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The ninth and last sign of Hopi prophecy about to come true?

 
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The ninth and last sign of Hopi prophecy about to come true?
The Ninth and Last Sign About to Come True?

By White Feather, Bear Clan, Hopi Tribe


"The Fourth World shall end soon, and the Fifth World will begin. This

the elders everywhere know. The Signs over many years have been

fulfilled, and so few are left.


"This is the First Sign: We were told of the coming of the white-skinned

men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana -- men who took the land

that was not theirs and who struck their enemies with thunder. (Guns)


"This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning

wheels filled with voices. (Covered wagons)


"This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great

long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. (Longhorn cattle)


"This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron.

(Railroad tracks)


"This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant

spider's web. (Power and telephone lines)


"This is the Sixth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of

stone that make pictures in the sun. (Concrete roads and their

mirage-producing effects.)


"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and

many living things dying because of it. (Oil spills)


"This is the Eighth Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair

long like our people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn our

ways and wisdom. (Hippies)


"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place

in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It

will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of the

Hopi people will cease.


"These are the Signs that great destruction is here: The world shall

rock to and fro. The white man will battle people in other lands -- those

who possessed the first light of wisdom. There will be many columns

of smoke and fire such as the white man has made in the deserts not

far from here. Those who stay and live in the places of the Hopi shall

be safe. Then there will be much to rebuild. And soon, very soon

afterward, Pahana will return. He shall bring with him the dawn of the

Fifth World. He shall plant the seeds of his wisdom in our hearts. Even

now the seeds are being planted. These shall smooth the way to the

Emergence into the Fifth World."
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Re: The ninth and last sign of Hopi prophecy about to come true?
Maasaw always give ifs and maybes so that we may redeem ourself's and the following may help some.

Start with living simply
Practice self-denial
Practice self-sufficiency
Make careful choices
Recognize together we can save the world
Attitude and application are equal partners
Attitude about life and environment needs to be reverent

Elderly Elder "Dont let the burden of worries trouble you into sickness and let your hears be filled with happiness, enjoy your lives to the fullest, for this is the best medicine for sickness, live long and for there are great and exciting adventures awaiting you." The Hopi Survival Kit pg 368
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Re: The ninth and last sign of Hopi prophecy about to come true?
Maasaw always give ifs and maybes so that we may redeem ourself's and the following may help some.

Start with living simply
Practice self-denial
Practice self-sufficiency
Make careful choices
Recognize together we can save the world
Attitude and application are equal partners
Attitude about life and environment needs to be reverent

Elderly Elder "Dont let the burden of worries trouble you into sickness and let your hears be filled with happiness, enjoy your lives to the fullest, for this is the best medicine for sickness, live long and for there are great and exciting adventures awaiting you." The Hopi Survival Kit pg 368
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Yeehah!
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Re: The ninth and last sign of Hopi prophecy about to come true?
You say

"Then the ceremonies of the Hopi people will cease."

then

"Those who stay and live in the places of the Hopi shall

be safe"

Umm, wont those who live with the hopi be dead too?
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"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place

in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It

will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of the

Hopi people will cease.

This is the part that interested me...
Was hoping to hear from the Astronomy crowd about what kind of
"dwelling place in the heavens" this could be.
I wonder if this is comet Holmes???
turtles know: low profiles are best.
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"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place

in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It

will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of the

Hopi people will cease.

This is the part that interested me...
Was hoping to hear from the Astronomy crowd about what kind of
"dwelling place in the heavens" this could be.
I wonder if this is comet Holmes???
 Quoting: fieldolight


i always thought of the space station
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the Space Station????
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The space station will come crashing down ,a Blue Streak across the skies.
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"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place

in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It

will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of the

Hopi people will cease.

This is the part that interested me...
Was hoping to hear from the Astronomy crowd about what kind of
"dwelling place in the heavens" this could be.
I wonder if this is comet Holmes???
 Quoting: fieldolight

space station?
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"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place

in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It

will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of the

Hopi people will cease.

This is the part that interested me...
Was hoping to hear from the Astronomy crowd about what kind of
"dwelling place in the heavens" this could be.
I wonder if this is comet Holmes???
 Quoting: fieldolight

The space station or a space shuttle? Maybe an alien craft like Rosewell?
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"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place

in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It

will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of the

Hopi people will cease.

This is the part that interested me...
Was hoping to hear from the Astronomy crowd about what kind of
"dwelling place in the heavens" this could be.
I wonder if this is comet Holmes???
 Quoting: fieldolight


space station.
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The space station will come crashing down ,a Blue Streak across the skies.
 Quoting: ac 312489


yes, probably hit by comet holmes.

Seriously, the 1st time i heard that hopi prophesy i immediately thought of the space station.

'You will hear of a dwelling-place
in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. '
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"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place

in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It

will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of the

Hopi people will cease.

