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Zovalex

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I’m not saying you don’t get protection from God or you do, I’m just saying I don’t set intentions or anything like that I just focus my mind and give it to God and his strength sees me through

I feel the craft is real. I’m not a follower but It’s cool you are.

And not every one is as cool as you guys are in this thread
 Quoting: Seekingtruthandhonor


This is a completely separate question, distinct from your question of a “Luciferian vampire cult”.

I am in a position to answer a side of this question that GW is unable to. She was raised in the Craft, so although her familiarity with the christian Mindset is mostly accurate, she never “lived it”, just as you have never “lived” the Craft.

Whereas, I have lived the Mind of the christian. Even moreso than you. I took it much more serious than most because I have actively been seeking answers since childhood.

As to your ideations that you are under “god’s protection” and you therefore “have no need to set intentions”, let’s reword that to stark reality:

The christian is taught and brainwashed to have a slave Mind with a defeatist mentality. The christian is trained that s/he has no control of any kind over what occurs in one’s life. S/he will supplicate and grovel like a worm before the imagined deity and then leave all decision, all action, and any possible fulfillment in the hands of the deity.

Christian prays: “please, god, please please pleeeaase...”

Outcome: “Oh, well, whatever happens is god’s will.”

Recently, the forum all sent up prayers for a GLP member’s wife to recover and heal. I’m sure you assumed she was “protected” by all that prayer, but she died anyway. I watched the responses with keen observation.

<shrug> “Meh. I guess it was god’s will for her to die.”

But if she had lived, well that would have been “god’s will” too, and alleged “proof” that all those prayers worked.

It’s a completely defeatist Mindset... the Mind of a slave that begs and grovels as a filthy dirty little sinner with no control. All that occurs is the will of the deity that “works in mysterious ways”.

I’m absolutely correct about that. I know.... I lived it for many years.

Whereas, a person in the Craft takes control and responsibility for the outcome of something they intend to manifest.

While you naively believe the christian view is superior (as obviously reflected in your post), the reality is that it is an inferior approach. The advanced Mind realizes that what you call “god” (and personify with human characteristics) is in fact a creative energy force with intelligent consciousness that can be tapped into and “worked” to effect change and cause a specific, intended result to occur.

There is nothing “demonic” about it. That is a purely false, deceptive, Mind-controlling teaching designed to deprive you of your true power and ability, intended to keep you enslaved as a loosh energy “cow” to be milked.

The ability to learn how to access and use this life force creative energy intelligence requires a higher level of understanding well above the slavish christian mentality that believes all power and control rests solely in the hands of some god depicted in a book.

I am not simply disparaging your religious beliefs. I speak as a former slave of religion... a slave that worked at a higher level than you.

...and let’s be honest. YOU live in a bubble of “protection”. You do not hold down a job. You have no mortgage to pay. You are not responsible for utilities, insurance, taxes, maintenance and repairs, furnishings, appliances, food costs, dependents, educational costs, medical expenses, and the myriad of ancillary expenses involved in being self sufficient. You live under someone else’s roof, watching television and getting high. You are fully provided for and always have been. You are a man-child.

What do YOU know of taking control of your own life?

You are a kept slave with slave mentality, deluded into believing you are “free”.

If you come to this thread asking questions, do not ask questions with a false Mindset of superiority or advanced understanding. You have neither.
Come here seeking knowledge to expand your awareness and understanding, not to seek confirmation of your bias.

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Last Edited by Zovalex on 09/22/2021 01:42 PM
“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Where is your INTENTION, Witch? chuckle

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Oh it's here. I just left it outside by a dying bonfire and two empty Moscato bottles lol
 Quoting: Green Witch


As Elf looks up.. holding her overlarge goblet of Cabernet Sauvignon ...
"I'm still out here, enjoying the moon and wine. Besides keeping my toes warm"
working with Positive Thoughts will result in Positive Outcomes.
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Whereas, I have lived the Mind of the christian. Even moreso than you. I took it much more serious than most because I have actively been seeking answers since childhood.

