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Green Witch  (OP)
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What th—??!

Almost 300 pages and NOW you tell me...?

Fuck it. Pass me a bottle of Don Julio.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Never tried that, ever had El Jimador?
 Quoting: Ty_


I just checked out their site. Sounds fantastic.

I very much enjoy sipping smooth tequila.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


I have enjoyed it in the past, I barely drink anymore but it was a tasty treat when I acquired it.

Regarding abilities that we all have, learning over lifetimes and then to put in to practice.
There are also those who choose not to practice, as well as other ways to learn too - but that's a topic not for here, or perhaps anywhere (yes vague, no not explaining lol).
 Quoting: Ty_


You are right that some choose not to walk a spiritual path and that is perfectly fine. All paths are valid.
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I’ve tried mescal.... not a fan. In fact, one tasted like gasoline.

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lol, some tequila is absolute trash and just tastes like burning.
Some is amazing in taste and smooooooooooth.
 Quoting: Ty_


Patron and Don Julio are big commercial brands, but decent quality and readily available in my area. I’d love to try other smaller, lesser known brands, but I’d have to travel .... and have a designated driver.

When I lived in SoCal, I visited many small mom-and-pop wineries that produced incredible wines, but they only made enough for friends, family, local restaurants, and limited sales to locals.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

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You are right that some choose not to walk a spiritual path and that is perfectly fine. All paths are valid.
 Quoting: Green Witch


I meant more about actively using abilities, not abstaining from spiritual paths.
We've discussed before the difference between being capable of doing, versus whether we should be doing.
That's closer to what I was saying.
Coz reasons, probably.
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All paths are valid.
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Yeeeaaaahhhh, I’m going to have to go ahead aaand kind of disagree with you there, mmm-kaaaay?

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Last Edited by Zovalex on 09/13/2021 12:43 AM
“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

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You are right that some choose not to walk a spiritual path and that is perfectly fine. All paths are valid.
 Quoting: Green Witch


I meant more about actively using abilities, not abstaining from spiritual paths.
We've discussed before the difference between being capable of doing, versus whether we should be doing.
That's closer to what I was saying.
 Quoting: Ty_


Do you believe healing someone of their ailments and disease violates the rules of free will?

Basically

If you could heal others , should you

And even then maybe teaching is better than healing
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I’ve tried mescal.... not a fan. In fact, one tasted like gasoline.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


lol, some tequila is absolute trash and just tastes like burning.
Some is amazing in taste and smooooooooooth.
 Quoting: Ty_


Patron and Don Julio are big commercial brands, but decent quality and readily available in my area. I’d love to try other smaller, lesser known brands, but I’d have to travel .... and have a designated driver.

When I lived in SoCal, I visited many small mom-and-pop wineries that produced incredible wines, but they only made enough for friends, family, local restaurants, and limited sales to locals.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Ah righto. Often the case with the small guys, making great stuff never intending to go big. These small/micro businesses need protecting - far too many legit little guys are being destroyed. Especially now. The uniqueness that many individuals creating stuff is something that needs to be preserved. Who wants a grey world of all same? Recognize similarities and work with each other, not identify differences and battle.

Sorry, bit of a tangent, but it's the same thing that's being stepped on and has been for centuries.
Coz reasons, probably.
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You are right that some choose not to walk a spiritual path and that is perfectly fine. All paths are valid.
 Quoting: Green Witch


I meant more about actively using abilities, not abstaining from spiritual paths.
We've discussed before the difference between being capable of doing, versus whether we should be doing.
That's closer to what I was saying.
 Quoting: Ty_


Do you believe healing someone of their ailments and disease violates the rules of free will?

Basically

If you could heal others , should you

And even then maybe teaching is better than healing
 Quoting: Seekingtruthandhonor


The person with the ailment should be informed of their ailment, consulted and be willing to accept treatment.

It's especially important when you consider misdiagnosis or assumed ailment. Some will point at another and claim say, they're spiritually sick, but this is from a perspective where they believe only their path is not sick.

There are cases to consider where the person is a threat to those around them, but it's case by case and again, must be accurate in diagnosis. Distortion of perspective is a big problem.
Coz reasons, probably.
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I’ve tried mescal.... not a fan. In fact, one tasted like gasoline.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


lol, some tequila is absolute trash and just tastes like burning.
Some is amazing in taste and smooooooooooth.
 Quoting: Ty_


Patron and Don Julio are big commercial brands, but decent quality and readily available in my area. I’d love to try other smaller, lesser known brands, but I’d have to travel .... and have a designated driver.

When I lived in SoCal, I visited many small mom-and-pop wineries that produced incredible wines, but they only made enough for friends, family, local restaurants, and limited sales to locals.

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


Ah righto. Often the case with the small guys, making great stuff never intending to go big. These small/micro businesses need protecting - far too many legit little guys are being destroyed. Especially now. The uniqueness that many individuals creating stuff is something that needs to be preserved. Who wants a grey world of all same? Recognize similarities and work with each other, not identify differences and battle.

Sorry, bit of a tangent, but it's the same thing that's being stepped on and has been for centuries.
 Quoting: Ty_


Fortunately, there are some good craft beers made right here in town that are complete unknowns to anyone outside of this area.

