The two anointed are two olive trees. One is the natural olive tree and the other is the wild olive tree.

Luke 15 is another example of the two anointed...the prodigal son being the wild olive tree and the elder son an example of judah the older son.








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The heebrew word the king James uses in Ezekiel 37 for the two sticks of Judah and Joseph is “es” which can means sticks but the correct translation would be trees. Here is how many times the word was used as different translations in different scriptures:

The KJV translates Strong's H6086 “es” in the following manner: tree (162x), wood (107x), timber (23x), stick (14x), gallows (8x), staff (4x), stock (4x), carpenter (with H2796) (2x), branches (1x), helve (1x), planks (1x), stalks (1x).




Ezekiel 37 with the correct translation of the heebrew word "es" for tree which they have translated as stick: keep in mind the two anointed are two olive trees..joseph the wild olive tree and judah the natural olive tree:



16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one tree, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another tree, and write upon it, For Joseph, the tree of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:

17 And join them one to another into one tree; and they shall become one in thine hand.

18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?

19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the tree of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and triibes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the tree of Judah, and make them one tree, and they shall be one in mine hand.





Zechariah 4:

11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?

12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?

13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.

14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.




Revelation 11:

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.












Can you see why we are divided yet “s-wordlike?” It is the splitting of the two olive trees the wild olive tree of Joseph and the natural olive tree of Judah Ezekiel 37....it’s the breaking of the brotherhood .

Zechariah 11:14:

Then I cut asunder mine other staff, even Bands, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.


By being a separate olive tree if you watched the video you will know when the natural olive tree is dying the wild olive tree is grafted into the natural olive tree and revives the natural olive tree and they bring forth much fruit.

The only 2 olive trees in the Bible are the natural and the wild. If you have 2 anointed you make one the natural olive tree and the other the wild olive tree that the wild one can preserve the natural one when the natural one gets old to preserve the old natural one.


‘S-wordlike” you always wanna be a Joseph but never a Judah....that is why you are so confused...lol....make yourself Judah and your partner Joseph.....the pieces all fall into place perfectly...but I’m sure it’s a little early for that secret/revelation. You are the natural olive tree not the wild olive tree....you study too much to be the Joseph wild olive tree...you are clearly the Judah natural olive tree...lol....learn Ezekiel 37 isn’t 2 sticks of Judah and Joseph....it is the 2 olive trees of Judah and Joseph the 2 anointed .



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13:00 - 14:00 minutes in: according to Matthew Henry, Adam Clark and early commentaries the wild olive tree did not produce fruit so it had to be grafted into the natural olive tree to produce fruit.......one might say “the wild olive tree didn’t have the fire in its belly”...lol





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Thank you Waterman.

Truly all children of God are wild branches grafted in.

The servant of God may be a "branch" but a branch can not be fruitful without being connected to the root.

Jesus is the ROOT and branch of David, amazing :)

Once you realize there are 2 olive trees the natural one and the wild one then we can see why Jeremiah 23 mentions the branch but then repeats it again in Jeremiah 33. Because you have the Judah natural Branch and then you have the Joseph wild olive Branch. As we know there are two servants who become United in the end


No where is Jesus ever mentioned as being a "Branch"..Jesus is always the "Vine"....the 2 witnesses are the "Branch"

One witness is a "king" and the other is a "priest"



Zechariah 6:12-13

King James Version (KJV)

12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:

13 Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

The Branch is clearly the one building the temple of the Lord and in the book of Zechariah it is Joshua the priest and Zerubbabel the head of triibe of Judah building the temple and the counsel of peace shall be between the king and the priest




Jeremiah 23 shows the Zerubbabel half of the Branch

Jeremiah 23:5-6

King James Version (KJV)

5 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice(righteousness) in the earth.

6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby "he" shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.




Jeremiah 33 shows the Joshua half of the Branch
...notice no mention of the word "King" in these verses that is because it is the "Priest" side...the world is made up of male and female the kingdom of God is made up of kings and priests...kings masculine and priests feminine but not of the nature as we think of male and female on earth.

