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Phillip J. Fry
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"that participation in medical trials is not considered compatible with aviation medical certification"


No Vaxxed Pilots OR Vaxx Approval coming?


Either way, Air Disasters TV show gonna get some new
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"that participation in medical trials is not considered compatible with aviation medical certification"


No Vaxxed Pilots OR Vaxx Approval coming?


Either way, Air Disasters TV show gonna get some new
material.



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 Quoting: Phillip J. Fry

waitwhat

Does Transport Canada see the current vaccines as part of medical trials?
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epiclol

HOLY EPIC FUCKING SHIT

epiclol
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"that participation in medical trials is not considered compatible with aviation medical certification"


No Vaxxed Pilots OR Vaxx Approval coming?


Either way, Air Disasters TV show gonna get some new
material.



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 Quoting: Phillip J. Fry

waitwhat

Does Transport Canada see the current vaccines as part of medical trials?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79173153


See it? They are a trial? They are literally still in clinical trials.

Oh sorry, I guess Canada is different.
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INSANITY

let me tell ya that at least mazatlan and cancun are collapsed

medically

you fly down there for a HO-liday.

coming back inna body bag.

we will put a flag over coffinCanadian F
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"that participation in medical trials is not considered compatible with aviation medical certification"


No Vaxxed Pilots OR Vaxx Approval coming?


Either way, Air Disasters TV show gonna get some new
material.



[link to tc.canada.ca (secure)]
 Quoting: Phillip J. Fry


The first line at that link says: "Transport Canada Civil Aviation Medicine does not restrict or limit aviators from taking vaccines that have been approved by Health Canada."

This page shows that the Gates mixtures have been approved: [link to www.canada.ca (secure)]

Not sure you're reading this right...
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Looks like Canada authorized the vaxes by interim order, and in a couple places says the vaxes are "approved." The vaxes are not described as being parts of medical trials.

For ex.

The vaccine is approved for people who are 18 years of age and older. Its safety and effectiveness in people younger than 18 years of age have not yet been established.
 Quoting: Health Canada


[link to www.canada.ca (secure)]

Maybe I'm missing the fine print somewhere.
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Looks like Canada authorized the vaxes by interim order, and in a couple places says the vaxes are "approved." The vaxes are not described as being parts of medical trials.

For ex.

The vaccine is approved for people who are 18 years of age and older. Its safety and effectiveness in people younger than 18 years of age have not yet been established.
 Quoting: Health Canada


[link to www.canada.ca (secure)]

Maybe I'm missing the fine print somewhere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79173153


I searched and didn't see whether it was authorized for emergency use. Or passed all medical trials and legally authorized.

It's still in trials in every other country. Are they being deceptive?


Who do you trust? trustnoone
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juanstar takes his Vaxx in his bottle.
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Hold up.

Looking through the fine print.

Here:

For the purposes of the definition innovative drug in subsection C.08.004.1‍(1) of the Regulations, a medicinal ingredient in a COVID-19 drug is not considered to be approved in a drug by the Minister by reason of the Minister having issued or amended an authorization in respect of the COVID-19 drug.
 Quoting: Interim Order


[link to www.canada.ca (secure)]


Hmmm.
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Interpretation

(3) For the purposes of the definition innovative drug in subsection C.08.004.1‍(1) of the Regulations, a medicinal ingredient in a COVID-19 drug is not considered to be approved in a drug by the Minister by reason of the Minister having issued or amended an authorization in respect of the COVID-19 drug.

NOT an approved drug.
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There is a lot of info regarding the problems with Pilots, crew and passengers having increased thrombosis risk (blood clots) when vaccinated.

A related thread with some discussion.
Thread: As American cancels flights, amid rumors of pilots dying or suffering clots, FAA lists 48 aircraft events and 7 deaths in last two days

I've spoken with my friend (unvaxxed pilot) and his doctor also warned him about the risks of thrombosis and why many have been holding off on getting the shot until they understand more about these risks.

Could be career ending for pilots who get the vax. (Life ending even)
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Interpretation

(3) For the purposes of the definition innovative drug in subsection C.08.004.1‍(1) of the Regulations, a medicinal ingredient in a COVID-19 drug is not considered to be approved in a drug by the Minister by reason of the Minister having issued or amended an authorization in respect of the COVID-19 drug.

NOT an approved drug.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568


But that is 'drug' not a vaccine so the wording may be constructed to prevent the ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine from being used as alternative treatments.

Do they have any information if they regard the vaccine specifically as experimental and a trial somewhere?
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From the link:
Transport Canada (TC) Civil Aviation Medicine (CAM), does not impose grounding periods for aviators who wish to take vaccines approved by Health Canada.

Aviators should review the Aeronautical Information Manual for more information on vaccinations.


The hyper-link included in this portion takes you to the Information Manual.
I went there and did a search for "vaccinations" and "vaccine" - - - zero results.

So you should refer to the Manual for more info on vaccinations, but the Manual doesn't SAY ANYTHING about vaccinations.

Typical government BS.
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Interpretation

(3) For the purposes of the definition innovative drug in subsection C.08.004.1‍(1) of the Regulations, a medicinal ingredient in a COVID-19 drug is not considered to be approved in a drug by the Minister by reason of the Minister having issued or amended an authorization in respect of the COVID-19 drug.

NOT an approved drug.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568


But that is 'drug' not a vaccine so the wording may be constructed to prevent the ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine from being used as alternative treatments.

