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(OP) You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 80678129 United States 07/31/2021 06:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
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(OP) You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 80678129 United States 07/31/2021 06:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now kick the illegal aliens back to their real homes. Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
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(OP) You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 80678129 United States 07/31/2021 06:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean.....we all have the right to protect ourselves.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19315190 Govnt cant take that away from anyone really But keep licking them boots You get that right by entering another country illegally? Nope! Last Edited by Vicious Deplorable dollop on 07/31/2021 06:53 AM Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77709735 United States 07/31/2021 07:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The argument his retarded attorneys made was that he was party to a contract he obviously had no right to... The reality is that he had a right to do what he did, as he wasnt in posession of the firearm until it was safe to break the law, it's like if you're drunk and someone is chasing you and you need to escape, you cant get a DUI... |
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(OP) You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 80678129 United States 07/31/2021 07:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The argument his retarded attorneys made was that he was party to a contract he obviously had no right to... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77709735 The reality is that he had a right to do what he did, as he wasnt in posession of the firearm until it was safe to break the law, it's like if you're drunk and someone is chasing you and you need to escape, you cant get a DUI... In Thursday's opinion, the panel pointed out that Perez, although in the country for 15 years and with no criminal conviction record prior to the weapons charge, is categorically banned from possessing firearms, and his actions further soured any assertion of lawful gun use. "We do not consider Perez’s interest in possessing guns at all similar to that of a 'law-abiding, responsible' person pursuing self-defense," said Senior Circuit Judge John M. Walker Jr., writing for the majority. Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77709735 United States 07/31/2021 07:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The argument his retarded attorneys made was that he was party to a contract he obviously had no right to... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77709735 The reality is that he had a right to do what he did, as he wasnt in posession of the firearm until it was safe to break the law, it's like if you're drunk and someone is chasing you and you need to escape, you cant get a DUI... In Thursday's opinion, the panel pointed out that Perez, although in the country for 15 years and with no criminal conviction record prior to the weapons charge, is categorically banned from possessing firearms, and his actions further soured any assertion of lawful gun use. "We do not consider Perez’s interest in possessing guns at all similar to that of a 'law-abiding, responsible' person pursuing self-defense," said Senior Circuit Judge John M. Walker Jr., writing for the majority. You're confusing arguments and not understanding circumstances... What I said might not apply to an illegal (uncontacted) person if their house was raided and guns were found... However what they essentially said is that second amendment doesn't apply to him, of course itdoesn't, the judges can only go based on the arguments made, and they made the wrong claim. Had his attorneys been competent he would be free. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80681578 United States 07/31/2021 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Constitutional rights are basic human rights that the government agreed to not infringe. They're already infringing on them, however those rights were guaranteed to "we the people". That is where the attorney should have focused his argument, were and are "we the people" exclusively citizens, and is a 15 year illegal resident considered a people of the the USA? But that's not the issue. The issue is that the governments are infringing upon the people's 2A right already so if he had a right he still didn't have a right. There's probably a bunch of other charges that could have gone with his charges. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77709735 United States 07/31/2021 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Constitutional rights are basic human rights that the government agreed to not infringe. They're already infringing on them, however those rights were guaranteed to "we the people". That is where the attorney should have focused his argument, were and are "we the people" exclusively citizens, and is a 15 year illegal resident considered a people of the the USA? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80681578 But that's not the issue. The issue is that the governments are infringing upon the people's 2A right already so if he had a right he still didn't have a right. There's probably a bunch of other charges that could have gone with his charges. You're not "We the People"... That would be the signers of The Constitution and their offspring (posterity)... that isn't your document and it doesnt belong to you, HOWEVER, it DOES PROTECT YOU, as you are a citizen (a subject) under contract. Said contract did not exist in this mans case, which his attorneys claimed it did. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78093641 United States 07/31/2021 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the time of the founding it was understood that these rights as well as innumerable unstated but understood ones applied to everyone but that OUR federal government was only in the business of guaranteeing them for US Citizens and others within the borders of the United States. It was also understood that if you wanted to come into the country you had to have permission or you'd get tossed back out. The constitution is not a document of permissions(rights) that the government gives it's citizens but rather a document of limitations the Citizens placed upon the government. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78093641 United States 07/31/2021 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean.....we all have the right to protect ourselves.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19315190 Govnt cant take that away from anyone really But keep licking them boots You don't let illegals in and let them arm up. That's how you get invaded from within. Only if you've disarmed the Citizens first. Besides, Joe said that small arms were useless because the government has f-16s and nukes. |
