Boss made an indirect comment about my vax status. Thoughts on proceeding. | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79817565 Australia 07/18/2021 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am one of the few employees left in my place of employment that continues to wear a mask. I continue because as a salaried manager I had to agree to wear one if I did not get the jab. Most employees at my work I know did not get it but dont wear a mask. I was one of the few that had to agree to terms on this. Quoting: JimmyBones I wear it as a badge of honor that I've foregone the shot. My boss made a comment to me because he knows I've decided to abstain. He stated "well my brother is an antivaxxer and antimasker... if he gets the new variant he'll most likely die" He then gave me a stern look. I just sort of looked at him and went about my day. What is my next step. What should I do? I'm looking to get out of this specific job but I've invested 10 years and it helps take care of my family but I can't bite my tongue any longer. Could you just tell him you've been jabbed? Or will he require proof? I'd look for a different job. That's bullshit letting vaxxed be maskless while requiring uncaxxed to be masked. That's even worse than requiring everyone to wear a mask. I would quit on the spot. Imagine if they said whites didn't have to wear masks but blacks had to. Or if straight people didn't have to wear masks but homosexuals had to. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79863586 United States 07/18/2021 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like he is a bit passive-aggressive. Which means probably nothing will come of it, or he would approach you directly with an ultimatum. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73317698 I'm lucky to be working for myself these days, trust me, I am grateful - even if it's a little more frustration. I want to find a way to nail this guys ass to the wall. Sounds like he is a bit passive-aggressive. Which means probably nothing will come of it, or he would approach you directly with an ultimatum. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73317698 I'm lucky to be working for myself these days, trust me, I am grateful - even if it's a little more frustration. I want to find a way to nail this guys ass to the wall. Lawyer up... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79817565 Australia 07/18/2021 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you have an HR department, go to them and tell them your boss is creating a politically charged work environment and it's making you uncomfortable. This may or may not work depending on your type and place of occupation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80392222 Exactly. Imagine all the lawsuits and outcry if they said whites didn't have to wear masks but blacks, Hispanics, and/or Asians had to. Hell the employer would likely go to prison for a hate crime in addition to his/her business being shut down, sued and heavily fined. Yet it's considered perfectly acceptable to discriminate against someone and force them to wear a muzzle because they're unvaxxed. |
AKAllie
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77681837 United States 07/18/2021 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like he is a bit passive-aggressive. Which means probably nothing will come of it, or he would approach you directly with an ultimatum. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73317698 I'm lucky to be working for myself these days, trust me, I am grateful - even if it's a little more frustration. I want to find a way to nail this guys ass to the wall. Wait for the jab to take him away, then move into his position. You are not biting your tongue, you are buying time if this vaccine truly incapacitates its victims. Patience for now? I do his job for him now. He fucking despises me because I know how to do EVERYTHING in our business. He views me as a threat. Fuck him. Maybe your advice is appropriate. Don't even worry about that other guy, finding better work is what's indicated here. It's just the Universe's way of telling you to get a move on. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79165910 United States 07/18/2021 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am one of the few employees left in my place of employment that continues to wear a mask. I continue because as a salaried manager I had to agree to wear one if I did not get the jab. Most employees at my work I know did not get it but dont wear a mask. I was one of the few that had to agree to terms on this. Quoting: JimmyBones I wear it as a badge of honor that I've foregone the shot. My boss made a comment to me because he knows I've decided to abstain. He stated "well my brother is an antivaxxer and antimasker... if he gets the new variant he'll most likely die" He then gave me a stern look. I just sort of looked at him and went about my day. What is my next step. What should I do? I'm looking to get out of this specific job but I've invested 10 years and it helps take care of my family but I can't bite my tongue any longer. sounds like he is trying to bully/shame you into getting the vax. dont take it too personally. he may be having his own doubts now and is trying to alleviate them by going after you. you're an easy target because of the mask, a constant visual reminder that he may have made the wrong choice! |
Whiskey*Tango
User ID: 80592821 United States 07/18/2021 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like he is a bit passive-aggressive. Which means probably nothing will come of it, or he would approach you directly with an ultimatum. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73317698 I'm lucky to be working for myself these days, trust me, I am grateful - even if it's a little more frustration. I want to find a way to nail this guys ass to the wall. Wait for the jab to take him away, then move into his position. You are not biting your tongue, you are buying time if this vaccine truly incapacitates its victims. Patience for now? I do his job for him now. He fucking despises me because I know how to do EVERYTHING in our business. He views me as a threat. Fuck him. Maybe your advice is appropriate. Not sure what field you work in but if the vaxxed start falling ill, we may need you. All the unvaccinated will need to step into positions that are needed. I would however, start quietly looking for a position that would be a move up for you though, God could be nudging you somewhere else. |
Deplorable Zenobia
User ID: 80622157 United States 07/18/2021 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like he is a bit passive-aggressive. Which means probably nothing will come of it, or he would approach you directly with an ultimatum. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73317698 I'm lucky to be working for myself these days, trust me, I am grateful - even if it's a little more frustration. I want to find a way to nail this guys ass to the wall. Prepare an email AND print it out. With links to as many REAL science based stuff showing what a shitshow he's participating in. Show him where CDC and the WHO move the goal posts every single day, flip-flopping. Show him the list of patents from the late '90s pertaining to this shit. Educate the fool. And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm “How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire |
JimmyBones
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73070394 United States 07/18/2021 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sadly, I think your employment was over whenever you had the conversation and agreed to a mask vs a jab. Its just a matter of time and you will be asked to leave. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40546062 Now that you are singled out what do you expect to happen? You can try and hang on but I would have my resume in order. May be time to open that business you always dreamed about OP? Ok but when the vaxxed employees croak ,they will be begging him to come back... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80365283 United States 07/18/2021 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you're concerned about being fired sneakily, talk to a lawyer what to do if anything. Your boss could just say he was concerned about your health with his comment. He might even feel he was, in his mentally screwed up vaxed state. If you were to do anything, it would involve filing something with HR, not discussing the merits of vaxes with your boss. Probably, do nothing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80365283 United States 07/18/2021 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like he is a bit passive-aggressive. Which means probably nothing will come of it, or he would approach you directly with an ultimatum. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73317698 I'm lucky to be working for myself these days, trust me, I am grateful - even if it's a little more frustration. I want to find a way to nail this guys ass to the wall. Wait for the jab to take him away, then move into his position. You are not biting your tongue, you are buying time if this vaccine truly incapacitates its victims. Patience for now? I do his job for him now. He fucking despises me because I know how to do EVERYTHING in our business. He views me as a threat. Fuck him. Maybe your advice is appropriate. Actually sounds like you're relatively secure there. Corporate politics isn't based on being nice and getting along, more like threats and practicality. He needs you. You're probably safe as long as that's true. If he starts training a replacement (this happened to me), start looking, but you'll have time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80563583 United States 07/18/2021 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's an employee job market today. Want a job, you'll have 50 within a week. They aren't firing anyone, even the hospitals that claim this shit, yet aren't firing anyone for NOT getting their shots. I have family that refuse, and they're still working. Simply say that you aren't qualified to get it even if you wanted, medical reasons. Leave it at that. There's zero more to say. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19876247 United States 07/18/2021 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be patient. Resist as long as possible. Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes If he takes the vaccine, he'll eventually succumb to its ill effects like millions of others. Maybe you'll take his job when it's all said and done. Right! Just ask him if you can have his job when he drops dead from the vax in a few months. Then, immediately after you ask: "Lights, cameras, action..." record him going ballistic on you, take the video to his superior, tell him the guy's nuts and you fear for your life... BINGO! You get his job BEFORE he croaks! Make sure there are witnesses Say your part quietly and controlled Make sure he tells his response |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80612709 United States 07/18/2021 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am one of the few employees left in my place of employment that continues to wear a mask. I continue because as a salaried manager I had to agree to wear one if I did not get the jab. Most employees at my work I know did not get it but dont wear a mask. I was one of the few that had to agree to terms on this. Quoting: JimmyBones I wear it as a badge of honor that I've foregone the shot. My boss made a comment to me because he knows I've decided to abstain. He stated "well my brother is an antivaxxer and antimasker... if he gets the new variant he'll most likely die" He then gave me a stern look. I just sort of looked at him and went about my day. What is my next step. What should I do? I'm looking to get out of this specific job but I've invested 10 years and it helps take care of my family but I can't bite my tongue any longer. Did your boss physically threaten you? Did your boss imply he would terminate you? He is living in fear. He is just venting. I don't know if you feel threatened or why, or just uncomfortable with the atmosphere. You are promised comfort. You are dealing with other humans. I wouldn't make such a bit deal out of it. Ask if they are satisfied with your work. Say something like you appreciate his concern for his brother and you, and that decisions have consequences, and you are prepared and comfortable with the decisions you have made and that you have no fear of death. You can throw factual data out at him until the cows come home and it wouldn't matter. |
Corporal Punishment
User ID: 24262777 United States 07/18/2021 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a tight labor market. Don’t put up with BS. |
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Crypto-Tard
User ID: 78144147 United States 07/19/2021 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like he is a bit passive-aggressive. Which means probably nothing will come of it, or he would approach you directly with an ultimatum. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73317698 I'm lucky to be working for myself these days, trust me, I am grateful - even if it's a little more frustration. I want to find a way to nail this guys ass to the wall. Get a good lawyer, then plan it all out carefully. Many laws support unvaxxed. When you are afraid of losing your life, you have already lost your life. Don't be afraid. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80314416 United States 07/19/2021 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am one of the few employees left in my place of employment that continues to wear a mask. I continue because as a salaried manager I had to agree to wear one if I did not get the jab. Most employees at my work I know did not get it but dont wear a mask. I was one of the few that had to agree to terms on this. Quoting: JimmyBones I wear it as a badge of honor that I've foregone the shot. My boss made a comment to me because he knows I've decided to abstain. He stated "well my brother is an antivaxxer and antimasker... if he gets the new variant he'll most likely die" He then gave me a stern look. I just sort of looked at him and went about my day. What is my next step. What should I do? I'm looking to get out of this specific job but I've invested 10 years and it helps take care of my family but I can't bite my tongue any longer. Not sure there is anything you can do legally. It's not sexual harassment and employers aren't bound by HIPAA. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77440428 United States 07/19/2021 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With that in mind, take a careful inventory of the job itself. All the facets - money, benefits, retirement plan, company culture, opportunities for advancement, location, co-workers, opportunities for advancement, and anything else. Do some deep thinking about whether you really want to be working there or not. What does your gut instinct tell you? Weigh these items carefully before making a decision, and make sure you have another job offer om hand before you start making waves with HR, Legal, or anyone else. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78363501 United States 07/19/2021 02:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't engage other than maybe say you spent much time assessing the risk/benefits of the shot and arrived at this conclusion and that you'd be happy to share the information with him to better understand. Don't get snippy with him, though. Is he the owner, or just the cog above you in a bigger company? |
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