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Green Witch
(OP) Pythonissam Vita User ID: 80856853 United States 10/12/2021 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greetings Nagabonar, seen your post. Will read and reply likely tomorrow. Bit tired. Hope you're well. :) Good morning Ty :) Greetings Madam Green Witch, thank you for this thread, quit excellent to explore new horizon opennings of the mind. Wishing you well! Thank you “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
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(OP) Pythonissam Vita User ID: 80856853 United States 10/12/2021 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As long as the Rune Stones are not made of Bone or Shell, I can Quoting: Elfsong handle them. But let me try to pick up a set of runs that are carved out of bone or shell, and my senses go wacko. I love them if they are carved out of wood, quartz, crystals or even regular stones. of those, I can handle. Very interesting. Is it the fact that they contained life energy? Last Edited by Green Witch on 10/13/2021 10:18 AM “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
Green Witch
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Terrebonne
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Terrebonne
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Veneficus Vita User ID: 80724039 Australia 10/12/2021 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As long as the Rune Stones are not made of Bone or Shell, I can Quoting: Elfsong handle them. But let me try to pick up a set of runs that are carved out of bone or shell, and my senses go wacko. I love them if they are carved out of wood, quartz, crystals or even regular stones. of those, I can handle. Very interesting. Is is the fact that they contained life energy? That's what I thought as well. Interestingly bone is traditional in many forms of divination, as well as blood being used in the inking of runes and other magickal symbols. Coz reasons, probably. Elea tel'Taur GDMD |
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Veneficus Vita User ID: 80724039 Australia 10/12/2021 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://imgur.com/3AnMJSw Of particular interest to me, partly apparent in the description I included. It is also the Ash Tree, which some say is what Yggdrasil is, opposed to 'great oak'. That tree is of note due to the pairing of Ash and Elm, Ask and Embla, Adam and Eve. Some of you may recall my previous avatar having this symbol (and some other art). Of Ansuz and Woden, you can see how what Ansuz represents fits quite a lot with Woden, the wise, the wanderer, he who first learned and taught runes to Mankind, who wrote poetry and song, etc. Many people have come to associate Othala rune to Odin which is sort of incorrect. The obvious reason is the representation of the letter O, but other things have certainly affected that. Perhaps it is because of the Alpha and Omega relationship and that people forgot (or omitted) that Odin isn't actually the equivalent of the source creator. He is in fact (imo) a potential insert/modification by the church when approving texts and tales, etc. There are crossover works of art that have Jesus with a bird or two sitting on his shoulder. Interestingly the last 3 runes in the Elder Futhark are Ng-D-O, so when reading backward we get ODNg. Saying it with the correct sound reveals a similarity. Othala is in fact more directly representing homeland/hearth/divine inheritance (opposed to earned power)/Gift of Ing. I realise I threw a lot of stuff to ponder there, but that's the whole point; provoking thought and open discussion. :D Last Edited by Tý_ on 10/12/2021 10:52 PM Coz reasons, probably. Elea tel'Taur GDMD |
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(OP) Pythonissam Vita User ID: 72757043 United States 10/12/2021 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is Ansuz, from S2-S2; Seasons-Summer. Quoting: Ty_ https://imgur.com/3AnMJSw Of particular interest to me, partly apparent in the description I included. It is also the Ash Tree, which some say is what Yggdrasil is, opposed to 'great oak'. That tree is of note due to the pairing of Ash and Elm, Ask and Embla, Adam and Eve. Some of you may recall my previous avatar having this symbol (and some privately shared art). Of Ansuz and Woden, you can see how what Ansuz represents fits quite a lot with Woden, the wise, the wanderer, he who first learned and taught runes to Mankind, who wrote poetry and song, etc. Many people have come to associate Othala rune to Odin which is sort of incorrect. The obvious reason is the representation of the letter O, but other things have certainly affected that. Perhaps it is because of the Alpha and Omega relationship and that people forgot (or omitted) that Odin isn't actually the equivalent of the source creator. He is in fact (imo) a potential insert/modification by the church when approving texts and tales, etc. There are crossover works of art that have Jesus with a bird or two sitting on his shoulder. Interestingly the last 3 runes in the Elder Futhark are Ng-D-O, so when reading backward we get ODNg. Saying it with the correct sound reveals a similarity. Othala is in fact more directly representing homeland/hearth/divine inheritance (opposed to earned power)/Gift of Ing. I realise I threw a lot of stuff to ponder there, but that's the whole point; provoking thought and open discussion. :D Intriguing. I'm seeing links to my own tradition that I hadn't considered before. As well as kabballa and the tree of life. I seriously need to do some more reading “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
Green Witch