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I take it much more seriously than most.

I have actively been seeking answers since childhood.

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...While you naively believe the christian view is superior (as obviously reflected in your post), the reality is that it is an inferior approach. The advanced Mind realizes that what you call “god” (and personify with human characteristics) is in fact a creative energy force with intelligent consciousness that can be tapped into and “worked” to effect change and cause a specific, intended result to occur.

There is nothing “demonic” about it. That is a purely false, deceptive, Mind-controlling teaching designed to deprive you of your true power and ability, intended to keep you enslaved as a loosh energy “cow” to be milked...

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Whereas, I have lived the Mind of the christian. Even moreso than you. I took it much more serious than most because I have actively been seeking answers since childhood.

 Quoting: Zovalex

I take it much more seriously than most.

I have actively been seeking answers since childhood.

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 Quoting: Joe Nemo


You do no such thing.

Like that imbecile “SeekingLiesAndDishonor”, you come here feigning sincerity and pretending to seek to expand your awareness and your Mind, when in fact the two of you are like piranhas... taking small bites to eventually tear down. You both come here to find “evidence” to justify your slavish mentality. You do not come to learn. Your purpose is to distract and demean the credibility of those here. You take GW’s kindness for weakness. You pollute her thread and laugh about it.

You’re nothing but a dog that shits in the house and is too stupid to feel shame.

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Last Edited by Zovalex on 09/22/2021 01:43 PM
“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Hey green witch

My bad for not replying to you the other day I had too many marijuana’s and passed out LOL.

You had mentioned there is a luciferian vampire cult.

So are these people who just dived into the esoteric and occult?

What are their intention ? Do they drain energy? Send mind attacks?

I just don’t know what a luciferian vampire cult is

It doesn’t sound good though

Thankfully I just let God protect me.

But I’m interested to hear how one of the craft might protect themselves from such people

I’m not saying you don’t get protection from God or you do, I’m just saying I don’t set intentions or anything like that I just focus my mind and give it to God and his strength sees me through

I feel the craft is real. I’m not a follower but It’s cool you are.

And not every one is as cool as you guys are in this thread

There’s some real meanies
 Quoting: Seekingtruthandhonor


Hey sorry guys I've had my hands full this morning. Im typing this from my phone.

There's a lot in your post I'd like to pick apart.

You asked about luciferian vampire cults. Yes they are a very real thing. Most are in some way or another affiliated with either the church of Satan or the temple of Set. Google that if you don't know what that is. Some are completely independent and do their own thing.

Just like Christianity has 9 gazillion different denominations, so does Satanism. It gets even more confusing when you differentiate between theistic and non theistic Satanism. There is a lot of overlap. Some believe in a literal satan and some don't. Some believe in Satan as not a literal figure but as a symbol of rebellion. The vampire groups fall somewhere in the middle. Some believe in the theistic and some the non theistic. Most of the ones I've encountered are of the non theistic variety. There is one group that has managed to combine ancient Egyptian magic with vampirism.

There are not as many vampire groups as there are other sects. You have the temple of the living vampire, the vampire church, the vampire temple, the order of set, ecclesia sancti lamie, and a few others.

As for in depth answers about the groups themselves, I really can't give you much. These groups are very secretive and they keep to themselves.

But what I can tell you that as a Christian, you don't want to mess with these guys. You aren't ready to hear what some of these guys are up to lol

I don't even mess with them. They don't practice the soft fluffy kind of magick that I do. These guys are hardcore. Piss them off and you are royally screwed. And they will come after you.

From what I can tell you, they practice blood ritual and high energy magick. Where as an actual vampire would drink blood, these guys "feed" on psychic energy. Emotional energy. Z would call them loosh eaters.

Where I understand duality and I stay in the middle to achieve power from balance of light and dark, these guys have gone completely to the far end of the dark side. Anger and fear and hate can be incredible sources of power but it comes at a high price.

As for protection. What can I tell you?

For someone like me who is in the Craft, I do protection magick for myself against such groups. And I approach these other groups with respect. Most of these groups just want to do their thing in peace and be left alone. leave them be. That is the best advice I can give you.

