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If I can just make it through the weekend...

 
2XSecretAgent  (OP)

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Re: If I can just make it through the weekend...
Instead of hiding at your computer, why don't you be a parent and kick them all out?



No shit. Its your house, you LET this go on. Unless your sister threatned to kill you, what the hell is YOUR problem?


What the hell is YOUR problem!?! Have you not ever had a problem with someone you loved tremendously? How would you have handled it? Be honest with yourself even if you won't be with us. You must know it would be difficult. Try to really visualize yourself in the situation.

Besides, try to be a little encouraging.

You aren't perfect, by any means asshole.
 Quoting: Only Me

You know... I understand why he would say that. I began saying that to myself - which is what lead to the big discussion which ended with her moving out. We have talked about this before. She always said "They're my kids and I will parent how I want and you can't tell me what to do with my kids..."
But when it became more kids - in our house all the time... That's when I said enough. I probably should have said it sooner. But we've had several arguments over the past year. I just always thought she would see what was right.
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2X's number one concern is her son, and she should do whatever necessary to make sure her son's best interest is protected. Letting her mooching sister and her underage pothead turdlettes drink and smoke weed in her house puts her at risk for losing her house and going to jail. Her sister can do whatever she wants in her own home, but when one is staying at the home of someone else, one should at the very least respect their wishes that no LAWS be broken under their roof, FFS.
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This is exactly what I told her. She was putting us at great risk. A risk I wasn't willing to take.
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Re: If I can just make it through the weekend...
what kind of sick is your sister?
if that isn't too personal.

Is it substance abuse sick? or medical.
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Believe it or not, she has Morgellons. I am really worried about her. Many days she is so sick she can't get out of bed.
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what kind of sick is your sister?
if that isn't too personal.

Is it substance abuse sick? or medical.

Believe it or not, she has Morgellons. I am really worried about her. Many days she is so sick she can't get out of bed.
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OMG!!!!!

NO WAY!!

wow, that's horrible...very horrible.
sorry to hear that.

Do you see the threads?
crap, you have to give a bit more info on this now...sorry if you have already talked about it on here, I must have missed it.
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Re: If I can just make it through the weekend...
what kind of sick is your sister?
if that isn't too personal.

Is it substance abuse sick? or medical.

Believe it or not, she has Morgellons. I am really worried about her. Many days she is so sick she can't get out of bed.

OMG!!!!!

NO WAY!!

wow, that's horrible...very horrible.
sorry to hear that.

Do you see the threads?
crap, you have to give a bit more info on this now...sorry if you have already talked about it on here, I must have missed it.
 Quoting: 3pisces

I have posted about this extensively here!

I'm not sure what you want to know about it... She's had it for about 8 years now. It's been awful to watch what is happening to her.
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Thing to remember is that she's moving out...just gotta hang in there a bit longer.
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Thing to remember is that she's moving out...just gotta hang in there a bit longer.



And soon you will be able to resume your life uninterrupted.
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It will be so nice to have my home back! To be able to sit in my living room and watch TV and cook meals without it being so unpleasant!

2 more days!
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K sorry, I was afraid of that (you already posted about it). I won't bug you for info.

Wow, that is just horrible.
Again sorry to hear about it.

You are the first person I know (even though I don't really know you) that I have ever personally spoke to (even though we aren't actually speaking) that knows someone with Morgellans.

Sorry if I sounded insensitve.

Hugs for you and your sister.
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K sorry, I was afraid of that (you already posted about it). I won't bug you for info.

Wow, that is just horrible.
Again sorry to hear about it.

You are the first person I know (even though I don't really know you) that I have ever personally spoke to (even though we aren't actually speaking) that knows someone with Morgellans.

Sorry if I sounded insensitve.

Hugs for you and your sister.
 Quoting: 3pisces

No, I don't mind! If you do a search on the Morgellon's threads, you can probably find a lot that I've written.

I'll see if I can find some for you.
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Here's one for starters..
Thread: Morgellons - Connected to Agrobacterium, Connected to GMF
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K sorry, I was afraid of that (you already posted about it). I won't bug you for info.

Wow, that is just horrible.
Again sorry to hear about it.

You are the first person I know (even though I don't really know you) that I have ever personally spoke to (even though we aren't actually speaking) that knows someone with Morgellans.

