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Is the CDC Intentionally fudging the numbers? American Thinker believes they are…

 
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Many here have suggested that the VAERS database is woefully inaccurate for a couple of good reasons. Primarily that only a small fraction of vaccine deaths and injuries are ever really reported there for a variety of reasons. One of the main reasons being the threats to anyone posting there with what the CDC might decide to be false information (even if it’s not).

That cloud is bad enough if we hope to have a transparent system, but when the CDC itself starts cooking the books to suit an agenda, it’s criminal.

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What is the true number of vaccine-related deaths?
By Antonio R. Chaves

Based on official data from Open VAERS and the CDC, 5,993 Americans have died out of 146,171,792 Americans who are fully vaccinated as of June 11. This corresponds to a ratio of about four deaths out of 100,000 who are fully vaccinated.

When VAERS death rates are compared with COVID-19 vaccination rates from December to June, an odd pattern emerges: Vaccine-related deaths decline just as vaccination rates reach their peak in April (Graph 1). This implies that the VAERS death rate started at 18 per 100,000 on the 1st of February, then dropped to around 3.1 per 100,000 on the 1st of June (Table). If this remarkable trend really took place, why didn’t it make headlines?…

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Thread: CDC REMOVES 150 thousand DEATHS FROM VAERS covid VACCINE REACTION REPORTING SYSTEM
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I'd say the real death toll is at least in the tens of thousands, for now...
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I wonder if there will ever be an outcry from the sheep to get accurate procedures in place to count the true deaths.

It appears they are doing everything in their power to suppress the counts. Even adverse reactions are not being counted correctly.
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ALERT!

Is there any statistics posted pertaining to those who got the 'placebo' and their reaction, versus those that rec'd the shot?

To me that would be a good indicator as to the effectiveness of the vaccine, whether good or bad.
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Steve Kirsch says it's over 25,000 deaths.



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The entire American government is corrupted from the top down. America is the joke of the world and the (((media))) owns you all. Neighbours don't trust any neighbour. Everything is racist. The color people are taking over. Looks like American future is like South Africa.
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Steve Kirsch says it's over 25,000 deaths.



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Sounds about right.
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RHorse

I wonder if there will ever be an outcry from the sheep to get accurate procedures in place to count the true deaths.

It appears they are doing everything in their power to suppress the counts. Even adverse reactions are not being counted correctly.
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A sheep could have everyone they know drop dead after taking the vaccine, and they’d still say vaccine deaths are “misinformation/conspiracy theories’
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Isn't Vaers a voluntary reporting system?
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I will not take the vaccine and know the CDC is far from honest but on the deaths related to taking the vaccine I know of no one who has actually died and only a handful who have had any adverse health problems from taking it, none of which required hospitalization.

Does anyone reading this know someone who has peronally died or had to have been hospitalized?
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So, if the true VAERS death count is 18 to 21 per 100,000, we know that over 300 million doses have been administered (136 million fully vaccinated), and approximately 1% to 5% of all vaccine injuries or deaths are even reported here as many believe - the death count alone could well come close to exceeding the (supposed) death count from the disease itself in pretty short order.

Per the Author, the true total death count is in the neighborhood of 25,000 when we add the nonclassified deaths to the total “verified” per VAERS. If we assume 5% as our basis for reporting, this implies a possible true related death count of 120k to 500k. That said, I do believe that more are reporting adverse issues here than before, but even 6000 deaths is a staggering number to behold while the cause of same is still being widely distributed and heavily promoted.

This in itself should tell you that something is seriously wrong here, and you may want to think twice or thrice before putting this shit in your body. For more reasons than one.
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Consistent with what the article infers. Thanks!
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Steve Kirsch says it's over 25,000 deaths.



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Sounds about right.
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Another link. Pretty decent presentation (a bit long though).
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The flu was added to COVID deaths. No one knows what the real numbers are. They make this shit up as they go.
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RHorse

I wonder if there will ever be an outcry from the sheep to get accurate procedures in place to count the true deaths.

It appears they are doing everything in their power to suppress the counts. Even adverse reactions are not being counted correctly.
 Quoting: TheFool


I have to say that our “overlords” have done a better brainwashing job than I ever thought possible. I am amazed daily over some of the folks I personally know (and respected) fully accepting the narrative without question - even after years of proven lies coming out of the mouths of those promoting this BS. Some even acknowledge the lies of the past, but the vaccine is safe! Must wear my mask!

I don’t talk with them too much anymore, and really don’t know what it will take other than they themselves or a close family member succumbing to the vax. And even then, I’m not sure.
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The flu was added to COVID deaths. No one knows what the real numbers are. They make this shit up as they go.
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looking at the raw covid deaths "only".... the vaccine is more deadly than "covid" itself....

Thread: UPDATED 4863 Deaths! Per VAERS DATA on CDC web. Another 200 since last week!! (Page 5)
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The flu was added to COVID deaths. No one knows what the real numbers are. They make this shit up as they go.
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Agreed
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ALERT!

Is there any statistics posted pertaining to those who got the 'placebo' and their reaction, versus those that rec'd the shot?

