We’d all come out of it bruised and bleeding.

damned damned

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


If you can't hurt the ones you love, who can you? Lol
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If you can't hurt the ones you love, who can you? Lol
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“I’m just showing you a little tough love, G-Dub! Now goddamnit, stop fighting me and put that foot in the spreader bar, bitch!” chuckle


Well, I have things to do now. Later!

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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chuckle
I walk through your dimension to get to school.
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There have been many references to “protection”.

Protection against what?

Why would one need “protection”?

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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It's frustrating because I know the questions are not coming from a place of actually wanting to know. These people have zero interest in learning and trying to expand their awareness.

The questions are designed to get me to admit that there are things I either can't answer, or that I simply have no answer for. That way, they can point to me and say, 'Haha look she doesn't know what she is talking about so she is a fake, a poser etc' and so on. The gotcha game makes them feel more secure.

You see, as a non Christian, I'm held to a completely different standard. You argue with a Christian and it almost always ends up with answers like, 'Well God's ways are not our ways', or 'we can't see the bigger picture', or 'God's ways are mysterious so you just have to take it on faith.'

The Christian can get away with that. People like me are never afforded that luxury. We have to have every answer in the bag ready to go.

It's almost as though, to these people, being a non christian obligates me to explain every reason why I am not. And every answer I don't get right just validates what they already believe.

But the truth is, no answer will ever be sufficient
 Quoting: Green Witch


Joe Nematode would do well to print/frame that post and it read it daily.

In last night’s theatrics, he perfectly exemplified your point - challenging you at every turn, yet when you finally cornered him for answers, he replied with curt one-word responses, then defended his absurd responses (while requiring YOU to further elaborate), and immediately ducked out of the thread.

Ty pegged him succinctly:

Too cowardly to speak their real opinion and be themselves openly.
 Quoting: Ty_




...I need more napkins. This egg is all over me.

.
 Quoting: Zovalex

Good evening.

I'm not these people those people. I'm just me as straight as can be.

I'm certainly not afraid to speak my real opinion and be myself openly...

I do not expect anyone to know everything about everything

nor do I have any problem with anyone, including myself, saying "I don't know" at any time.

I certainly have made no attempt to getcha gotcha GW.

I obviously ruffle feathers and ask uncomfortable questions that invariably lead to personal attacks

while the substantive questions that remain evaded and unanswered are the same fair questions you should be asking yourselves

in my opinion.
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There have been many references to “protection”.

Protection against what?

Why would one need “protection”?

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Insane witch orgies, perhaps?

Maybe I can wrap that question up in what is both a perfectly accurate yet intentionally vague answer:

Unwanted energy patterns.
He who is a seeker of Truth,
Will not ever fail.
Even when he finds nothing there,
He has succeeded.
For if truthfully finds nothing,
Then Truth has been found.
So always he wins,
It matters not where he may tread.
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In last night’s theatrics, he perfectly exemplified your point - challenging you at every turn, yet when you finally cornered him for answers, he replied with curt one-word responses, then defended his absurd responses (while requiring YOU to further elaborate), and immediately ducked out of the thread.

 Quoting: Zovalex

What theatrics?

Care to comment on the substance and/or relevance of either of these offerings perhaps?

You must have some thoughtful thoughts, no?


Just in case you might also somehow find this interesting and/or relevant...


The Theory That Could Rewrite the Laws of Physics


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Constructor theory

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Constructor theory is a proposal for a new mode of explanation in fundamental physics, first sketched out by David Deutsch, a quantum physicist at the University of Oxford, in 2012.[1][2] Constructor theory expresses physical laws exclusively in terms of what physical transformations, or tasks, are possible versus which are impossible, and why. By allowing such counterfactual statements into fundamental physics, it allows new physical laws to be expressed, for instance those of the constructor theory of information.

Overview

The fundamental elements of the theory are tasks, i.e., the abstract specifications of transformations in terms of input/output pairs of attributes. A task is impossible if there is a law of physics that forbids its being performed with arbitrarily high accuracy, and possible otherwise. When it is possible, then a constructor for it can be built, again with arbitrary accuracy and reliability. A constructor is an entity which can cause the task to occur while retaining the ability to cause it again. Examples of constructors include a heat engine (a thermodynamic constructor), a catalyst (a chemical constructor) or a computer program controlling an automated factory (an example of a programmable constructor).[3][4]

The theory was developed by physicists David Deutsch and Chiara Marletto.[4][5] It draws together ideas from diverse areas including thermodynamics, statistical mechanics, information theory and quantum computation.

