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"Slavery was never abolished, it was only expanded to include every race." - Charles Bukowski

I am anti-union, but I support workers rights. Although I have many reasons why I despise unions, this video shows why the Frito-Lay union is worthless. Frito-Lay workers are forced into 84 hour workweeks. So much for the union looking out for their workers.

Jimmy Dore is a progressive, but I think most people on GLP who watch the video will be horrified to see that this type of slavery (for lack of a better word) exists in the US. And as Jimmy points out, not one progressive politician is standing up for the injustices at this plant.



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All this to create toxic, processed garbage "food" designed to sicken the population and keep them dependant on the bogus "medical" industry.
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so ... i guess that means they are hiring
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I had a "suicide shift" in my 1969 Olds 442.....
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I've travelled around the world installing and servicing high speed automated assembly lines. I've worked as a Controls Engineer. I'll let you guess what my Salaries were years and years ago and they still pay the same.

Add it up. They have to compete with Chinese and Indian saleries one way or another to stay competitive on the world stage.

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I don't give a shit about what Pepsi needs to do to remain profitable on the world stage. If they have to exploit workers anywhere, they have no right to be in business.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


The meathead above thinks 100K compensates for working seven days a week and having no life. And, it's that way year after year after year.

Some people are just dopes, HiN. I wasn't kidding when I said they're as brainwashed as the commies. Ironically, in communist societies they work like slaves, too. What's going on at Frito_Lay sounds very much like the conditions for Chinese factory workers.
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Clearly, you've never worked a $100K/yr job before. I got news for you, people who make 6-figure salaries typically work their ASSES off. That's life.

I'm not brainwashed, I just question the version of events as presented. The claims that are posted here have already proven to be untrue.

In communist societies if you do not work at the assigned job (no choice, you're assigned a position and you WILL do it) you will be shipped to the Gulag where you will be starved and worked to death. Absolutely NOTHING like that going on at Frito-Lay.

These employees are free to quit at any time and for any reason or no reason at all. They can just walk out the door, get in the car, and leave. The employer still has to pay them for the hours they worked. Does this actually sound anything like Soviet Russia or Cuba? You've got to be kidding, right?
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Meh Doritos are soon to be a thing of the past anyway as transhumans will only consume soylent green processed and packaged by robotics

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I dont eat chips. Or soda. Its a habit. Overpriced nothing.
Just eat food.
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Thats horrible, all you shills n trolls are bs.
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I don't give a shit about what Pepsi needs to do to remain profitable on the world stage. If they have to exploit workers anywhere, they have no right to be in business.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


The meathead above thinks 100K compensates for working seven days a week and having no life. And, it's that way year after year after year.

Some people are just dopes, HiN. I wasn't kidding when I said they're as brainwashed as the commies. Ironically, in communist societies they work like slaves, too. What's going on at Frito_Lay sounds very much like the conditions for Chinese factory workers.
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Clearly, you've never worked a $100K/yr job before. I got news for you, people who make 6-figure salaries typically work their ASSES off. That's life.

I'm not brainwashed, I just question the version of events as presented. The claims that are posted here have already proven to be untrue.

In communist societies if you do not work at the assigned job (no choice, you're assigned a position and you WILL do it) you will be shipped to the Gulag where you will be starved and worked to death. Absolutely NOTHING like that going on at Frito-Lay.

These employees are free to quit at any time and for any reason or no reason at all. They can just walk out the door, get in the car, and leave. The employer still has to pay them for the hours they worked. Does this actually sound anything like Soviet Russia or Cuba? You've got to be kidding, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80593370

I've travelled around the world installing and servicing high speed automated assembly lines. I've worked as a Controls Engineer. I'll let you guess what my Salaries were years and years ago and they still pay the same.
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Nobody top-posts here, BTW.

Lack of salary increases has affected nearly every industry across the board and I'm not saying that's right, either. However, the topic of "workers rights"... these people are free to leave the jobsite at any time. Comparing this to Socialist/Communist societies is kinda a joke. I've known a few people from the former USSR and a couple of Cubans. These people don't have a choice about where they work or when they work or how much. The government schedules them and they must produce or be punished. They work for very low pay - like $50/mth in Cuba.

