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First some back story. This WILL be a wall of text. Not all of it is 100% accurate but you'll get the general idea.

I've had a theory since from about 2008 at the time of the housing bubble collapse. I developed my theory from several others. First I came across the Kondratiev Long Wave Theory. Kondratiev was a Soviet economist put on a mission by Stalin to compare the US economic system with the Soviet and tell him which was better. Kondratiev's conclusion was the US system was better in the long term. He found, for example, that privatized industry and services created competition and that competition drove innovation. So things like supply meeting demand, production efficiencies, logistics, delivery, you name it were all improved because of technological advances created by those companies coming up with advantages to compete with their opponents. So production, manufacturing, services, logistics, transportation, etc were all improved over time because of competition. There was only one flaw in the US system. Over time greed and lack of regulation and massive disruption from emerging technologies caused a crash. So while in the long run, the US system was vastly superior, there is a boom / bust cycle. He figured this cycle to be based on technology and happens every 80ish years.

I looked further. What I discovered was these disruptive technologies are generally not new. They were invented decades prior, called interesting at best and nothing really happens with them... but they mature. Then they catch on and start gaining traction in the second half of this 80 year cycle and ramp up the creation of new ideas, services, and products that eventually replace all the old ways of doing things were done. And yes, there is a current list of these things. The obvious one for our cycle is the internet. Developed in the early 1980s and the world wide web created in 1990 by Tim Berners-Lee. The internet paved the way for all kinds of new services and products. Many super disruptive. It's not that we stop doing the things we've always done, we just do them differently. There is also a lot of resistance to the changes and this causes many to suffer because they refuse to abandon the old / adopt the new... so they get left behind. For example, Amazon is really just a modern Sears Catalog. It's weird to me what some forget. All the big stores, Pennys, Sears, etc all used to have catalog showrooms where you couldn't actually buy anything that day and take it home. You filled out your catalog forms and took the to the counter and they got ordered and you picked them up the following week or so. They might have several smaller items, but not all. So Amazon isn't destroying anything really... what they are doing is the same thing, just differently, and those saying they're destroying everything are the ones refusing to adopt the new technology. Humans have an interesting bias, we romanticize the past and fear the future to extremes. Everything was better back in the day and going to shit now. That's common though processes in humans.

But in the other cycles we had cars that were too expensive and there were no roads and they were too dangerous... no one would use them en masse.

So I looked back at the other cycles.... when were they were late 1920s-early 1930s, 1860s, 1780s... those seem familiar? They should. WWII, Civil War, Revolutionary War periods. so if you want to know what's coming or how much will change, look to those periods. That's the level of change and upheaval this period should be, according to my theory. Looks to see what was changed before and after those wars.

So I looked at the Presidents around the cycle's main events. Who were they? Something interesting popped up. During each of these times we had a "terrible" POTUS followed by a "Great" POTUS. I'm not here to debate if they were actually good or bad or the nuances. I'm only presenting how they are taught in schools, generally thought of by the public and media, and ranked historically. Before the "Great" Washington we didn't have a POTUS, but we had King George III. He was generally considered terrible for the colonies, so it counts. Before the Great Lincoln we had the generally accepted as the worst ever POTUS, Buchanan. The next "terrible" POTUS was Hoover succeeded by the "Great" FDR. This brings us to Trump. I know many here love Trump, but look at it from afar. The way he is depicted in the media and academia and will probably be remembered in history books (if there are any) is looking like he'll be considered a terrible POTUS. This is why I was telling people they really wanted Hillary to win in 2016. Everything bad Trump was blamed for would have also happen to her, because in my opinion this is all cycle based. What's confusing me a little is how will Biden be remembered as a "Great" along the lines of Lincoln and FDR? I don't see how it's possible.

So to answer the "what will happen" question, it's basically this: WAR.

Humans, particularly Americans tend to need to experience some sort of massive life changing trauma before they change. Like not quitting smoking until a spouse gets lung cancer from second hand smoke, or surviving a body mangling car accident or plane crash. It takes something big on the individual level and takes something just as big on a national level to change the country. So my thinking is something so large, tragic, destructive, and massive will happen / must happen for this country to realize what's really important and kind of get back to basics and foundations of what really matters. We've lost that and it appears it takes about 80 years for us to lose it and for something big to happen to "reset' everything to where we refocus for a while.

I call this transition "The Shift". I was going to do even more research and write a book about it, but I'm lazy and never did.

Here's a few of the changes I see coming no one will stop. So find a way to adapt, adopt, profit, and succeed from them.