Do they have any information if they regard the vaccine specifically as experimental and a trial somewhere?
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


The "vaccine" (CV19 Vaxx) isn't a vaccine by any stretch of the imagination, that's why they call it a drug.
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"Regulatory Decision Summary - Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine - Health Canada"

Date of..

"Date of decision: 2020-12-09"

[link to covid-vaccine.canada.ca (secure)]


What the decision was, in article the next day.

"Health Canada authorises emergency use of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine"

Date of..

"10 December 2020"

[link to www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com (secure)]


So no, not finding anything of later date, Pfizer is Not Fully Tested and Approved.

If you find any poast it.
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Interpretation

(3) For the purposes of the definition innovative drug in subsection C.08.004.1‍(1) of the Regulations, a medicinal ingredient in a COVID-19 drug is not considered to be approved in a drug by the Minister by reason of the Minister having issued or amended an authorization in respect of the COVID-19 drug.

NOT an approved drug.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568


But that is 'drug' not a vaccine so the wording may be constructed to prevent the ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine from being used as alternative treatments.

Do they have any information if they regard the vaccine specifically as experimental and a trial somewhere?
 Quoting: YouAreDreaming


What vaccine? There is NO VACCINE. NADA. DOES NOT EXISTS.

The experimental drug is a treatment. NOT VACCINE.
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"Regulatory Decision Summary - Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine - Health Canada"

Date of..

"Date of decision: 2020-12-09"

[link to covid-vaccine.canada.ca (secure)]


What the decision was, in article the next day.

"Health Canada authorises emergency use of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine"

Date of..

"10 December 2020"

[link to www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com (secure)]


So no, not finding anything of later date, Pfizer is Not Fully Tested and Approved.

If you find any poast it.
 Quoting: Phillip J. Fry


That's great news because the state of emergency has ended in my province making it unlawful for these experimental kill-shots to be forced on those not wanting to participate in mass insanity and mass psychosis.
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Hey the 1st Juan Star's cousin showed up!

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From the link:
Transport Canada (TC) Civil Aviation Medicine (CAM), does not impose grounding periods for aviators who wish to take vaccines approved by Health Canada.

Aviators should review the Aeronautical Information Manual for more information on vaccinations.


The hyper-link included in this portion takes you to the Information Manual.
I went there and did a search for "vaccinations" and "vaccine" - - - zero results.

So you should refer to the Manual for more info on vaccinations, but the Manual doesn't SAY ANYTHING about vaccinations.

Typical government BS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568


Right. Saw that. They send you to the manual for info on vaccines and it says nothing about vaccines or medical trials.

Just too weird.
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"Regulatory Decision Summary - Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine - Health Canada"

Date of..

"Date of decision: 2020-12-09"

[link to covid-vaccine.canada.ca (secure)]


What the decision was, in article the next day.

"Health Canada authorises emergency use of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine"

Date of..

"10 December 2020"

[link to www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com (secure)]


So no, not finding anything of later date, Pfizer is Not Fully Tested and Approved.

If you find any poast it.
 Quoting: Phillip J. Fry


Yes, correct, it received interim authorization. However the Health Canada site describes the vaxes as "approved".

But the "innovative" drug in the vax is "not" "approved."

The other thing is, if you go through the laundry list of things that the vaxes have to comply with, there's all the labeling regulations. Each vial has to meet code. And the code stipulates precise instructions and ingredients, etc.

So, again, it is like some intern cranked out some legalese and press releases to paper over the mass-vaxing of the public and then the various agencies tried to come up to speed and didn't even know the regs or their own guidelines.

But incompetence theory always fails. These agencies aren't incompetent. They're engaged in a very technical, legal cover-up.
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"Regulatory Decision Summary - Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine - Health Canada"

Date of..

"Date of decision: 2020-12-09"

[link to covid-vaccine.canada.ca (secure)]


What the decision was, in article the next day.

"Health Canada authorises emergency use of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine"

Date of..

"10 December 2020"

[link to www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com (secure)]


So no, not finding anything of later date, Pfizer is Not Fully Tested and Approved.

If you find any poast it.
 Quoting: Phillip J. Fry


Yes, correct, it received interim authorization. However the Health Canada site describes the vaxes as "approved".

But the "innovative" drug in the vax is "not" "approved."

The other thing is, if you go through the laundry list of things that the vaxes have to comply with, there's all the labeling regulations. Each vial has to meet code. And the code stipulates precise instructions and ingredients, etc.

So, again, it is like some intern cranked out some legalese and press releases to paper over the mass-vaxing of the public and then the various agencies tried to come up to speed and didn't even know the regs or their own guidelines.

But incompetence theory always fails. These agencies aren't incompetent. They're engaged in a very technical, legal cover-up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79173153


Approved for what is the question.

Approved for emergency use or approved after testing, trials etc.

Yup the seedy Legalese.

Last Edited by Phillip J. Fry on 07/13/2021 12:59 PM
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Transport Canada Civil Aviation Medicine does not restrict or limit aviators from taking vaccines that have been approved by Health Canada.

Transport Canada (TC) Civil Aviation Medicine (CAM), does not impose grounding periods for aviators who wish to take vaccines approved by Health Canada.

from link provided
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Paramedics shouldn’t also.

Nice thread
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It'll be a sad and interesting day when both pilot and co-pilot experience one of them "rare" side effects at the same time.

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Or are they playing it safe and doing 1 vaxxed and 1 unvaxxed on the DL?
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Paramedics shouldn’t also.

Nice thread
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Not just paramedics anyone who drives a car should be exempt as they can potential die at the wheel and cause an accident.
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This is old, like last year old.
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Bump for interest.





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