Sorry if I sounded insensitve.

Hugs for you and your sister.

No, I don't mind! If you do a search on the Morgellon's threads, you can probably find a lot that I've written.

I'll see if I can find some for you.
 Quoting: 2XSecretAgent

Thanks I appreciate that.
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It will be so nice to have my home back! To be able to sit in my living room and watch TV and cook meals without it being so unpleasant!

2 more days!
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And more chances to be at home alone and run around in your panties...it's a lovely feeling!
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It will be so nice to have my home back! To be able to sit in my living room and watch TV and cook meals without it being so unpleasant!

2 more days!


And more chances to be at home alone and run around in your panties...it's a lovely feeling!
 Quoting: Only Me

LOL!
I do miss having the house to myself on occasion!

My nephew will be moving in, in a couple of weeks. I have 2 sisters, and this is my OTHER sister's son. He is 27, in college, and is a great cook! He's worked in some very nice restaurants. The house is really big because it was intended to accommodate 5 people so I needed someone to move in and help pay the bills! He's not moving in til Feb. so I have a couple of weeks of freedom!
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Your sister's kids should have more respect for her, and for you. Her illness must be difficult for her to cope with, but you've been stressed coping with that and the chaos.
2 more days, and you can take care of you again. You deserve it. You son does too.
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Hi 2X I just wanted to say how sorry I am for the trouble you're going through with your sister. I don't have a sister close in age, but I grew up with a cousin that was very much like a sister. We never did see eye to eye on things, but I can see myself being in a situation like this with her and her kids. Hope you guys get it all sorted out:) Oh and I also wanted to say that you have nothing to feel guilty over. It sounds like your sister is not only taken advantage of your good nature, she also sounds very unappreciative of the sacrifices you're making for her. Yes she has a right to raise her kids as she see's fit (God help them!) but you ALSO have the right to decide what will and will not take place in YOUR home! ESPECIALLY when it is illegal activity that puts you and your son in danger of prosecution!
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And more chances to be at home alone and run around in your panties...it's a lovely feeling!
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Hi 2X I just wanted to say how sorry I am for the trouble you're going through with your sister. I don't have a sister close in age, but I grew up with a cousin that was very much like a sister. We never did see eye to eye on things, but I can see myself being in a situation like this with her and her kids. Hope you guys get it all sorted out:) Oh and I also wanted to say that you have nothing to feel guilty over. It sounds like your sister is not only taken advantage of your good nature, she also sounds very unappreciative of the sacrifices you're making for her. Yes she has a right to raise her kids as she see's fit (God help them!) but you ALSO have the right to decide what will and will not take place in YOUR home! ESPECIALLY when it is illegal activity that puts you and your son in danger of prosecution!
 Quoting: Lady Wolf

Thank you!
I've certainly worried about the legal issues but it's so much more than that. The one place my son should be able to be and not have to deal with all the peer pressure to do drugs is in his own home. My sister says, "If I tell them no they will do it anyway... So at least I know where they are and they aren't out on the streets doing this." I believe it's our job as parents to tell them no - and yes, they may still do it some, but that's what kids do. Parents are supposed to reduce that stuff as much as possible - not enable it and participate!

I do hope that once she gets moved, we can at least start to mend our relationship. We've always been so close. There's a lot of hard feelings right now - on both sides. I just hope it can be fixed one day.
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For the past 18 months I've been sharing a home with my sister and her two daughters, who are now 16 - and they're twins. I have a son who is 17.

After moving in, I became aware of some issues with raising teens...

She thinks it is fine to let all the teens drink and smoke pot in the house. I say it's not OK and I don't want it going on in my home. She even "parties" with them...

Things came to a head right before Christmas.

Long story short - she's moving out this weekend.


Right now - the house is a mess. There are at least 6 teens here, not including my son. They are all partying. My sister is nowhere to be found.


I'm just trying to hold on and let her leave without there being a huge scene...
 Quoting: 2XSecretAgent


Hey 2X, I agree with you. No offense, but your sister sounds like she's trying to be Mother Cool but in the long term she's coming across as Mother Coucko. She's making a mistake. She's setting up a bad example cuz kids really want an authoritative figure to admire or follow standards. Besides, it's your home and your sister should have the courtesy to abide by your house rules. Hate to say it too, sounds like she's dumping on you to "clean up on her messed up house"..."house" also meaning her personal life.