Pres. Elect Festus Hoggbottom
User ID: 78382070 United States 07/31/2021 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's despicable that this argument was limited to the 2nd. The real question that needs a definitive answer is, "Does the US Constitution apply to illegals?". More proof that 'they' have zero interest in tackling real problems or providing real solutions. In this case, the agenda was to take guns and they used a fake argument to do just that. This is not good news. These people are the problem that needs to be solved. I did it. I did it on purpose. And I'll do it again. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78093641 United States 07/31/2021 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's despicable that this argument was limited to the 2nd. The real question that needs a definitive answer is, "Does the US Constitution apply to illegals?". More proof that 'they' have zero interest in tackling real problems or providing real solutions. In this case, the agenda was to take guns and they used a fake argument to do just that. This is not good news. These people are the problem that needs to be solved. Quoting: Pres. Elect Festus Hoggbottom You're confused in thinking that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights is something the government gave you. Those rights are considered NATURAL rights that everyone has. OUR government can only ensure them to people in the US as we have no real jurisdiction outside the US. WE made the government and put limits on it via the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. OUR government didn't give us shit. We already had them by virtue of being people. |
Pres. Elect Festus Hoggbottom
User ID: 78382070 United States 07/31/2021 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's despicable that this argument was limited to the 2nd. The real question that needs a definitive answer is, "Does the US Constitution apply to illegals?". More proof that 'they' have zero interest in tackling real problems or providing real solutions. In this case, the agenda was to take guns and they used a fake argument to do just that. This is not good news. These people are the problem that needs to be solved. Quoting: Pres. Elect Festus Hoggbottom You're confused in thinking that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights is something the government gave you. Those rights are considered NATURAL rights that everyone has. OUR government can only ensure them to people in the US as we have no real jurisdiction outside the US. WE made the government and put limits on it via the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. OUR government didn't give us shit. We already had them by virtue of being people. Exactly my point. That's what the argument should have been about, but it would provide an actual solution and precedent. Not at all what they were after. They only wanted to take guns, so they found an expedient way to do that and only that. Last Edited by Festus J. Hoggbottom, III on 07/31/2021 09:16 AM I did it. I did it on purpose. And I'll do it again. |
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(OP) You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 80678129 United States 07/31/2021 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Illegal Aliens have the right to get hit in the crotch with a golf club and sent back home. Last Edited by Vicious Deplorable dollop on 07/31/2021 09:35 AM Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77709735 United States 07/31/2021 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well then.. if the second amendment doesn’t apply do they have the right to life and liberty? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80419372 Would page 232 paragraph 4 sentence 2 of the mcdonalds employee guidelines apply to you if you were (only) employed at burger king? If a burger king employee claimed a McDonald's policy applied them it'd probably sound pretty dumb... That's literally this dudes attorneys... |
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(OP) You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 80678129 United States 07/31/2021 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well then.. if the second amendment doesn’t apply do they have the right to life and liberty? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80419372 Would page 232 paragraph 4 sentence 2 of the mcdonalds employee guidelines apply to you if you were (only) employed at burger king? Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78093641 United States 07/31/2021 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well then.. if the second amendment doesn’t apply do they have the right to life and liberty? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80419372 Would page 232 paragraph 4 sentence 2 of the mcdonalds employee guidelines apply to you if you were (only) employed at burger king? Would it apply to you if you owned stock in both companies? Stop looking at it from a subservient viewpoint. "of the people, by the people and for the people." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77709735 United States 07/31/2021 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well then.. if the second amendment doesn’t apply do they have the right to life and liberty? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80419372 Would page 232 paragraph 4 sentence 2 of the mcdonalds employee guidelines apply to you if you were (only) employed at burger king? Would it apply to you if you owned stock in both companies? Stop looking at it from a subservient viewpoint. "of the people, by the people and for the people." 1) you're not the "People" 2) an employee stock in another company would be irrelevant to his/her capacity as an employee at burger king and using McDonald's employee policy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77196961 Denmark 07/31/2021 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | looks like they are working on changing that Thread: Democrats Pass Bill to Allow Illegal Immigrants to Be Hired as Congressional Staffers |
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(OP) You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 80678129 United States 07/31/2021 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | looks like they are working on changing that Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77196961 Thread: Democrats Pass Bill to Allow Illegal Immigrants to Be Hired as Congressional Staffers The anti American democrats would love it. Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |