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Does the vaccine do anything at all?

 
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It would seem to be randomly killing people so go ahead, take your best shot!


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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
Yes. It causes the body to produce new virus kinds.
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Yes. It causes the body to produce new virus kinds.
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It's giving much needed profit to big pharma.
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
Again, It's a single layer of self protection. Coupled with other layers, such as frequent hygiene and distance precautions.

Masks limit the number of droplets that come from the mouth. The virus moves from person to person on droplets.

The less viral load, the better our bodies deal with infection.

You people seem to love to oversimplify subjects you obviously don't fully understand.
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I've yet to see or read about even one test indicating a person's actual "viral load". So, since you believe this is a critical data point, and it should be for all infections, please provide us with all the testing data that indicates specific, quantitative viral load amounts in the infected and, comparatively, the non-infected.

Because, my god, we are 18 months out now, this data should be plenty.

I'll wait.
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A properly calibrated and administered PCR test CAN show a ballpark estimate of viral load.

After experimentation with a particular virus, you could calibrate the cycles to only register a positive when the person has approximately between "x and y" presence of virus in the test area.

Or you can calibrate it to test positive if the person has a ton of virus, or practically zero (fragment of a single dead virus).

The reason why people who are freshly vaxxed are showing high viral load but no symptoms is b/c that is what you would expect to see in a person who is beginning to show signs of ADE. Their load builds and builds as antibodies attach to the virus but do not neutralize it. It takes longer for those antibody attached viruses to finally bind to their target cells and dump their load.

But they eventually do and then all hell breaks loose.

The good thing is that the antibody levels fall off drastically over the 6 month period after the jabs. So if the jabbed encounters the virus 6 months out, they will not get as much ADE. But their natural immune response is confused due to the memory of the fake spike antibodies, so they can't combat the SARS-2 virus very well naturally, and so they are more likely to suffer true COVID symptoms.

Bad either way for the jabbed.
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
recent CDC study of an outbreak in Massachusets link below.

469 cases

346 infected were fully vaccinated.
46% Pfizer 38% Moderna 16% J&J

Other 84 cases were unvaccinated.

That's 74% vaccinated
26% unvaccinated

5 were hospitalized
4 of them or 80% were vaccinated.
1 of them or 20% were unvaccinated.
2 had comorbidity

Article goes on to say
"This is evidence that the Pfizer, Moderna and J&J vaccines are highly effective against severe disease and death."


My question is how?

Without the ages we can't even say that the vaccinated were older on average.

wtf

And the vaccinated were carrying just as high of a viral load as the unvaccinated hence the reason the want the mask mandate back.


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It’s amazing how ignorant people are, including some shill Doctors.

Healthy people don’t spread viruses, nor do they create them. Hence the word healthy, meaning NOT sick or asymptotic

You quarantine sick people, not healthy people, that makes illnesses worse.

Natural antibodies are far superior to any questionable shit in a injection

Vaccines confer immunity to something and does not require anyone else to get shots for it to work. Ergo, this is not a vaccine.

Herd immunity was achieved amongst the Amish communities from last summer. How? They stayed off the jabs, and let their immune systems work through covid, and didn’t hide under their beds afraid, and like India and such used effective treatments like ivermectin and hyrodoxic to treat the covid

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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
Again, It's a single layer of self protection. Coupled with other layers, such as frequent hygiene and distance precautions.

Masks limit the number of droplets that come from the mouth. The virus moves from person to person on droplets.

The less viral load, the better our bodies deal with infection.

You people seem to love to oversimplify subjects you obviously don't fully understand.
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I've yet to see or read about even one test indicating a person's actual "viral load". So, since you believe this is a critical data point, and it should be for the diagnoses of all infections especially in a "pandemic" we are so desperately trying to better understand, please provide us with all the testing data that indicates specific, quantitative viral load amounts in the infected and, comparatively, the non-infected.

Because, my god, we are 18 months out now, this data should be plenty.

I'll wait.

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I can't help that you are bad at research.

And it's just a number to REPRESENT the exposure and viability of the virus. A saturation of the virus will be different for everyone. Some can get a small exposure and succumb, while others can live in a house full of covid patients and have zero symptoms. The facts are not as cut and dried as so many on this site like to believe.

Groups, depending on their vaccine status and individual physiology are going to do better than others, for many reasons. We still need to see who is actually dying, the breakouts, or the unvaxxed.

The data is new every day. The LATEST science is what should be concentrated on. Not this so and so said this and that last month/last year!

So many fail to understand that the science, and recommendations, can change from day to day, as new evidence points directly to a problem.
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I’m just gonna leave this here



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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
Again, It's a single layer of self protection. Coupled with other layers, such as frequent hygiene and distance precautions.

Masks limit the number of droplets that come from the mouth. The virus moves from person to person on droplets.

The less viral load, the better our bodies deal with infection.

You people seem to love to oversimplify subjects you obviously don't fully understand.
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I've yet to see or read about even one test indicating a person's actual "viral load". So, since you believe this is a critical data point, and it should be for all infections, please provide us with all the testing data that indicates specific, quantitative viral load amounts in the infected and, comparatively, the non-infected.