This is the part that interested me...
Was hoping to hear from the Astronomy crowd about what kind of
"dwelling place in the heavens" this could be.
I wonder if this is comet Holmes???

space station?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 276706


I, too, believe it to be the space station. Some years ago another space station or one of the satellites fell from orbit and people reported seeing it come through the atmosphere as a blue ball.
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I, too, believe it to be the space station. Some years ago another space station or one of the satellites fell from orbit and people reported seeing it come through the atmosphere as a blue ball.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 347824


skylab, years ago?
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Re: The ninth and last sign of Hopi prophecy about to come true?
considering each sign of Hopi took at least 25 years or so to complete, we would have to wait at least another 25 years after this thing falls from the sky before the end is nigh. You didn't really think that as soon as we see the blue light the shit is going to hit the fan, did you?
Seems Hopi's are way off target with their timing.
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Darn, every single prophecy will always make the last one very difficult to work out. And they always talk in riddles. What does a dwelling place mean anyway? Why couldn't he just say " I saw a big fucking chunk of metal crashing down"?
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I'm voting on Skylab, that already happened.

The Hopis talk about the ceasing of their ceremonies, this is a feasible possibility as there are oil and mining companies in the area of their reservation that are conducting their business in such a way that the Hopi are unable to do their ceremonies in certain parts of the land on their reservation and in the surrounding areas. This may have been what they were talking about.

Everything I have said is verifiable.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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I've always thought these prophecies to be amazing if true. They really do predict the future amazingly well
but.. when did they first appear? I cant help but think they where made up in the seventies or something (like the mother shipton prophecies that were written hundreds of years latter than claimed).
Is there any evidence of them actually being around in the 19th century ?? If not I call shenanigans on the whole thing.
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I think the 'signs' are all wrong.

disc's with voices? it's not wagons, try LP's CD's...

Your timetable is a LONG ways's off.

Or it already happened.

Welcome to the NWO, it was suble, and you are already here.
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Maasaw always give ifs and maybes so that we may redeem ourself's and the following may help some.

Start with living simply
Practice self-denial
Practice self-sufficiency
Make careful choices
Recognize together we can save the world
Attitude and application are equal partners
Attitude about life and environment needs to be reverent

Elderly Elder "Dont let the burden of worries trouble you into sickness and let your hears be filled with happiness, enjoy your lives to the fullest, for this is the best medicine for sickness, live long and for there are great and exciting adventures awaiting you." The Hopi Survival Kit pg 368
 Quoting: Enlilson


Where does one find the Hopi Survival kit?

Thanks.
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Re: The ninth and last sign of Hopi prophecy about to come true?
I've always thought these prophecies to be amazing if true. They really do predict the future amazingly well
but.. when did they first appear? I cant help but think they where made up in the seventies or something (like the mother shipton prophecies that were written hundreds of years latter than claimed).
Is there any evidence of them actually being around in the 19th century ?? If not I call shenanigans on the whole thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 351208



No one really knows except the Hopi. I know they started getting serious about spreading their word and prophesies starting around the 50s.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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well every body got to get on the band wagon on this and make a name for themselves. Why not the Hopis?
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The dwelling places in the sky have already come down... I SAW SAW THIS WAY BACK IN 1955 or 56... A BIG BLUE STREAK CAME SAILING DOWN OUT OF THE SKIES OVER WEST-CENTRAL UTAH, LIGHTING UP THE AREA AROUND US LIKE DAYLIGHT. IT EXPLODED BEFORE IT HIT THE GROUND... Then, the government/troops came into the West DEsert and shut it down, keeping everybody out for a week or two, until they had removed the debris?

And hey, what about Roswell, 1947?... And all those other similar incidents around the world?...

There has been a "war" going on in the skies for quite some time now... And the human governments are losing... Jusr wait and see...

But humanity isn't losing...
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well every body got to get on the band wagon on this and make a name for themselves. Why not the Hopis?
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I'm not sure it's served them any benefit, and the tribe definitely doesn't want more attention drawn to them.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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we dont want attention, just money
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What they're describing is essentially the same as the Bible said would happen when Jesus returns to set up his kingdom here on earth... read about it in the Book of Revelation... the description of it sounds like a giant Borg ship... ;)

Very similar to the Hopi prophecy...
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we dont want attention, just money
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we don't need money, just good un-polluted land of our ancestors to grow food and raise our people
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Where does one find the Hopi Survival kit?

Thanks.
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Don't buy it. The author used the book to make a profit for himself by capitalizing on the words of the Hopi people. If you want to learn more about the Hopi, by the book 'Book of the Hopi', by Frank Waters. He worked directly with the Hopi and had their permission to publish everything he did in his book.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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The space station or a space shuttle? Maybe an alien craft like Rosewell?
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"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place

in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It

will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of the

Hopi people will cease."


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Would this not be the New Jerusalem,that God sets up.
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