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T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 78270630 Netherlands 01/11/2022 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hahaha The XLS-20d proposal introduces extensions to the XRP Ledger that would support a native NFT type, along with operations to enumerate, transfer and hold such tokens. yea i saw the link after i posted that :D its their NFT place thats supposed to take over the current market. Me personally i literally cringe when i hear the term NFT and people thinking others should want to own a 16 bit drawing of an ape... i literally dont understand humanity sometimes look at this stupid shhh |
Vision Thing
User ID: 81777431 United States 01/11/2022 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its their NFT place thats supposed to take over the current market. Quoting: T-Man Me personally i literally cringe when i hear the term NFT and people thinking others should want to own a 16 bit drawing of an ape... i literally dont understand humanity sometimes I think there's more to it than we see on the surface. Aside from the future use case of the technology for things like deeds to properties, stock certificates, etc., there's this other aspect I've been thinking about. Say you have a buddy who does plumbing work. And you ask him to come over and run some pipes to the second bathroom you're installing in your remodel (or perhaps a bigger job would be a better example). You say, if I write you a check, or even technically if I pay you in cash, I'm supposed to issue a 1099 and you're supposed to be liable for Self Employment Tax. But what if you say, you do the plumbing work on the Q.T. and I'll purchase your artwork NFT from you at whatever price you set that would be equal to the job - sshhhhh. This would be an entirely different type of transaction than paying for someone's labor and time. We should all be thinking about ways to use an "art" designation to define our activities and actions. For now "art" exists largely outside of regulation. We really don't have artpolice - yet. Thinking this over again - the above example does not have to be an NFT. The NFT would be handy at a distance. What if your buddy has a hobby of drawing little pictures on little pieces of paper, and you decide you like one of them, and you decide one of them is worth 800 bucks to you, and you buy his little drawing, pay him cash in a purchase transaction, not a vendor or labor transaction, but more like you went to a garage sale and bought an old framed picture secondhand, you know? Just thinking out loud here. Last Edited by Vision Thing on 01/11/2022 03:55 PM |
T-Man
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T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 78270630 Netherlands 01/11/2022 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its their NFT place thats supposed to take over the current market. Quoting: T-Man Me personally i literally cringe when i hear the term NFT and people thinking others should want to own a 16 bit drawing of an ape... i literally dont understand humanity sometimes I think there's more to it than we see on the surface. Aside from the future use case of the technology for things like deeds to properties, stock certificates, etc., there's this other aspect I've been thinking about. Say you have a buddy who does plumbing work. And you ask him to come over and run some pipes to the second bathroom you're installing in your remodel (or perhaps a bigger job would be a better example). You say, if I write you a check, or even technically if I pay you in cash, I'm supposed to issue a 1099 and you're supposed to be liable for Self Employment Tax. But what if you say, you do the plumbing work on the Q.T. and I'll purchase your artwork NFT from you at whatever price you set that would be equal to the job - sshhhhh. This would be an entirely different type of transaction than paying for someone's labor and time. We should all be thinking about ways to use an "art" designation to define our activities and actions. For now "art" exists largely outside of regulation. We really don't have artpolice - yet. i do see future uses. i mean cant this pretty much be used to stop pirating? for music and media etc? but what you just explained to me is pretty much what i was thinking about the situation right now. a lot of hype and some shady stuff and its new. so it makes sense. and i 10000000% understand people hopping on to make money, i mean thats a no brainer. i was wondering about the people that pay those large sums tho. |
Vision Thing
User ID: 81777431 United States 01/11/2022 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | btw im sorry for the way i sometimes talk. i just let my thoughts out because that usually gets the best replies that make me see things in the way others do it. Quoting: T-Man No disrespect!!! im working on it... i know its bad and im sorry The artwork itself in a lot of the popular NFTs that we see is beyond atrocious, but in the big picture if you back up to a 30,000 ft birds eye view, there's a lot more going on than meets the eye. For me I think it's this: By now everyone knows that the current worldwide traditional art market has been entirely compromised and corrupted to its core for many decades if not centuries. Nothing about the current global modern art market has anything to do with artistic merit, talent, skill or even appeal. The values are all assigned falsely based on fake money laundering and global black ops political power moves. The trade in paintings and other antiques and works of art is a cover for human trafficking, drug running and weapons sales, and worse. I think the sale of artwork as NFTs might be a way for the little guy to take advantage of the freedom of the "art market" and how it exists outside of regulation (for a reason!). I could go on but . . . it's just something to think about. |