Because, my god, we are 18 months out now, this data should be plenty.

I'll wait.
 Quoting: TXP


A properly calibrated and administered PCR test CAN show a ballpark estimate of viral load.

After experimentation with a particular virus, you could calibrate the cycles to only register a positive when the person has approximately between "x and y" presence of virus in the test area.

Or you can calibrate it to test positive if the person has a ton of virus, or practically zero (fragment of a single dead virus).

The reason why people who are freshly vaxxed are showing high viral load but no symptoms is b/c that is what you would expect to see in a person who is beginning to show signs of ADE. Their load builds and builds as antibodies attach to the virus but do not neutralize it. It takes longer for those antibody attached viruses to finally bind to their target cells and dump their load.

But they eventually do and then all hell breaks loose.

The good thing is that the antibody levels fall off drastically over the 6 month period after the jabs. So if the jabbed encounters the virus 6 months out, they will not get as much ADE. But their natural immune response is confused due to the memory of the fake spike antibodies, so they can't combat the SARS-2 virus very well naturally, and so they are more likely to suffer true COVID symptoms.

Bad either way for the jabbed.
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says who?
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It lets you in a restaurant.
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So does 666
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No benefits, your immune recognizes all corona's and there is novel corona. And any future variants are recognized as well. That they do know but lie in the media.


As for harm, they kill you fast or slow unless you can get on top of what's its doing and take a lot of supplements.
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Mostly it makes glp full of repititive threads. Like this one.
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Figures don't lie, but liars know how to figure. Lawyers and politicians seem to have been largely thought to be liars. Many politicians are lawyers. Ergo the government can make numbers appear to say whatever they want them to say.

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...well, this guy makes some valid points lol

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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
If YOU took Vaccine...

YOU are NOW a Genetically Modified Organism.

YOU are No Longer fully Human. YOU are a modified life-form.

You have been modified, and this makes YOU subject to a new set-of-legal-standards set-in-place by the Monsanto Corporation.



Get-Some...

("THIS") MAY be what the ("Vaccine") actually does.

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such pathetic ignorance
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Sure-Pal... Let's play Pin-The-Beanie instead...

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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
It does exactly what it's designed to do: Kill, maim, and make those who survive intact have the ability to be mind-controlled via 5G signals.
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
Well.. it seems they are poor at preventing you from getting covid.

However, the next question is: do they really reduce symptoms to make it less dangerous?
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It spreads the Delta variant as planned.

Delta variant first identified December 2020 in Great Britain and India.
Vaccination first began December 2020 in Great Britain.
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It gives you the Delta
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Mostly it makes glp full of repititive threads. Like this one.
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This.
You guys spend an awful lot of time convincing yourselves and each other that you certainly are right.

Kinda like the Bandar-log in the Jungle Books...
We all say it so it must be true.

It looks like we are eventually destined to find out which "side" is firing on all cylinders, and which isn't.
If only there didn't have to be sides.
We are heading in the direction of the middle east, where even if some sort of reconciliation were possible there would still be those we wouldn't accept it, because it would rob them of their purpose in life.

Fold up yer hands and pray to the sky!!!!!!
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If only rank and file Democrats read more than sports and entertainment news.

5 stars.
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
Looks to me that the vaccine prevents Covid from getting softer. It keeps it virulent and mutating so it won't go away.
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Viruses do not become more virulent as they mutate. They are looking for a good host in which to call home and 'set up shop' not to kill the host. Higher transmission? Yes. Higher virulence? No.

This is real science not Marxist "my feelings are fact" science.

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Truth..but even so, they have no test for delta over omega. Mutant strains are not more lethal.

Spike proteins embedded in your own cells is NOT a mutant strain -- but a modification of your cells and is gain of function and your immune system will attack your own cells that have a viral protein particle attached to it... so the lethality of genetic manipulation is variable, depending on where those spike protein embed and what type of damage the immune cells will do by destroying your own cells.
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Yes, fact, too. ^^^ And, the internal landscape (physio and biochem) variables are greater than the two you mention.

I happen to have confirmed Graves Disease, a form of auto-immune hyperthyroidism, and I guarantee my immune reaction to the spike proteins and biomechanism of this mRNA biotech would be vastly different than one without Graves as a system variable. And, I'd most likely be in the more immediate reaction category (triggered hormone storm) rather than in the future reaction category, which will occur upon exposure to any of the many types of coronaviruses.

But, of course, there's no clinical trial data on the autoimmune population because they decided not test the subset.

All of this from top to bottom - PCR bullshit, synthetic sequencing, untested therapeutics sold as vaccines, dirty data, sloppy science, censorship, lockdowns, quarantines, mandates, deadly deception, fraud - makes Meng*le and friends look like a choir boys.
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Truth!!
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It lets you in a restaurant.
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You see this? ^ This is the type of person that will risk their lives with an experimental injection, just to remain comfortable.

But fails to realize they have given up their freedom for a false sense of security.