You live in a world of wolves, a world of wolves and sheep. Most people are sheep. If the sheep are lucky they get to go through their lives never seeing the wolves at the door. And luckily for them the sheep outnumber the wolves. But the wolves still exist. The sheep survive by not crossing the wolves path.

There are some wolves in this world that should just be left alone.

You say your God protects you. I say the same thing but I interpret God differently. Where you passively pray, I take action. Our God, yours and mine, gave us the tools we need to care for our own well-being.

It's not enough to sit back and ask. You may get help, but you are the one who has to see it through. The universe doesn't reward laziness or idleness.

It takes two to tango....

Nothing is given without something being asked for in return.

You have to live the life. Your Bible says it perfectly. Faith without works is dead.

I can claim to be a witch all day long but if I'm not living it, it's just words.

I am responsible for my life and my actions and my protection. I fulfill my part by trying to live my words.

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Where is your INTENTION, Witch? chuckle

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 Quoting: Zovalex


Oh it's here. I just left it outside by a dying bonfire and two empty Moscato bottles lol
 Quoting: Green Witch


As Elf looks up.. holding her overlarge goblet of Cabernet Sauvignon ...
"I'm still out here, enjoying the moon and wine. Besides keeping my toes warm"
 Quoting: Elfsong


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...and with that, I shall return your thread back to you and Ty.

I simply wanted to take a moment to thank both of you for your contributions. You have set energy into motion.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


And I personally thank you for your contributions, Z.

You, Ty, Elf, Glax and Pool are the lifeblood of this thread
 Quoting: Green Witch


If you build it, they will in.
 Quoting: Ty_


https://imgur.com/heWegMe

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Morning. I don't wanna... and yet, here I am. The coffee isn't working yet :(


Coz reasons, probably.
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Morning. I don't wanna... and yet, here I am. The coffee isn't working yet :(


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A blood reference. I'm impressed!
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Morning. I don't wanna... and yet, here I am. The coffee isn't working yet :(


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A blood reference. I'm impressed!
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Like I didn't play Blood when I was a youngun, pfft!
I know all the games.


You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door. There is a small mailbox here.

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Coz reasons, probably.
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...While you naively believe the christian view is superior (as obviously reflected in your post), the reality is that it is an inferior approach. The advanced Mind realizes that what you call “god” (and personify with human characteristics) is in fact a creative energy force with intelligent consciousness that can be tapped into and “worked” to effect change and cause a specific, intended result to occur.

There is nothing “demonic” about it. That is a purely false, deceptive, Mind-controlling teaching designed to deprive you of your true power and ability, intended to keep you enslaved as a loosh energy “cow” to be milked...

 Quoting: Zovalex


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 Quoting: Joe Nemo


Joe, Joe Joe.

The other day, I asked you why you were on my thread. You evaded my answer repeatedly when I asked you again. I found this amusing.

I found it amusing because I knew the answer already. Also, I knew the real answer. The one even you probably don't realize.

You gave a half assed answer on the other thread. Something about caring for our souls in eternity or some such thing.

I found this amusing as well because even though you may tell yourself that, it's bs and we both know it. I let that one go.

You and several others have come onto my thread, like Z said, to mock and discredit under a guise of wanting to know.

I know this and I accept it for what it is.

But I also know there is another reason why you are here. It's a reason that you don't see, but I do. It's also the reason that I have not banned you.

There is something here. Something with me, this thread and the posters here that sticks in your gut. You don't know why but it does. Something pushing you on. Something like a compulsion that you can't explain but you have to pick at. I see it in your words.

Some people feel anger and direct that towards me because it's easier than trying to confront the internal dialog that is trying to break free.

And yet they can't explain the anger. But they feel something is amiss. Some mock to cover up the fear they feel. Some feel the need to tear down and attack because that validates their existing belief.

But you. I hear more in your words. Part of you is questioning what you've been told and there is a struggle going on just underneath the surface.