1. Fully electric vehicles everywhere, no combustion engines.
2. Full renewable green energy production (that you will still have to buy from them).
3.Milage Tax (since no gas tax)
4. Digital ID / Passport (including vaccines)
5. Elimination of cash. The future will be digital / crypto / blockchain they have backdoors to
6. Local / boutique retail, everything else will be internet
7. Grocery stores and Home Depot type places remain

Those are just some.

Remember, if my theory is correct, we're about to go through something on the same level as WWII, the Civil War or the Revolutionary War. Going it alone in survival mode will not work for individuals, you're gonna need large groups. You can have all the guns and ammo you want, you're not going to stop 10,000 people rushing your neighborhood. Good luck, c ya out there.
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[link to stateofthenation.co]

Executive Summary

1. The 2022/2023 AD time window was selected decades ago as the time frame to conduct a controlled demolition of the entire Global Economic & Financial System (GE&FS).

2. Because that “Global Gambling Casino” has been totally exposed as a massive insider trading platform for the power elite, it no longer functions as the Confidence Game it was set up to be.

3. Maintaining this CON by artificially propping up the markets (all of them) has become so time-intensive, labor-intensive and energy-intensive that there is now a mathematical certainty to its inevitable collapse. In other words, it’s fast becoming impossible to prevent a spontaneous systemic breakdown of the GE&FS.

4. As a result of this inevitability, TPTB have long planned to coordinate a controlled demolition of the GE&FS under the rubric of the GREAT RESET.

5. Because of the pervasive and profound re-structuring of the world order brought about by the GREAT RESET, the top decision-makers executed OPERATION COVID-19, which was quickly followed by the implementation of the Covid Super Vaccination Agenda.
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What is a summary?
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What is a summary?
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A sum mary
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the person posting this is probably a hardcore leftist who can't wait for everyone to be driving an electric car.. or for all small business owners to be crushed.. all electronic money means government can stop transactions for gun purchases and whatever they want..and FORCED injections??
nah.. we would fight against all this
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the person posting this is probably a hardcore leftist who can't wait for everyone to be driving an electric car.. or for all small business owners to be crushed.. all electronic money means government can stop transactions for gun purchases and whatever they want..and FORCED injections??
nah.. we would fight against all this
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Fight? I am really beginning go think that as a whole Americans can't be bothered to fight for/over much of anything except who/what the media tells them to. I see the vast majority of Americans mired in debt slavery and too busy making ends meet and being entertained to give enough of a shit to do anything about any of it.
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Trying to portray collapse as progress.

The presidents sold as great were the worst.

People still had a great deal of freedom and ownership during those previous bust cycles.

These massive levels of abject poverty and excessive wealth will bring absolute destruction.

It is God's will: woe to those who lay house against house and field against field until there is nowhere for men to live. (Even if you don't believe in God, you can consider this an observation of what happens when there is too much wealth for the few and too much poverty for the many. Even Lao Tzu advised the emperor that if he wanted stability he needed to prevent anyone from getting too rich.)

It won't be any kind of rational evolution to the next stage of human progress.

It will be hell for everyone.
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A sum mary
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The sum of "mary" is the totality of "history".

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OP : delivers fascinating topics to discuss

GLP : You're a lefty democrat! God will judge you!


Any intelligent people here at all?

For one, I'd like to hear arguments from all sides.
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plus food supply. you see that in europe, they want to get rid of local farmers, their land will be full of houses (with africans) or solar panels. The ukrain is designated as european farm land and livestock without any control on nasty chemicals they put in there. (like the germans in ww2 wanted). no more countries, one socialist ‘united’ european socialist hellhole.
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First some back story. This WILL be a wall of text. Not all of it is 100% accurate but you'll get the general idea.

I've had a theory since from about 2008 at the time of the housing bubble collapse. I developed my theory from several others. First I came across the Kondratiev Long Wave Theory. Kondratiev was a Soviet economist put on a mission by Stalin to compare the US economic system with the Soviet and tell him which was better. Kondratiev's conclusion was the US system was better in the long term. He found, for example, that privatized industry and services created competition and that competition drove innovation. So things like supply meeting demand, production efficiencies, logistics, delivery, you name it were all improved because of technological advances created by those companies coming up with advantages to compete with their opponents. So production, manufacturing, services, logistics, transportation, etc were all improved over time because of competition. There was only one flaw in the US system. Over time greed and lack of regulation and massive disruption from emerging technologies caused a crash. So while in the long run, the US system was vastly superior, there is a boom / bust cycle. He figured this cycle to be based on technology and happens every 80ish years.

