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What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?

 
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What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
Look closely at the cliff on the right side of the hotel.

Can someone please explain where those columns came from?

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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
Are the columns from a previous building that got buried?

What was the building?

How did it get buried?
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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
it used to be a pier
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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
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There are just some things that dont add up for me.

The article linked mentioned that the concrete columns are an old foundation built in 1970 ON TOP of the bluff.

How did it get buried then?

What event happened post 1970 that would completely bury the foundation?

It was buried so completely that it was forgotten until the erosión caused by the pounding waves unearthed it?

So the burying and revealing by erosion all happened within 50 years?

The article makes it a point to state that it "resembles ancient ruins."

It doesnt make sense.

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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
Those cliffs are weak and can collapse due to coastal erosion. They're just shoring them up so that doesn't happen.

Or, at least not in the near future. They will fall eventually.
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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
Those cliffs are weak and can collapse due to coastal erosion. They're just shoring them up so that doesn't happen.

Or, at least not in the near future. They will fall eventually.
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What does "shoring them up" mean?
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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
From the linked article:

"A spokeswoman for the Ritz-Carlton, Half Moon Bay declined to comment for this story."

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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
Brought to you by the sagacious leaders of the previous world order that no one is permitted to speak of, lest someone figures out the current world order is a fraud built on a pack of lies....or at least built a few yards inland due to inferior engineering skills.
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Once every 20 years or so homes on those cliffs fall into the sea. I have personally witnessed it. Anyone building something for actual use in that spot would be a complete moron.
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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
Brought to you by the sagacious leaders of the previous world order that no one is permitted to speak of, lest someone figures out the current world order is a fraud built on a pack of lies....or at least built a few yards inland due to inferior engineering skills.
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True GLP style!

Care to elaborate?

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Brought to you by the sagacious leaders of the previous world order that no one is permitted to speak of, lest someone figures out the current world order is a fraud built on a pack of lies....or at least built a few yards inland due to inferior engineering skills.
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careful a big bad wolf type doesn't meander on past and do some huffy puffys
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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
Left overs from previous reset.

Jon levy you tube mud floods. He mentioned that in one of his shows.

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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
Once every 20 years or so homes on those cliffs fall into the sea. I have personally witnessed it. Anyone building something for actual use in that spot would be a complete moron.
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Any ideas on how the "foundation" was initially buried? This foundation was supposedly built in 1970. How can such a large structure be completely buried quickly enough that it would have time to be revealed again by natural erosion in less than 50 years?
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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
Those cliffs are weak and can collapse due to coastal erosion. They're just shoring them up so that doesn't happen.

Or, at least not in the near future. They will fall eventually.
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What does "shoring them up" mean?
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Giving the cliffs support so they don't fall.
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Those cliffs are weak and can collapse due to coastal erosion. They're just shoring them up so that doesn't happen.

Or, at least not in the near future. They will fall eventually.
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What does "shoring them up" mean?
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Reinforce, stabilize
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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
I’m no historian, archaeologist, structural engineer or landscape architect, but it looks like newish construction to me.
Simple answer, look at county building records.
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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
They drill into the ground and pour concrete
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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
Once every 20 years or so homes on those cliffs fall into the sea. I have personally witnessed it. Anyone building something for actual use in that spot would be a complete moron.
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Any ideas on how the "foundation" was initially buried? This foundation was supposedly built in 1970. How can such a large structure be completely buried quickly enough that it would have time to be revealed again by natural erosion in less than 50 years?
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It can't. Plus, those columns have etchings like those ancient columns that have been uncovered. This doesn't pass the smell test.
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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
Once every 20 years or so homes on those cliffs fall into the sea. I have personally witnessed it. Anyone building something for actual use in that spot would be a complete moron.
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Any ideas on how the "foundation" was initially buried? This foundation was supposedly built in 1970. How can such a large structure be completely buried quickly enough that it would have time to be revealed again by natural erosion in less than 50 years?
 Quoting: Fortunabeargirl


It can't. Plus, those columns have etchings like those ancient columns that have been uncovered. This doesn't pass the smell test.
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I can't see the etchings but I showed it to a professional they said it looks ancient...

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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
Those cliffs are weak and can collapse due to coastal erosion. They're just shoring them up so that doesn't happen.

Or, at least not in the near future. They will fall eventually.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80371573


What does "shoring them up" mean?
 Quoting: Fortunabeargirl


Giving the cliffs support so they don't fall.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80371573


Reinforce, stabilize




Thanks!

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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
In California they have to do a lot of work after the fact to try to stabilize moving earth because it moves a lot in California.

They go into sliding homes and drill deep holes down to bedrock to stabilize the structures. That picture looks like either there was a structure that they tried to stabilize by drilling, attaching to bedrock and filling the drill holes with concrete for support and the structure fell into the ocean anyway. Or the Ritz is just trying to stabilize the coastline itself to protect its building and the land is falling away and showing the work done.

I'm no expert but I've lived in California and know they do this type of retrofitting all the time.
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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
They drill into the ground and pour concrete
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I, at first, thought this to be a satisfactory explanation for how the columns could be buried.

But when I went back to the pic that was in the linked article, there is clearly a flat wall (that was already dismantled in the first pic) that can be seen behind the columns.

One cannot build a flat wall underground from aboveground

Also, the lines on the columns look to be intentionally symetrical.
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WOW!! Awesome contribution! Thanks!

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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
Once every 20 years or so homes on those cliffs fall into the sea. I have personally witnessed it. Anyone building something for actual use in that spot would be a complete moron.
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Any ideas on how the "foundation" was initially buried? This foundation was supposedly built in 1970. How can such a large structure be completely buried quickly enough that it would have time to be revealed again by natural erosion in less than 50 years?
 Quoting: Fortunabeargirl


It can't. Plus, those columns have etchings like those ancient columns that have been uncovered. This doesn't pass the smell test.
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I agree!
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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
Once every 20 years or so homes on those cliffs fall into the sea. I have personally witnessed it. Anyone building something for actual use in that spot would be a complete moron.
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Any ideas on how the "foundation" was initially buried? This foundation was supposedly built in 1970. How can such a large structure be completely buried quickly enough that it would have time to be revealed again by natural erosion in less than 50 years?
 Quoting: Fortunabeargirl


It can't. Plus, those columns have etchings like those ancient columns that have been uncovered. This doesn't pass the smell test.
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I can't see the etchings but I showed it to a professional they said it looks ancient...

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this2

That's what I am saying. There is a difference between old (1970) and ancient.
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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
Left overs from previous reset.

Jon levy you tube mud floods. He mentioned that in one of his shows.

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I'll check him out! hf
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Re: What is going on beneath the Ritz Carlton in CA?
In California they have to do a lot of work after the fact to try to stabilize moving earth because it moves a lot in California.

They go into sliding homes and drill deep holes down to bedrock to stabilize the structures. That picture looks like either there was a structure that they tried to stabilize by drilling, attaching to bedrock and filling the drill holes with concrete for support and the structure fell into the ocean anyway. Or the Ritz is just trying to stabilize the coastline itself to protect its building and the land is falling away and showing the work done.

I'm no expert but I've lived in California and know they do this type of retrofitting all the time.
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Hmmm ... this could be a reasonable explanation.
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