...and yes, they’re fragile and delicate businesses that need support, so I frequent them often.

Wait.... that makes me sound like a lush!

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

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I didn’t mean doctor healing

I meant like .

Someone has a disease and you put your hand on them and they heal

Or maybe not even your hand

You just pray and they are healed

Does this violate free will ?
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a lush!

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A... lush...? Does not compute.

Go drink an IPA.
Coz reasons, probably.
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I didn’t mean doctor healing

I meant like .

Someone has a disease and you put your hand on them and they heal

Or maybe not even your hand

You just pray and they are healed

Does this violate free will ?
 Quoting: Seekingtruthandhonor


I find it amusing that a local bible thumper is questioning Jesus’ countless healings and now consulting with Witches for actual truth. chuckle

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

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a lush!

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A... lush...? Does not compute.

Go drink an IPA.
 Quoting: Ty_


Blah! Can’t stand IPAs.

For the life of me, I can’t understand how they’ve become so popular.

By the way, a “lush” is slang for alcoholic.
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Last Edited by Zovalex on 09/13/2021 01:08 AM
“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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I didn’t mean doctor healing

I meant like .

Someone has a disease and you put your hand on them and they heal

Or maybe not even your hand

You just pray and they are healed

Does this violate free will ?
 Quoting: Seekingtruthandhonor


Technically yes, as you'd be affecting their life without them having a choice.
Informed consent is important.

Imagine someone was ready to pass on, had achieved everything they wanted to in life, had a disease and were content to die from that.
Then you come along and heal them.

So it's case by case. :)

Personally; I'd like a particular physical ailment of mine healed, but I'd like to know details of how and what to expect afterward, etc.

Manufacturing consent is also rife in certain areas nowadays, that's a shit thing to do.
Coz reasons, probably.
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a lush!

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A... lush...? Does not compute.

Go drink an IPA.
 Quoting: Ty_


Blah! Can’t stand IPAs.

For the life of me, I can’t understand how they’ve become so popular.

By the way, a “lush” is slang for alcoholic.
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Haha. Imo, IPA became a buzzword and cool drink for hipster types. Showing how 'cultured' they are, or, maybe just showing their culture.
I can take 'em or leave 'em.

Ahhh ok. Derived from "slush", glass slushing around spilling it because drunk, or slushing in your belly? *shrug*
Yay word knowledge. Thanks.
Coz reasons, probably.
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I just saw an advertisement for Guinness nitro cold brew coffee alcohol

I want that.
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What happened to our Host...?

Did she sack out just before her 300th page anniversary..?

Then again, she IS on vacation and needs her beauty sleep....

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

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I just saw an advertisement for Guinness nitro cold brew coffee alcohol

I want that.
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O'Neill, two L's.
Sounds strange... but I won't harp on about it.
Coz reasons, probably.
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a lush!

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 Quoting: Zovalex


A... lush...? Does not compute.

Go drink an IPA.
 Quoting: Ty_


Blah! Can’t stand IPAs.

For the life of me, I can’t understand how they’ve become so popular.

By the way, a “lush” is slang for alcoholic.
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 Quoting: Zovalex


Haha. Imo, IPA became a buzzword and cool drink for hipster types. Showing how 'cultured' they are, or, maybe just showing their culture.
I can take 'em or leave 'em.

Ahhh ok. Derived from "slush", glass slushing around spilling it because drunk, or slushing in your belly? *shrug*
Yay word knowledge. Thanks.
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I think you’re absolutely right about IPAs and hipsters. Ironically, they view themselves as independent non-conformists, yet they’re all cartoon stereotypes of one another. You can spot them a block away.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

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What happened to our Host...?

Did she sack out just before her 300th page anniversary..?

Then again, she IS on vacation and needs her beauty sleep....

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I'm here lol just give me a few minutes
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First, I burned sage to clear the whole house of any lingering negative energy.
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I like taking some sage branches sometimes just to make the place smell nice and different for a few days,
and burning sometimes too... as it happens on the recommendation of a Lakota friend...
but why do you believe that burning sage clears away what lingering negative energy?

I begin by lighting a white candle dressed with herbs and oil for protection.
 Quoting: Green Witch

Why do you believe this protects you from what how?

I also coupled that with a little righteous anger thrown in for intensity.
 Quoting: Green Witch

What is righteous if there is no right and wrong, but only perspective?

I simply sit back at the end of a working and say in my mind, "For the good of all so mote it be" This takes the responsibility for the results off off of me and puts it in the hands of the universe.
 Quoting: Green Witch

Why do you specifically say "so mote it be"?

All this effort and concentration to send out all this energy to balance things according to your will but without responsibility for it?

To wrap it up, my friend made it out fine and the spell(s) worked.
 Quoting: Green Witch

Things went as you liked. The spells may or may not have had anything to do with it most likely.

Have you ever had any indication of having had any particularly apparently decisive influence in changing any unlikely outcomes to your favor?