I looked further. What I discovered was these disruptive technologies are generally not new. They were invented decades prior, called interesting at best and nothing really happens with them... but they mature. Then they catch on and start gaining traction in the second half of this 80 year cycle and ramp up the creation of new ideas, services, and products that eventually replace all the old ways of doing things were done. And yes, there is a current list of these things. The obvious one for our cycle is the internet. Developed in the early 1980s and the world wide web created in 1990 by Tim Berners-Lee. The internet paved the way for all kinds of new services and products. Many super disruptive. It's not that we stop doing the things we've always done, we just do them differently. There is also a lot of resistance to the changes and this causes many to suffer because they refuse to abandon the old / adopt the new... so they get left behind. For example, Amazon is really just a modern Sears Catalog. It's weird to me what some forget. All the big stores, Pennys, Sears, etc all used to have catalog showrooms where you couldn't actually buy anything that day and take it home. You filled out your catalog forms and took the to the counter and they got ordered and you picked them up the following week or so. They might have several smaller items, but not all. So Amazon isn't destroying anything really... what they are doing is the same thing, just differently, and those saying they're destroying everything are the ones refusing to adopt the new technology. Humans have an interesting bias, we romanticize the past and fear the future to extremes. Everything was better back in the day and going to shit now. That's common though processes in humans.

But in the other cycles we had cars that were too expensive and there were no roads and they were too dangerous... no one would use them en masse.

So I looked back at the other cycles.... when were they were late 1920s-early 1930s, 1860s, 1780s... those seem familiar? They should. WWII, Civil War, Revolutionary War periods. so if you want to know what's coming or how much will change, look to those periods. That's the level of change and upheaval this period should be, according to my theory. Looks to see what was changed before and after those wars.

So I looked at the Presidents around the cycle's main events. Who were they? Something interesting popped up. During each of these times we had a "terrible" POTUS followed by a "Great" POTUS. I'm not here to debate if they were actually good or bad or the nuances. I'm only presenting how they are taught in schools, generally thought of by the public and media, and ranked historically. Before the "Great" Washington we didn't have a POTUS, but we had King George III. He was generally considered terrible for the colonies, so it counts. Before the Great Lincoln we had the generally accepted as the worst ever POTUS, Buchanan. The next "terrible" POTUS was Hoover succeeded by the "Great" FDR. This brings us to Trump. I know many here love Trump, but look at it from afar. The way he is depicted in the media and academia and will probably be remembered in history books (if there are any) is looking like he'll be considered a terrible POTUS. This is why I was telling people they really wanted Hillary to win in 2016. Everything bad Trump was blamed for would have also happen to her, because in my opinion this is all cycle based. What's confusing me a little is how will Biden be remembered as a "Great" along the lines of Lincoln and FDR? I don't see how it's possible.

So to answer the "what will happen" question, it's basically this: WAR.

Humans, particularly Americans tend to need to experience some sort of massive life changing trauma before they change. Like not quitting smoking until a spouse gets lung cancer from second hand smoke, or surviving a body mangling car accident or plane crash. It takes something big on the individual level and takes something just as big on a national level to change the country. So my thinking is something so large, tragic, destructive, and massive will happen / must happen for this country to realize what's really important and kind of get back to basics and foundations of what really matters. We've lost that and it appears it takes about 80 years for us to lose it and for something big to happen to "reset' everything to where we refocus for a while.

I call this transition "The Shift". I was going to do even more research and write a book about it, but I'm lazy and never did.

Here's a few of the changes I see coming no one will stop. So find a way to adapt, adopt, profit, and succeed from them.

1. Fully electric vehicles everywhere, no combustion engines.
2. Full renewable green energy production (that you will still have to buy from them).
3.Milage Tax (since no gas tax)
4. Digital ID / Passport (including vaccines)
5. Elimination of cash. The future will be digital / crypto / blockchain they have backdoors to
6. Local / boutique retail, everything else will be internet
7. Grocery stores and Home Depot type places remain

Those are just some.

Remember, if my theory is correct, we're about to go through something on the same level as WWII, the Civil War or the Revolutionary War. Going it alone in survival mode will not work for individuals, you're gonna need large groups. You can have all the guns and ammo you want, you're not going to stop 10,000 people rushing your neighborhood. Good luck, c ya out there.
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Proof? Links? Typical GLP bullshit?
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Great post, sorry about the typical rude replies. This is a great insightful post.

