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HUGE! Study finds COVID vaxes result in WEAKER, LESSER immune response to other viruses, stimuli

 
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Doesn't matter now how many studies prove them wrong we all know its a scam and they know we know but they don't care.

It has gone beyond reason and argument now and the mask is off (no pun intended!) it is now a fight to the death.

People are going to have a big shock once the army is on the streets and killing anyone who doesn't comply and we are not far off that situation. I would give it six months at the most.
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Was wondering why they’d tell the vaxxed to start wearing a mask now. They don’t want their lies coming out. See when you lie you have to keep lying more and more to protect that original lie. This is kind of funny to watch.
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Doesn't matter now how many studies prove them wrong we all know its a scam and they know we know but they don't care.

It has gone beyond reason and argument now and the mask is off (no pun intended!) it is now a fight to the death.

People are going to have a big shock once the army is on the streets and killing anyone who doesn't comply and we are not far off that situation. I would give it six months at the most.
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It’s a possible scenario but I actually see the clot shot taking effect before then. This fall and winter is going to be brutal for them when the cold and flu viruses start circulating.
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Doesn't matter now how many studies prove them wrong we all know its a scam and they know we know but they don't care.

It has gone beyond reason and argument now and the mask is off (no pun intended!) it is now a fight to the death.

People are going to have a big shock once the army is on the streets and killing anyone who doesn't comply and we are not far off that situation. I would give it six months at the most.
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Sorry I meant to reply but something got messed up

It’s a possible scenario but I actually see the clot shot taking effect before then. This fall and winter is going to be brutal for them when the cold and flu viruses start circulating.
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that is what we all said would occur over 6 months ago. End result eventually will be cytokine storm and death if not beforehand due to throwing clots and damage to the cardiovascular system, heart, and brain. But hey, go get your 3rd shot and know every 6 months they will give you yet another. As we get into fall there will be so many dropping dead I suspect there will be an uprising worldwide. However, the problem is that by then it will be far too late. At least for them. DO NOT take any jabs, not even flu jabs going forward.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

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July 26, 2021

COVID-19: Why Are American Scientists Silent on This?


Why have no American scientists challenged his conclusions? I would think – and America has highly educated, highly experienced scientists in every field imaginable – some of them would be interested in challenging Dr. Lanka. But, there’s a lot of grant and research money we’re talking about in the scientific world. Just like the cancer industry.

Dr Stefan Lanka Debunks Pictures of “Isolated Viruses” – “For almost one year we have been asking authorities, politicians and medical institutes for the scientific evidence for the existence of such viruses that are said to cause disease and therefore require “immunization”.

If Dr. Lanka is correct, SARS-CoV-2 is also not a virus. Dr. Stefan Lanka: “All claims about viruses as pathogens are false”, June 17, 2021. Now, can any American scientists prove him wrong? This is critically important. I am very interested in this because of where we are today with people dying at alarming rates after those experimental injections being passed off as vaccines.
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Where can I buy my Amazon booster subscription? I would like the gold package with extra variant coverage.
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Dr David Bauer, Crick Institute, on finding diminishing natural immunity in vaxxxec people
 Quoting: Reality Czar dodger007


People who have had two doses of Pfizer have 5-6 times fewer “gold standard” antibodies than unvaxxed and those numbers continue to decline as time passes from the jab. These are the natural antibodies your body makes on its own. This is exactly what Dr. Vanden Bossche has been warning against.

Here’s an embed for those who don’t like to give Twitter clicks.


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Hey, we can fix that. We’ll give you another jab.
You can count on America to do the right thing after exhausting every other alternative."
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Fellow tards

that website looks legit

can anyone disavow the source?
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That's because it's ALL LEGIT.

There's been 100's of legit links to legit world renown doctors and legit studies, but 80% of the people don't take the 15 minutes it takes to educate themselves.

They snort, say pffft, and blow it off, because Big Pharma and Big Government wouldn't lie to the people....would they???
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Doesn't matter now how many studies prove them wrong we all know its a scam and they know we know but they don't care.

It has gone beyond reason and argument now and the mask is off (no pun intended!) it is now a fight to the death.

