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Samguy
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82034248 Canada 05/27/2022 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Governments will have their own ledger. They're not gonna make you billionairs because they are too lazy to create their own coin. It's all open source Governments will have their own CBDC's which will be interoperable with XRP as the Neutral Intermediary. They cant pick one country to have their money as the reserve asset anymore because they want to build a level playing field for the world. Nobody is becoming a billionaire unless they put loads of money into XRP. Most people dont even have 10k XRP If you had 10k XRP you would be in the top 4% of holders. Here's the thing: -banks do not trust one another. Bank A will not use Bank B's coin, and there are a heap of legal issues in the way too. -They leave trillions of dollars in go between accounts (nostro vostro) in order to settle transactions, which takes days & is very error prone- 6% of transactions do not even arrive. 'SWIFT' cannot accommodate payments in this digital age, plus the political issue other countries hate using it etc. -So they need a trustless, permission less go between all the different CBDC's, currencies, etc. To account for human greed, a computer does a much better job than a middleman who makes huge bucks on transaction fees$$ Here's a big hint. Why do XRP , XLM, XDC start with X ? |
T-Man
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zzbudzz
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zzbudzz
User ID: 80148118 United States 05/28/2022 06:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Proud owner of 161 xlm, waiting for the one time 72 hr hold before sending to the atomic wallet I have setup. Watched the video from your page VT. I'm getting there. Quoting: Samguy That's only 20 bucks worth! You gotta pump those number up!! I have over 6k and that's not much really, only around 700 bucks now. :( Hell, I'm gonna go right now and buy some more. Last Edited by zzbudzz on 05/28/2022 06:28 AM Banned often |
T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 47885652 Netherlands 05/28/2022 06:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Proud owner of 161 xlm, waiting for the one time 72 hr hold before sending to the atomic wallet I have setup. Watched the video from your page VT. I'm getting there. Quoting: Samguy That's only 20 bucks worth! You gotta pump those number up!! I have over 6k and that's not much really, only around 700 bucks now. :( its his very first time getting XRP in the weird way it has to be done in America. plus we dont know how much others can spend. Sams rocking with the XRP gang soon |
zzbudzz
User ID: 80148118 United States 05/28/2022 06:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Proud owner of 161 xlm, waiting for the one time 72 hr hold before sending to the atomic wallet I have setup. Watched the video from your page VT. I'm getting there. Quoting: Samguy That's only 20 bucks worth! You gotta pump those number up!! I have over 6k and that's not much really, only around 700 bucks now. :( its his very first time getting XRP in the weird way it has to be done in America. plus we dont know how much others can spend. Sams rocking with the XRP gang soon I was just kidding. We all started somewhere. Hell, in early 2019 I saw a post on here of someone telling us to buy XLM and XRP and he explained why we should buy it. So, I figured out how to get on an exchange and buy some . I bought XLM at .08 and XRP at .20? I believe his name was SGT. something. Banned often |
T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 47885652 Netherlands 05/28/2022 06:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's only 20 bucks worth! You gotta pump those number up!! I have over 6k and that's not much really, only around 700 bucks now. :( its his very first time getting XRP in the weird way it has to be done in America. plus we dont know how much others can spend. Sams rocking with the XRP gang soon I was just kidding. We all started somewhere. Hell, in early 2019 I saw a post on here of someone telling us to buy XLM and XRP and he explained why we should buy it. So, I figured out how to get on an exchange and buy some . I bought XLM at .08 and XRP at .20? I believe his name was SGT. something. yea i dont remember when but the same thing kinda happened to me. got in at .25ish i think but obviously paid higher prices later on 4% gang |
Samguy
User ID: 80444760 United States 05/28/2022 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the to start off the day T-Man! Next, I need to get a fireproof secure box for storing everything. Any suggestions for buying in the states? Got the faraday bag, tested it. Last Edited by Samguy on 05/28/2022 10:45 AM Samguy |
T-Man
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75169648 05/28/2022 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know the crypto is not actually stored in the device itself? The crypto is on its respective network in cyberspace. Yea, you own the keys to the trustline But there is literally no difference from putting your crypto on a cold wallet and say for example XUMM wallet that you can access via an application on your smart phone You own the keys to the trustline and say something happens to the device, you just get a new device and access the trustline with your keys The idea of self custody is sort of misleading. You own the keys but its still on whatever network Stop listening to these idiots on youtube that are monetizing your paranoia |