Quantum mechanics and all other physical theories are claimed to be subsidiary theories, and quantum information becomes a special case of superinformation.[4]

Chiara Marletto's constructor theory of life builds on constructor theory.[
 Quoting: Joe Nemo


Craft? Energy? Vibrators vibrations..

Where did all the craftsmen go?

Check out these skills...



So Moses and Aaron went in to Pharaoh, and they did so, just as the LORD commanded.
And Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh and before his servants, and it became a serpent.

But Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers;
so the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.

For every man threw down his rod, and they became serpents.
But Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods.


Exodus 7:10-12
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Pharaoh then summoned wise men and sorcerers, and the Egyptian magicians also did the same things by their secret arts:

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Then Pharaoh summoned the wise men and the sorcerers, and they, the magicians of Egypt, also did the same by their secret arts.

NASB
Then Pharaoh also called for the wise men and the sorcerers, and they also, the magicians of Egypt, did the same with their secret arts.


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And even now after everything you've said, you still haven't answered my very simple question lol
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Good morning super friends!


He who is a seeker of Truth,
Will not ever fail.
Even when he finds nothing there,
He has succeeded.
For if truthfully finds nothing,
Then Truth has been found.
So always he wins,
It matters not where he may tread.
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Good morning super friends!


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Good morning lol
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The story of Aaron casting down his staff in front of Pharaoh is one of my favorite tales from the Bible. Not only is it a scene worthy of an action flick, it begs a question that I've never seen talked about.

Here you have Moses and Aaron standing before Pharaoh's court. Moses demands that Pharaoh release his people from bondage. Pharaoh basically tells Moses to get bent.

Now, Moses tells Aaron to cast his staff down before Pharaoh. Aaron does, and it becomes a serpent.

Now at this point, you would expect outright chaos and panic from the Egyptians. A freaking piece of wood literally turns into a deadly serpent right in front of their eyes. If I'm in a room and random shit starts turning into snakes, I'm noping myself right out of there.

But that isn't what happens. The Bible doesn't speak of panic, chaos, or people fleeing in terror.

Instead, it's a ho hum event. You made a snake. Whatever dude. Yawns in Egyptian.

Pharaoh is not impressed. He's like "Seriously? Bruh your magic game is weak. Get over here high priests and show this bearded loser what's up"

So the high priests come over and throw down their staffs and their staffs also turn into snakes which get promptly eaten by Aaron's snake/staff.

Again. No panic or wonder from the peanut gallery. This is just everyday life for Pharaoh and the high priests and apparently the people in Pharaoh's court.

Several questions come up for me at this point.

Why were the people and Pharaoh not shocked at these events?

How did the high priests know exactly what to do? Who taught them? How did they know it would work?

Is turning random objects into animals an everyday thing for the Egyptian priests? Apparently it is.

Now you can either say God put it into the priests minds, or the devil made them do it but the Bible does not say that. And if you say God did it, well that opens up an entirely new can of Egyptian worms.

The author of this story believed in magick. He wanted you to believe in it too. He wanted to demonstrate that greater magick (God's magick) is greater than lesser magick.

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If you interpret it all as metaphor, what could it mean?
What might a rod/staff represent? Perhaps authority? It usually does.

It would make sense for the ruler to gather together all these leaders and order them to throw down their personal authority in subjugation to him, or...

Perhaps it is describing them all throwing their 'hats in to the ring' and scrapping it out, spitting and hissing their thoughts and ideas to each other like serpents, only for one of them to come out on top?

There can be only one authority?

Essentially a case of "ok tards, lets hash this shit out - who's ideas can cause the others to get rekt".

Just some thoughts.