T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 78270630 Netherlands 01/11/2022 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | btw im sorry for the way i sometimes talk. i just let my thoughts out because that usually gets the best replies that make me see things in the way others do it. Quoting: T-Man No disrespect!!! im working on it... i know its bad and im sorry The artwork itself in a lot of the popular NFTs that we see is beyond atrocious, but in the big picture if you back up to a 30,000 ft birds eye view, there's a lot more going on than meets the eye. For me I think it's this: By now everyone knows that the current worldwide traditional art market has been entirely compromised and corrupted to its core for many decades if not centuries. Nothing about the current global modern art market has anything to do with artistic merit, talent, skill or even appeal. The values are all assigned falsely based on fake money laundering and global black ops political power moves. The trade in paintings and other antiques and works of art is a cover for human trafficking, drug running and weapons sales, and worse. I think the sale of artwork as NFTs might be a way for the little guy to take advantage of the freedom of the "art market" and how it exists outside of regulation (for a reason!). I could go on but . . . it's just something to think about. Extremely interesting. Because when i think of art.. i think of a museum and old paintings, but indeed theres so much more these days to art. Like that photo of the river thats like 100+ million etc Thanks a lot!!! |
T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 78270630 Netherlands 01/11/2022 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just feel bad because i remember someone in this thread made NFTs and i looked at them and liked them and im in no way talking about people like that. but theres just something about it right now thats so weird to me... rappers making NFT's and selling them for hundreds of thousands etc. if something doesnt make sense to me it just keeps eating until i get it. lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80002697 United States 01/11/2022 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just feel bad because i remember someone in this thread made NFTs and i looked at them and liked them and im in no way talking about people like that. Quoting: T-Man but theres just something about it right now thats so weird to me... rappers making NFT's and selling them for hundreds of thousands etc. if something doesnt make sense to me it just keeps eating until i get it. lol How much for a digital pet rock? ------ |
Vision Thing
User ID: 81777431 United States 01/11/2022 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just feel bad because i remember someone in this thread made NFTs and i looked at them and liked them and im in no way talking about people like that. Quoting: T-Man but theres just something about it right now thats so weird to me... rappers making NFT's and selling them for hundreds of thousands etc. if something doesnt make sense to me it just keeps eating until i get it. lol How much for a digital pet rock? ------ How much money could you launder selling digital pet rocks? How much money could you launder selling antique pottery and old master paintings - but, more likely - modern art paintings and sculpture that are mere stand ins with a dual purpose of both a token that can be bought and sold across international borders for ridiculous amounts of money with no one batting an eye, but simultaneously a slap in the face and a vehicle to degrade culture and aspiration and drag everything aesthetic down below the lowest common denominator. Miles W Mathis is a great writer for essays about how the entire modern art market with people selling blank canvases and piles of trash for millions, is a total corrupt hoax that is contributing to the destruction of our history and civilisation. |
T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 78270630 Netherlands 01/11/2022 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just feel bad because i remember someone in this thread made NFTs and i looked at them and liked them and im in no way talking about people like that. Quoting: T-Man but theres just something about it right now thats so weird to me... rappers making NFT's and selling them for hundreds of thousands etc. if something doesnt make sense to me it just keeps eating until i get it. lol How much for a digital pet rock? ------ possibly genius! just wait a few years and see what crazy viral stuff people come up with. i still remember the million dollar website... so simple. so cool. if only we had thought of it first.. haha or the 'im rich' app on iphones another superior idea from the past |
AxX
