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Scientists quit journal board, protesting ‘grossly irresponsible’ study claiming COVID-19 vaccines kill

 
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TRUST THE SCIENCE, COMRADES!

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Headline: Rats abandon sinking vaccine ship. True deaths are likely even higher and they can see which way the wind is blowing.
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I thought trump's warp speed vaccine was safe!


this is shocking that Trump would do this to america
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70002712


President Trump was lied to and mislead by all of the conspirators like Fauci and the WHO

He was used and accused to get him defeated and it is still being pushed to keep him from getting elected again.

President Trump won every state. The truth will come out soon, but not soon enough.

When they are ready, China will activate the special 5g pulse that will be sent everywhere by the "up-dated" cell towers. The "special" additives in your patriotic shot will then be activated to kill in their specific way.

The trick is to prevent the truth from getting out until as many of us as possible can be infected by the likes of the pedo-posse.

Not even President Trump can save the vaxxed.
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The vaccine is dangerous, but they don't want to admit it. Even when their own study proves it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80575916


Bingo
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From the article:

“ “The data has been misused because it makes the (incorrect) assumption that all deaths occurring post vaccination are caused by vaccination,” Ewer wrote in an email. “[And] it is now being used by anti-vaxxers and COVID-19-deniers as evidence that COVID-19 vaccines are not safe. [This] is grossly irresponsible, particularly for a journal specialising in vaccines.””
 Quoting: Lover_Girl


Oh so I am sure it was just a coincidence every time people happen to die shortly after they took the vaccine.

Keep in mind all the pro vaccines people for the lat year were saying nearly all deaths were listed as Covid or “died with” Covid. They were listing every type of death as a Covid death before the vaccine.

Now they are getting mad at the very thing they were doing, but with real evidence it was caused by the vaccine. Good grief these people are phony hypocrites.

They are probably scared they may end up in prison.
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From the article:

“ “The data has been misused because it makes the (incorrect) assumption that all deaths occurring post vaccination are caused by vaccination,” Ewer wrote in an email. “[And] it is now being used by anti-vaxxers and COVID-19-deniers as evidence that COVID-19 vaccines are not safe. [This] is grossly irresponsible, particularly for a journal specialising in vaccines.””
 Quoting: Lover_Girl


Isn’t this exactly what they did with covid? Why are they allowed to do it for covid but not the vaccine?

Why is this ok?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78008350


From the article:

“ “The data has been misused because it makes the (incorrect) assumption that all deaths occurring post vaccination are caused by vaccination,” Ewer wrote in an email. “[And] it is now being used by anti-vaxxers and COVID-19-deniers as evidence that COVID-19 vaccines are not safe. [This] is grossly irresponsible, particularly for a journal specialising in vaccines.””
 Quoting: Lover_Girl


That's some priceless irony there.


The very thing that was done to create the coronahoax.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79009989


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I thought trump's warp speed vaccine was safe!


this is shocking that Trump would do this to america
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70002712



Yep, as encouraged and also promoted by liberal Anthony Fauci, liberal Bill Gates, the liberal media, liberal mayors, liberal governors, liberal corporations, liberal academia, liberal Hollywood, etc, etc, etc. Or the type of people you through the years have generally felt kindly and warmly towards.

What the hell is wrong with you?
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From the article:

“ “The data has been misused because it makes the (incorrect) assumption that all deaths occurring post vaccination are caused by vaccination,” Ewer wrote in an email. “[And] it is now being used by anti-vaxxers and COVID-19-deniers as evidence that COVID-19 vaccines are not safe. [This] is grossly irresponsible, particularly for a journal specialising in vaccines.””
 Quoting: Lover_Girl


So they are denying their own reason for rolling-out the GMO death-shots which they have used since the last year which was...

the (incorrect) assumption that all deaths occurring post vaccination with Covid (incorrectly identified using a knowingly-false test) are caused by vaccination Covid.

Lying, murderous cunts, the lot of them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80130059


Exactly!
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The vaccine is dangerous, but they don't want to admit it. Even when their own study proves it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80575916


Because the study wasn't even done by Virologist, Biochemist, nor Epidemiologist..