15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith "she" shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.

17 For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne(King) of the house of Israel;

18 Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.


Psalm 72(A psalm of solomon)

King James Version (KJV)

72 Give the king thy judgments, O God, and thy righteousness unto the king's son.

Notice the "Branch" executes "Judgement and righteousness"
The king thy judgement and the kings son thy righteousness"

The "Branch is 2 that become 1 because the Branch has the mission of joining the 2 that are separated Judah and Israel





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Everything in the bible is about your body, THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

OP, do you know about the pineal gland? the milk and the honey? It could help you.

The kingdom of God is in heaven

Those two olive trees represent j*w and gentile and you determine being j*w by your mother. Your mom featured j*w a mile away. J*ws always require signs like you do. Not one...not two....they require tons of signs. The gentile tree side goes by faith by believing without seeing signs and confirmations because they go by faith. Sound familiar? Two olive trees...two paths the cultivated j*w olive tree and the gentile olive tree



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Part 2:

15:00 minutes to 21:00 minutes: when Adam said “bone of my bone”. That word bone in the Heeebrew is related to the Heeeebrew word “es” which means “tree” so Adam was saying this is tree of my tree...watch 6 minutes it has some interesting points....it goes on to tell you what flesh of my flesh means also....flesh of my flesh....good news comes from good news....the second born takes what the first born plows and divides the blessing between the 2 anointed.








16:15 minutes into 20:05 the enemy will always try to come between the two anointed.....when the enemy can’t destroy you he will try to destroy the unification. There is always a unification and the enemy will try to convince one it is a single anointed task so the unification won’t happen. The enemy will get you to entertain the idea that you can have both positions to bring enmity between you and your partner. The problem being the 2nd born gets the birthright allowing Satan to sweep in and convince the 1st born “that should be yours friend”....that’s how simple the enemy sweeps in....just cast an inkling of “are you sure that blessing isn’t yours”.....and it grows from there. If you don’t know you are 1st born and the other guy is 2nd born birthright holder...you wasted over 40 years. But waste as much time as you want....it all ends the same.



Adam we have to become one stop trying to claim both offices that is the enemy enticing you



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Op, I've been trying to understand the significance of the scriptures below for a couple months. Reading Genesis 49, Israel goes at length when blessing Judah and Joseph. I always understood the blessing of Judah in terms of the line of David and the Messiah. So that seems really significant to me. What I don't understand is Joseph - I think in a way he represents Israel, but the blessing seems so monumental, I was trying see if there was something more concrete were this blessing was fulfilled?

I may be dead wrong, but one thing I found, I believe there is a definite connection between Joseph and the man-child of Rev.12. I say that because the language which Joseph uses to describe his vision in Genesis 37 (sun/moon/11 stars) is almost identical to the language describing the woman in labor, except it is 12 stars - meaning Joseph is the 12th star I guess?

Anyhow, don't wanna throw anyone off track, so if I'm wrong, I'm hoping for some understanding. Given the nature of your thread and how it presents Joseph, I was hoping for some insight. Thanks!

8 Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before thee.

9 Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?

10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

11 Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:

12 His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk. GENESIS 49:8-12


22 Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:

23 The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:

24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:)

25 Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:

26 The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren. GENESIS 49:22 -26

and... heaven is inside of you !

You are thinking that because of Luke 17:

20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.



The king James does a poor translation as Jesus is speaking to the Pharisees and we know the kingdom of God wasn’t in them. Therefore the correct translation is the kingdom of God is among you as Jesus is the representative of the Kingdom of God.


Luke 17 niv:

The Coming of the Kingdom of God

20 Once, on being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, “The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed, 21 nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’ because the kingdom of God is in your midst.”[c]

Amplified version:

nor will people say, ‘Look! Here it is!’ or, ‘There it is!’ For the kingdom of God is among you [because of My presence].”

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There comes a time when the mounting evidence becomes undeniable and that time is now.