I just think you can't really... with a straight face... tell me that $50/mth forced labor in a Cuban factory is anything like $100K/yr making potato chips with the option to leave whenever you like.
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Add it up. They have to compete with Chinese and Indian saleries one way or another to stay competitive on the world stage.

butthurt9

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80280343


I don't give a shit about what Pepsi needs to do to remain profitable on the world stage. If they have to exploit workers anywhere, they have no right to be in business.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


The meathead above thinks 100K compensates for working seven days a week and having no life. And, it's that way year after year after year.

Some people are just dopes, HiN. I wasn't kidding when I said they're as brainwashed as the commies. Ironically, in communist societies they work like slaves, too. What's going on at Frito_Lay sounds very much like the conditions for Chinese factory workers.
 Quoting: thinking...


Clearly, you've never worked a $100K/yr job before. I got news for you, people who make 6-figure salaries typically work their ASSES off. That's life.

I'm not brainwashed, I just question the version of events as presented. The claims that are posted here have already proven to be untrue.

In communist societies if you do not work at the assigned job (no choice, you're assigned a position and you WILL do it) you will be shipped to the Gulag where you will be starved and worked to death. Absolutely NOTHING like that going on at Frito-Lay.

These employees are free to quit at any time and for any reason or no reason at all. They can just walk out the door, get in the car, and leave. The employer still has to pay them for the hours they worked. Does this actually sound anything like Soviet Russia or Cuba? You've got to be kidding, right?
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I've known lots of people who make 100K or more per year and the conditions of their work is nothing like working in a factory seven days a week so you can stop with the bullshit right there.

There is no "Soviet Russia" or gulags you moron. I doubt hardly in Cuba works (they have no economy) and the only ones forced to work in China are the Uighers. The rest willingly pursue work where they can get it and they do for the same reasons as anyone else - they have to support themselves however they can.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Thats horrible, all you shills n trolls are bs.
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When's the last time you pulled in over 60+k in less than 5 months like 4 months?

Y'all don't wanna work you wanna cry.
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I am surprised, too. They continuously complain about multinationals controlling the world, yet they belittle the human rights of the American worker.
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And yet the party of the people uses the same multinational corps to suppress opposition to Socialism. Makes you think, huh?
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Multinationals and bankster capitalism funded communism around the world. Walmart much? Why do think Walmart holds info sessions telling people how to qualify for social services, i.e., welfare? It's called public risk for private profit. Taxpayers pay for the social services to support the underpaid workers of the multinationals. Socialism/communism and bankster/corporate capitalism are two sides of the same coin. They are ONE.
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Not even close. Anyone from a Communist nation can tell you that. At minimum, Communists/Socialists have NO "millionaires."

Social services != socialism/communism. Nobody is guaranteed an equal payout from publicly funded social services.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80593370


Wrong again. All of the communist and socialist societies have very wealthy elites. ALL OF THEM.

Social services/welfare supplements the cost of workers for global corporations.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Lol. I don't partake in emotional dialogue. Facts, numbers,
In order not only to survive, but to live, happily. The world economy and the differences in living standards perplex me.


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The meathead above thinks 100K compensates for working seven days a week and having no life. And, it's that way year after year after year.

Some people are just dopes, HiN. I wasn't kidding when I said they're as brainwashed as the commies. Ironically, in communist societies they work like slaves, too. What's going on at Frito_Lay sounds very much like the conditions for Chinese factory workers.
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Clearly, you've never worked a $100K/yr job before. I got news for you, people who make 6-figure salaries typically work their ASSES off. That's life.

I'm not brainwashed, I just question the version of events as presented. The claims that are posted here have already proven to be untrue.

In communist societies if you do not work at the assigned job (no choice, you're assigned a position and you WILL do it) you will be shipped to the Gulag where you will be starved and worked to death. Absolutely NOTHING like that going on at Frito-Lay.

These employees are free to quit at any time and for any reason or no reason at all. They can just walk out the door, get in the car, and leave. The employer still has to pay them for the hours they worked. Does this actually sound anything like Soviet Russia or Cuba? You've got to be kidding, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80593370

I've travelled around the world installing and servicing high speed automated assembly lines. I've worked as a Controls Engineer. I'll let you guess what my Salaries were years and years ago and they still pay the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80280343


Nobody top-posts here, BTW.

Lack of salary increases has affected nearly every industry across the board and I'm not saying that's right, either. However, the topic of "workers rights"... these people are free to leave the jobsite at any time. Comparing this to Socialist/Communist societies is kinda a joke. I've known a few people from the former USSR and a couple of Cubans. These people don't have a choice about where they work or when they work or how much. The government schedules them and they must produce or be punished. They work for very low pay - like $50/mth in Cuba.