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First, I burned sage to clear the whole house of any lingering negative energy.
 Quoting: Green Witch

I like taking some sage branches sometimes just to make the place smell nice and different for a few days,
and burning sometimes too... as it happens on the recommendation of a Lakota friend...
but why do you believe that burning sage clears away what lingering negative energy?

I begin by lighting a white candle dressed with herbs and oil for protection.
 Quoting: Green Witch

Why do you believe this protects you from what how?

I also coupled that with a little righteous anger thrown in for intensity.
 Quoting: Green Witch

What is righteous if there is no right and wrong, but only perspective?

I simply sit back at the end of a working and say in my mind, "For the good of all so mote it be" This takes the responsibility for the results off off of me and puts it in the hands of the universe.
 Quoting: Green Witch

Why do you specifically say "so mote it be"?

All this effort and concentration to send out all this energy to balance things according to your will but without responsibility for it?

To wrap it up, my friend made it out fine and the spell(s) worked.
 Quoting: Green Witch

Things went as you liked. The spells may or may not have had anything to do with it most likely.

Have you ever had any indication of having had any particularly apparently decisive influence in changing any unlikely outcomes to your favor?

.
 Quoting: Joe Nemo


....and to think I was about to sign off for the night!

Now I need to pour a drink and watch this.

These are very fair questions that deserve a reply. Puts G-Dub on the spot, but I’m confident she’ll thrust out that busty chest and take on the challenge!

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It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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*giggles from back of the class room*
Coz reasons, probably.
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First, I burned sage to clear the whole house of any lingering negative energy.
 Quoting: Green Witch

I like taking some sage branches sometimes just to make the place smell nice and different for a few days,
and burning sometimes too... as it happens on the recommendation of a Lakota friend...
but why do you believe that burning sage clears away what lingering negative energy?

I begin by lighting a white candle dressed with herbs and oil for protection.
 Quoting: Green Witch

Why do you believe this protects you from what how?

I also coupled that with a little righteous anger thrown in for intensity.
 Quoting: Green Witch

What is righteous if there is no right and wrong, but only perspective?

I simply sit back at the end of a working and say in my mind, "For the good of all so mote it be" This takes the responsibility for the results off off of me and puts it in the hands of the universe.
 Quoting: Green Witch

Why do you specifically say "so mote it be"?

All this effort and concentration to send out all this energy to balance things according to your will but without responsibility for it?

To wrap it up, my friend made it out fine and the spell(s) worked.
 Quoting: Green Witch

Things went as you liked. The spells may or may not have had anything to do with it most likely.

Have you ever had any indication of having had any particularly apparently decisive influence in changing any unlikely outcomes to your favor?

.
 Quoting: Joe Nemo


I swear you people wait until I'm about to go to bed to spring the tough questions on me lol

You asked why I believe sage clears away lingering negative energy.

First, everything in the universe vibrates at a specific energy or frequency. Burning sage is at a frequency that is the complete opposite of low vibration. Positive frequency displaces negative. That is the underlying process as I understand it. Your native American friend can probably explain much better than I can.

You asked why I believe a white candle protects me. Same principle as above. Not only do colored candles have specific frequencies, they are also a reinforcement tool. Meaning that they help me to mentally focus upon a desired outcome. The outcome in this case is protection from negative energy and negative influences. These are things that if you don't believe will work for you, then they never will.

I used the term righteous not in a religious sense, but in a sense of being justified in my actions. My actions being to rebalance an imbalance if that makes sense.

Saying, "so mote it be", is a witch thing. It is the equivalent of you saying, "amen". It ends the working and puts the responsibility of making it happen in the hands of the universal intelligence. It's not up to us to figure out the how. By putting it in the hands of the universe, you don't close off avenues or opportunities for things to manifest.

Say I want a new car. It's better for me to put that out to the universe and let it decide how to make it happen. If I say I want a new car but I want it to come in a very limited, specific way, that shuts down all other ways that car might come.

You say, "All this effort and concentration to send out all this energy to balance things according to your will but without responsibility for it?"

I take full responsibility for every magical act I do. I can't not take responsibility because everything I put out, comes back to me. The universe will always balance out the scales.

And finally, yes. I've had spells work and achieved outcomes that could have come no other way.
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*giggles from back of the class room*
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https://imgur.com/R7F3OQ0

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*giggles from back of the class room*
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https://imgur.com/R7F3OQ0

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AceAmused
Coz reasons, probably.
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I didn’t mean doctor healing

I meant like .

Someone has a disease and you put your hand on them and they heal

Or maybe not even your hand

You just pray and they are healed

Does this violate free will ?
 Quoting: Seekingtruthandhonor


Free will is paramount. I would never do a working for someone without their permission. Even if it meant saving their life.
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All paths are valid.
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Yeeeaaaahhhh, I’m going to have to go ahead aaand kind of disagree with you there, mmm-kaaaay?

https://imgur.com/a/49o2R98

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That is fine too ;)
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...and with that, I’m going to bed.



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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

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Re: The Witch's Corner
You are right that some choose not to walk a spiritual path and that is perfectly fine. All paths are valid.
 Quoting: Green Witch

What is "spiritual"?

The way of the jihadi path may be "valid" but, in the opinion of my perspective, it is not righteous.





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