T-Man
Entitled title User ID: 47885652 Netherlands 05/28/2022 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys are so paranoid with your cold wallets and faraday bags lol Quoting: Crypto Monk You know the crypto is not actually stored in the device itself? The crypto is on its respective network in cyberspace. Yea, you own the keys to the trustline But there is literally no difference from putting your crypto on a cold wallet and say for example XUMM wallet that you can access via an application on your smart phone You own the keys to the trustline and say something happens to the device, you just get a new device and access the trustline with your keys The idea of self custody is sort of misleading. You own the keys but its still on whatever network Stop listening to these idiots on youtube that are monetizing your paranoia you pretty much agree that cold storage or xumm is better than having it on a public platform that could just stop you from trading, accessing or moving your crypto tho? |
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Vision Thing
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nemo_solus
User ID: 78756435 Moldova 05/28/2022 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://imgur.com/a/FMDSyR5 They have a point, we are below the long term VWAP prices, so it is possibly not a bad accumulation price, but if you believe the crypto market is likely to fall further still (say ~25%), the POC for the Volume Profile at around ~0.29$ is likely a better spot. The risk is that if the SEC case gets suddenly settled, will the price come back down to even the present prices again? Last Edited by nemo_solus on 05/28/2022 02:04 PM |
nemo_solus
User ID: 78756435 Moldova 05/28/2022 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in the top 4% of XRP holders. I have a nice bag of XLM as well. So, It probably won't do shit since I own it. Quoting: zzbudzz Aw now, don't be so gloomy on us. The sec hasn't been humiliated yet. I'm hoping for more than simple humiliation for the SEC in this instance: Conan has the right idea of what is best: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81669102 United States 05/28/2022 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys are so paranoid with your cold wallets and faraday bags lol Quoting: Crypto Monk You know the crypto is not actually stored in the device itself? The crypto is on its respective network in cyberspace. Yea, you own the keys to the trustline But there is literally no difference from putting your crypto on a cold wallet and say for example XUMM wallet that you can access via an application on your smart phone You own the keys to the trustline and say something happens to the device, you just get a new device and access the trustline with your keys The idea of self custody is sort of misleading. You own the keys but its still on whatever network Stop listening to these idiots on youtube that are monetizing your paranoia you pretty much agree that cold storage or xumm is better than having it on a public platform that could just stop you from trading, accessing or moving your crypto tho? absolutely. get if off the exchanges. If the exchange goes bankrupt then they will designate YOU as a creditor and they will take your crypto. but my argument was for example, on your Ledger cold wallet you have 10 XRP. The 10 XRP are not actually "inside" the Ledger cold wallet device. The XRP is still on the XRP Ledger (XRPL) It is the same thing as having a XUMM wallet on a tablet or phone. You own the keys to the trust line. You are just using different custodial mediums. XUMM is free. That being said if your phone breaks or your Ledger gets fried all you have to do is get a new phone or a new ledger. and with your keys you can access your trust line on the XRPL on the new device I am not dismissing an EMP style event that would fry all electronics but it is unlikely and if it were a military style operation it would be tactical on specific areas. Not an entire country at a time. And even if it did happen your XRP is in cyberspace so you only need to worry about your keys The fearmongerers want you to buy a faraday bag as long as you "click the link" they provide and get a percentage The XRPL is safe. There are nodes in nuclear bunkers. |
Samguy
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Samguy
User ID: 80517967 United States 05/28/2022 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys are so paranoid with your cold wallets and faraday bags lol Quoting: Crypto Monk You know the crypto is not actually stored in the device itself? The crypto is on its respective network in cyberspace. Yea, you own the keys to the trustline But there is literally no difference from putting your crypto on a cold wallet and say for example XUMM wallet that you can access via an application on your smart phone You own the keys to the trustline and say something happens to the device, you just get a new device and access the trustline with your keys The idea of self custody is sort of misleading. You own the keys but its still on whatever network Stop listening to these idiots on youtube that are monetizing your paranoia I do know it is the private keys, not the actual asset. Is not protecting the private keys tantamount? "You own the keys to the trustline and say something happens to the device, you just get a new device and access the trustline with your keys" Not sure I follow. You're saying the private keys are stored in your account/wallet and are accessible for recovery? Last Edited by Samguy on 05/28/2022 02:44 PM Samguy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82154391 United States 05/28/2022 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys are so paranoid with your cold wallets and faraday bags lol Quoting: Crypto Monk You know the crypto is not actually stored in the device itself? The crypto is on its respective network in cyberspace. Yea, you own the keys to the trustline But there is literally no difference from putting your crypto on a cold wallet and say for example XUMM wallet that you can access via an application on your smart phone You own the keys to the trustline and say something happens to the device, you just get a new device and access the trustline with your keys The idea of self custody is sort of misleading. You own the keys but its still on whatever network Stop listening to these idiots on youtube that are monetizing your paranoia I do know it is the private keys, not the actual asset. Is not protecting the private keys tantamount? "You own the keys to the trustline and say something happens to the device, you just get a new device and access the trustline with your keys" Not sure I follow. You're saying the private keys are stored in your account/wallet and are accessible for recovery? No the keys or the seed phrases … should be established when you set up your wallet And you physically hold your keys. Put your keys in a vault if anything The crypto is not technically stored inside the device. The crypto for example if it is XRP, the XRP you own is on the XRP ledger not the device it self The device is no different than XUMM wallet or Coinbase wallet. They all give you the keys to wallet. Personally and this is strictly my opinion, but I think that the Ledger is taking a chance of an additional point of failure. I do not trust it and I have learned of Ledger wallets being hacked. Let me reiterate that, is just an opinion. Do your own due diligence |
Samguy
User ID: 80517967 United States 05/28/2022 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No the keys or the seed phrases … should be established when you set up your wallet Quoting: Crypto Monk And you physically hold your keys. Put your keys in a vault if anything The crypto is not technically stored inside the device. The crypto for example if it is XRP, the XRP you own is on the XRP ledger not the device it self The device is no different than XUMM wallet or Coinbase wallet. They all give you the keys to wallet. Personally and this is strictly my opinion, but I think that the Ledger is taking a chance of an additional point of failure. I do not trust it and I have learned of Ledger wallets being hacked. Let me reiterate that, is just an opinion. Do your own due diligence I am hesitant to start asking you more questions, would rather others here try to flush this out. But.. You are saying that Ledger/nano is more vulnerable than just keeping a cold XUMM or Coinbase wallet? Only way I have heard of nano being hacked is if device was purchased through a 3rd party. Are you saying the Ledger network is possibly insecure or the nano? Keep your private keys in a physical vault how? (excuse my newbness, trying to learn) Most secure way to store and protect XRP, etc. assets is how? Last Edited by Samguy on 05/28/2022 04:23 PM Samguy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80622216 Brazil 05/28/2022 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No the keys or the seed phrases … should be established when you set up your wallet Quoting: Crypto Monk And you physically hold your keys. Put your keys in a vault if anything The crypto is not technically stored inside the device. The crypto for example if it is XRP, the XRP you own is on the XRP ledger not the device it self The device is no different than XUMM wallet or Coinbase wallet. They all give you the keys to wallet. Personally and this is strictly my opinion, but I think that the Ledger is taking a chance of an additional point of failure. I do not trust it and I have learned of Ledger wallets being hacked. Let me reiterate that, is just an opinion. Do your own due diligence I am hesitant to start asking you more questions, would rather others here try to flush this out. But.. You are saying that Ledger/nano is more vulnerable than just keeping a cold XUMM or Coinbase wallet? Only way I have heard of nano being hacked is if device was purchased through a 3rd party. Are you saying the Ledger network is possibly insecure or the nano? Keep your private keys in a physical vault how? (excuse my newbness, trying to learn) Most secure way to store and protect XRP, etc. assets is how? Write your keys on a piece of paper put it in a vault And about the ledger that is strictly my opinion, there is just something I don’t trust about it. Personally, I prefer the XUMM wallet. I know Ripple personnel use XUMM Why would the place that you purchased the Ledger matter? If you buy it at Best Buy, they buy it from Ledger first, in bulk for cheap and then sell them to your for market value. |
Vision Thing
User ID: 82977305 United States 05/28/2022 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a good conversation to have. Does everyone know that your private keys are the "seed phrase" to your wallet. It's a set of 12 or 24 words or in XUMM case a sequence of numbers You write those down very, very carefully on a piece of stiff paper and put the paper in a ziploc bag Make 2 copies put them in 2 safe places I have one set of copies in a safe deposit box at the bank you never take a picture of it with your phone you don't send it in an email or a text you don't store it in your computer only physically write it down and put it somewhere safe. You can recover your wallet with that seed phrase Even if you lose the device in the bottom of a lake I included 3 videos in the page I made And in those videos from Crazy4Cryptos It's explained very clearly [link to start.me (secure)] It's only 3 short videos on that page But they are about security and wallet setups I wouldn't know this stuff if it wasn't for Digital Dave, Crazy4Cryptos I put a lot of work into that page, it answers a lot of questions |
Vision Thing
User ID: 82977305 United States 05/28/2022 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Not your keys, not your crypto" That's why we say Get your crypto off the exchanges And into self-custody Under private keys There are so many different private custody wallets I probably have 10 different ones I really prefer a desktop version of a wallet Rather than having a phone app But I have many phone app wallets My main wallets that have served me well were Atomic Desktop Wallets on a dedicated laptop They are easy to use and the built in swap function allows you to trade for many different cryptos including XRP The point of suggesting Atomic Is that you can send XLM to it, and swap it for XRP It's an EASY WAY TO GET XRP After you get the XRP You can send it wherever you want But you have to get it first You can send it to XUMM But you have to have it to send it there It's just easy to send XLM to Atomic to swap for XRP in the wallet There are a hundred different ways to do it I outlined one that I have used that I know works. I really hope this helps someone [link to start.me (secure)] I don't mean to post it over and over But maybe someone will actually click in it and watch the videos and follow the careful step by step instructions I made, if they want to get some XRP and hold it I am writing all this out for everyone who stumbles on this thread Crypto is very mysterious We had some long threads on GLP a couple of years ago that really helped me But I also paid for memberships in platforms where mentors were helping people and it was totally worth it |
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Vision Thing
User ID: 82977305 United States 05/28/2022 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a seed phrase for Atomic but about 10 different cryptos there, if Atomic goes the way of the dodo does this one seed phrase back up all those different crypto's ? and if so can I use it on another platform to retrieve these 10 cryptos ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83408221 You can conjure up your Atomic Wallet from the seed phrase, You can download a new interation of Atomic and enter the seed phrase Honestly if you're worried about Atomic itself, the business, disappearing - I"m sure you'd have warning - But this is why we don't put all our eggs in one basket My stuff is split between multiple wallets I could split it up even more If you conjure up your wallet from the seed phrase in the Atomic software platform it brings up all the assets you have in the wallet. I would worry about keeping your device secure from malware and hackers Or just from being physically lost or stolen Or losing your password or your seed phrase Than I would worry about Atomic itself going belly up |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80622216 Brazil 05/28/2022 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If your device is lost or stolen you need to make sure you have a pin number to open the app set up.. But as I have said its not the end of the world.. you can get a new device And with your keys you can access your account. Because the crypto is not on the device itself It is on the XRPL or whichever network.. that exists in cyberspace |
zzbudzz
User ID: 80277779 United States 05/28/2022 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in the top 4% of XRP holders. I have a nice bag of XLM as well. So, It probably won't do shit since I own it. Quoting: zzbudzz Aw now, don't be so gloomy on us. The sec hasn't been humiliated yet. Well, I after getting pie'd in the face for nearly 50 years over and over you tend to be ...well , skeptical. Banned often |