User ID: 75450217 United States 01/11/2022 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its their NFT place thats supposed to take over the current market. Quoting: T-Man Me personally i literally cringe when i hear the term NFT and people thinking others should want to own a 16 bit drawing of an ape... i literally dont understand humanity sometimes I think there's more to it than we see on the surface. Aside from the future use case of the technology for things like deeds to properties, stock certificates, etc., there's this other aspect I've been thinking about. Say you have a buddy who does plumbing work. And you ask him to come over and run some pipes to the second bathroom you're installing in your remodel (or perhaps a bigger job would be a better example). You say, if I write you a check, or even technically if I pay you in cash, I'm supposed to issue a 1099 and you're supposed to be liable for Self Employment Tax. But what if you say, you do the plumbing work on the Q.T. and I'll purchase your artwork NFT from you at whatever price you set that would be equal to the job - sshhhhh. This would be an entirely different type of transaction than paying for someone's labor and time. We should all be thinking about ways to use an "art" designation to define our activities and actions. For now "art" exists largely outside of regulation. We really don't have artpolice - yet. Thinking this over again - the above example does not have to be an NFT. The NFT would be handy at a distance. What if your buddy has a hobby of drawing little pictures on little pieces of paper, and you decide you like one of them, and you decide one of them is worth 800 bucks to you, and you buy his little drawing, pay him cash in a purchase transaction, not a vendor or labor transaction, but more like you went to a garage sale and bought an old framed picture secondhand, you know? Just thinking out loud here. Yep! This is a work-around. Like paying a hooker for sex. Oh wait. You can't do that. THAT is illegal. So, you videotape your session, then you BUY THE TAPE from the hooker for the same amount of money. You did NOT pay for sex, you paid for the recording of your fun session. Maybe it's not a tape... Maybe it's a sharpened No.2 Pencil that you buy from the poor girl for $200. Now? Maybe it's not a sextape or a pencil.... It's just a stupid 16-bit Ape NFT. That being said, 16-bit Ape NFTs are really stupid. You can put 3D art, music, book text, almost anything on an NFT and when you buy it, ALL pieces become yours. I think it's at it's infancy and will mutate a few more times before mass adoption takes place. Just my 0.00000002 XRP. Energy flows where focus goes. [25/77/19] Rev 3:9 <-- Wonder who these guys are? “The future’s uncertain and The End is always near!” - Jim Morrison, 1970 |
T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 78270630 Netherlands 01/11/2022 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just feel bad because i remember someone in this thread made NFTs and i looked at them and liked them and im in no way talking about people like that. Quoting: T-Man but theres just something about it right now thats so weird to me... rappers making NFT's and selling them for hundreds of thousands etc. if something doesnt make sense to me it just keeps eating until i get it. lol How much for a digital pet rock? ------ How much money could you launder selling digital pet rocks? How much money could you launder selling antique pottery and old master paintings - but, more likely - modern art paintings and sculpture that are mere stand ins with a dual purpose of both a token that can be bought and sold across international borders for ridiculous amounts of money with no one batting an eye, but simultaneously a slap in the face and a vehicle to degrade culture and aspiration and drag everything aesthetic down below the lowest common denominator. Miles W Mathis is a great writer for essays about how the entire modern art market with people selling blank canvases and piles of trash for millions, is a total corrupt hoax that is contributing to the destruction of our history and civilisation. One of the coolest / most interesting things ive read on here in a while. Actual GLP content too. I will look up this MW Mathis |
T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 78270630 Netherlands 01/11/2022 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its their NFT place thats supposed to take over the current market. Quoting: T-Man Me personally i literally cringe when i hear the term NFT and people thinking others should want to own a 16 bit drawing of an ape... i literally dont understand humanity sometimes I think there's more to it than we see on the surface. Aside from the future use case of the technology for things like deeds to properties, stock certificates, etc., there's this other aspect I've been thinking about. Say you have a buddy who does plumbing work. And you ask him to come over and run some pipes to the second bathroom you're installing in your remodel (or perhaps a bigger job would be a better example). You say, if I write you a check, or even technically if I pay you in cash, I'm supposed to issue a 1099 and you're supposed to be liable for Self Employment Tax. But what if you say, you do the plumbing work on the Q.T. and I'll purchase your artwork NFT from you at whatever price you set that would be equal