People are going to have a big shock once the army is on the streets and killing anyone who doesn't comply and we are not far off that situation. I would give it six months at the most.
 Quoting: aningeniousname


Sorry I meant to reply but something got messed up

It’s a possible scenario but I actually see the clot shot taking effect before then. This fall and winter is going to be brutal for them when the cold and flu viruses start circulating.
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There's always hope but if that scenario you outlined does happen that is when the gloves will really come off because they know the game is up and now it is time for the next phase and that ain't going to be pretty.
For me I think we are almost at the point were they say right we have fooled as many people as we are ever going to and people are started realise on a massive scale what has happened so now it is time for them to get serious and start the round up phase.
The only caveat for me is will the military side with them or their people and up to now I have seen very little evidence they are going to side with us.
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Where can I buy my Amazon booster subscription? I would like the gold package with extra variant coverage.
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In that vein (pun intended) of thinking, guess who has one of the fastest and most robust delivery system in the world right now?

Yep, you guessed it Amazon.

Guess who also recently got into the pharmacy business?

Yep, you guessed it Amazon.

Now when ADE becomes a major problem as the months go on, and weekly boosters are needed for the vaxxed, who's the best candidate for logistically delivering the insulin needles and vials of the booster to people's homes so they can self-inject (like insulin or allergy shots)?

Yep, you guessed it Amazon.
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No takers? Bueller?
Fellow tards,
This proves:
1) The jab is gene therapy;
2) It reprograms the immune system;
3) It weakens the immune response to viruses;
4) It could set off the so-called cytokine storm in response to fungi;
5) Prior studies on animals that showed the vaxed had a hypersensitivity to wild coronaviruses were accurate.
6) The jab is obviously unsafe.

Here's earlier studies proving the same.

1) Previous experiments of rDNA jab against SARS Coronavirus caused brief immunity but then hypersensitivity to virus, to include inflammation to entire body, especially lungs: [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

2) 2012 study shows SARS vaccine causes temporary immunity, then hypersensitivity to virus with heart and lung damage or worse resulting; recommends caution in vaccinating humans: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

3) 2018 study reports therapeutic mRNA jabs can cause delayed autoimmune reaction with inflammation, and blood clots; up to 80% of test subjects have side effects; ~1% have severe or systemic side effects; and any immunity granted wanes in a year: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Got nothing to say?
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Did you read the comments in response to the study?
Many indicating that their were issues with the sample size, that it was done in comparison to first dose and second dose but not to unvaxxed, and a few suggesting that some type of adaption up or down of the innate and adaptive immune system is normal and typical with either viral exposure or vaccination.

I think this should be followed-up on more but don't think we can yet draw the kind of definitive conclusions you are making.

The initial post-mRNA studies you shared from 2012 and 2018 are very interesting however.

I think the jury is still out; We should know about ADE within 12-18 months I suspect; is that correct?

so by end of this year through June 2022.

I think most reputable scientists, even ones who promote ADE as a serious risk believe that it is an unknown and it could be anywhere from mild to severe ADE effecting a few or possibly many people.

Just like those promoting the immune escape doom, ADE doom is NOT a definite. It is a RISK or HAZARD one would list as a potential adverse event that needs to be scored for impact and likihood.

For example, we are already seeing immune escapes (Lamda) from Sinovac and Delta (and this is totally only my opinion - from the natural immunity of Indians in India which is why they did not get a strong Wave 1 or Wave 2.); There is no way to know if we will get a 'super strain' - just like people have been talking about the potential super bacteria that will be antibiotic resistant for years; and while there are some it is still managable.
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that is what we all said would occur over 6 months ago. End result eventually will be cytokine storm and death if not beforehand due to throwing clots and damage to the cardiovascular system, heart, and brain. But hey, go get your 3rd shot and know every 6 months they will give you yet another. As we get into fall there will be so many dropping dead I suspect there will be an uprising worldwide. However, the problem is that by then it will be far too late. At least for them. DO NOT take any jabs, not even flu jabs going forward.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

N0Pity-end
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Yes. The vax basically causes HIV. Then the vaxed is forever at risk of dying from a COLD!
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No takers? Bueller?
Fellow tards,
This proves:
1) The jab is gene therapy;
2) It reprograms the immune system;
3) It weakens the immune response to viruses;
4) It could set off the so-called cytokine storm in response to fungi;
5) Prior studies on animals that showed the vaxed had a hypersensitivity to wild coronaviruses were accurate.
6) The jab is obviously unsafe.