Edit: Actually it fits quite well if we assume that the rod/staff is a physical representation of each sect, cult, belief system, school of thought. As rod and ring, crown, etc. are representations of the monarchy as a whole.
You could say something similar regarding throwing down crowns and them becoming as beasts, during a meeting of rulers of kingdoms. *shrug*

Last Edited by Ty_ on 09/18/2021 09:49 PM
He who is a seeker of Truth,
Will not ever fail.
Even when he finds nothing there,
He has succeeded.
For if truthfully finds nothing,
Then Truth has been found.
So always he wins,
It matters not where he may tread.
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The story of Aaron casting down his staff
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If you interpret it all as metaphor, what could it mean?
What might a rod/staff represent? Perhaps authority? It usually does.

It would make sense for the ruler to gather together all these leaders and order them to throw down their personal authority in subjugation to him, or...

Perhaps it is describing them all throwing their 'hats in to the ring' and scrapping it out, spitting and hissing their thoughts and ideas to each other like serpents, only for one of them to come out on top?

There can be only one authority?

Essentially a case of "ok tards, lets hash this shit out - who's ideas can cause the others to get rekt".

Just some thoughts.

Edit: Actually it fits quite well if we assume that the rod/staff is a physical representation of each sect, cult, belief system, school of thought. As rod and ring, crown, etc. are representations of the monarchy as a whole.
You could say something similar regarding throwing down crowns and them becoming as beasts, during a meeting of rulers of kingdoms. *shrug*
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That's the problem. The Bible doesn't represent itself as allegory or metaphor. The authors who wrote the Bible took these stories as fact. You have to take the Bible as it's written. If you open it up to interpretation, then it's practically useless
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The story of Aaron casting down his staff
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If you interpret it all as metaphor, what could it mean?
What might a rod/staff represent? Perhaps authority? It usually does.

It would make sense for the ruler to gather together all these leaders and order them to throw down their personal authority in subjugation to him, or...

Perhaps it is describing them all throwing their 'hats in to the ring' and scrapping it out, spitting and hissing their thoughts and ideas to each other like serpents, only for one of them to come out on top?

There can be only one authority?

Essentially a case of "ok tards, lets hash this shit out - who's ideas can cause the others to get rekt".

Just some thoughts.

Edit: Actually it fits quite well if we assume that the rod/staff is a physical representation of each sect, cult, belief system, school of thought. As rod and ring, crown, etc. are representations of the monarchy as a whole.
You could say something similar regarding throwing down crowns and them becoming as beasts, during a meeting of rulers of kingdoms. *shrug*
 Quoting: Ty_


That's the problem. The Bible doesn't represent itself as allegory or metaphor. The authors who wrote the Bible took these stories as fact. You have to take the Bible as it's written. If you open it up to interpretation, then it's practically useless
 Quoting: Green Witch


Perhaps only for those without eyes to see, they who have a distorted perspective. (that distortion would be that everything is 100% fact as written with no metaphor or allegory).

Are you sure the actual authors took the stories as fact, or the readers down the track without the additional information/ability to see the meaning? (intentionally withheld or not, lost or hidden, etc.)

I know we can't be sure of that, we weren't there. Worth considering though.

I'm sure you know quite well that it wouldn't be the first book or document that has esoteric meaning throughout, or mixed in with facts.
He who is a seeker of Truth,
Will not ever fail.
Even when he finds nothing there,
He has succeeded.
For if truthfully finds nothing,
Then Truth has been found.
So always he wins,
It matters not where he may tread.
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The story of Aaron casting down his staff
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If you interpret it all as metaphor, what could it mean?
What might a rod/staff represent? Perhaps authority? It usually does.

It would make sense for the ruler to gather together all these leaders and order them to throw down their personal authority in subjugation to him, or...

Perhaps it is describing them all throwing their 'hats in to the ring' and scrapping it out, spitting and hissing their thoughts and ideas to each other like serpents, only for one of them to come out on top?

There can be only one authority?

Essentially a case of "ok tards, lets hash this shit out - who's ideas can cause the others to get rekt".

Just some thoughts.

Edit: Actually it fits quite well if we assume that the rod/staff is a physical representation of each sect, cult, belief system, school of thought. As rod and ring, crown, etc. are representations of the monarchy as a whole.
You could say something similar regarding throwing down crowns and them becoming as beasts, during a meeting of rulers of kingdoms. *shrug*
 Quoting: Ty_


That's the problem. The Bible doesn't represent itself as allegory or metaphor. The authors who wrote the Bible took these stories as fact. You have to take the Bible as it's written. If you open it up to interpretation, then it's practically useless
 Quoting: Green Witch


Perhaps only for those without eyes to see, they who have a distorted perspective. (that distortion would be that everything is 100% fact as written with no metaphor or allegory).