Isaiah 49:4

Then I said, I have laboured in vain, I have spent my strength for nought, and in vain: yet surely my judgment is with the LORD, and my work with my God

Some guy is even going as far as to claiming to be both witnesses...lol


Moses and Elijah. The end time Moses will be from the line of Judah and the end time Elijah will be from the line of Joseph according to ezekiel 37. That one will inherit the sceptre and the other the birthright to inherit the priesthood.



Ezekiel 37 with the correct translation of the word “es” in the heeebrew for stick which should be translated as tree as in olive trees

Ezekiel 37:

16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one tree, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another tree, and write upon it, For Joseph, the tree of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:



Joshua and zerrubbabel are the 2 anointed in zechariah and show what the position of the final two anointed will be and that is one will be the civil leader like zerrubbabel and the other will hold the office of the earthly high priest like Joshua








4 year olds can even understand the king can’t be the priest on earth:


13:00 minutes - 14:20 minutes:



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Really?.....I’m working with a guy that doesn’t even know Israel is the olive tree? Watch some of those new videos I supplied you in my new thread. It will catch you up. I know it’s the weekend but the homework will do you wonders...lol.


I guess you skipped over Jeremiah 11:

16 The Lord called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.



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A little boy was crying loudly. The housekeeper comes in and asks “what’s the matter? The little boy points at an expensive vase on a top shelf and says “I want that!” The housekeeper says it’s expensive and he can’t play with it. The young boy cries even louder. The mother hears the cry and comes in asking what is the matter? The boy points at the expensive vase and says he wants it. The mother pulls it down and gives it to him. After she gives it to him the boy begins crying again. The mother asks what is the matter now. The boy says “ I want something I can’t have!”


Adams sin: He took from something he couldn’t have...the tree

David’s sin: He took something he couldn’t have another mans wife

The end times David sin will be he is going to try to take something that isn’t his.







A young couple moved into a new house.
The next morning while they were eating breakfast, the young woman saw her neighbor hanging the washing outside.
"That laundry is not very clean; she doesn’t know how to wash correctly. Perhaps she needs better soap powder.
Her husband looked on, remaining silent.
Every time her neighbor hung her washing out to dry, the young woman made the same comments.
A month later, the woman was surprised to see a nice clean wash on the line and said to her husband, "Look, she’s finally learned how to wash correctly. I wonder who taught her this?"
The husband replied, "I got up early this morning and cleaned our windows."
And so it is with life… What we see when watching others depends on the clarity of the window through which we look.
So don’t be too quick to judge others, especially if your perspective of life is clouded by anger, jealousy, negativity or unfulfilled desires.
"Judging a person does not define who they are. It defines who you are."
— Jonathan Kestenbaum

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Jesus can’t rule on earth as the millennial kingdom is davidic/levitic according to Jeremiah and Ezekiel which means separation of the kingship and the priesthood. If Jesus was to rule on earth in that kingdom he could only be King and would need another to be high priest.

Notice Jesus’ ministry was for 3 and a half years. Notice when the two witnesses of revelation come their ministry is 3 and a half years. Notice Jesus raised from the dead after 3 days. Notice the two anointed raise from the dead after 3.5 days. Jesus will rule from heaven as King and High Priest after the order of melchelzedek with his bride and tribulation saints. The two witnesses will rule on earth over the j*ws and surviving armeghedon gentiles that salvation can be offered to them during the millennium as the j*ws will no longer be blinded to seeing Jesus as savior because the fullness of the gentiles will have come in.

The position of the two witnesses of revelation are one the earthly king and the other the earthly high priest. This is why Jesus said to the two who wanted to sit in his left and right in the new heaven and new earth... “can you drink from the cup I drink?” Heaven is melchelzedek order where all can be kings and priests. Earth is davidic/levitic where there is separation of the kingship/priesthood. Once those on earth have passed their test of faith in Jesus then they will become kings and priests in the new heaven and new earth after the millennium where Jesus will be King and High Priest of both J*ew and Gentile. The two anointed will sit on Jesus right and left as an eternal reminder of the former davidic/levitic kingdom on the former earth.