Thank you
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The ONLY way Biden could be considered great is if they exterminated anyone with a thinking brain cell. I wouldn't put it by them though!
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[link to stateofthenation.co]

Executive Summary

1. The 2022/2023 AD time window was selected decades ago as the time frame to conduct a controlled demolition of the entire Global Economic & Financial System (GE&FS).

2. Because that “Global Gambling Casino” has been totally exposed as a massive insider trading platform for the power elite, it no longer functions as the Confidence Game it was set up to be.

3. Maintaining this CON by artificially propping up the markets (all of them) has become so time-intensive, labor-intensive and energy-intensive that there is now a mathematical certainty to its inevitable collapse. In other words, it’s fast becoming impossible to prevent a spontaneous systemic breakdown of the GE&FS.

4. As a result of this inevitability, TPTB have long planned to coordinate a controlled demolition of the GE&FS under the rubric of the GREAT RESET.

5. Because of the pervasive and profound re-structuring of the world order brought about by the GREAT RESET, the top decision-makers executed OPERATION COVID-19, which was quickly followed by the implementation of the Covid Super Vaccination Agenda.
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Problem is this has happened around every 80 years, multiple times. This is nothing new and people said the same about the Great Northern War, the 30 Years War, the Revolutionary War, The Napoleonic Wars, the Civil War, and WWII. This is literally the umpteenth time this will happen.
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The ONLY way Biden could be considered great is if they exterminated anyone with a thinking brain cell. I wouldn't put it by them though!
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Yeah, I don't have any idea how Biden gets labeled as a "Great". Even people I know on the left say his only real quality is "he's not Trump". That's not "great".
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Great post.

The main difference now is that the internet and smart phones have democratized knowledge, old and new/current events in a way never possible before.

Humanity has never been this awake, collectively.

That's why they are coming for the internet and Freedom of Speech.
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First some back story. This WILL be a wall of text. Not all of it is 100% accurate but you'll get the general idea.

I've had a theory since from about 2008 at the time of the housing bubble collapse. I developed my theory from several others. First I came across the Kondratiev Long Wave Theory. Kondratiev was a Soviet economist put on a mission by Stalin to compare the US economic system with the Soviet and tell him which was better. Kondratiev's conclusion was the US system was better in the long term. He found, for example, that privatized industry and services created competition and that competition drove innovation. So things like supply meeting demand, production efficiencies, logistics, delivery, you name it were all improved because of technological advances created by those companies coming up with advantages to compete with their opponents. So production, manufacturing, services, logistics, transportation, etc were all improved over time because of competition. There was only one flaw in the US system. Over time greed and lack of regulation and massive disruption from emerging technologies caused a crash. So while in the long run, the US system was vastly superior, there is a boom / bust cycle. He figured this cycle to be based on technology and happens every 80ish years.

I looked further. What I discovered was these disruptive technologies are generally not new. They were invented decades prior, called interesting at best and nothing really happens with them... but they mature. Then they catch on and start gaining traction in the second half of this 80 year cycle and ramp up the creation of new ideas, services, and products that eventually replace all the old ways of doing things were done. And yes, there is a current list of these things. The obvious one for our cycle is the internet. Developed in the early 1980s and the world wide web created in 1990 by Tim Berners-Lee. The internet paved the way for all kinds of new services and products. Many super disruptive. It's not that we stop doing the things we've always done, we just do them differently. There is also a lot of resistance to the changes and this causes many to suffer because they refuse to abandon the old / adopt the new... so they get left behind. For example, Amazon is really just a modern Sears Catalog. It's weird to me what some forget. All the big stores, Pennys, Sears, etc all used to have catalog showrooms where you couldn't actually buy anything that day and take it home. You filled out your catalog forms and took the to the counter and they got ordered and you picked them up the following week or so. They might have several smaller items, but not all. So Amazon isn't destroying anything really... what they are doing is the same thing, just differently, and those saying they're destroying everything are the ones refusing to adopt the new technology. Humans have an interesting bias, we romanticize the past and fear the future to extremes. Everything was better back in the day and going to shit now. That's common though processes in humans.

But in the other cycles we had cars that were too expensive and there were no roads and they were too dangerous... no one would use them en masse.

So I looked back at the other cycles.... when were they were late 1920s-early 1930s, 1860s, 1780s... those seem familiar? They should. WWII, Civil War, Revolutionary War periods. so if you want to know what's coming or how much will change, look to those periods. That's the level of change and upheaval this period should be, according to my theory. Looks to see what was changed before and after those wars.