Are you sure the actual authors took the stories as fact, or the readers down the track without the additional information/ability to see the meaning? (intentionally withheld or not, lost or hidden, etc.)

I know we can't be sure of that, we weren't there. Worth considering though.

I'm sure you know quite well that it wouldn't be the first book or document that has esoteric meaning throughout, or mixed in with facts.
 Quoting: Ty_


Interesting thoughts. Could the Bible be speculative fiction?
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If you interpret it all as metaphor, what could it mean?
What might a rod/staff represent? Perhaps authority? It usually does.

It would make sense for the ruler to gather together all these leaders and order them to throw down their personal authority in subjugation to him, or...

Perhaps it is describing them all throwing their 'hats in to the ring' and scrapping it out, spitting and hissing their thoughts and ideas to each other like serpents, only for one of them to come out on top?

There can be only one authority?

Essentially a case of "ok tards, lets hash this shit out - who's ideas can cause the others to get rekt".

Just some thoughts.

Edit: Actually it fits quite well if we assume that the rod/staff is a physical representation of each sect, cult, belief system, school of thought. As rod and ring, crown, etc. are representations of the monarchy as a whole.
You could say something similar regarding throwing down crowns and them becoming as beasts, during a meeting of rulers of kingdoms. *shrug*
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That's the problem. The Bible doesn't represent itself as allegory or metaphor. The authors who wrote the Bible took these stories as fact. You have to take the Bible as it's written. If you open it up to interpretation, then it's practically useless
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Perhaps only for those without eyes to see, they who have a distorted perspective. (that distortion would be that everything is 100% fact as written with no metaphor or allegory).

Are you sure the actual authors took the stories as fact, or the readers down the track without the additional information/ability to see the meaning? (intentionally withheld or not, lost or hidden, etc.)

I know we can't be sure of that, we weren't there. Worth considering though.

I'm sure you know quite well that it wouldn't be the first book or document that has esoteric meaning throughout, or mixed in with facts.
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Interesting thoughts. Could the Bible be speculative fiction?
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I think it's similar to other mythologies, historical facts interwoven with ideals of a belief system, lessons, etc. Presented in such a way so as to be more easily absorbed by the masses. Actual people being real? Many of them yes, and noted historically elsewhere, all of them? all of the events exactly as written? Possibly not.

I could take this further and get in to the nitty gritty which will definitely attract some killers with the cross... perhaps not the time. I'm not very awake despite it being lunchtime. Moar covfefe!
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That's the problem. The Bible doesn't represent itself as allegory or metaphor. The authors who wrote the Bible took these stories as fact. You have to take the Bible as it's written. If you open it up to interpretation, then it's practically useless
 Quoting: Green Witch


Perhaps only for those without eyes to see, they who have a distorted perspective. (that distortion would be that everything is 100% fact as written with no metaphor or allegory).

Are you sure the actual authors took the stories as fact, or the readers down the track without the additional information/ability to see the meaning? (intentionally withheld or not, lost or hidden, etc.)

I know we can't be sure of that, we weren't there. Worth considering though.

I'm sure you know quite well that it wouldn't be the first book or document that has esoteric meaning throughout, or mixed in with facts.
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Interesting thoughts. Could the Bible be speculative fiction?
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I think it's similar to other mythologies, historical facts interwoven with ideals of a belief system, lessons, etc. Presented in such a way so as to be more easily absorbed by the masses. Actual people being real? Many of them yes, and noted historically elsewhere, all of them? all of the events exactly as written? Possibly not.

I could take this further and get in to the nitty gritty which will definitely attract some killers with the cross... perhaps not the time. I'm not very awake despite it being lunchtime. Moar covfefe!
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yeah me too. I don't really feel like fending off torches and pitchforks

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He has succeeded.
For if truthfully finds nothing,
Then Truth has been found.
So always he wins,
It matters not where he may tread.
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He who is a seeker of Truth,
Will not ever fail.
Even when he finds nothing there,
He has succeeded.
For if truthfully finds nothing,
Then Truth has been found.
So always he wins,
It matters not where he may tread.





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