Just your usual group of YouTube vaxtards:

"None of the paper’s authors is trained in vaccinology, virology, or epidemiology. They are: Harald Walach, a clinical psychologist and science historian by training who describes himself as a health researcher at Poznan University of Medical Sciences in Poland; Rainer Klement, a physicist who studies ketogenic diets in cancer treatment at the Leopoldina Hospital in Schweinfurt, Germany; and Wouter Aukema, an independent data scientist in Hoenderloo, Netherlands.

The three peer reviewers on the paper, two of them anonymous, did not offer any substantial criticism of the authors’ methodology in these brief reviews. One of them, Anne Ulrich, a chemist who directs the Institute of Biological Interfaces and is chair of biochemistry at the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology in Germany, wrote that the authors’ analysis “is performed responsibly … and without methodological flaws … and the results were interpreted with the necessary caveats.”

That's a pretty good reason in any scientific journal to take the study as utter bullshit. But yeah.. Muh muh muh muh muh vaxtards.
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So they are denying the science?!
I thought they were huge advocates of “trust the science”
Hypocrites
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The vaccine is dangerous, but they don't want to admit it. Even when their own study proves it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80575916


Because the study wasn't even done by Virologist, Biochemist, nor Epidemiologist..

Just your usual group of YouTube vaxtards:

"None of the paper’s authors is trained in vaccinology, virology, or epidemiology. They are: Harald Walach, a clinical psychologist and science historian by training who describes himself as a health researcher at Poznan University of Medical Sciences in Poland; Rainer Klement, a physicist who studies ketogenic diets in cancer treatment at the Leopoldina Hospital in Schweinfurt, Germany; and Wouter Aukema, an independent data scientist in Hoenderloo, Netherlands.

The three peer reviewers on the paper, two of them anonymous, did not offer any substantial criticism of the authors’ methodology in these brief reviews. One of them, Anne Ulrich, a chemist who directs the Institute of Biological Interfaces and is chair of biochemistry at the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology in Germany, wrote that the authors’ analysis “is performed responsibly … and without methodological flaws … and the results were interpreted with the necessary caveats.”

That's a pretty good reason in any scientific journal to take the study as utter bullshit. But yeah.. Muh muh muh muh muh vaxtards.
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Since Friday, at least six scientists have resigned positions as associate or section editors with Vaccines, including Florian Krammer, a virologist at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, and Katie Ewer, an immunologist at the Jenner Institute at the University of Oxford who was on the team that developed the Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine.
 Quoting: Ostria1


And now we know why...

They idiots are afraid their careers will be ruined for their stupidity if they really had “good intentions”.

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From the article:

“ “The data has been misused because it makes the (incorrect) assumption that all deaths occurring post vaccination are caused by vaccination,” Ewer wrote in an email. “[And] it is now being used by anti-vaxxers and COVID-19-deniers as evidence that COVID-19 vaccines are not safe. [This] is grossly irresponsible, particularly for a journal specialising in vaccines.””
 Quoting: Lover_Girl


Last year ALL deaths were caused by Covid, whether the decedent was shot, beheaded or mangled in a motorcycle crash.
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I thought trump's warp speed vaccine was safe!


this is shocking that Trump would do this to america
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70002712


President Trump was lied to and mislead by all of the conspirators like Fauci and the WHO

He was used and accused to get him defeated and it is still being pushed to keep him from getting elected again.

President Trump won every state. The truth will come out soon, but not soon enough.

When they are ready, China will activate the special 5g pulse that will be sent everywhere by the "up-dated" cell towers. The "special" additives in your patriotic shot will then be activated to kill in their specific way.

The trick is to prevent the truth from getting out until as many of us as possible can be infected by the likes of the pedo-posse.

Not even President Trump can save the vaxxed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77046724


True..but that was clear right from the begining.
Yet he played along and still does, instead of at least distancing himself a bit.
Noone to blame there.

Pharma VacciNazi is not left, right issue, just like Trump is much more liberal than conservative in many ways..and had in many cases equally passionate support from many so-called leftists.

Are you good person or shit person?

All that matters.
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I thought trump's warp speed vaccine was safe!


this is shocking that Trump would do this to america
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70002712


President Trump was lied to and mislead by all of the conspirators like Fauci and the WHO

He was used and accused to get him defeated and it is still being pushed to keep him from getting elected again.

President Trump won every state. The truth will come out soon, but not soon enough.

When they are ready, China will activate the special 5g pulse that will be sent everywhere by the "up-dated" cell towers. The "special" additives in your patriotic shot will then be activated to kill in their specific way.