I hear it in your words. You doubt.

You came here thinking you'd play games but I think the universe has other plans for you. In your own way, you've begun a quest for knowing.

There are no coincidences. You are here for a reason.

Of course you'll deny everything I've said and probably come back with a Bible verse or two. And that's ok. It's the standard defense mechanism.

But I'm a witch, Joe. You think I don't see things? :)

I want you to do something for me tonight if possible.

I want you to go outside and sit in the dark. No noises or distractions. Just sit and think about what I've told you. Put aside your preconceived ideas of what should be. Just sit, be still and listen. Don't try to force anything. Relax and breathe. When random thoughts come, just let them go. Light a candle if you wish.

The point of this, is to get you to stop thinking externally for a moment and turn inward. For you to hear that small voice in the dark.

As another Christian would tell you, God can't tell you his story until you shut up and stop trying to tell him yours.
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The christian is taught and brainwashed to have a slave Mind with a defeatist mentality. The christian is trained that s/he has no control of any kind over what occurs in one’s life. S/he will supplicate and grovel like a worm before the imagined deity and then leave all decision, all action, and any possible fulfillment in the hands of the deity.
 Quoting: Zovalex

I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

Philippians 4:13

It’s a completely defeatist Mindset... the Mind of a slave that begs and grovels as a filthy dirty little sinner with no control. All that occurs is the will of the deity that “works in mysterious ways”.
 Quoting: Zovalex

Then Jesus said to those J**s who believed Him, "If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed.
"And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

They answered Him, "We are Abraham's descendants, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How can You say, 'You will be made free'?"
Jesus answered them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin.
"And a slave does not abide in the house forever, but a son abides forever.
"Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed."


John 8:31-36
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Whereas, I have lived the Mind of the christian. Even moreso than you. I took it much more serious than most because I have actively been seeking answers since childhood.

 Quoting: Zovalex

I take it much more seriously than most.

I have actively been seeking answers since childhood.

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 Quoting: Joe Nemo


You do no such thing.
 Quoting: Zovalex

Yes, I do..

Like that imbecile “SeekingLiesAndDishonor”, you come here feigning sincerity and pretending to seek to expand your awareness and your Mind, when in fact the two of you are like piranhas... taking small bites to eventually tear down. You both come here to find “evidence” to justify your slavish mentality. You do not come to learn. Your purpose is to distract and demean the credibility of those here. You take GW’s kindness for weakness. You pollute her thread and laugh about it.

You’re nothing but a dog that shits in the house and is too stupid to feel shame.

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 Quoting: Zovalex

Blessed are you when men hate you,
And when they exclude you,
And revile you, and cast out your name as evil,
For the Son of Man's sake.

Rejoice in that day and leap for joy!
For indeed your reward is great in heaven,
For in like manner their fathers did to the prophets.



Luke 6:22,23
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Joe, Joe Joe.
The other day, I asked you why you were on my thread.
 Quoting: Green Witch

I am here to be me.

To read, think, write and encourage thought on this thread just like any other.

Why must there be some sinister plot?

What are you so afraid of?

Please show me my posts that have so alarmed you.

Show me that it is not just all about Jesus...

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But you. I hear more in your words. Part of you is questioning what you've been told and there is a struggle going on just underneath the surface.

I hear it in your words. You doubt.

 Quoting: Green Witch

No.

Try me.
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You came here thinking you'd play games but I think the universe has other plans for you. In your own way, you've begun a quest for knowing.
 Quoting: Green Witch

Not true.
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So predictable lol
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But you. I hear more in your words. Part of you is questioning what you've been told and there is a struggle going on just underneath the surface.

I hear it in your words. You doubt.

 Quoting: Green Witch

No.

Try me.
 Quoting: Joe Nemo


Will you do what I ask you, or are you going to throw random Bible verses at me?
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So predictable lol
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Your perspective of this ingrate is admirable, but misplaced. You mistakenly ascribe a characteristic that is not there. Perhaps when you have dealt with hundreds upon hundreds of these Mindless automatons with not ONE convert, you will stop wasting your time and energies pandering to them.