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No. It's two persons that will die, lay in the streets of Jerusalem for 3 days and then resurrect. Read the bible. It's clear as day. Who they are is a source of difference among bible scholars.

I don't understand why people just don't read the bible. Some things are allegorical, but usually the author tells us explicitly or Jesus does. Take the bible literal when it's obviously so.

Given a white robe with a Grail Cup inside the pocket.

I agree. The olive tree represents Israel. Showing when the olive tree was separated just as Israel was divided into two kingdoms then there became 2 Israel’s. Macro and micro. Northern kingdom of Israel and southern kingdom of Israel. And a representative for each kingdom hence the two witnesses of revelation. The two anointed are said to be two olive trees meaning they are two Israel’s.

And won't be a lamb led to slaughter.

One was natural and one is spirit.

Jesus can’t rule on earth as the millennial kingdom is davidic/levitic according to Jeremiah and Ezekiel which means separation of the kingship and the priesthood. If Jesus was to rule on earth in that kingdom he could only be King and would need another to be high priest.

Notice Jesus’ ministry was for 3 and a half years. Notice when the two witnesses of revelation come their ministry is 3 and a half years. Notice Jesus raised from the dead after 3 days. Notice the two anointed raise from the dead after 3.5 days. Jesus will rule from heaven as King and High Priest after the order of melchelzedek with his bride and tribulation saints. The two witnesses will rule on earth over the j*ws and surviving armeghedon saints that salvation can be offered to them during the millennium as the j*ws will no longer be blinded to seeing Jesus as savior because the the fullness of the gentiles will have come in.

The position of the two witnesses of revelation are one the earthly king and the other the earthly high priest. This is why Jesus said to the two who wanted to sit in his left and right in the new heaven and new earth... “can you drink from the cup I drink?” Heaven is melchelzedek order where all can be kings and priests. Earth is davidic/levitic where there is separation of the kingship/priesthood. Once those on earth have passed their test if faith in Jesus then they will become kings and priests in the new heaven and new earth after the millennium where Jesus will be King and High Priest of both J*ew and Gentile. The two anointed will sit on Jesus right and left as an eternal reminder of the former davidic/levitic kingdom on the former earth.

Your thread title is illogical. Natural is wild.

Romans 11 Paul explains the two olive trees

It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body.

If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

So it is written:


“The first man Adam became a living being;” the last Adam a life-giving spirit.


The spiritual, however, was not first, but the natural, and then the spiritual.

Now I know why I was helped off the top of that dead tree in that dream I had .



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My wife and I had two living olive trees as a backdrop to our wedding.

So here is a question about the wild olive tree:

Since a wild olive tree does not produce good fruit, it would seem to me that the reason would be that it has an inferior root system. How then can a good olive branch that is grafted into a bad (wild) olive tree produce good fruit?




Here is an answer:

Firstly, your assumption is that 'good fruit' are those that can be eaten by humans, which is fine from a farming point of view, but ignores the reason that wild olives produce fruit - to propogate the species.

Years of selective breeding produce olive varieties which have large, juicy and pleasantly tasting fruit which are ideal for eating, but in the meantime strong rooting charateristics such as abilities to extract nutrients and water from poor soils are lost.

Your wild ('bad') olive trees may produce tiny fruit with big stones and a thin layer of bitter-tasting flesh but they have great root systems. So farmers have learnt to graft the productive branches (giving the best quality olives) onto the most effective root systems (able to access all of the plants needs) and so produce a highly productive tree which is able to grow well in poor conditions.


We see in Zechariah and Revelation that the two anointed are described as 2 olive trees. It doesn’t take much thought to recognize one of the olive trees must be the older natural/cultivated olive tree and the other anointed being the younger wild olive tree

So we would look for a natural olive tree anointed one that produces fruit/has fire in the belly so to speak…lol. Then we look for a wild olive tree anointed that doesn’t produce fruit/doesn’t have that fire in the belly so to speak…lol. That’s how you find your two anointed

Once you graft the two olive trees together they will produce much fruit.. The younger olive tree is grafted into an older dying olive tree to revive it…..hmmm




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