So I looked at the Presidents around the cycle's main events. Who were they? Something interesting popped up. During each of these times we had a "terrible" POTUS followed by a "Great" POTUS. I'm not here to debate if they were actually good or bad or the nuances. I'm only presenting how they are taught in schools, generally thought of by the public and media, and ranked historically. Before the "Great" Washington we didn't have a POTUS, but we had King George III. He was generally considered terrible for the colonies, so it counts. Before the Great Lincoln we had the generally accepted as the worst ever POTUS, Buchanan. The next "terrible" POTUS was Hoover succeeded by the "Great" FDR. This brings us to Trump. I know many here love Trump, but look at it from afar. The way he is depicted in the media and academia and will probably be remembered in history books (if there are any) is looking like he'll be considered a terrible POTUS. This is why I was telling people they really wanted Hillary to win in 2016. Everything bad Trump was blamed for would have also happen to her, because in my opinion this is all cycle based. What's confusing me a little is how will Biden be remembered as a "Great" along the lines of Lincoln and FDR? I don't see how it's possible.

So to answer the "what will happen" question, it's basically this: WAR.

Humans, particularly Americans tend to need to experience some sort of massive life changing trauma before they change. Like not quitting smoking until a spouse gets lung cancer from second hand smoke, or surviving a body mangling car accident or plane crash. It takes something big on the individual level and takes something just as big on a national level to change the country. So my thinking is something so large, tragic, destructive, and massive will happen / must happen for this country to realize what's really important and kind of get back to basics and foundations of what really matters. We've lost that and it appears it takes about 80 years for us to lose it and for something big to happen to "reset' everything to where we refocus for a while.

I call this transition "The Shift". I was going to do even more research and write a book about it, but I'm lazy and never did.

Here's a few of the changes I see coming no one will stop. So find a way to adapt, adopt, profit, and succeed from them.

1. Fully electric vehicles everywhere, no combustion engines.
2. Full renewable green energy production (that you will still have to buy from them).
3.Milage Tax (since no gas tax)
4. Digital ID / Passport (including vaccines)
5. Elimination of cash. The future will be digital / crypto / blockchain they have backdoors to
6. Local / boutique retail, everything else will be internet
7. Grocery stores and Home Depot type places remain

Those are just some.

Remember, if my theory is correct, we're about to go through something on the same level as WWII, the Civil War or the Revolutionary War. Going it alone in survival mode will not work for individuals, you're gonna need large groups. You can have all the guns and ammo you want, you're not going to stop 10,000 people rushing your neighborhood. Good luck, c ya out there.
 Quoting: The Årtist


Proof? Links? Typical GLP bullshit?
 Quoting: bidenwontheelection


What part of "this is my theory" do you not understand? I cannot provide a fucking link to my theory. I'm not going to place fucking citations to the ranking of Presidents, you can be the tiniest bit utilitarian and look that shit up, there's lists. But don't worry, you'll be the one being required to provide proof in the new system.
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Great post.

The main difference now is that the internet and smart phones have democratized knowledge, old and new/current events in a way never possible before.

Humanity has never been this awake, collectively.

That's why they are coming for the internet and Freedom of Speech.
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I tend to agree.
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plus food supply. you see that in europe, they want to get rid of local farmers, their land will be full of houses (with africans) or solar panels. The ukrain is designated as european farm land and livestock without any control on nasty chemicals they put in there. (like the germans in ww2 wanted). no more countries, one socialist ‘united’ european socialist hellhole.
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This is one aspect I never really got into looking at. The cycle has this transition period where some event happens and then a bit later the war / finality happens. There was the Dust Bowl drought / near famine in the US around the Great Depression era. So the food production angle would be interesting to look at.
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the person posting this is probably a hardcore leftist who can't wait for everyone to be driving an electric car.. or for all small business owners to be crushed.. all electronic money means government can stop transactions for gun purchases and whatever they want..and FORCED injections??
nah.. we would fight against all this
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I lean left but I'm not a "hardcore leftist". Reality of what's happening and documenting / tracking it historically and using repeated patterns to lay out a framework based on trends isn't political. I'm more Libertarian in it's truest form than anything else.

You must have missed the part about local / boutique retail being a big part of the future. Just in case you do not understand the definition for the word "boutique" it's

BOUTIQUE
noun: boutique; plural noun: boutiques
1. a small store selling fashionable clothes or accessories.
2. a business or establishment that is small and sophisticated or fashionable

Because of all the covid shit, many people have rallied behind and supported local small business. I see that continuing. And, omg, egads, GASP... I own several small businesses.
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It's a well known theory: The fourth turning.
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Some people seem to lack the ability to actually get outside of their belief paradigm and actually look at things objectively without placing their bias on what everyone else says. I've always been able to set aside my actual beliefs for the sake of discussion. This is why the left calls me a raving conservative and the right calls me a pinko commie. If both sides hate me, I'm doing it correctly. It means i'm actually in the middle.
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It's a well known theory: The fourth turning.
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Yes, That too was a bit of an influence based on interviews and generational types. I never read the book, however, so I don't know how far they dug into everything. I should probably read it.
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Trying to portray collapse as progress.

The presidents sold as great were the worst.

People still had a great deal of freedom and ownership during those previous bust cycles.

These massive levels of abject poverty and excessive wealth will bring absolute destruction.

It is God's will: woe to those who lay house against house and field against field until there is nowhere for men to live. (Even if you don't believe in God, you can consider this an observation of what happens when there is too much wealth for the few and too much poverty for the many. Even Lao Tzu advised the emperor that if he wanted stability he needed to prevent anyone from getting too rich.)

It won't be any kind of rational evolution to the next stage of human progress.

It will be hell for everyone.
 Quoting: The Albuquerque Statesman


Actually a real concern for sure. In the previous cycles, the ability to directly track individuals became less and less the farther back you go. Among other issues our current technology presents.

It's an interesting thing for me. I do believe the disparity in wealth is a large driving factor in the collapse of many societies. Greed is generally bad. But I fight with the because what is "greed"? I run several small businesses and do all the tax stuff / books for them and all I can say is anyone saying we need to tax people more etc, needs to run their own business and deal with the whole tax thing.
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Great post.

The main difference now is that the internet and smart phones have democratized knowledge, old and new/current events in a way never possible before.

Humanity has never been this awake, collectively.

That's why they are coming for the internet and Freedom of Speech.
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Agree, it has also enabled a new tyranny at the very same time. Such a chasm of free thought and thought police.
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First some back story. This WILL be a wall of text. Not all of it is 100% accurate but you'll get the general idea.

I've had a theory since from about 2008 at the time of the housing bubble collapse. I developed my theory from several others. First I came across the Kondratiev Long Wave Theory. Kondratiev was a Soviet economist put on a mission by Stalin to compare the US economic system with the Soviet and tell him which was better. Kondratiev's conclusion was the US system was better in the long term. He found, for example, that privatized industry and services created competition and that competition drove innovation. So things like supply meeting demand, production efficiencies, logistics, delivery, you name it were all improved because of technological advances created by those companies coming up with advantages to compete with their opponents. So production, manufacturing, services, logistics, transportation, etc were all improved over time because of competition. There was only one flaw in the US system. Over time greed and lack of regulation and massive disruption from emerging technologies caused a crash. So while in the long run, the US system was vastly superior, there is a boom / bust cycle. He figured this cycle to be based on technology and happens every 80ish years.

I looked further. What I discovered was these disruptive technologies are generally not new. They were invented decades prior, called interesting at best and nothing really happens with them... but they mature. Then they catch on and start gaining traction in the second half of this 80 year cycle and ramp up the creation of new ideas, services, and products that eventually replace all the old ways of doing things were done. And yes, there is a current list of these things. The obvious one for our cycle is the internet. Developed in the early 1980s and the world wide web created in 1990 by Tim Berners-Lee. The internet paved the way for all kinds of new services and products. Many super disruptive. It's not that we stop doing the things we've always done, we just do them differently. There is also a lot of resistance to the changes and this causes many to suffer because they refuse to abandon the old / adopt the new... so they get left behind. For example, Amazon is really just a modern Sears Catalog. It's weird to me what some forget. All the big stores, Pennys, Sears, etc all used to have catalog showrooms where you couldn't actually buy anything that day and take it home. You filled out your catalog forms and took the to the counter and they got ordered and you picked them up the following week or so. They might have several smaller items, but not all. So Amazon isn't destroying anything really... what they are doing is the same thing, just differently, and those saying they're destroying everything are the ones refusing to adopt the new technology. Humans have an interesting bias, we romanticize the past and fear the future to extremes. Everything was better back in the day and going to shit now. That's common though processes in humans.

But in the other cycles we had cars that were too expensive and there were no roads and they were too dangerous... no one would use them en masse.

So I looked back at the other cycles.... when were they were late 1920s-early 1930s, 1860s, 1780s... those seem familiar? They should. WWII, Civil War, Revolutionary War periods. so if you want to know what's coming or how much will change, look to those periods. That's the level of change and upheaval this period should be, according to my theory. Looks to see what was changed before and after those wars.