To me that would be a good indicator as to the effectiveness of the vaccine, whether good or bad.
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Not sure about that, but given that we are still in the trial stage of all EUA vaccines, I am pretty confident that a fairly significant number of those getting “vax’d” are receiving a placebo. This may be why many have no adverse side effect at all after the fact.
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SATAN IS THE MASTER LIAR

THE CDC IS A LIAR

THE FDA IS A LIAR

THE FBI IS A LIAR

THE NSA IS A LIAR

THE WHO IS A LIAR

OBAMA NEVER TOLD THE TRUTH

BIDEN ALWAYS LIES

WHO IS WORSHIPING WHO

THEY ALL WORSHIP SATAN



HOWEVER IN JESUS CHRIST

THERE IS

THE TRUTH

AND

THE TRUTH

IS JESUS CHRIST

WHO WILL SET YOU FREE FROM THE LIARS
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ALERT!

Is there any statistics posted pertaining to those who got the 'placebo' and their reaction, versus those that rec'd the shot?

To me that would be a good indicator as to the effectiveness of the vaccine, whether good or bad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80507421


Not sure about that, but given that we are still in the trial stage of all EUA vaccines, I am pretty confident that a fairly significant number of those getting “vax’d” are receiving a placebo. This may be why many have no adverse side effect at all after the fact.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


legal definition of a "vaccine" must provide immunity.

does this "experimental" cocktail provide immunity?

We need to quit calling it a "vax"
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Steve Kirsch says it's over 25,000 deaths.



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Sounds about right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78214364


Another link. Pretty decent presentation (a bit long though).
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Thank you. I'll check it out.
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SATAN IS THE MASTER LIAR

THE CDC IS A LIAR

THE FDA IS A LIAR

THE FBI IS A LIAR

THE NSA IS A LIAR

THE WHO IS A LIAR

OBAMA NEVER TOLD THE TRUTH

BIDEN ALWAYS LIES

WHO IS WORSHIPING WHO

THEY ALL WORSHIP SATAN



HOWEVER IN JESUS CHRIST

THERE IS

THE TRUTH

AND

THE TRUTH

IS JESUS CHRIST

WHO WILL SET YOU FREE FROM THE LIARS
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And the world hates the truth but the truth is eternal, the lies can't survive.
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ALERT!

Is there any statistics posted pertaining to those who got the 'placebo' and their reaction, versus those that rec'd the shot?

To me that would be a good indicator as to the effectiveness of the vaccine, whether good or bad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80507421


Not sure about that, but given that we are still in the trial stage of all EUA vaccines, I am pretty confident that a fairly significant number of those getting “vax’d” are receiving a placebo. This may be why many have no adverse side effect at all after the fact.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


legal definition of a "vaccine" must provide immunity.

does this "experimental" cocktail provide immunity?

We need to quit calling it a "vax"
 Quoting: abalienari_non_possunt®


Agreed. How about roulette?
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I'd say the real death toll is at least in the tens of thousands, for now...
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That reflects the frail elderly most likely. Part of the "pandemic" was also to rid blue states of the elderly who were costing them so much money.

Yes. They intentionally and purposefully knocked off seniors to save money down the road. Nazi-like.

But the REAL issue is fertility.

[link to thesecondnews.com (secure)]

Autopsies of patient who died AFTER vaccination have shown significant levels of spike protein throughout the body - ESPECIALLY ovaries.

The effect won't be seen for years and will be impossible to trace. Really diabolical, and explains why they are so focused on vaccinating children when there is no real reason to - they are making it up knowingly and intentionally. Evil.
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I will not take the vaccine and know the CDC is far from honest but on the deaths related to taking the vaccine I know of no one who has actually died and only a handful who have had any adverse health problems from taking it, none of which required hospitalization.

Does anyone reading this know someone who has peronally died or had to have been hospitalized?
 Quoting: Jim at the Path Across


I had 2 family members hospitalized for heart attacks within 2 weeks of the vaxxx.

One had 2 heart attacks.

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I'd say the real death toll is at least in the tens of thousands, for now...
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That reflects the frail elderly most likely. Part of the "pandemic" was also to rid blue states of the elderly who were costing them so much money.

Yes. They intentionally and purposefully knocked off seniors to save money down the road. Nazi-like.

But the REAL issue is fertility.

[link to thesecondnews.com (secure)]

Autopsies of patient who died AFTER vaccination have shown significant levels of spike protein throughout the body - ESPECIALLY ovaries.

The effect won't be seen for years and will be impossible to trace. Really diabolical, and explains why they are so focused on vaccinating children when there is no real reason to - they are making it up knowingly and intentionally. Evil.
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Full scientific article

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pretty obvious when there is only 12 flu deaths a month in a population of 330mil
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SATAN IS THE MASTER LIAR

THE CDC IS A LIAR

THE FDA IS A LIAR

THE FBI IS A LIAR

THE NSA IS A LIAR

THE WHO IS A LIAR

OBAMA NEVER TOLD THE TRUTH

BIDEN ALWAYS LIES

WHO IS WORSHIPING WHO

THEY ALL WORSHIP SATAN



HOWEVER IN JESUS CHRIST

THERE IS

THE TRUTH

AND

THE TRUTH

IS JESUS CHRIST

WHO WILL SET YOU FREE FROM THE LIARS
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I BELIEVE THIS MAN IS CORRECT.

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