to the job - sshhhhh. This would be an entirely different type of transaction than paying for someone's labor and time. We should all be thinking about ways to use an "art" designation to define our activities and actions. For now "art" exists largely outside of regulation. We really don't have artpolice - yet. Thinking this over again - the above example does not have to be an NFT. The NFT would be handy at a distance. What if your buddy has a hobby of drawing little pictures on little pieces of paper, and you decide you like one of them, and you decide one of them is worth 800 bucks to you, and you buy his little drawing, pay him cash in a purchase transaction, not a vendor or labor transaction, but more like you went to a garage sale and bought an old framed picture secondhand, you know? Just thinking out loud here. Yep! This is a work-around. Like paying a hooker for sex. Oh wait. You can't do that. THAT is illegal. So, you videotape your session, then you BUY THE TAPE from the hooker for the same amount of money. You did NOT pay for sex, you paid for the recording of your fun session. Maybe it's not a tape... Maybe it's a sharpened No.2 Pencil that you buy from the poor girl for $200. Now? Maybe it's not a sextape or a pencil.... It's just a stupid 16-bit Ape NFT. That being said, 16-bit Ape NFTs are really stupid. You can put 3D art, music, book text, almost anything on an NFT and when you buy it, ALL pieces become yours. I think it's at it's infancy and will mutate a few more times before mass adoption takes place. Just my 0.00000002 XRP. ahh THANK YOU as i read what youre saying im already thinking about how maybe, just maybe, those APEs will actually be art that reminds us of the start of the NFT era, 50 years from now. who knows?! surely i dont know what art is. im still surprised a simple box logo hoodie (supreme) can cost over $1000. But then i realize.. people pay that, because they can, and others cant. and why wouldnt it be the same for paint art?! urgh.. yes. this time i did actually smoke hehehehe edit: LOL @ that last comment million $ XRP huh? Last Edited by T-Man on 01/11/2022 04:32 PM |
AxX
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Vision Thing
User ID: 81777431 United States 01/11/2022 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Miles W Mathis is so much more than this, but here is a basic essay on the modern art market "I would like to file a suspicious transactions report on the entire 20th century" PDF [link to mileswmathis.com] PDF |
T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 78270630 Netherlands 01/11/2022 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Miles W Mathis is so much more than this, but here is a basic essay on the modern art market Quoting: Vision Thing "I would like to file a suspicious transactions report on the entire 20th century" PDF [link to mileswmathis.com] PDF |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80736467 United States 01/11/2022 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In two Mondays (1/24/22), it looks like some big names are getting together: Quoting: AxX [link to twitter.com (secure)] https://twitter.com/_/status/1478327655170777088 Reads like a lineup for a prison game of spades. Unreal. |
T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 78270630 Netherlands 01/11/2022 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Miles W Mathis is so much more than this, but here is a basic essay on the modern art market Quoting: Vision Thing "I would like to file a suspicious transactions report on the entire 20th century" PDF [link to mileswmathis.com] PDF wow, this reminds me of what just recently happened here. at that time it was the owners name that was remarkable to me. Now its even more interesting... [link to www.iamexpat.nl (secure)] accepted by the Rothschild family. 150 million euros has been allocated to fund the purchase. paid for by the state btw. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80073096 United States 01/11/2022 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow, this reminds me of what just recently happened here. Quoting: T-Man at that time it was the owners name that was remarkable to me. Now its even more interesting... [link to www.iamexpat.nl (secure)] accepted by the Rothschild family. 150 million euros has been allocated to fund the purchase. paid for by the state btw. Rembrandt painted business cards, did you know that? this might be one... [link to www.liveauctioneers.com (secure)] |
T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 78270630 Netherlands 01/11/2022 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow, this reminds me of what just recently happened here. Quoting: T-Man at that time it was the owners name that was remarkable to me. Now its even more interesting... [link to www.iamexpat.nl (secure)] accepted by the Rothschild family. 150 million euros has been allocated to fund the purchase. paid for by the state btw. Rembrandt painted business cards, did you know that? this might be one... [link to www.liveauctioneers.com (secure)] urgh you and your cool art links!!! now i want to buy this. you had me feeling like this before too 350$?!?! for a rembrandt?!?! imagine me selling it to the dutch state for more LOL jk its pretty big too. this is worth the money, in my opinion, compared to nft. This is old and has a story etc. grrrr so cool!! |