So I looked at the Presidents around the cycle's main events. Who were they? Something interesting popped up. During each of these times we had a "terrible" POTUS followed by a "Great" POTUS. I'm not here to debate if they were actually good or bad or the nuances. I'm only presenting how they are taught in schools, generally thought of by the public and media, and ranked historically. Before the "Great" Washington we didn't have a POTUS, but we had King George III. He was generally considered terrible for the colonies, so it counts. Before the Great Lincoln we had the generally accepted as the worst ever POTUS, Buchanan. The next "terrible" POTUS was Hoover succeeded by the "Great" FDR. This brings us to Trump. I know many here love Trump, but look at it from afar. The way he is depicted in the media and academia and will probably be remembered in history books (if there are any) is looking like he'll be considered a terrible POTUS. This is why I was telling people they really wanted Hillary to win in 2016. Everything bad Trump was blamed for would have also happen to her, because in my opinion this is all cycle based. What's confusing me a little is how will Biden be remembered as a "Great" along the lines of Lincoln and FDR? I don't see how it's possible.

So to answer the "what will happen" question, it's basically this: WAR.

Humans, particularly Americans tend to need to experience some sort of massive life changing trauma before they change. Like not quitting smoking until a spouse gets lung cancer from second hand smoke, or surviving a body mangling car accident or plane crash. It takes something big on the individual level and takes something just as big on a national level to change the country. So my thinking is something so large, tragic, destructive, and massive will happen / must happen for this country to realize what's really important and kind of get back to basics and foundations of what really matters. We've lost that and it appears it takes about 80 years for us to lose it and for something big to happen to "reset' everything to where we refocus for a while.

I call this transition "The Shift". I was going to do even more research and write a book about it, but I'm lazy and never did.

Here's a few of the changes I see coming no one will stop. So find a way to adapt, adopt, profit, and succeed from them.

1. Fully electric vehicles everywhere, no combustion engines.
2. Full renewable green energy production (that you will still have to buy from them).
3.Milage Tax (since no gas tax)
4. Digital ID / Passport (including vaccines)
5. Elimination of cash. The future will be digital / crypto / blockchain they have backdoors to
6. Local / boutique retail, everything else will be internet
7. Grocery stores and Home Depot type places remain

Those are just some.

Remember, if my theory is correct, we're about to go through something on the same level as WWII, the Civil War or the Revolutionary War. Going it alone in survival mode will not work for individuals, you're gonna need large groups. You can have all the guns and ammo you want, you're not going to stop 10,000 people rushing your neighborhood. Good luck, c ya out there.
 Quoting: The Årtist


Your theory does not address the purpose of the vaxx. So I think your still off the mark.
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Steve Bannon earlier this week had a number of clips of Joe Biden speaking of WAR. He said folks to get ready because this is very serious direction he is taking us.
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"There was only one flaw in the US system. Over time greed and lack of regulation and massive disruption from emerging technologies caused a crash."

Well that didn't happen.
Massive artificial regulation created by corrupt government to benefit a few huge companies by destroying smaller ones is what happened.
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"There was only one flaw in the US system. Over time greed and lack of regulation and massive disruption from emerging technologies caused a crash."

Well that didn't happen.
Massive artificial regulation created by corrupt government to benefit a few huge companies by destroying smaller ones is what happened.
 Quoting: Artificial Person


THIS2


ahhh, 'too big to fail'.


We will just create trillions of $$$s out of thin air and hand it to these captains of industry.
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First some back story. This WILL be a wall of text. Not all of it is 100% accurate but you'll get the general idea.

I've had a theory since from about 2008 at the time of the housing bubble collapse. I developed my theory from several others. First I came across the Kondratiev Long Wave Theory. Kondratiev was a Soviet economist put on a mission by Stalin to compare the US economic system with the Soviet and tell him which was better. Kondratiev's conclusion was the US system was better in the long term. He found, for example, that privatized industry and services created competition and that competition drove innovation. So things like supply meeting demand, production efficiencies, logistics, delivery, you name it were all improved because of technological advances created by those companies coming up with advantages to compete with their opponents. So production, manufacturing, services, logistics, transportation, etc were all improved over time because of competition. There was only one flaw in the US system. Over time greed and lack of regulation and massive disruption from emerging technologies caused a crash. So while in the long run, the US system was vastly superior, there is a boom / bust cycle. He figured this cycle to be based on technology and happens every 80ish years.