Do drink the koolaid.
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Well. I had the polio vaccine as a child. I don't run around with a mask on worrying about getting polio. But people who had the Wuhuvax still need to worry about getting covid. So it doesn't sound like it's doing anything good, does it?
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
Again, It's a single layer of self protection. Coupled with other layers, such as frequent hygiene and distance precautions.

Masks limit the number of droplets that come from the mouth. The virus moves from person to person on droplets.

The less viral load, the better our bodies deal with infection.

You people seem to love to oversimplify subjects you obviously don't fully understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2272340


I've yet to see or read about even one test indicating a person's actual "viral load". So, since you believe this is a critical data point, and it should be for all infections, please provide us with all the testing data that indicates specific, quantitative viral load amounts in the infected and, comparatively, the non-infected.

Because, my god, we are 18 months out now, this data should be plenty.

I'll wait.
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A properly calibrated and administered PCR test CAN show a ballpark estimate of viral load.

After experimentation with a particular virus, you could calibrate the cycles to only register a positive when the person has approximately between "x and y" presence of virus in the test area.

Or you can calibrate it to test positive if the person has a ton of virus, or practically zero (fragment of a single dead virus).

The reason why people who are freshly vaxxed are showing high viral load but no symptoms is b/c that is what you would expect to see in a person who is beginning to show signs of ADE. Their load builds and builds as antibodies attach to the virus but do not neutralize it. It takes longer for those antibody attached viruses to finally bind to their target cells and dump their load.

But they eventually do and then all hell breaks loose.

The good thing is that the antibody levels fall off drastically over the 6 month period after the jabs. So if the jabbed encounters the virus 6 months out, they will not get as much ADE. But their natural immune response is confused due to the memory of the fake spike antibodies, so they can't combat the SARS-2 virus very well naturally, and so they are more likely to suffer true COVID symptoms.

Bad either way for the jabbed.

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I stopped after your first sentence. I'm not interested in estimations with a method never intended for diagnoses (and now bastardized), and FFGD sake, certainly not "estimating viral loads" by which you then convince yourselves it's hard and/or clean data.

Viral load is a hard measure. Give me the actual number if you plan to use the data to diagnose, treat, create public health policies, mandates, shut down economies, destroy lives and otherwise violate human rights.

Who the fuck has been training scientists the last two decades? WTF is wrong with people's ability for critical thought? Have the pathways to the prefrontal cortex been destroyed?

There's simply not enough tequila in the supply chain for this bullshit.

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Well. I had the polio vaccine as a child. I don't run around with a mask on worrying about getting polio. But people who had the Wuhuvax still need to worry about getting covid. So it doesn't sound like it's doing anything good, does it?
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In those days there was no controversy, everyone got the polio vax.
No one walking around with polio now.
Maybe things still work the same.
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It's not a "vaccine".
It's an inoculation with poison.
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does malaria mutate?

does bubonic plague mutate?

does ebola mutate?

does rabies mutate?

isn't it odd that those viruses are like a poison or toxin from an animal bite?

now let us consider the 'coronavirus' or 'colds'

huh seems strange
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This is a great point. Reminds me of the theory that corona/flu/cold "viruses" aren't viruses at all, but rather the body's response to toxins or other pathogens (any number of them). As the soup of toxins changes, the exosomes change as well, giving the illusion of a virus "evolving."
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Again, It's a single layer of self protection. Coupled with other layers, such as frequent hygiene and distance precautions.

Masks limit the number of droplets that come from the mouth. The virus moves from person to person on droplets.

The less viral load, the better our bodies deal with infection.

You people seem to love to oversimplify subjects you obviously don't fully understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2272340


I've yet to see or read about even one test indicating a person's actual "viral load". So, since you believe this is a critical data point, and it should be for all infections, please provide us with all the testing data that indicates specific, quantitative viral load amounts in the infected and, comparatively, the non-infected.

Because, my god, we are 18 months out now, this data should be plenty.

I'll wait.
 Quoting: TXP


A properly calibrated and administered PCR test CAN show a ballpark estimate of viral load.

After experimentation with a particular virus, you could calibrate the cycles to only register a positive when the person has approximately between "x and y" presence of virus in the test area.

Or you can calibrate it to test positive if the person has a ton of virus, or practically zero (fragment of a single dead virus).

The reason why people who are freshly vaxxed are showing high viral load but no symptoms is b/c that is what you would expect to see in a person who is beginning to show signs of ADE. Their load builds and builds as antibodies attach to the virus but do not neutralize it. It takes longer for those antibody attached viruses to finally bind to their target cells and dump their load.

But they eventually do and then all hell breaks loose.

The good thing is that the antibody levels fall off drastically over the 6 month period after the jabs. So if the jabbed encounters the virus 6 months out, they will not get as much ADE. But their natural immune response is confused due to the memory of the fake spike antibodies, so they can't combat the SARS-2 virus very well naturally, and so they are more likely to suffer true COVID symptoms.

Bad either way for the jabbed.
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says who?
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Me.

and I wasn't writing for you. Only for those who know my investigative research chops by my user name.

I could care less what anyone else "believes" about what I write
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