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Does the vaccine do anything at all?

 
Anonymous Coward
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07/31/2021 09:06 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
Please stop. There is NO test for any 'variant'. None. No lab can differentiate strains of COVID at this time.

The variant is the vaccinated people who have spike proteins embedded within the membranes of thier own cells. THATS a variant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78490098


All true. No lab can distinguish COVID from common flu either. According to CDC’s numbers, we’re supposed to believe common flu is extinct. Sure.
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07/31/2021 09:07 AM

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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
When the government swears it's safe. I want to see the data they saw. Not just take their word for it.

Where is it? Why isn't that data publicized?
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07/31/2021 09:08 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
recent CDC study of an outbreak in Massachusets link below.

469 cases

346 infected were fully vaccinated.
46% Pfizer 38% Moderna 16% J&J

Other 84 cases were unvaccinated.

That's 74% vaccinated
26% unvaccinated

5 were hospitalized
4 of them or 80% were vaccinated.
1 of them or 20% were unvaccinated.
2 had comorbidity

Article goes on to say
"This is evidence that the Pfizer, Moderna and J&J vaccines are highly effective against severe disease and death."


My question is how?

Without the ages we can't even say that the vaccinated were older on average.

wtf

And the vaccinated were carrying just as high of a viral load as the unvaccinated hence the reason the want the mask mandate back.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80666185


THEY LIED

THEY FOLLOW THEIR MASTER

SATAN

THIS IS HOW YOU CAN TELL

LOOK WHAT IS IN THE VAX

WHY WOULD THEY HAVE TO PUT ALL THIS CRAP IN THE VAX???

THEY DON'T

WHY WOULD THEY PATENT THE COVID 19 BEFORE THEY RELEASED IT

AND THEN TELL EVERYONE THEY CAN'T DEVELOP A VAX BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN COVID 19

WE ARE BEING WIPED AROUND EVERYDAY BY THE LIES

ONLY ONE PERSON IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WIPING OUR MANKIND OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH

SATAN

ONCE YOU ACCEPT THIS

THEN YOU CAN ARM YOURSELF WITH THE RIGHT WEAPON TO FIGHT HIM

OTHERWISE

JUST DIE ALREADY

WHY IS SATAN DOING THIS

HE WANTS THE EARTH FOR HIMSELF

WHY DO YOU THING EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT GETTING OFF THE EARTH

IF

ONE MAN IS LEFT ON THE EARTH

THAT ONE MAN CAN TAKE BACKS THE INHERITANCE OF THE EARTH

HOW

SIMPLE

IT IS A VIOLATION OF OUR FREEWILL TO KILL MANKIND

BY ACCEPTING OUR FREEWILL HAS BEEN VIOLATED

CONFESS IT

ALL VIOLATORS WILL BE BURNED AND BURNED UP

WHAT IS LEFT IS

THE NEW EARTH

IT IS WRITTEN

AMEN
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07/31/2021 09:08 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
It creates clots and kills your immunity system.
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07/31/2021 09:09 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
recent CDC study of an outbreak in Massachusets link below.

469 cases

346 infected were fully vaccinated.
46% Pfizer 38% Moderna 16% J&J

Other 84 cases were unvaccinated.

That's 74% vaccinated
26% unvaccinated

5 were hospitalized
4 of them or 80% were vaccinated.
1 of them or 20% were unvaccinated.
2 had comorbidity

Article goes on to say
"This is evidence that the Pfizer, Moderna and J&J vaccines are highly effective against severe disease and death."


My question is how?

Without the ages we can't even say that the vaccinated were older on average.

wtf

And the vaccinated were carrying just as high of a viral load as the unvaccinated hence the reason the want the mask mandate back.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80666185


It kills ya sooner or later.
"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change"
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07/31/2021 09:09 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
recent CDC study of an outbreak in Massachusets link below.

469 cases

346 infected were fully vaccinated.
46% Pfizer 38% Moderna 16% J&J

Other 84 cases were unvaccinated.