I looked further. What I discovered was these disruptive technologies are generally not new. They were invented decades prior, called interesting at best and nothing really happens with them... but they mature. Then they catch on and start gaining traction in the second half of this 80 year cycle and ramp up the creation of new ideas, services, and products that eventually replace all the old ways of doing things were done. And yes, there is a current list of these things. The obvious one for our cycle is the internet. Developed in the early 1980s and the world wide web created in 1990 by Tim Berners-Lee. The internet paved the way for all kinds of new services and products. Many super disruptive. It's not that we stop doing the things we've always done, we just do them differently. There is also a lot of resistance to the changes and this causes many to suffer because they refuse to abandon the old / adopt the new... so they get left behind. For example, Amazon is really just a modern Sears Catalog. It's weird to me what some forget. All the big stores, Pennys, Sears, etc all used to have catalog showrooms where you couldn't actually buy anything that day and take it home. You filled out your catalog forms and took the to the counter and they got ordered and you picked them up the following week or so. They might have several smaller items, but not all. So Amazon isn't destroying anything really... what they are doing is the same thing, just differently, and those saying they're destroying everything are the ones refusing to adopt the new technology. Humans have an interesting bias, we romanticize the past and fear the future to extremes. Everything was better back in the day and going to shit now. That's common though processes in humans.

But in the other cycles we had cars that were too expensive and there were no roads and they were too dangerous... no one would use them en masse.

So I looked back at the other cycles.... when were they were late 1920s-early 1930s, 1860s, 1780s... those seem familiar? They should. WWII, Civil War, Revolutionary War periods. so if you want to know what's coming or how much will change, look to those periods. That's the level of change and upheaval this period should be, according to my theory. Looks to see what was changed before and after those wars.

So I looked at the Presidents around the cycle's main events. Who were they? Something interesting popped up. During each of these times we had a "terrible" POTUS followed by a "Great" POTUS. I'm not here to debate if they were actually good or bad or the nuances. I'm only presenting how they are taught in schools, generally thought of by the public and media, and ranked historically. Before the "Great" Washington we didn't have a POTUS, but we had King George III. He was generally considered terrible for the colonies, so it counts. Before the Great Lincoln we had the generally accepted as the worst ever POTUS, Buchanan. The next "terrible" POTUS was Hoover succeeded by the "Great" FDR. This brings us to Trump. I know many here love Trump, but look at it from afar. The way he is depicted in the media and academia and will probably be remembered in history books (if there are any) is looking like he'll be considered a terrible POTUS. This is why I was telling people they really wanted Hillary to win in 2016. Everything bad Trump was blamed for would have also happen to her, because in my opinion this is all cycle based. What's confusing me a little is how will Biden be remembered as a "Great" along the lines of Lincoln and FDR? I don't see how it's possible.

So to answer the "what will happen" question, it's basically this: WAR.

Humans, particularly Americans tend to need to experience some sort of massive life changing trauma before they change. Like not quitting smoking until a spouse gets lung cancer from second hand smoke, or surviving a body mangling car accident or plane crash. It takes something big on the individual level and takes something just as big on a national level to change the country. So my thinking is something so large, tragic, destructive, and massive will happen / must happen for this country to realize what's really important and kind of get back to basics and foundations of what really matters. We've lost that and it appears it takes about 80 years for us to lose it and for something big to happen to "reset' everything to where we refocus for a while.

I call this transition "The Shift". I was going to do even more research and write a book about it, but I'm lazy and never did.

Here's a few of the changes I see coming no one will stop. So find a way to adapt, adopt, profit, and succeed from them.

1. Fully electric vehicles everywhere, no combustion engines.
2. Full renewable green energy production (that you will still have to buy from them).
3.Milage Tax (since no gas tax)
4. Digital ID / Passport (including vaccines)
5. Elimination of cash. The future will be digital / crypto / blockchain they have backdoors to
6. Local / boutique retail, everything else will be internet
7. Grocery stores and Home Depot type places remain

Those are just some.

Remember, if my theory is correct, we're about to go through something on the same level as WWII, the Civil War or the Revolutionary War. Going it alone in survival mode will not work for individuals, you're gonna need large groups. You can have all the guns and ammo you want, you're not going to stop 10,000 people rushing your neighborhood. Good luck, c ya out there.
 Quoting: The Årtist


Proof? Links? Typical GLP bullshit?
 Quoting: bidenwontheelection


What part of "this is my theory" do you not understand? I cannot provide a fucking link to my theory. I'm not going to place fucking citations to the ranking of Presidents, you can be the tiniest bit utilitarian and look that shit up, there's lists. But don't worry, you'll be the one being required to provide proof in the new system.
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Sounds similar to the four turnings and the Hype Cycle.

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