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Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.

 
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Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
The Ontario Government launched its new COVID case dashboard showing data between vaxxed and unvaxxed groups.

[link to covid-19.ontario.ca (secure)]


If you take a look at the current data posted today it shows the following:

Cases in ICU:

Vaxxed: 7
Unvaxxed: 9


Confirmed cases:

Vaxxed: 132
Unvaxxed: 267



Which means of the vaxxed populace 132 confirmed cases, 7 ended up in ICU. Which means an ICU admittance rate of 5.3% for vaxxed.

But of the unvaxxed populace 267 confirmed cases, 9 ended up in ICU. Which means an ICU admittance rate of 3.37% for the unvaxxed.



And that shows that getting vaccinated (either 1 dose or fully vaxxed) means you are almost nearly double the risk of ending up in the ICU.


Uh oh.

Their vaccine is good narrative just shit the bed.



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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
Also forgot to mention it shows the vaxxed are more likely to end up hospitalized (not ICU) more than the unvaxxed.


In hospital due to COVID:


Vaxxed: 33
Unvaxxed: 28
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
A crack in their fear mirror, finally starting to appear.
Nice!
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
A crack in their fear mirror, finally starting to appear.
Nice!
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Yeah, notice they tried to hide the bad news by splitting up the data between 1 dose vs fully vaxxed in the hopes people wouldnt notice the data shows its actually worse for the vaxxed.
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
Its much higher than that in Israel..
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
Its much higher than that in Israel..
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Yeah but they vaccinated people there way before they did over here.

So there is going to be a delay in seeing the real picture of whats really happening.
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
Its much higher than that in Israel..
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Yeah but they vaccinated people there way before they did over here.

So there is going to be a delay in seeing the real picture of whats really happening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80608675


No I'm saying there is a much higher vaccinated rate in the hospital..

Like most new cases in the hospital are vaxxed at least twice
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
Its much higher than that in Israel..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79729929


Yeah but they vaccinated people there way before they did over here.

So there is going to be a delay in seeing the real picture of whats really happening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80608675


No I'm saying there is a much higher vaccinated rate in the hospital..

Like most new cases in the hospital are vaxxed at least twice
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Oh I dont doubt that at all.

This fall and winter (flu and cold season) will get real ugly for the vaxxed.

Their world is about to get rocked!
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
I don’t see anywhere on that link where vaxxed and unvaxxed numbers are shown. Please provide exact link.
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A crack in their fear mirror, finally starting to appear.
Nice!
 Quoting: LTHN.


Yeah, notice they tried to hide the bad news by splitting up the data between 1 dose vs fully vaxxed in the hopes people wouldnt notice the data shows its actually worse for the vaxxed.
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I have been checking the official Toronto weekly official statements for many months, and here one thing I noticed.
When the hospitalized numbers went down in Ontario, they would start posting about various countries where the numbers hospitalized were up.

When the positive tests were down in Ontario, they would cite various countries where the numbers were going up.

They never cited countries where things were ameliorating, and never emphasized when thing were getting better here, they constantly kept up that fear that covid illness was just around the corner.

Schemers with a destructive agenda is what the are.
"A wise man listens to the message and uses his logic and discernment to process it, a fool negates the message by prejudging the messenger."

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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
Its much higher than that in Israel..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79729929


Yeah but they vaccinated people there way before they did over here.

So there is going to be a delay in seeing the real picture of whats really happening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80608675


No I'm saying there is a much higher vaccinated rate in the hospital..

Like most new cases in the hospital are vaxxed at least twice
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79729929


Oh I dont doubt that at all.

This fall and winter (flu and cold season) will get real ugly for the vaxxed.

Their world is about to get rocked!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80608675


we don't know how bad this thing really is yet.

but I sure hope we are wrong about the vaccines but damn, stroke rates are thru the roof.
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
But aren’t the vaxxed also more likely to be older and frailer than the unvaxxed?
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
But aren’t the vaxxed also more likely to be older and frailer than the unvaxxed?
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Not necessarily, according to government statistics.

“Nearly 81 per cent of Toronto residents 12 and up have received at least one dose of COVID-19 vaccine and nearly 72 per cent are fully vaccinated.”


[link to www.cp24.com (secure)]
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
I don’t see anywhere on that link where vaxxed and unvaxxed numbers are shown. Please provide exact link.
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That is the direct link.

Scroll down, look at the numbers right next to the pie charts.
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
Also forgot to mention it shows the vaxxed are more likely to end up hospitalized (not ICU) more than the unvaxxed.


In hospital due to COVID:


Vaxxed: 33
Unvaxxed: 28
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How can this not wake people up?
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
Also forgot to mention it shows the vaxxed are more likely to end up hospitalized (not ICU) more than the unvaxxed.