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Veneficus Vita User ID: 80724039 Australia 10/12/2021 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Intriguing. I'm seeing links to my own tradition that I hadn't considered before. As well as kabballa and the tree of life. Quoting: Green Witch I seriously need to do some more reading Yup. There is overlap in many areas. Remember that so much came from roots such as Proto-Indo-European, even as far back as Animism. Pffft I'm cool no matter what. Quoting: Green Witch Sigh. Probably the most uncool thing I've ever said. I was being punny! Coz winter set and cool and... Time for more coffee :) Lol Did u see the books I posted? I did :D Remember to retain the useful and discard the superfluous, as always. The truth of things is shrouded in cultural specifics and those seeking to big note themselves. The common ground, the similarities and the sameness is where truths are found. Please, if and when you find such things; post them! The information of humanity spread across time and space is somewhat vast... help :D Coz reasons, probably. Elea tel'Taur GDMD |
Green Witch
(OP) Pythonissam Vita User ID: 80856853 United States 10/12/2021 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Intriguing. I'm seeing links to my own tradition that I hadn't considered before. As well as kabballa and the tree of life. Quoting: Green Witch I seriously need to do some more reading Yup. There is overlap in many areas. Remember that so much came from roots such as Proto-Indo-European, even as far back as Animism. Pffft I'm cool no matter what. Quoting: Green Witch Sigh. Probably the most uncool thing I've ever said. I was being punny! Coz winter set and cool and... Time for more coffee :) Lol Did u see the books I posted? I did :D Remember to retain the useful and discard the superfluous, as always. The truth of things is shrouded in cultural specifics and those seeking to big note themselves. The common ground, the similarities and the sameness is where truths are found. Please, if and when you find such things; post them! The information of humanity spread across time and space is somewhat vast... help :D I will. Runes were just something that has never been a part of my practice or tradition so this is all a learning experience for me :) I'll be the padawan lol Last Edited by Green Witch on 10/12/2021 11:02 PM “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
Ty_
Veneficus Vita User ID: 80724039 Australia 10/12/2021 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will. Quoting: Green Witch Runes were just something that has never been a part of my practice or tradition so this is all a learning experience for me :) I'll be the padawan lol It goes both ways, real teachers are students for life and learn from those they teach. The tree of life & Yggdrasil (the world tree), very similar. You mentioned 9 branches and I mentioned the world tree in response, well that is because of the 9 realms/worlds. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] "Yggdrasill, Old Norse Mimameidr, in Norse mythology, the world tree, a giant ash supporting the universe. One of its roots extended into Niflheim, the underworld; another into Jötunheim, land of the giants; and the third into Asgard, home of the gods." - Britannica Now getting a bit scientific on the whole thing, I've tinkered with a 3dimensional golden ratio. Three of the same spiral pattern in 3 different directions as 'the universe'. A 2 dimensional version of this is the symbol of a certain browser icon with a blue dot at the middle. Also consider the idea that the tree as the universe is a holographic fractal, ever expanding. This is an excellent explanation why Odin has been said to have stated, regarding the top of it: 'no man can ever reach'. All that said, there is also Alfheim, which sits higher than Asgard. I have related Alf AEther, Alfather, Our Father to this. It is a place of 'The Elves', which when you follow this information you find are very much like Angels. For the record, it was Freyr - the male of the divine twins who was given Alfheim as a tooth gift. Children of Njord, which is also the line of Mannaz, progenitor - so say the stories - of Mankind. Son of Man ;) We'll get to that rune in a few weeks lol. Coz reasons, probably. Elea tel'Taur GDMD |
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(OP) Pythonissam Vita User ID: 80856853 United States 10/12/2021 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will. Quoting: Green Witch Runes were just something that has never been a part of my practice or tradition so this is all a learning experience for me :) I'll be the padawan lol It goes both ways, real teachers are students for life and learn from those they teach. The tree of life & Yggdrasil (the world tree), very similar. You mentioned 9 branches and I mentioned the world tree in response, well that is because of the 9 realms/worlds. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] "Yggdrasill, Old Norse Mimameidr, in Norse mythology, the world tree, a giant ash supporting the universe. One of its roots extended into Niflheim, the underworld; another into Jötunheim, land of the giants; and the third into Asgard, home of the gods." - Britannica Now getting a bit scientific on the whole thing, I've tinkered with a 3dimensional golden ratio. Three of the same spiral pattern in 3 different directions as 'the universe'. A 2 dimensional version of this is the symbol of a certain browser icon with a blue dot at the middle. Also consider the idea that the tree as the universe is a holographic fractal, ever expanding. This is an excellent explanation why Odin has been said to have stated, regarding the top of it: 'no man can ever reach'. All that said, there is also Alfheim, which sits higher than Asgard. I have related Alf AEther, Alfather, Our Father to this. It is a place of 'The Elves', which when you follow this information you find are very much like Angels. For the record, it was Freyr - the male of the divine twins who was given Alfheim as a tooth gift. Children of Njord, which is also the line of Mannaz, progenitor - so say the stories - of Mankind. Son of Man ;) We'll get to that rune in a few weeks lol. I can't wait :D “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