Here's earlier studies proving the same.

1) Previous experiments of rDNA jab against SARS Coronavirus caused brief immunity but then hypersensitivity to virus, to include inflammation to entire body, especially lungs: [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

2) 2012 study shows SARS vaccine causes temporary immunity, then hypersensitivity to virus with heart and lung damage or worse resulting; recommends caution in vaccinating humans: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

3) 2018 study reports therapeutic mRNA jabs can cause delayed autoimmune reaction with inflammation, and blood clots; up to 80% of test subjects have side effects; ~1% have severe or systemic side effects; and any immunity granted wanes in a year: [link to www.nature.com (secure)]

Got nothing to say?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78983708


Did you read the comments in response to the study?
Many indicating that their were issues with the sample size, that it was done in comparison to first dose and second dose but not to unvaxxed, and a few suggesting that some type of adaption up or down of the innate and adaptive immune system is normal and typical with either viral exposure or vaccination.

I think this should be followed-up on more but don't think we can yet draw the kind of definitive conclusions you are making.

The initial post-mRNA studies you shared from 2012 and 2018 are very interesting however.

I think the jury is still out; We should know about ADE within 12-18 months I suspect; is that correct?

so by end of this year through June 2022.

I think most reputable scientists, even ones who promote ADE as a serious risk believe that it is an unknown and it could be anywhere from mild to severe ADE effecting a few or possibly many people.

Just like those promoting the immune escape doom, ADE doom is NOT a definite. It is a RISK or HAZARD one would list as a potential adverse event that needs to be scored for impact and likihood.

For example, we are already seeing immune escapes (Lamda) from Sinovac and Delta (and this is totally only my opinion - from the natural immunity of Indians in India which is why they did not get a strong Wave 1 or Wave 2.); There is no way to know if we will get a 'super strain' - just like people have been talking about the potential super bacteria that will be antibiotic resistant for years; and while there are some it is still managable.
 Quoting: chrion777

Can you prove that these so called variants are not flu, not the cold? They're just other similar coronaviruses.

Can the tests distinguish between the original COVID 19 virus and, say, a new, novel flu? They're both coronaviruses.

They could be just labeling the flu a COVID-19 variant!

To which the vaxed may be hypersensitive, according to the three studies listed in the OP.
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However, they also showed that the vaccine altered the production of inflammatory cytokines by innate immune cells following stimulation with both specific (SARS-CoV-2) and non-specific (viral, fungal and bacterial) stimuli.

Following vaccination, innate immune cells had a reduced response to toll-like receptor 4 (TLR4), TLR7 and TLR8 – all ligands that play an important role in the immune response to viral infection.

Neta and colleagues also found that cytokine responses to fungi were increased following vaccination.
 Quoting: Medical Life Sciences News


Fellow tards, this is why the test animals in prior mRNA vax trials showed increased sensitivity to wild viruses.

Looks like the vax wipes your immune system.

This is why the vaxed now have to wear masks.

wtf
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This is NOT why vaxxed have to wear masks.

Masks do nothing but showing you are a compliant fool to others.
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However, they also showed that the vaccine altered the production of inflammatory cytokines by innate immune cells following stimulation with both specific (SARS-CoV-2) and non-specific (viral, fungal and bacterial) stimuli.

Following vaccination, innate immune cells had a reduced response to toll-like receptor 4 (TLR4), TLR7 and TLR8 – all ligands that play an important role in the immune response to viral infection.

Neta and colleagues also found that cytokine responses to fungi were increased following vaccination.
 Quoting: Medical Life Sciences News


Fellow tards, this is why the test animals in prior mRNA vax trials showed increased sensitivity to wild viruses.

Looks like the vax wipes your immune system.

This is why the vaxed now have to wear masks.

wtf
 Quoting: Medical Life Sciences News 78983708


You mean like this?

"Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus"

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They knew almost a decade ago that was the case.
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I am beginning to believe we need to separate the states now while we can before this country sinks like the titantic.
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"No shit Sherlock"...

THIS has been predicted by those crazy medical doctor and research "conspirasits" as a dastardly, "fake science" "conspiracy theory".

Lo and behold, it's no longer a "theory", but cruel, brutal and hard REALITY.