T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 78270630 Netherlands 01/11/2022 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow, this reminds me of what just recently happened here. Quoting: T-Man at that time it was the owners name that was remarkable to me. Now its even more interesting... [link to www.iamexpat.nl (secure)] accepted by the Rothschild family. 150 million euros has been allocated to fund the purchase. paid for by the state btw. Rembrandt painted business cards, did you know that? this might be one... [link to www.liveauctioneers.com (secure)] i had this one open in my tabs until it was sold. lol [link to www.liveauctioneers.com (secure)] See this is why we need XRP to moon. haha https://imgur.com/f8y4bMI Last Edited by T-Man on 01/11/2022 05:33 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80073096 United States 01/11/2022 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | urgh you and your cool art links!!! Quoting: T-Man now i want to buy this. you had me feeling like this before too 350$?!?! for a rembrandt?!?! imagine me selling it to the dutch state for more LOL jk its pretty big too. this is worth the money, in my opinion, compared to nft. This is old and has a story etc. grrrr so cool!! It's tiny, imo. But nice blue. Colors are popping. There is a story about the Rembrandt specialist who re-evaluated tons of "Rembrandt's" to be fake or "of the school"..guess he's dead now. Lots of Rembrandt's will be resurfacing. There is also the story of Europeans smuggling Rembrandt's and other master works out of Eur by painting over them. Yep, made them look really dumb for WW2 customs. So, no worries about getting that ugly Rembrandt cleaned...ya never know. Good luck! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80073096 United States 01/11/2022 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i had this one open in my tabs until it was sold. lol Quoting: T-Man [link to www.liveauctioneers.com (secure)] See this is why we need XRP to moon. haha Recreate the painting by purchasing the chairs, table cloth, artwork, etc. lol |
T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 78270630 Netherlands 01/11/2022 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i had this one open in my tabs until it was sold. lol Quoting: T-Man [link to www.liveauctioneers.com (secure)] See this is why we need XRP to moon. haha Recreate the painting by purchasing the chairs, table cloth, artwork, etc. lol hahaha yes. if only the artwork in the back was actually a thing. that would be cool in an inception type of way. somehow i get the feeling those tiles on the floor are impossible to recreate. something about those is tripping me out. maybe the fact that they are ehh not vertical or horizontal but ehh what would you call that?! turned 45 degrees? who does that? look at these against the wall https://imgur.com/9aKYrKN |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80073096 United States 01/11/2022 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yee of little faith...just needs scrubbing off pipe tobacco smoke. [link to www.liveauctioneers.com (secure)] hahaha or maybe it was his own artwork as well?? [link to www.liveauctioneers.com (secure)] Tiles are perhaps wrapping exterior of a staircase rotunda? |
T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 78270630 Netherlands 01/11/2022 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yee of little faith...just needs scrubbing off pipe tobacco smoke. [link to www.liveauctioneers.com (secure)] hahaha or maybe it was his own artwork as well?? [link to www.liveauctioneers.com (secure)] Tiles are perhaps wrapping exterior of a staircase rotunda? Hah!! Crazy how similar those are. Very well done!! Both sold tho :P wow this one is sooo similar an its not his work. which is extra cool [link to www.liveauctioneers.com (secure)] |
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T-Man
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Abe Froman
User ID: 79188317 Canada 01/11/2022 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just feel bad because i remember someone in this thread made NFTs and i looked at them and liked them and im in no way talking about people like that. Quoting: T-Man but theres just something about it right now thats so weird to me... rappers making NFT's and selling them for hundreds of thousands etc. if something doesnt make sense to me it just keeps eating until i get it. lol How much for a digital pet rock? ------ XRPetRock Just design a rock. Make different faces on them. It's the same image with different variations. That seems to be the trend. Most of those xrpl NFTs are complete shit to look at. To me, it's like Pokemon cards. Crap |
H41F-b-R33D
User ID: 77936145 Australia 01/11/2022 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hahaha yes. if only the artwork in the back was actually a thing. that would be cool in an inception type of way. somehow i get the feeling those tiles on the floor are impossible to recreate. something about those is tripping me out. maybe the fact that they are ehh not vertical or horizontal but ehh what would you call that?! turned 45 degrees? who does that? look at these against the wall https://imgur.com/9aKYrKN 33 Degrees. https://imgur.com/a/inP9IR5 If life is so fair why do roses have thorns? |