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User ID: 50432173 United States 10/13/2021 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As long as the Rune Stones are not made of Bone or Shell, I can Quoting: Elfsong handle them. But let me try to pick up a set of runs that are carved out of bone or shell, and my senses go wacko. I love them if they are carved out of wood, quartz, crystals or even regular stones. of those, I can handle. Very interesting. Is is the fact that they contained life energy? That may be... never really explored the reason. Just trusted my senses and did not touch. but it that is so, why can I handle wood? in fact, I love my cedar runes.. working with Positive Thoughts will result in Positive Outcomes. |
Green Witch
(OP) Pythonissam Vita User ID: 72757043 United States 10/13/2021 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As long as the Rune Stones are not made of Bone or Shell, I can Quoting: Elfsong handle them. But let me try to pick up a set of runs that are carved out of bone or shell, and my senses go wacko. I love them if they are carved out of wood, quartz, crystals or even regular stones. of those, I can handle. Very interesting. Is is the fact that they contained life energy? That may be... never really explored the reason. Just trusted my senses and did not touch. but it that is so, why can I handle wood? in fact, I love my cedar runes.. Different energies perhaps? I have many wood and natural material items. Each one has a different feel “Secure the shadow, ere the substance fades.” |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78699487 United States 10/13/2021 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Ty_ (just edited post and changed to a different link from imgur, dunno why it's different or how, but it scaled it less shitly. So I'll use that version of link in future) :) There's some obvious logical relationships with Fehu, as well as the less obvious. (As said, there's a lot more info than I can represent in these card forms where the art is important to me). Firstly; Wealth, money, food, personal power, social success, energy, control and controlled power all relating to Cattle. Checks out. It's worth considering cattle as people, the herd, etc. This becomes more relevant in the juxtaposition of the next rune Uruz. Tamed/Controlled power of Cattle, versus Wild/Uncontrolled strength of the Auroch. As I said a long time ago, runes are something I just haven't gone into deeply so this is relatively new territory for me. So as a beginner, where would I start? This is a good one to learn from [link to www.pdfdrive.com (secure)] He also has a book called the 9 doors of midgard which is a workbook. It teaches galdring and how to work through the 9 gates that lead to the 9 worlds of ygdrasil. Also the book Urhark: the night side of the runes. Is another very good one. Thar author starts with the uruz rune as the starting place by recognizing that it is the primordial rune mother from which all others stem. And he explains that the traditional rune set up starting with Fehu is the exoteric version where uruz begins the inner standings of it instead. It's an interesting take on it for sure. I've read this! Many years ago now. Thanks for the link, I shall read again :) I will say this concerning books on runes; as with a LOT of things in our current time there are those who over analyze or over explain, trying to seem more complicated and in the know than is necessary - even to the point of adding a load of wank. So, as I always have, utilize multiple sources, discard the superfluous and retain what resonates well. Concerning 'starting' with the runes, don't rush in blindly accepting what one source states (even me!), and 'spend time' with the runes. By that I mean, ponder, meditate and otherwise work with the ideas and energies represented by each. One concept - which is sort of what we're doing here with my daily post of a card - is to meditate and explore upon a different rune each day. I was about to link a website with excellent information, however after just on 20 years being up, it appears to now be down. The wayback machine has it stored in archive and I've saved a copy of a particular page. Of note is: "Galdr or Galdor, from the Old Norse, originally meant 'incantation'. The verb "gala" is also used for "to crow". It later came to mean magic in general. These are the sounds used in runic oral spells. The Galdr sounds are from Edred Thorsson's Futhark, a Handbook of Rune Magic." Here's a song you might find useful in short meditative sessions when working with Uruz. [link to youtu.be (secure)] Wardruna are great for this :) Beautifully said, thank you! And you bring up a good reason to avoid sticking to one particular school of thought. That is something I'm having to train my brain to work with. 20 plus years of RC indoctrination and it tends to build attachments to tools and rituals, sometime s those things cause more disruption than aid for me. I still like all the bells and whistles. It's all fine tuning and failing forward lol |
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