In hospital due to COVID:


Vaxxed: 33
Unvaxxed: 28

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80608675


How can this not wake people up?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80656251


They put blinders on, and think daddy government and big pharma corporation cares about them.
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
They just updated the info.

Today's numbers:


In ICU:

Vaxxed: 12
Unvaxxed: 0


In hospital (not ICU):

Vaxxed: 43
Unvaxxed: 32


Confirmed cases:

Vaxxed: 90
Unvaxxed: 234




Its not looking too good for the vaxxed.
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
Well I agree with you that getting vaccinated for this fake virus is stupid. This data is irrelevant because of sample size. Also a higher percentage of really old people took it and therefore are more likely to die then a young un vaccinated person in theory.
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
They just updated the info.

Today's numbers:


In ICU:

Vaxxed: 12
Unvaxxed: 0


In hospital (not ICU):

Vaxxed: 43
Unvaxxed: 32


Confirmed cases:

Vaxxed: 90
Unvaxxed: 234




Its not looking too good for the vaxxed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80608675


I guess one thing this data may be showing is that if you catch COVID when vaccinated it makes the case much more severe?
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
I heard the Top Propaganda Expert of Ontario speaking yesterday.
They explain the numbers like this:

80% of the population is vaxxed* therefore there is a much larger base to deal with.
So with a population of about 14,000,000 in Ontario - figure 65% are over the age of 12 (youngest OK'd to be vaxxed) gives you:
14,000,000 x 0.65x0.8=7.28m population to draw from.
For the unvaxxed being 20% = 1.82m
132 confirmed cases from 7.28m is much less than 267 cases from 1.82m

This is how the government and media spin numbers.
And when they say "vaxxed" they mean double vaxxed. The "unvaxxed" numbers INCLUDE people who have received one shot.

It's all smoke and mirrors.
It's all lies.
The PCR tests CANNOT differentiate between the hundreds of corona viruses that are out there. Not to mention that they also give false positives.
So it's all BS.
They are making it all up as they go.
There WILL be a lock down in September and they WILL blame the unvaxxed. They will be turning family members against each other, when it's the communist government who is causing the turmoil.
There is no pandemic.
Never was.
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
From your original link OP at 445pm est.

All Cases:

UnVax 234
1 dose 32
2 dose 58


Hospitalized:

UnVax 32
1 dose 37
2 dose 6

ICU:

UnVax 0
1 dose 7
2 dose 5

This small sample size, reporting these numbers in a population 80% vax’d isn’t saying what you think it is. Those fully vax’d are most likely to be more vulnerable in the first place & most cases still involve unvax’d. So, yes, unvax’d are running around spreading it to those more vulnerable than them.
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
From your original link OP at 445pm est.

All Cases:

UnVax 234
1 dose 32
2 dose 58


Hospitalized:

UnVax 32
1 dose 37
2 dose 6

ICU:

UnVax 0
1 dose 7
2 dose 5

This small sample size, reporting these numbers in a population 80% vax’d isn’t saying what you think it is. Those fully vax’d are most likely to be more vulnerable in the first place & most cases still involve unvax’d. So, yes, unvax’d are running around spreading it to those more vulnerable than them.
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cruise

Wrong!

Its the other way around.

Its the vaxxed spreading it to the unvaxxed.

In an 80% vaxxed population, and the fact that the vaxxed are the ones primarily ending up being hospitalized and in the ICU means the pathogen vector point is originating in the vaxxed.
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
Also forgot to mention it shows the vaxxed are more likely to end up hospitalized (not ICU) more than the unvaxxed.


In hospital due to COVID:


Vaxxed: 33
Unvaxxed: 28
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80608675


Well, here is how the news is going about describing this.
I was getting a tea earlier this afternoon, and the tv at the donut shop had this to say: “ There are 135 more unvaccinated people who have confirmed cases of covid.”
They said it while looking stern, and never mentioned the statistical numbers you showed which state a higher percentage of faxed were hospitalized out of the total 399 cases.
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
Imagine a vaccine so safe that the government has to coerce you to take it... for a virus so deadly that you have to be tested to find out if you have it.

Just a reminder...
A genuine pandemic doesn't require 24/7 advertising to remind you that it exists.
Real pandemics don't need marketing campaigns and endless propaganda..but, psychological operations DO
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
Imagine a vaccine so safe that the government has to coerce you to take it... for a virus so deadly that you have to be tested to find out if you have it.

Just a reminder...
A genuine pandemic doesn't require 24/7 advertising to remind you that it exists.
Real pandemics don't need marketing campaigns and endless propaganda..but, psychological operations DO
Grove

And this is why we can't have nice things.
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
No shit, the Vaxx is killing people!

hf
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
FAKE NEWS.
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Re: Ontario Government's Official COVID vaxxed vs unvaxxed data shows vaccinated more likely to end up in ICU than unvaxxed.
derpity doo dah

for our vaxxer buddies.

may they rest in peace
while we party on.

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