No, you're not being prudish if you ask me. At least she's gonna be outta there by Sunday and take her I don't give a F____K behavior with her. Good luck.
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praying for you 2X
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Sometimes its a good that kids do this at one's own house... because they are going to do it somewhere and this way you can supervise. But too much IS TOO MUCH!

When I was growing up my clic of friends always hung out at the same friend's house doing the exact same thing those kids are doing at your house... And his dad is a doctor! Only difference tho... They had a HUGE house. One whole side of the house with the bedrooms was seperate only connected by entry room where the front door was and there was large fully underground basement to hang out in! His parents even let us hire a local speed metal band to play down there!

Don't worry about the legality of it. Just make sure your kids are safe doing what they are going to do anyways. However moderation and common sense are called for. Which seems to be the problem at your place? Of course you said your own kid didn't party with the twin's friends? Do they at least respect your house? Do they clean up after themselves? Can your sister afford a place on her own?



My own step daughter "ran away" just after christmas. She's 19 and thinks she's adult now but has only had a 2 jobs neither of them lasted a month. She has yet to get a driver license even tho her grandpa bought her a car.
She had some 26 year old guy buy her a ticket to Oregon which we didn't know about till the night before her flight. But I have to be honest...it has been alot more peaceful around here without her constant fighting with her girlfriend that we let live here. My wife feels like you do. She wants her house back! Not to mention that she and her friends smoke enormous amounts of our pot! Which I grow for medicinal purposes :)

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Hey 2X, I agree with you. No offense, but your sister sounds like she's trying to be Mother Cool but in the long term she's coming across as Mother Coucko. She's making a mistake. She's setting up a bad example cuz kids really want an authoritative figure to admire or follow standards. Besides, it's your home and your sister should have the courtesy to abide by your house rules. Hate to say it too, sounds like she's dumping on you to "clean up on her messed up house"..."house" also meaning her personal life.

No, you're not being prudish if you ask me. At least she's gonna be outta there by Sunday and take her I don't give a F____K behavior with her. Good luck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 194461

Yes - I think she gets a lot of satisfaction being the Mom that all the kids think is great. She talks about how they come and tell her everything. I still think it's more important to be their MOM and not their FRIEND.
I guess we will see in a few years .... I certainly do not hope bad things for her or her girls. And this is the hard part - when I've had these discussions with her, she thinks I'm saying her girls are bad. I keep saying no! They are being teens! But we, as the adults, have to set some limits in our home. I don't blame them for doing what ever their mom LETS them do... what she doesn't get is that they are probably doing more than what she thinks and allows. That's what kids do and are supposed to do. They are supposed to push the limits. But if you don't give them any limits... or their limits are so far beyond what they should be... Well... then the teens will still push a little more.

I would love to hear if ANYONE had a mom that smoked pot with them when they were teens - and now in hindsight, was that a good or bad thing?
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I've certainly worried about the legal issues but it's so much more than that. The one place my son should be able to be and not have to deal with all the peer pressure to do drugs is in his own home. My sister says, "If I tell them no they will do it anyway... So at least I know where they are and they aren't out on the streets doing this." I believe it's our job as parents to tell them no - and yes, they may still do it some, but that's what kids do. Parents are supposed to reduce that stuff as much as possible - not enable it and participate!
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There I go again.... not refreshing before posting!
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For the past 18 months I've been sharing a home with my sister and her two daughters, who are now 16 - and they're twins. I have a son who is 17.

After moving in, I became aware of some issues with raising teens...

She thinks it is fine to let all the teens drink and smoke pot in the house. I say it's not OK and I don't want it going on in my home. She even "parties" with them...

Things came to a head right before Christmas.

Long story short - she's moving out this weekend.


Right now - the house is a mess. There are at least 6 teens here, not including my son. They are all partying. My sister is nowhere to be found.


I'm just trying to hold on and let her leave without there being a huge scene...
 Quoting: 2XSecretAgent

It's your house!! Develop some ovarian fortitude and tell them to fucking leave...both the teens and your sister. I know (very well, trust me) that sometimes you have to tell family to leave no matter how bad it hurts to do so.
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LOL!
I do miss having the house to myself on occasion!