They’re cockroaches.

One does not feed cockroaches. They are to be eradicated.

A wise person I know once told me: “When someone shows you who they are.... believe them.”

In other words: stop bullshitting yourself that the person has some redeeming qualities that are deeply hidden and need time and coaxing to be brought to the surface. If people ever reach a place in their life in which they’re finally ready to learn, they’ll present themselves as students seeking to learn. They won’t hide it.


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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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So predictable lol
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Your perspective of this ingrate is admirable, but misplaced. You mistakenly ascribe a characteristic that is not there. Perhaps when you have dealt with hundreds upon hundreds of these Mindless automatons with not ONE convert, you will stop wasting your time and energies pandering to them.

They’re cockroaches.

One does not feed cockroaches. They are to be eradicated.

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 Quoting: Zovalex


I like to give the benefit of the doubt before I "brush the dust off and walk away". Even knowing the end result will probably be less favorable for me.

You're right in that some people are lost causes. But if in dealing with 100 lost causes, I can get that one person to open their eyes a little, then it's worth it.

If I treated it any differently I'd be as bad as them.
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But if in dealing with 100 lost causes, I can get that one person to open their eyes a little, then it's worth it.

If I treated it any differently I'd be as bad as them.
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How boring when there's 99 before that 1 though.
Coz reasons, probably.
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So predictable lol
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Your perspective of this ingrate is admirable, but misplaced. You mistakenly ascribe a characteristic that is not there. Perhaps when you have dealt with hundreds upon hundreds of these Mindless automatons with not ONE convert, you will stop wasting your time and energies pandering to them.

They’re cockroaches.

One does not feed cockroaches. They are to be eradicated.

A wise person I know once told me: “When someone shows you who they are.... believe them.”

In other words: stop bullshitting yourself that the person has some redeeming qualities that are deeply hidden and need time and coaxing to be brought to the surface. If people ever reach a place in their life in which they’re finally ready to learn, they’ll present themselves as students seeking to learn. They won’t hide it.


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 Quoting: Zovalex


I do believe that when the student is ready the teacher will appear. I don't go out of my way to push my beliefs onto others. I don't believe in 'converting people.

But I do believe the universe sometimes puts people in our path for reasons not easily understood
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But if in dealing with 100 lost causes, I can get that one person to open their eyes a little, then it's worth it.

If I treated it any differently I'd be as bad as them.
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How boring when there's 99 before that 1 though.
 Quoting: Ty_


That's part of it lol

The 99 are instructional lol
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But if in dealing with 100 lost causes, I can get that one person to open their eyes a little, then it's worth it.

If I treated it any differently I'd be as bad as them.
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How boring when there's 99 before that 1 though.
 Quoting: Ty_


That's part of it lol

The 99 are instructional lol
 Quoting: Green Witch


What about the next 99? :P
Coz reasons, probably.
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But if in dealing with 100 lost causes, I can get that one person to open their eyes a little, then it's worth it.

If I treated it any differently I'd be as bad as them.
 Quoting: Green Witch


How boring when there's 99 before that 1 though.
 Quoting: Ty_


That's part of it lol

The 99 are instructional lol
 Quoting: Green Witch


What about the next 99? :P
 Quoting: Ty_


Those are just pains in my ass lol
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How boring when there's 99 before that 1 though.
 Quoting: Ty_


That's part of it lol

The 99 are instructional lol
 Quoting: Green Witch


What about the next 99? :P
 Quoting: Ty_


Those are just pains in my ass lol
 Quoting: Green Witch


*looks around*
*glances at GW*
*sigh-smirk*
Coz reasons, probably.
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That's part of it lol

The 99 are instructional lol
 Quoting: Green Witch


What about the next 99? :P
 Quoting: Ty_


Those are just pains in my ass lol
 Quoting: Green Witch


*looks around*
*glances at GW*
*sigh-smirk*
 Quoting: Ty_


I get it ty. Jeez lol

99 problems but a witch ain't one

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