That's 74% vaccinated
26% unvaccinated

5 were hospitalized
4 of them or 80% were vaccinated.
1 of them or 20% were unvaccinated.
2 had comorbidity

Article goes on to say
"This is evidence that the Pfizer, Moderna and J&J vaccines are highly effective against severe disease and death."


My question is how?

Without the ages we can't even say that the vaccinated were older on average.

wtf

And the vaccinated were carrying just as high of a viral load as the unvaccinated hence the reason the want the mask mandate back.


[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80666185


:adore:angrynutFor a man, the vaccine will shrink your penis and for a woman, the vaccine will grow your clit. We will call it "Chicks with dicks or dick less chicks"
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07/31/2021 09:10 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?

It lets you in a restaurant.
it lets you? really?? u r free! u get jabbed...not free
u wear mask...not free
lockdowns...not free
um when does free begin? oh, ya u aren't free until jabbed?
DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE! REREAD IT!

no SHOT can be mandated while under EMERGENCY USE! if employers mandate, than they take on liability for ALL SIDE EFFECTS leading up to & including DEATH. there is no variant. it would take months to determine not minutes.

make ur own meals & don't join in their drug trials!
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
When the government swears it's safe. I want to see the data they saw. Not just take their word for it.

Where is it? Why isn't that data publicized?
 Quoting: Nonentity


Go to pubmed. There is so much research. Dig in. The CDC wont provide it to you. They take the info and create a narrative using vague language.
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07/31/2021 09:12 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
When the government swears it's safe. I want to see the data they saw. Not just take their word for it.

Where is it? Why isn't that data publicized?
 Quoting: Nonentity


We know the answer in our gut. The data is catastrophically bad for the vax. It maims and kills and doesn’t cure anything. Whistleblowers are confirming it.
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07/31/2021 09:13 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
Looks to me that the vaccine prevents Covid from getting softer. It keeps it virulent and mutating so it won't go away.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34379757


Viruses do not become more virulent as they mutate. They are looking for a good host in which to call home and 'set up shop' not to kill the host. Higher transmission? Yes. Higher virulence? No.

This is real science not Marxist "my feelings are fact" science.

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07/31/2021 09:14 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
yes it does. it shows who is a vacuous drone (got the vax) and who has their own independent thought process (fuck the vax).
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:personal green t:
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
recent CDC study of an outbreak in Massachusets link below.

469 cases

346 infected were fully vaccinated.
46% Pfizer 38% Moderna 16% J&J

Other 84 cases were unvaccinated.

That's 74% vaccinated
26% unvaccinated

5 were hospitalized
4 of them or 80% were vaccinated.
1 of them or 20% were unvaccinated.
2 had comorbidity

Article goes on to say
"This is evidence that the Pfizer, Moderna and J&J vaccines are highly effective against severe disease and death."


My question is how?

Without the ages we can't even say that the vaccinated were older on average.

wtf

And the vaccinated were carrying just as high of a viral load as the unvaccinated hence the reason the want the mask mandate back.


[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80666185


It's amazing how you can't read.
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07/31/2021 09:17 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
It lets you in a restaurant.
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epiclol
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
Looks to me that the vaccine prevents Covid from getting softer. It keeps it virulent and mutating so it won't go away.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34379757


Viruses do not become more virulent as they mutate. They are looking for a good host in which to call home and 'set up shop' not to kill the host. Higher transmission? Yes. Higher virulence? No.

This is real science not Marxist "my feelings are fact" science.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80383054


They can actually go both ways, either becoming more contagious but less deadly. Or more deadly but less contagious. With covid it's pretty obvious compared to early2020 that the virus is getting more contagious but less deadly. There is no need for a vaccine at all. Natural herd immunity will make this disease a non event in a year or two.
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07/31/2021 09:17 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
A
Yes it does.

The vaccine doesn't stop you getting covid 19

It lessens the impact of the symptoms and stops you ending up on a hospital bed waiting to die.

I think you need to learn a bit more about medicine then jumping to conclusions based on an article from the Daily Mail.

I hope all those who are unvaxxed and refusing to get vaxxed get covid 19. Then it'll be good to ask them after how they feel
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80682166


What you're describing is a therapeutic (symptom reliever) and not a vaccine. Maybe you're the one who needs to learn about medicine.