My nephew will be moving in, in a couple of weeks. I have 2 sisters, and this is my OTHER sister's son. He is 27, in college, and is a great cook! He's worked in some very nice restaurants. The house is really big because it was intended to accommodate 5 people so I needed someone to move in and help pay the bills! He's not moving in til Feb. so I have a couple of weeks of freedom!
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You know its strange... I'm writing asking questions your answering before I post.
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Sometimes its a good that kids do this at one's own house... because they are going to do it somewhere and this way you can supervise. But too much IS TOO MUCH!

When I was growing up my clic of friends always hung out at the same friend's house doing the exact same thing those kids are doing at your house... And his dad is a doctor! Only difference tho... They had a HUGE house. One whole side of the house with the bedrooms was seperate only connected by entry room where the front door was and there was large fully underground basement to hang out in! His parents even let us hire a local speed metal band to play down there!

Don't worry about the legality of it. Just make sure your kids are safe doing what they are going to do anyways. However moderation and common sense are called for. Which seems to be the problem at your place? Of course you said your own kid didn't party with the twin's friends? Do they at least respect your house? Do they clean up after themselves? Can your sister afford a place on her own?



My own step daughter "ran away" just after christmas. She's 19 and thinks she's adult now but has only had a 2 jobs neither of them lasted a month. She has yet to get a driver license even tho her grandpa bought her a car.
She had some 26 year old guy buy her a ticket to Oregon which we didn't know about till the night before her flight. But I have to be honest...it has been alot more peaceful around here without her constant fighting with her girlfriend that we let live here. My wife feels like you do. She wants her house back! Not to mention that she and her friends smoke enormous amounts of our pot! Which I grow for medicinal purposes :)

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I don't think it's ok to just let teens do whatever. And no - they do not respect the house and clean up after themselves. That has been a huge issue too. The kids who just hang out here do nothing. They eat our food, sleep here. Some are high school drop outs who don't even work. They do nothing to help. I tried that approach last winter - ok, if all these kids are going to be here, the least they can do is bring soda and snacks... hell even a pack of toilet paper on occasion would help! And just wash your own damn dishes. Nada. My sister would not enforce any of it and I have constantly been the bad guy. I don't mind the teens thinking I'm the bad guy, but I had no idea when I moved in with my sister that SHE was one of the teens... mentally speaking...
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Hey 2X, I agree with you. No offense, but your sister sounds like she's trying to be Mother Cool but in the long term she's coming across as Mother Coucko. She's making a mistake. She's setting up a bad example cuz kids really want an authoritative figure to admire or follow standards. Besides, it's your home and your sister should have the courtesy to abide by your house rules. Hate to say it too, sounds like she's dumping on you to "clean up on her messed up house"..."house" also meaning her personal life.
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Ok, Now I'm freaking out!
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And more chances to be at home alone and run around in your panties...it's a lovely feeling!





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I don't think it's ok to just let teens do whatever. And no - they do not respect the house and clean up after themselves. That has been a huge issue too. The kids who just hang out here do nothing. They eat our food, sleep here. Some are high school drop outs who don't even work. They do nothing to help. I tried that approach last winter - ok, if all these kids are going to be here, the least they can do is bring soda and snacks... hell even a pack of toilet paper on occasion would help! And just wash your own damn dishes. Nada. My sister would not enforce any of it and I have constantly been the bad guy. I don't mind the teens thinking I'm the bad guy, but I had no idea when I moved in with my sister that SHE was one of the teens... mentally speaking...
 Quoting: 2XSecretAgent

Well thats all changed now! Those kids are going to have find somewhere else to hang out.

If you start feeding all the cats in the neighborhood next thing you know you've become the local "cat lady" and all the cats know they can come to your house for free food and then they shit all over the place!
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Well thats all changed now! Those kids are going to have find somewhere else to hang out.

If you start feeding all the cats in the neighborhood next thing you know you've become the local "cat lady" and all the cats know they can come to your house for free food and then they shit all over the place!
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They will still hang out where ever my sister is moving I'm sure. But at least it won't be here!
And I will NEVER become the local cat lady!
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