I just think you can't really... with a straight face... tell me that $50/mth forced labor in a Cuban factory is anything like $100K/yr making potato chips with the option to leave whenever you like.
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The shitheads defending this don't give a crap about human dignity, the health of those working, the absurdity of a corporation raking in billions per year treating workers like this or the low pay.
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I'm not really defending Pepsi I just think the story presented is questionable.

If they abuse all their workers, why do they have any?

If they abuse all their workers, why have there been no strikes?

If they abuse all their workers, why have there been no complaints to the Department of Labor?

This isn't like China or India or Malaysia where the factory owners can literally whip people and chain them to machines and prevent them from leaving the building where they have to put suicide nets below the windows to keep people from offing themselves producing your new iPhone or iPad.
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It actually is getting more and more like that. I knew it was coming when Bill Clinton pimped NAFTA saying he was going make Americans more "competitive". That's a race to the bottom. Ross Perot warned everyone.

People work in places like that because they need the jobs. They don't strike for the same reasons. Part of me thinks, "well, walk out" but there's nowhere else to go and the corporation needs them as much as they need the jobs and the conditions and pay should reflect the value of the workers, without whom Frito-Lay could not function. They need is mutual but the workers are treated and paid as though it's not.
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I'm not really claiming that Frito-Lay is the pinnacle or workers rights or fantastic working conditions. However, Frito-Lay does not execute its employees if they refuse to show up for work.
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Neither do Nike or Apple or Foxcon or other operations in China. You don't show up, no job for you. Same as here.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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lmao @ the 100 hr tards. You really came out in force for this thread. Did you also walk 10 miles uphill through the snow to/from your job?

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People are supposed to work to live, not live to work.

If that's not slavery, I don't know what is.
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The shitheads defending this don't give a crap about human dignity, the health of those working, the absurdity of a corporation raking in billions per year treating workers like this or the low pay.
 Quoting: thinking...


I'm not really defending Pepsi I just think the story presented is questionable.

If they abuse all their workers, why do they have any?

If they abuse all their workers, why have there been no strikes?

If they abuse all their workers, why have there been no complaints to the Department of Labor?

This isn't like China or India or Malaysia where the factory owners can literally whip people and chain them to machines and prevent them from leaving the building where they have to put suicide nets below the windows to keep people from offing themselves producing your new iPhone or iPad.
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I agree. I also don't believe in "slave labor" but I do question whether everything presented has been presented absolutely factually. People love to embellish to make themselves out to be a victim. I've been watching a lot of crime shows lately and a common theme is "my hubby beats me, molests the kids, etc.", to get someone to kill off the person for a great life insurance payoff. There are often 2 sides to every story.
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I don't give a shit about what Pepsi needs to do to remain profitable on the world stage. If they have to exploit workers anywhere, they have no right to be in business.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


The meathead above thinks 100K compensates for working seven days a week and having no life. And, it's that way year after year after year.

Some people are just dopes, HiN. I wasn't kidding when I said they're as brainwashed as the commies. Ironically, in communist societies they work like slaves, too. What's going on at Frito_Lay sounds very much like the conditions for Chinese factory workers.
 Quoting: thinking...


Clearly, you've never worked a $100K/yr job before. I got news for you, people who make 6-figure salaries typically work their ASSES off. That's life.

I'm not brainwashed, I just question the version of events as presented. The claims that are posted here have already proven to be untrue.

In communist societies if you do not work at the assigned job (no choice, you're assigned a position and you WILL do it) you will be shipped to the Gulag where you will be starved and worked to death. Absolutely NOTHING like that going on at Frito-Lay.

These employees are free to quit at any time and for any reason or no reason at all. They can just walk out the door, get in the car, and leave. The employer still has to pay them for the hours they worked. Does this actually sound anything like Soviet Russia or Cuba? You've got to be kidding, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80593370


I've known lots of people who make 100K or more per year and the conditions of their work is nothing like working in a factory seven days a week so you can stop with the bullshit right there.

There is no "Soviet Russia" or gulags you moron. I doubt hardly in Cuba works (they have no economy) and the only ones forced to work in China are the Uighers. The rest willingly pursue work where they can get it and they do for the same reasons as anyone else - they have to support themselves however they can.
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You're right. Its worse. Imagine you owned the factory and had to be the one running everything, all the time.