A vaccine is to immunize you from getting a disease in the first place. It's not to make you feel better once you have the disease.

And if the "vaccine" is really a symptom reliever then there is no need (or legal basis) to mandate it across the entire population as it has no bearing on getting or transmitting the disease. It's a personal choice much like taking Robitussin. Robitussin may decrease the cough from your pneumonia but that's about it. It doesn't address the pneumonia.
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07/31/2021 09:19 AM
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When the government swears it's safe. I want to see the data they saw. Not just take their word for it.

Where is it? Why isn't that data publicized?
 Quoting: Nonentity


Lots deaths and injuries in the VAERS. So no this is not safe not effective.
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07/31/2021 09:19 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make an idiot get a vaccine to save their life.
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07/31/2021 09:19 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
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In the UK the placebo group gets the same privileges as the group who received the actual vaccine.

Let that sink in.
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^^^^^^ Cannot be emphasized enough.

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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
Looks to me that the vaccine prevents Covid from getting softer. It keeps it virulent and mutating so it won't go away.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34379757


Viruses do not become more virulent as they mutate. They are looking for a good host in which to call home and 'set up shop' not to kill the host. Higher transmission? Yes. Higher virulence? No.

This is real science not Marxist "my feelings are fact" science.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80383054


Truth..but even so, they have no test for delta over omega. Mutant strains are not more lethal.

Spike proteins embedded in your own cells is NOT a mutant strain -- but a modification of your cells and is gain of function and your immune system will attack your own cells that have a viral protein particle attached to it... so the lethality of genetic manipulation is variable, depending on where those spike protein embed and what type of damage the immune cells will do by destroying your own cells.
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07/31/2021 09:20 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make an idiot get a vaccine to save their life.
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troll.
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07/31/2021 09:20 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
Thread: With a 99.97% survival rate, they could inject you with ANYTHING and say it works.

It does what it's designed to do.

It's not to protect you from the virus, it's to genetically modify you with a slow kill process.
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07/31/2021 09:20 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
It’s just a more lethal way to obtain a participation trophy, virtue signal and alleviate peer pressure from your fellow sheep.

sheepsheepbillgatessheepsheep
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07/31/2021 09:21 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
I think my cell phone signal has gotten better when I hold my phone.
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I can change the channels on my TV with my mind now.
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07/31/2021 09:22 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
Yes, they destroy your immune system.
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07/31/2021 09:23 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
Gives the lucky ones a mental placebo effect and hurts and potentially kills the not so lucky ones.
 Quoting: The Gullible Skeptic


Don't care what they say.
Children have a 99.995% survival rate for covid.
They should not be getting the vaccine unless obese or have a comorbidity.
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what yer really saying is you hate fat, ugly stupid people...
It's life as we know it, but only just.
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
I think my cell phone signal has gotten better when I hold my phone.
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I can change the channels on my TV with my mind now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80420125


i'm having a problem with auto-ejaculation....

Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 07/31/2021 09:25 AM
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
Yes
If you inject that Frankenstein cocktail into your bloodstream
IT DEFINITELY
WITHOUT A DOUBT
DOES SOMETHING
NOBODY is allowed to talk about.- including DOCTORS

But one thing it CERTAINLY DOES NOT DO
is MAKE YOU
"IMMUNE"
FROM COVID

 Quoting: Buzzcheeze


THIS. ^^^ And that little critical fact makes the brainwashed heads spin off. "Does not compute. Does not compute. Must attack the messenger. Does not compute."
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make an idiot get a vaccine to save their life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75530758


Your sort of mentality is becoming less common
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
Yes it makes you sick as heck and then kills you.
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Re: Does the vaccine do anything at all?
It lets you in a restaurant.


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Yeah, that's the real reason most people I know take the vaccine. Nothing to do with health. It's always to "get my freedom back" or "get on a plane" or "get back to normal" or "be with people again". Those are all social and obedience reasons.

Basically cutting a deal with authorities. Show obedience in exchange for freedom. It never works and only takes more freedom away.





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