The trick is to prevent the truth from getting out until as many of us as possible can be infected by the likes of the pedo-posse.

Not even President Trump can save the vaxxed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77046724


Stop making excuses for a grown man

He’s not autistic.

He was selected, not voted in.
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"present assessment raises the question whether it would be necessary to rethink
policies and use COVID-19 vaccines more sparingly and with some discretion only in those
that are willing to accept the risk because they feel more at risk from the true infection
than the mock infection."
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I thought trump's warp speed vaccine was safe!


this is shocking that Trump would do this to america
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70002712


Why do you keep calling it Trumps vaccine? Trump is not a scientist nor is he a doctor. He was a politician.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43603775


Trump Spokeswoman: Americans Will Be Taking 'Trump Vaccine'



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because it is!
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On the short run..give it time


The proof?

During worst vivid waves all total deaths werent higher than usual statistics...with vaxines we are already dying 2X speed
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Well they quit their jobs over it, so they think the wrong data is being used.
 Quoting: Lover_Girl


That's a non sequitur.

Your consequent/conclusion does not follow from your antecedent/premise.

Why not? Because there are other possible (and quite feasible) reasons that the scientists actually quit.
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Pharma VacciNazi is not left, right issue, just like Trump is much more liberal than conservative in many ways..and had in many cases equally passionate support from many so-called leftists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72299469


I'd say that mRNA vaccines and Covid-19 have become as politicized as AGW has been. Or anything else for that matter.

So there is either a mainly leftwing or rightwing tilt to an issue.

Trump admittedly allowed his original skepticism of vaccines to be drowned by a huge wave of "lefty" pro-Fauci/Gates/mRNA sea of support.
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I thought trump's warp speed vaccine was safe!


this is shocking that Trump would do this to america
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70002712


Trump is out - Get over it! Biden is in charge now and could very well have stopped the vaccinations if they were unsafe.
 Quoting: Little Red Hen


They are peas in a pod.
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I’m starting to believe the “mad cow” disease was fabricated. What it really could be is a trial run of nanotechnology spike protein aka prion disease. You see, they can’t find prions, only the holes they leave in the brain.

The mysterious cattle mutilations seeming to be aliens sampling the heard, were actually government scientists testing the efficacy of their bio weapon.
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Interesting conclusion.
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I will send to some pHD nerds later for feedback.



I dunno, everyone I know got it, my parents, team members, nobody had any reaction except being tired for a day or two.



I am not laughing at your post though. This post actually involves a real science journal and should be looked at closer.
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On the short run..give it time


The proof?

During worst vivid waves all total deaths werent higher than usual statistics...with vaxines we are already dying 2X speed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80576719


They call them deaths from the scary new "variant".
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From the article:

“ “The data has been misused because it makes the (incorrect) assumption that all deaths occurring post vaccination are caused by vaccination,” Ewer wrote in an email. “[And] it is now being used by anti-vaxxers and COVID-19-deniers as evidence that COVID-19 vaccines are not safe. [This] is grossly irresponsible, particularly for a journal specialising in vaccines.””
 Quoting: Lover_Girl


Irresponsible of them. When the alternative media pointed out that most deaths occurring where being attributed to covid-19, instead of underlying conditions the vaccinators cried foul.

Bunch of liars, crooks, murderers and thieves. Just take ivermectin, it works fine
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The vaccine is dangerous, but they don't want to admit it. Even when their own study proves it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80575916


And still don’t know long term side effects.
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All deaths were COVID deaths for 15 months, but not all post-vaxx deaths are due to the vaxx. Got it.
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I dunno, everyone I know got it, my parents, team members, nobody had any reaction except being tired for a day or two.
 Quoting: Uncle Gintel

But did you travel 10 years into the future to check the long-term impacts (which is the core concern that smart folks are worried about)?

If not, then how does it matter in any relevant sense that your circle hasn't had bad reactions yet?

When people get infected with HIV, many experience flu-like symptoms within the first few weeks, and a small number of people die during that stage while the vast majority survive (just like with Covid). BUT if left untreated it will kill about 90% of them within about 10 years.

You could just as easily say about HIV, "I dunno, everyone I know got it, my parents, team members, nobody had any reaction except being tired for a day or two."





GLP