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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78704815 United States 08/06/2021 02:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Genetic sequencing and viral isolation are 2 different things. Quoting: LameDame I know with bacterial isolation, different species give different chemical reactions. The isolation starts with the selection of agar. Then is grouped by gram pos or neg and aerobic or anaerobic, CO2, X and Y factors (chocolate agar). I do not know how to sequence the nucleic acids or any viral isolation techniques. Viruses are nothing like bacteria. Maybe I will search it to give you a better answer. Maybe not. Definately not tonight. maybe then you should shut the fuck up because you have nothing but empty words, as you yourself admitted? My words have more substance than yours, you just do not want to hear them, but I will shut up. Goodnight. Look up exosomes. They are a result of the body fighting toxicity. Many experiments have been done in which healthy animals were exposed to mucus and saliva of sick animals and they never "caught" it. Virology is used as a front to make billions for drug companies creating vaccines. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72565819 United States 08/06/2021 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Genetic sequencing and viral isolation are 2 different things. Quoting: LameDame I know with bacterial isolation, different species give different chemical reactions. The isolation starts with the selection of agar. Then is grouped by gram pos or neg and aerobic or anaerobic, CO2, X and Y factors (chocolate agar). I do not know how to sequence the nucleic acids or any viral isolation techniques. Viruses are nothing like bacteria. Maybe I will search it to give you a better answer. Maybe not. Definately not tonight. You can't sequence stew. IF ITS NOT PURE, ITS POLLUTED by definition. Yes it's just that fucking simple. Isn't that obvious in clownworld anymore? |
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User ID: 80709186 United States 08/06/2021 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The FOIA request was worded to exclude the method now most used (VERO cells) to isolate viruses as if that method does not adhere to Koch's postulates. That is incorrect. First because Koch's postulates were for bacteria and were modified a half century later by Rivers in 1937 since virus isolation cannot be done in the same way as bacteria. And second b/c modern methods use VERO in a way that fulfills River's postulates. So the CDC took the request literally and responded properly. But they decided not to educate the person making the request for whatever reason. Leave that to me. In 2003, SARS was isolated according to Kochs/Rivers postulates. Note the use of VERO. They explain in detail how they adhere to the gold standard. Excerpt from article is below with link to full. Below this excerpt from the 2003 article, I will include links to SARS-COV-2 isolation events from around the world using the same method that isolated SARS-1 in 2003. Koch's postulates fulfilled for SARS virus Ron A. M. Fouchier, Thijs Kuiken, Martin Schutten, Geert van Amerongen, Gerard J. J. van Doornum, Bernadette G. van den Hoogen, Malik Peiris, Wilina Lim, Klaus Stöhr & Albert D. M. E. Osterhaus - May 2003 "According to Koch's postulates, as modified by Rivers for viral diseases, six criteria are required to establish a virus as the cause of a disease1. The first three criteria — isolation of virus from diseased hosts, cultivation in host cells, and proof of filterability — have been met for SCV by several groups2,3,4,5. Moreover, of 96 individuals complying with the World Health Organization's definition of SARS6 in Hong Kong, 86 (90%) yielded laboratory evidence of SCV infection. We have tested for the three remaining criteria: production of comparable disease in the original host species or a related one, re-isolation of the virus, and detection of a specific immune response to the virus. We inoculated two macaques with Vero-cell-cultured SCV isolated from a fatal SARS case, and monitored their clinical signs, virus excretion and antibody response. The animals were killed six days post-inoculation (d.p.i.), and we then carried out gross and histopathological examinations of them. Both SCV-inoculated macaques became lethargic from 3 d.p.i. onwards and developed a temporary skin rash, and one suffered respiratory distress from 4 d.p.i. onwards. The macaques excreted virus from the nose and throat at 2–6 d.p.i., as shown by polymerase chain reaction with reverse transcription (RT-PCR) and by virus isolation (see supplementary information). The isolated virus was identical to that inoculated, as shown by negative-contrast electron microscopy (Fig. 1a) and RT-PCR analysis. Seroconversion to SCV, as determined by indirect immunofluorescence assay using infected Vero cells, was demonstrated in two other SCV-infected macaques at 16 d.p.i.. The virus was also isolated from the faeces of one of these animals (see supplementary information). rest at link [link to www.nature.com (secure)] --------------------------------------------- The modern efforts. Virus Isolation from the First Patient with SARS-CoV-2 in Korea [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Isolation and Full-Length Genome Characterization of SARS-CoV-2 from COVID-19 Cases in Northern Italy [link to journals.asm.org (secure)] I study viruses: How our team isolated the new coronavirus to fight the global pandemic [link to theconversation.com (secure)] Last Edited by Augmentalist on 08/06/2021 10:43 AM Augmented by Grace |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79171832 United States 08/06/2021 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, dammit I looked it up. Virus isolation is very complicated and I do not claim to understand it. Some viruses are identified by morphological changes they cause to specific cells. Quoting: LameDame Coronavirus are identified by electron microscopy and by genomic sequencing. The case I read about in an NIH article was a Korean man whose sequencing matched other identified covid cases. Viruses can only be grown in other living cells. Once growth is established, they are isolated by filtration or another method that I can't explain because I don't understandd. I think that you are arguing a technically. Isolation is not the means of identification. The test identifying it needs to be calibrated correctly and use correct primers, otherwise GIGO. Ghost chasing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79568736 United States 08/06/2021 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, was isolated in the laboratory and is available for research by the scientific and medical community. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79985137 Russia 08/07/2021 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79568736 SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, was isolated in the laboratory and is available for research by the scientific and medical community. |
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User ID: 80713341 United States 08/07/2021 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, dammit I looked it up. Virus isolation is very complicated and I do not claim to understand it. Some viruses are identified by morphological changes they cause to specific cells. Quoting: LameDame Coronavirus are identified by electron microscopy and by genomic sequencing. The case I read about in an NIH article was a Korean man whose sequencing matched other identified covid cases. Viruses can only be grown in other living cells. Once growth is established, they are isolated by filtration or another method that I can't explain because I don't understandd. I think that you are arguing a technically. Isolation is not the means of identification. Shhh. Don't bother trying to talk sense into the non-isolation tards. They are having too much fun muddying the waters with their nonsense. They completely spazzed out and threatened to drown everyone in my family when I pointed out that the FOIA request was worded to make it impossible for the health departments to respond in the positive because the request excluded the VERO cell method which is literally the gold standard method used for all virus isolation and sequencing for over 20 years. Small minds. Augmented by Grace |
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User ID: 81338518 United States 11/28/2021 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Testing different wavelengths My colleagues and I tested five commonly used UV wavelengths to see which work best to inactivate SARS-CoV-2. Specifically, we tested how large a dose is needed to kill 90% to 99.9% of the viral particles present. We ran these tests in a biosafety level three facility at the University of Arizona that is built to handle lethal pathogens. There we tested numerous lights across the UV spectrum, including UV LEDs that emit light at 270 and 282 nanometers, traditional UV tube lamps at 254 nanometers and a newer technology called an excited dimer, or excimer, UV source at 222 nanometers. To test each device we spiked a sample of water with millions of SARS-CoV-2 viruses and coated a petri dish with a thin layer of this mixture. We then shined UV light on the petri dish until we achieved a specific dose. Finally we examined the viral particles to see if they could still infect human cells in culture. If the viruses could infect the cells, the dose was not high enough. If the viruses did not cause an infection, the UV source at that dose had successfully killed the pathogen. We carefully repeated this process for a range of UV doses using the five different UV devices. [link to theconversation.com (secure)] So, are these guys lying? What is the truth? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80276927 United States 11/29/2021 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.drrobertyoung.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80704613 Sorry original post had incorrect hyperlink. Upon FOIA Christine Massey asked upon CDC to prove isolated virus, and they gave her same response people were getting in the UK that they don’t have the virus isolated because someone else does that. Same runaround nonsense it’s a hoax HOLY SHIT I've seen several from several countries that's impressive work right there 5-STARS OP PIN IT +1 GREEN |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70279414 United States 12/01/2021 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79568736 SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, was isolated in the laboratory and is available for research by the scientific and medical community. Bullshit, China gave the USA the code sequence, they have nothing more than that. |
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User ID: 78295154 United States 12/02/2021 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The FOIA request was worded to exclude the method now most used (VERO cells) to isolate viruses as if that method does not adhere to Koch's postulates. Quoting: Augmentalist That is incorrect. First because Koch's postulates were for bacteria and were modified a half century later by Rivers in 1937 since virus isolation cannot be done in the same way as bacteria. And second b/c modern methods use VERO in a way that fulfills River's postulates. So the CDC took the request literally and responded properly. But they decided not to educate the person making the request for whatever reason. Leave that to me. In 2003, SARS was isolated according to Kochs/Rivers postulates. Note the use of VERO. They explain in detail how they adhere to the gold standard. Excerpt from article is below with link to full. Below this excerpt from the 2003 article, I will include links to SARS-COV-2 isolation events from around the world using the same method that isolated SARS-1 in 2003. Koch's postulates fulfilled for SARS virus Ron A. M. Fouchier, Thijs Kuiken, Martin Schutten, Geert van Amerongen, Gerard J. J. van Doornum, Bernadette G. van den Hoogen, Malik Peiris, Wilina Lim, Klaus Stöhr & Albert D. M. E. Osterhaus - May 2003 "According to Koch's postulates, as modified by Rivers for viral diseases, six criteria are required to establish a virus as the cause of a disease1. The first three criteria — isolation of virus from diseased hosts, cultivation in host cells, and proof of filterability — have been met for SCV by several groups2,3,4,5. Moreover, of 96 individuals complying with the World Health Organization's definition of SARS6 in Hong Kong, 86 (90%) yielded laboratory evidence of SCV infection. We have tested for the three remaining criteria: production of comparable disease in the original host species or a related one, re-isolation of the virus, and detection of a specific immune response to the virus. We inoculated two macaques with Vero-cell-cultured SCV isolated from a fatal SARS case, and monitored their clinical signs, virus excretion and antibody response. The animals were killed six days post-inoculation (d.p.i.), and we then carried out gross and histopathological examinations of them. Both SCV-inoculated macaques became lethargic from 3 d.p.i. onwards and developed a temporary skin rash, and one suffered respiratory distress from 4 d.p.i. onwards. The macaques excreted virus from the nose and throat at 2–6 d.p.i., as shown by polymerase chain reaction with reverse transcription (RT-PCR) and by virus isolation (see supplementary information). The isolated virus was identical to that inoculated, as shown by negative-contrast electron microscopy (Fig. 1a) and RT-PCR analysis. Seroconversion to SCV, as determined by indirect immunofluorescence assay using infected Vero cells, was demonstrated in two other SCV-infected macaques at 16 d.p.i.. The virus was also isolated from the faeces of one of these animals (see supplementary information). rest at link [link to www.nature.com (secure)] --------------------------------------------- The modern efforts. Virus Isolation from the First Patient with SARS-CoV-2 in Korea [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Isolation and Full-Length Genome Characterization of SARS-CoV-2 from COVID-19 Cases in Northern Italy [link to journals.asm.org (secure)] I study viruses: How our team isolated the new coronavirus to fight the global pandemic [link to theconversation.com (secure)] All you are doing is repeating a medical magic trick.....the problem which you fail to notice is that the entire foundation for health and sickness is completely wrong.....let me reiterate it for you......it's wrong. These people are medical magicians and they blind you with medical illusions. All their tests and machines are created based off false information. You can create a test to provide whatever result you wish to attain. That doesnt make it correct. It's a shame that most of you silly humans have no clue to the history of your own health system and that is why you are all doomed to a lifetime of suffering.....because your health is run by medical wizards. This is the last time that i kneel and pray to the sky, cause everything that i was ever taught was a lie The Punisher |
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