Maybe a lot of people don't realize this, but its fairly common for high earners to have an entire office at their own home from which they continue working when they are no longer on shift at their employer. When you get to a certain level it begins to become expected that you will be available pretty much whenever needed to do whatever needs doing whether its really even remotely in your job description or not.

Fast paced mental labor for extended hours can actually be quite exhausting. Makes you feel like a zombie when you finally finish up. Sometimes I would feel like I wasn't safe to drive home from work.
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I've done shifts like that as needed. I worked 6+ months of 12-15 hour days 7 days a week. It sucked for my social life but was great for my bank account. It also probably helped me advance since I was always willing to work the extra hours.

Nobody is forcing them to work the OT. They can quit and find a new job, plus muh private companies can do whatever they want.

Frito Lay is under no obligation to provide them with a cushy 9-5 forty hour work week
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Thank you for reminding everyone why Libertarians are scumbags Mr. Narcissistic Psychopath.

Gross violations of labor law's need to be made a felony and prosecuted in criminal court, not civil court.
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Add it up. They have to compete with Chinese and Indian saleries one way or another to stay competitive on the world stage.

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I don't give a shit about what Pepsi needs to do to remain profitable on the world stage. If they have to exploit workers anywhere, they have no right to be in business.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


The meathead above thinks 100K compensates for working seven days a week and having no life. And, it's that way year after year after year.

Some people are just dopes, HiN. I wasn't kidding when I said they're as brainwashed as the commies. Ironically, in communist societies they work like slaves, too. What's going on at Frito_Lay sounds very much like the conditions for Chinese factory workers.
 Quoting: thinking...


Clearly, you've never worked a $100K/yr job before. I got news for you, people who make 6-figure salaries typically work their ASSES off. That's life.

I'm not brainwashed, I just question the version of events as presented. The claims that are posted here have already proven to be untrue.

In communist societies if you do not work at the assigned job (no choice, you're assigned a position and you WILL do it) you will be shipped to the Gulag where you will be starved and worked to death. Absolutely NOTHING like that going on at Frito-Lay.

These employees are free to quit at any time and for any reason or no reason at all. They can just walk out the door, get in the car, and leave. The employer still has to pay them for the hours they worked. Does this actually sound anything like Soviet Russia or Cuba? You've got to be kidding, right?
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The point is that a company won't double the line workers so that they all have 40 hour a week jobs at a potato chip factory. Instead they knowingly understaff it and then tell workers mid shift that they have to work an extra 4-8 hours or come in early for the next shift becasue it is cheaper for them to pay overtime at 150% of wages than it is to double the work force to stop overtime. This is economic exploitation and no company should be permitted to operate this way.
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And yet the party of the people uses the same multinational corps to suppress opposition to Socialism. Makes you think, huh?
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Multinationals and bankster capitalism funded communism around the world. Walmart much? Why do think Walmart holds info sessions telling people how to qualify for social services, i.e., welfare? It's called public risk for private profit. Taxpayers pay for the social services to support the underpaid workers of the multinationals. Socialism/communism and bankster/corporate capitalism are two sides of the same coin. They are ONE.
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Not even close. Anyone from a Communist nation can tell you that. At minimum, Communists/Socialists have NO "millionaires."

Social services != socialism/communism. Nobody is guaranteed an equal payout from publicly funded social services.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80593370


Wrong again. All of the communist and socialist societies have very wealthy elites. ALL OF THEM.

Social services/welfare supplements the cost of workers for global corporations.
 Quoting: thinking...


The Elites in those societies are not part of it. They are above it.

Social services/welfare was never intended to be used as a replacement for corporate benefits, and I'm aware that there are companies like Wal-Mart that appear to have a policy of abusing these programs. However, they are not actually doing anything illegal. Once they got on board, many others were forced to also get on or drown. I think what is needed there are some changes to the laws. Like adding a minimum waiting period to layoffs which would require all layoffs to be a least X weeks long before any benefits kick in. This way they can't use unemployment as a buffer for lack of paid holidays. Also to stop the practice of laying people off multiple times a year and bringing them back.
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I don't give a shit about what Pepsi needs to do to remain profitable on the world stage. If they have to exploit workers anywhere, they have no right to be in business.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


The meathead above thinks 100K compensates for working seven days a week and having no life. And, it's that way year after year after year.

Some people are just dopes, HiN. I wasn't kidding when I said they're as brainwashed as the commies. Ironically, in communist societies they work like slaves, too. What's going on at Frito_Lay sounds very much like the conditions for Chinese factory workers.
 Quoting: thinking...


Clearly, you've never worked a $100K/yr job before. I got news for you, people who make 6-figure salaries typically work their ASSES off. That's life.

I'm not brainwashed, I just question the version of events as presented. The claims that are posted here have already proven to be untrue.

In communist societies if you do not work at the assigned job (no choice, you're assigned a position and you WILL do it) you will be shipped to the Gulag where you will be starved and worked to death. Absolutely NOTHING like that going on at Frito-Lay.

These employees are free to quit at any time and for any reason or no reason at all. They can just walk out the door, get in the car, and leave. The employer still has to pay them for the hours they worked. Does this actually sound anything like Soviet Russia or Cuba? You've got to be kidding, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80593370


The point is that a company won't double the line workers so that they all have 40 hour a week jobs at a potato chip factory. Instead they knowingly understaff it and then tell workers mid shift that they have to work an extra 4-8 hours or come in early for the next shift becasue it is cheaper for them to pay overtime at 150% of wages than it is to double the work force to stop overtime. This is economic exploitation and no company should be permitted to operate this way.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


So quit.

What good are you going to do crying like a f@&&0t on GLP cause it's too much for you?

Same with the Amazon bitches.

Hell your I phone is made by some China man living in a fucking dog crate walking across a fenced bridge.

The bridge is fenced so the fucker don't jump off and kill himself.

Perspective here is you can quit.

That fucker isn't even allowed to commit suicide..

Quit the shit if you don't like it
G damn people it ain't fucking rocket science.
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I don't give a shit about what Pepsi needs to do to remain profitable on the world stage. If they have to exploit workers anywhere, they have no right to be in business.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


The meathead above thinks 100K compensates for working seven days a week and having no life. And, it's that way year after year after year.

Some people are just dopes, HiN. I wasn't kidding when I said they're as brainwashed as the commies. Ironically, in communist societies they work like slaves, too. What's going on at Frito_Lay sounds very much like the conditions for Chinese factory workers.
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Clearly, you've never worked a $100K/yr job before. I got news for you, people who make 6-figure salaries typically work their ASSES off. That's life.

I'm not brainwashed, I just question the version of events as presented. The claims that are posted here have already proven to be untrue.

In communist societies if you do not work at the assigned job (no choice, you're assigned a position and you WILL do it) you will be shipped to the Gulag where you will be starved and worked to death. Absolutely NOTHING like that going on at Frito-Lay.

These employees are free to quit at any time and for any reason or no reason at all. They can just walk out the door, get in the car, and leave. The employer still has to pay them for the hours they worked. Does this actually sound anything like Soviet Russia or Cuba? You've got to be kidding, right?
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The point is that a company won't double the line workers so that they all have 40 hour a week jobs at a potato chip factory. Instead they knowingly understaff it and then tell workers mid shift that they have to work an extra 4-8 hours or come in early for the next shift becasue it is cheaper for them to pay overtime at 150% of wages than it is to double the work force to stop overtime. This is economic exploitation and no company should be permitted to operate this way.
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But its not bad enough for the people to actually leave. There has to be a reason for that. Nobody at Frito-Lay is holding a gun to their head by the chip belt and screaming at them to pick. They have the option to move or find another job or to open a case with DOL or to talk to the news or try to negotiate with management or organize a new union that will stand up for them.

You can do none of those things in Socialist/Communist factories.
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I'm wondering if a worker was assigned a Saturday as mandatory OT and the worker refused citing the 4th Commandment ("Remember the Sabbath Day and keep it Holy"); how the factory's lawyers would respond.
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07/23/2021 01:29 AM
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84 hour work week?

Why the fuck would Frito Lay pay that much extra in wages?
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There's just never enough potato chips for 'muricans.

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Technically, only Lays are potato chips. The rest of them are corn and tortilla chips.
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Do you think low paying Countries care what spoiled Americans think? Could you live at their wages? Newsflash, they are trying to get here to make $15.00 at McDonald's etc,.

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I don't give a shit about what Pepsi needs to do to remain profitable on the world stage. If they have to exploit workers anywhere, they have no right to be in business.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


The meathead above thinks 100K compensates for working seven days a week and having no life. And, it's that way year after year after year.

Some people are just dopes, HiN. I wasn't kidding when I said they're as brainwashed as the commies. Ironically, in communist societies they work like slaves, too. What's going on at Frito_Lay sounds very much like the conditions for Chinese factory workers.
 Quoting: thinking...


Clearly, you've never worked a $100K/yr job before. I got news for you, people who make 6-figure salaries typically work their ASSES off. That's life.

I'm not brainwashed, I just question the version of events as presented. The claims that are posted here have already proven to be untrue.

In communist societies if you do not work at the assigned job (no choice, you're assigned a position and you WILL do it) you will be shipped to the Gulag where you will be starved and worked to death. Absolutely NOTHING like that going on at Frito-Lay.

These employees are free to quit at any time and for any reason or no reason at all. They can just walk out the door, get in the car, and leave. The employer still has to pay them for the hours they worked. Does this actually sound anything like Soviet Russia or Cuba? You've got to be kidding, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80593370


The point is that a company won't double the line workers so that they all have 40 hour a week jobs at a potato chip factory. Instead they knowingly understaff it and then tell workers mid shift that they have to work an extra 4-8 hours or come in early for the next shift becasue it is cheaper for them to pay overtime at 150% of wages than it is to double the work force to stop overtime. This is economic exploitation and no company should be permitted to operate this way.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature
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Quit , it's that easy
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Modern slavery is the severe exploitation of other people for personal or commercial gain. 84 hour work weeks are inhumane. If you have your own business, you are doing it for your own benefit. If you demand an employee work 12 to 18 hour days and do not give them days off for months, that is exploitation and the definition of modern slavery.

The physical effects from these hours include heart disease, increased cortisol production, nerve damage and depression. the quality of life suffers.

I don't mean to diminish slavery becasue it exists today, in cobalt mines, cacao farms and human trafficking networks. If you want to play with semantics, fine, but Frito=Lay is grossly exploiting their workers because they put profits over the workers who make their products.
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This still has zero comparison to slavery. Frito lay employees can quit whenever they want. A slave can not quit. If they do, they die.
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Slavery? It’s a fucking voluntary position they can quit if they don’t want the job but they like the money so they stay. You might as well be a progressive as well.
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they''ll just move to mexico like christie did

evil pricks, junk food anyway full of fucking soy
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The meathead above thinks 100K compensates for working seven days a week and having no life. And, it's that way year after year after year.

Some people are just dopes, HiN. I wasn't kidding when I said they're as brainwashed as the commies. Ironically, in communist societies they work like slaves, too. What's going on at Frito_Lay sounds very much like the conditions for Chinese factory workers.
 Quoting: thinking...


Clearly, you've never worked a $100K/yr job before. I got news for you, people who make 6-figure salaries typically work their ASSES off. That's life.

I'm not brainwashed, I just question the version of events as presented. The claims that are posted here have already proven to be untrue.

In communist societies if you do not work at the assigned job (no choice, you're assigned a position and you WILL do it) you will be shipped to the Gulag where you will be starved and worked to death. Absolutely NOTHING like that going on at Frito-Lay.

These employees are free to quit at any time and for any reason or no reason at all. They can just walk out the door, get in the car, and leave. The employer still has to pay them for the hours they worked. Does this actually sound anything like Soviet Russia or Cuba? You've got to be kidding, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80593370


The point is that a company won't double the line workers so that they all have 40 hour a week jobs at a potato chip factory. Instead they knowingly understaff it and then tell workers mid shift that they have to work an extra 4-8 hours or come in early for the next shift becasue it is cheaper for them to pay overtime at 150% of wages than it is to double the work force to stop overtime. This is economic exploitation and no company should be permitted to operate this way.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


But its not bad enough for the people to actually leave. There has to be a reason for that. Nobody at Frito-Lay is holding a gun to their head by the chip belt and screaming at them to pick. They have the option to move or find another job or to open a case with DOL or to talk to the news or try to negotiate with management or organize a new union that will stand up for them.

You can do none of those things in Socialist/Communist factories.
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I agree. They can quit if it's really that horrible. 300 of the employees at the same plant continue to work despite the strike. One local news site has the wages at the plant from $18.35 to $34.82 per hour, so they are hardly working for slave wages.

I understand it sucks working long hours. My husband works 65 hours+ a week minimum as a supervisor in a warehouse for a manufacturing plant and it sucks, but he gets compensated well for it and he could quit if he really wanted too. Those 65+ hours don't even count all the time at home on the phone dealing with stuff when he's not there. I know he's not making anywhere near $34.82 an hour and would love to make that an hour. There's plenty of employees at his plant who don't even make the $18.35 an hour.
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