Have you noticed?
All those MSM declared "conspiracy theories" are turning out to be no more theories, one after another, but actual, REAL conspiracies?

The other "conspiracy theories" are coming down the pike to turn out to be real conspiracy and actual reality.
Just wait...
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However, they also showed that the vaccine altered the production of inflammatory cytokines by innate immune cells following stimulation with both specific (SARS-CoV-2) and non-specific (viral, fungal and bacterial) stimuli.

Following vaccination, innate immune cells had a reduced response to toll-like receptor 4 (TLR4), TLR7 and TLR8 – all ligands that play an important role in the immune response to viral infection.

Neta and colleagues also found that cytokine responses to fungi were increased following vaccination.
 Quoting: Medical Life Sciences News


Fellow tards, this is why the test animals in prior mRNA vax trials showed increased sensitivity to wild viruses.

Looks like the vax wipes your immune system.

This is why the vaxed now have to wear masks.

wtf
 Quoting: Medical Life Sciences News 78983708



I keep saying it... The vax is synthetic HIV. Just wait till winter when all these people start dropping dead from the cold and flu.
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Old Geert called it...Where are the vaxtards who said "but he's a vet"?

Immune escape and destruction of innate immunity.
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I dread Autumn and winter when the flu is in full swing. They won't have to have lockdowns as no one will want to be around a jabbed person or anywhere near a hospital.

Prepare now...food, medicine, water, heat source...it may be a very sad and rough ride. My greatest concern is with water source.

I have neighbors whose house is packed with food, every room, multiple freezers and refig, natural gas full house generator and are trying to find some solar generators...however, they both require prescription medicine, one whose life depends on it. If there is a disruption to medicine accessibility, it will be bad.

I pray, "come, Lord Jesus before it gets bad". And I pray for the unsaved to see the light before it is too late.
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However, they also showed that the vaccine altered the production of inflammatory cytokines by innate immune cells following stimulation with both specific (SARS-CoV-2) and non-specific (viral, fungal and bacterial) stimuli.

Following vaccination, innate immune cells had a reduced response to toll-like receptor 4 (TLR4), TLR7 and TLR8 – all ligands that play an important role in the immune response to viral infection.

Neta and colleagues also found that cytokine responses to fungi were increased following vaccination.
 Quoting: Medical Life Sciences News


Fellow tards, this is why the test animals in prior mRNA vax trials showed increased sensitivity to wild viruses.

Looks like the vax wipes your immune system.

This is why the vaxed now have to wear masks.

wtf
 Quoting: Medical Life Sciences News 78983708


No surprise... pretty much what virologists have been saying that aren't trying to kill humanity with their death shots...
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Thread: Democrats cannot drop Covid since there is another election next year.
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don't waste your energy, it's still a pre-print, not "peer reviewed" hence it is not "true", not "scientific" for the vast majority of morons cattle of MSM
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People are going to have a big shock once the army is on the streets and killing anyone who doesn't comply and we are not far off that situation. I would give it six months at the most.
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All armies are made up from citizens who have mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters etc. Do you really think the army will turn on its own people, that it joined up to protect?
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no suprise

shooting dirty toilet water full of experimental biologicals into your bloodtream is not too bright

even smart heroin addicts use DI water when they shoot up
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Where can I buy my Amazon booster subscription? I would like the gold package with extra variant coverage.
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In that vein (pun intended) of thinking, guess who has one of the fastest and most robust delivery system in the world right now?

Yep, you guessed it Amazon.

Guess who also recently got into the pharmacy business?

Yep, you guessed it Amazon.

Now when ADE becomes a major problem as the months go on, and weekly boosters are needed for the vaxxed, who's the best candidate for logistically delivering the insulin needles and vials of the booster to people's homes so they can self-inject (like insulin or allergy shots)?

Yep, you guessed it Amazon.
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hesright
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Oh yeah, big surprise.

Exactly what those of us who are immune compromised already, so not taking the vax have been saying ALL along.
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It's amusing they say the vaccines are 95% effective, yet all we hear about is vaxxed people getting the virus. Seems like it's not effective at all for what it's supposedly meant for.
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Old Geert called it...Where are the vaxtards who said "but he's a vet"?

Immune escape and destruction of innate immunity.
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Gibraltar is 107% vaxxed, yet they are #5(was 3) in new cases out of 200 Countries!

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